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after TC methinks Marcel is gettin' laid a whole lot.

I assume that you highlighted that for a reason. Well, here's a highlight:

But there's a big problem with white rice. The majority of the nutrients in the rice kernel are in the layers that are removed. What's left is mostly starch. As refined rice is 81%-83% carbohydrates, it's considered a high energy food. But on the flip side of this, many of the nutrients needed for correct digestion of white rice were removed during the milling process which forces the body to 'steal' from it's reserves to digest it. Compared to brown rice, white rice's nutrients have been greatly reduced in fatty acids, fiber (which is already low in brown rice compared to some of the other grains), vitamin E, thiamin, riboflavin, niacin, vitamin B6, folacin, potassium, phosphorus, magnesium, iron, zinc and copper. The amino acids remain relatively unchanged.

http://waltonfeed.com/self/rice.html

Because of the importance of consuming proteins that provide all of the necessary amino acids, dietary proteins are considered to belong to two different groups, depending on the amino acids they provide. Complete proteins, which constitute the first group, contain ample amounts of all of the essential amino acids. These proteins are found in meat, fish, poultry, cheese, eggs, and milk. Incomplete proteins, which constitute the second group, contain only some of the essential amino acids. These proteins are found in a variety of foods, including grains, legumes, and leafy green vegetables.

Although it is important to consume the full range of amino acids, both essential and nonessential, it is not necessary to get them from meat, fish, poultry, and other complete-protein foods. In fact, because of their high fat content-as well as the use of antibiotics and other chemicals in the raising of poultry and cattle-most of those foods should be eaten in moderation. Fortunately, the dietary strategy called mutual supplementation enables you to combine partial-protein foods to make complementary protein-proteins that supply adequate amounts of all the essential amino acids. For instance, although beans and brown rice are both quite rich in protein, each lacks one or more of the necessary amino acids. However, when you combine beans and brown rice with each other, or when you combine either one with any of a number of protein-rich foods, you form a complete protein that is a high-quality substitute for meat.

http://1stholistic.com/Nutrition/hol_nutr_protein.htm

So, once again, all he had to do was add a few beans and he would have been fine. He made up for some of the vitamins and minerals stripped from the rice by using sweet potatoes.

In fairness, I was able to find a producer of white rice that claims that rice has all 8 essential amino acids. Which is fine except that there are, for all practical purposes 10 (two have been added to the list of necessary amino acids, one of which is considered "essential" for children). And rice is seriously lacking in at least two of the "classical 8") amino acids. Remember that you have to not only have the amino acids present, but you have to have sufficient quantities to be useful.

That's why you add legumes or meat proteins to "round out" the protein in rice, and why you need a source of vitamins and minerals (like the sweet potato) to fill in what milling takes away in the case of white rice.

Finally, the percentage is protein vs. caloric content of white rice is far lower than for most beans. So, while there's protein present, it's not of the quantity that you'll find in other forms of protein. That's why you find in rice eating cultures that they combine rice with meat or bean proteins. They don't generally just eat rice with veggies. India is a good example. They have their share of vegetarians, and they don't put beans in their curries generally. But they serve their lentils and such as a side dish. And beans by themselves aren't "a complete meal" either, even when combined with something as "nutritious" as sweet potatoes or other veggies. It's only nutritious up to a point.

Just having all 8 "classically essential" amino acids doesn't make a food a complete meal either. Milk has all 8 of them as well (as does a nice thick ribeye steak). But no one says that a glass of milk is a "nutritious meal", even though it's chock-a-block full of vitamins and minerals as well. The key word is "balanced".

Laid? More like layed out by girls throwing wine bottles.

Good thing I stocked up on paper towels Jim

Season 2 may have been the overall "Season of Bad Behavior," if you are looking at the large number of cheftestants who exhibited pathetically bad behavior at least once.

But Season 4 is certainly giving S2 a run for the money in this regards. There may not be as many rude, obnoxious, arrogant characters as there were in S2. However, the S4 bad-behavior chefs that are still there (or who have, thankfully, already been eliminated) are just as bad as anyone in S2 or any other season. Frankly, Lisa, on her own, is more contemptuous and irritating than all the jerks in S2 combined.

Marcel even pissed off the season 1 chefs during the All Star special. And he knew them for all of oh 15 minutes. LOL He's a d-bag.

Oh Jim really he's just so misunderstood. LMAO Marcel said he was coming on the show to not make friends, alienated everyone around him and got preferential treatment from production. Just look at the Marcel Frank incident. One second he was bragging about how he threw everyones stuff on the floor. The next second he's tell Frank a slightly different tune.

HMMM use the money---first season Tiff said if she had won she would pay off debt and travel. Harold has opened his restaurant, but Ilan hasn't done squat! Still don't know about Hung but I'll bet he does open his own restaurant and he'll be highly successful.

I love your idea---it's like a giant playground for everyone!!! Can I work for you???

And 4) the fact that he wants a bunch o lil Blaizes runnin round the place?!

If you're talking about him snapping at Betty, I don't think either of them was in the wrong--Betty didn't hear the production crew telling them to wait, and assumed Marcel was "snapping" at her when he called her to stop. But the fact that every other chef sided with her should tell you all you need to know about how he'd been dealing with them up until that point.

Hey Darth Pervertus,

In return for borrowing your graphics for a post, I made your virgin post a bit easier to read. Red lettering is hard on the eyes.

I don't agree with everything you said, but it's clear that you tried (maybe a bit too hard) to be entertaining, and that should be flattering to everyone on this board.

I am primarily a fan of Project Runway like your better half, but I am trying out Top Chef for a season. It would be fun to have a husband/wife team post on the Project Runway board this July! If the fashions don't interest you, you could do the model commentary..

