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Jazzie53-Cyberklutz
QUOTE (River1 @ May 22, 2008 - 09:36 AM) *
Hajar--will you please make up a plate of those for next week's porch? You won't need to make many since so many posters will never, ever watch Bravo again laugh.gif


I am really, trying to catch up (who knows why?) BUT...River, you are so correct! Hajar, can I entice you into bringing some to the porch next Wednesday????

Jazzie
WhataJoke
QUOTE (aks12 @ May 22, 2008 - 10:43 AM) *
I know it doesn't enter the picture, but a Top Chef needs to be more than an exceptional cook, they also have to inspire people to want to work for them. I do not believe that Lisa could inspire ANYBODY to want to work for her.


I agree 100%. Which is why I like the two former contestants coming back as sous chefs for the finale. If you stepped all over people on the way up you can't expect them to bend over backwards for that push over the top.
krkrbts
The deck was stacked against Dale the moment that Antonia chose Stephanie and Richard to be on her team. Yes, Dale was the executive chef but he could not pick his team. I didn't find Anthony Bourdain's criticisms too persuasive. I find it hard to believe that in a restaurant, there would be a situation where the executive chef is forced to work with two people where he has no confidence in their abilities. I doubt Bourdain would put up with that.

Even if Dale had been more forceful and directly told Lisa and Spike what to cook and how to cook it, they would have found a way to screw Dale over. The real mistake Dale made was not thinking tactically-he should have let Lisa take the lead and be executive chef -but who knows-the judges probably would have then criticized him for not taking "initiative" or some other nonsense.
WhataJoke
QUOTE (Radyms13 @ May 22, 2008 - 10:48 AM) *
I am astounded that for the fan favorite episode of Restaurant Wars, there are only 3 current blogs---LeAnn, Burning Questions, and Team Top Chef! There are 15 blogs listed---I realize Tom, Ted, Gail and Padma all have other jobs but I'm disappointed that they can't find a few moments to comment on one of the highlight episodes of the season. Would it be too much to ask for a guest blog from Bourdain? Cmon Bravo sumthin ain't right!!


They are laying low!!!! When the bleep hits the fan like this, they have learned that it's better to be "Busy opening a Restaraunt" or some other excuse than blog. Poor Lee Anne gets stuck holding the bag.
Jazzie53-Cyberklutz
QUOTE (Pita @ May 22, 2008 - 09:51 AM) *
The Ignore and Report buttons are my friends.


I'll drink to that! Chai tea and brandy, if you'd care to join me.

Jazzie
WhataJoke
QUOTE (Zia @ May 22, 2008 - 11:03 AM) *
I realize that the judges adopted Tom's rationale that Jen and her partner only technically followed the rules and their food tasted bad...whereas Lisa and her partner didn't follow the rules at all but their food tasted better. The bottom line was that Lisa and her partner didn't follow the rules and they didn't because Lisa flat out said she couldn't think of a creative way to cook Polish sausage so she chose something she did know how to cook. Why didn't they say to her as they did to Niki: "You should have made your own polish sausage." Lisa was the real candidate for dismissal in that challenge. They kept her on because she's more entertaining than Jen was.


Pretty much a spot on assesment. Don't forget they Drank a shot of tequilla instead of incorperating "Drunken" into the dish as well. So they blew off two criteria.
topchefan
QUOTE (SimonBao @ May 22, 2008 - 12:51 PM) *
Rady, that really is a low point in a Restaurant Wars competition. And I do believe it was a deliberate choice on Spike's part. To remove himself from any blame for what might happen.

But from a Judge's point of view, can you eliminate someone for what they managed to not mess up? Probably not. Spike doesn't deserve to still be there but it would be hard to argue he deserved to go home last night.

Though... I'll buy his bus ticket.


Do you think he is going next week?
topchefan
QUOTE (SimonBao @ May 22, 2008 - 01:01 PM) *
I don't think much of the "playing the game" stuff but... I do kind of wish Dale had taken a page from Hung last season.

Though he was pretty clearly better qualified (in theory) to be Exec Chef for The Bad News Bears, he stepped aside and let Sara assert herself and claim that role.

He did then go on to cook very well, total asset to his team, but there was no way he was ever going to be sent home, no matter what went wrong with that team.

Had Dale let Lisa be EC, had Dale really really focused on his dishes, thought through what he was doing, he'd still be here, I really think so. Even if he did Butterscotch Scotch Whiskey Willy Wonka Miso Paste Scallops, it would be Lisa taking some of the blame for that also.


Agreed. His need for power/control did not serve him well in this case.
KSboy
QUOTE (SimonBao @ May 22, 2008 - 10:19 AM) *
Will you please shut the F up and stop creating more new Log In names and repeating yourself endlessly? We got your point.


Simon, I've gone back and forth on whether to post this comment, but decided I just can't hold back.

First, let me say that you are, by far, the poster that I most respect (and learn the most from) on the TC boards. At times, when I am in a rush but want to quickly check the boards, I make sure I stop to read anything you post. If you disagree with something I've posted, I seriously stop and think about whether I was misguided.

That's why I am so bewildered by the posts I've seen from you both last week and this week accusing some new posters of setting up multiple monikers just so they can repost similar messages. Frankly, that is a fairly serious accusation to make against anyone, and I can think of a few people on these boards who have been seriously hurt and offended when others made similar accusations about them.