And what business of Marcel's was it that Mikey was drinking beer and taking Vicodin? Mind your own business.

And your a stoonad if you seriously re-watch that episode and don't realize that some production monkey business went on.

That is exactly how the lychee event went down according to Marrisa's Chow interview. And since we know that Bravo stations their little toadies right with the interviewed contestant we can probably assume they was a bit more monkey business than that.

And what business of Marcel's was it that Mikey was drinking beer and taking Vicodin? Mind your own business.

And your a stoonad if you seriously re-watch that episode and don't realize that some production monkey business went on.

That is exactly how the lychee event went down according to Marrisa's Chow interview. And since we know that Bravo stations their little toadies right with the interviewed contestant we can probably assume they was a bit more monkey business than that.

He just needs to get laid more than once a year. Once that happens, he should be okay.

Well we don't know what kind of rice he used. And remember the Coconut milk, Squash and Sweet Potato all bring some protien to the table as well.

He is planning on opening a restaurant in NYC, but $100K doesn't go as far here as it does elsewhere.

You realize you're contradicting yourself, don't you?

I thought Ilan was saying he hated Marcel from the first episode. Now he hates Marcel because Marcel ratted him out in the 9th episode?

Holy revisionist history, Batman!!!!!

You realize you're contradicting yourself, don't you?

I thought Ilan was saying he hated Marcel from the first episode. Now he hates Marcel because Marcel ratted him out in the 9th episode?

Holy revisionist history, Batman!!!!!

Off the top of my head it would be "CoJack's" for my munchkins. Jackie would be my sous chef. Colio would be my maitre'd

Aww and you could go all Kojack themed and give out lollipops and shave your head and say that thing he said to the customers as they enter.
Who loves ya baby???
(I think that was it???)

Better than

Would you like to try a rooty tooty fresh and fruity!?????
On Cojack's featured menu...The specialty of the house.....Dare I say it?????

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Off the top of my head it would be "CoJack's" for my munchkins. Jackie would be my sous chef. Colio would be my maitre'd

I know where you're going. Don't go there. LOL
Jackie would insist on greek spaghetti and Colio on popcorn shrimp. After that menu would be open to suggestion.

Not sure. It would depend upon the type of restaurant I was opening. Burger joint and bar, I'd call it Fourth Down, or something else football-related. Rustic Italian, I'd probably go with Longo's. Fine dining, definitely Marcel Sucks.

Otto got hosed. They refused to let them address the lychee issue at the store. They told them that they had to go back and talk to a more senior production person. LOL. Completely manufactured drama by Bravo.

1. Keep in mind that the interviews are filmed AFTER the challenges, so Ilan had plenty of exposure to Marcel's personality before he said that he couldn't stand Marcel.

2. Marcel tried to sabotage Betty during the comfort food challenge, tried to take credit for Sam's leadership during the Hollywood challenge, moved Elia's food during the semifinals, repeatedly had to be dragged kicking and screaming into working with the others during group and team challenges.....what else do you want? About the only conflict I AM willing to give him a pass on is his confrontation with Frank during the Thanksgiving challenge--Marcel was working under a time constraint and shouldn't have had to waste time hunting Frank down so Frank could move his stuff out of the cooking area.

3. To say that Marcel isn't as pompous as Stephen is like saying that a broken arm isn't as bad as a broken neck. Doesn't make me want to go out and break my arm.

WAJ,
I have to agree with you on this one - Otto did get hosed. The lychees were on the bottom tray of Elia's shopping cart when Elia was at the cash register. Otto was at the rear of the line with an unidentified customer between him and Elia. In the next scene Otto is coming out of the market pushing Elia's cart and while loading the contents of the cart into the back of the SUV Otto makes the announcement that the lychees were not paid for. How does he know that since it was Elia who supposedly paid for what was on her shopping cart. If the cashier did not ring up the lychees on Elia's cart, it seems to me that Elia was responsible for the error, not Otto.

You know.

Oh LAWD here I go...I know you and Simon and the rest aren't followers ....But let let me tell you something sistah girl....I watched on this very board peeps hate Marcel and Hung before the show started...BEFORE!!!

They may have started early on the hate, but I wasn't reading that stuff... and don't know that Board-Hate is indicative of much.

Even so, I'd be surprised if attitudes toward Hung were really similar to those toward Marcel. Hung said annoying things. Things his mom would be upset to see and hear. He did a few odd things now and then, but not big issues. But throughout, he delivered the dishes. He quite often backed up his high opinion of himself. But nothing he did provoked others, annoyed others, distracted others, insulted others, or made anyone else feel creeped out. Or made others want to knock him into the middle of next week. Granted, Hung made no effort to have any kind of relationship with the other chefs but in the end they all seem to have accepted that, and still got on well with him.

None of that describes Marcel, how Marcel behaved, how Marcel was perceived.

And I say that as someone who rode Hung's ass all last season for the things he said.

Season 2 may have been the overall "Season of Bad Behavior," if you are looking at the large number of cheftestants who exhibited pathetically bad behavior at least once.

What else would they use the money for? In the opening, Padme says "And $100,000 to make their culinary dreams a reality".

KS, for me S2 was also memorable, for me, for that Holiday Spirits episode... the one where Mia said (and howled) so many inexplicable things that my jaw was dropped for the final 15 minutes. Nasty overall, uber-nasty towards Cliff, and no amount of provocation justifies that kind of talk. Invoking some kind of unconventional personal history as... well I still don't know what her background had to do with anything pertaining to that challenge or her performance.

For me, so far, S4 is the overall "Season of Truly Disappointing Cooking." And so far, "Not Very Interesting Challenges."