Do you have evidence to back up your accusations? If not, may I politely suggest that you give people the benefit of the doubt, rather than post unproven suspicions? Frankly, these accusatory posts from you seem so out of whack with the fair-minded, even brilliant poster that you otherwise seem to be.
kerouac
I lost respect for Bourdain this week, I thought he was smart and witty but he really just spits out random thoughts from his big ugly head. I watch No Reservations religiously but not anymore.

Oh one more thing, he needs to get his teeth fixed, looks terrible on tv.
WhataJoke
QUOTE (dcjewbear @ May 22, 2008 - 11:25 AM) *
If you look back at the page that this post was made on you will see that this was one post in the middle of chaos. I was just trying to cool people out, which I should know was useless. Most of these people were on their 2nd, 3rd or 4th posts. The language was horrifying; one person actually had f*ck in their screen name, and I wasn't even aware you could do that.

You and I disagree on the quality, but ,surely, we can agree that it's on television, is a show, and is not the sort of thing to lose one's mind about. I have someone at home who was just in the hospital, and is convalescing at home. I just don't think this is something to go batsh*t about. It isn't. It just is not.


But not likeing the Martix movies does deserve the double batshit treatment? LOL.
Just giving you crap bear.

Most of the posts have just been rants. There have been the random scumbags that the BBB "should" be taking care of. Hey I like to be as potentially offensive as possible but there are lines you can't cross.

Don't sweat it and tell the boy A Sox fan is rooting for him to have a John Lesteresque recovery.
Radyms13
QUOTE (topchefan @ May 22, 2008 - 03:50 PM) *
Do you think he is going next week?



From the previews it looks like it could be Spike or Richard----but I may be wrong.
WhataJoke
QUOTE (SimonBao @ May 22, 2008 - 11:47 AM) *
Baby vomit, wood chips, Prince's van, Willy Wonka scallops...

Come on, we never get that kind of stuff from Bonecrusher Colicchio. rolleyes.gif


Absolutely. His Parole Board comment had me rolling as did his discription of what he would do if someone dumped on him in the kitchen. My sides hurt from laughing.
WhataJoke
QUOTE (SimonBao @ May 22, 2008 - 11:56 AM) *
Well, whether folks are being sarcastic or not, do any of these "I Know How To Cook Rice" even know what "Sticky Rice" is?

Doubt it...


Does it matter if they know what it is or that they know Lisa couldn't cook it or brown rice correctly two weeks in a row?

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topchefan
QUOTE (teleburst @ May 22, 2008 - 01:26 PM) *
Agreed. That's why I was wondering if he was actually sandbagging. He seems to have negotiated the maze quite cleverly and has done it in a most unusal way, by contantly being near the bottom without actually BEING the bottom.

The fact that he's been a d1ckhead about it is just a drama plus.


Well, he was thought to be one of the better contestants according to this article. ( I know this has been posted before, but it is just a reminder.)

Richard Blais, Andrew D'Ambrosi, Dale Talde, Spike Mendelsohn and Manuel Trevino all seem to have the moxie and experience to take the title. Like their victorious predecessors, they've worked in some decent kitchens and withstood the pressure.

Top Chef attracts Top Talent for Fourth Season
WhataJoke
QUOTE (TopChefSuperFan @ May 22, 2008 - 12:01 PM) *
Why don't the exec chefs from the winning teams WIN the challenges? Dale went for losing. Something is not quite right about that.


No Idea. You would think it would be rewarding to give them some props for putting their necks out. But in Steph's defense she did make two great dishes and knocked out front of the house.
Toad
QUOTE (Kristlkrost @ May 22, 2008 - 02:47 PM) *
Simon unless you like futility and
like typing and you are a sado masochist
( you could be for all I know and good
for you wink.gif )
you might want to give it up because they will never believe anything else...It just ain't gonna' happen....That little disclaimer on the bottom of the show is the ruin of it all. YES the producers be and will be from time to time consulted...They would almost have to be. It covers (I know YOU know) a vast array of other situations....BUT Tom says over and over and over and over and yes one
more.... over that they DO not make
the decisions based on their advice.

Now if Tom is like most Italian men I
know....he ain't never gonna' let
anyone tell him what to do...unless there is a potential whacking involved tongue.gif

He says it and so does everyone involved in the show....They not only say it they pretty much swear by it.. Tom says they did try and tell him once to keep someone for ratings...Miguel and
Miguel left....Isn't that enough to make anyone know that Tom does not listen to them
as Miguel was ratings gold. NO...it never will be as most peeps do not research this show like
we do.. They watch once and start
screaming.. They want peeps to go home because they don't like them or because they are ugly or wear pink crocs.....Welcome to the
American TV viewing public and as PB said
(still mad at you for Chuc) half our voters.

And we wonder????

For the rest who DO research the show and say this....There has never been one decision that I felt was unfair because I believe them and trust them but that's just me.....I'm a NYer. I don't trust many peeps.... but I do them.

Gail.. Tom...Ted ..Bourdain and all the
rest of the judges and fine chefs on that
show are being done a great disservice here based on conjecture and a mistrust that confounds me. And it pains me....it really does...They are basically calling peeps who have worked all their lives to accomplish greatness....liars.

And if you don't believe them...you are
not gonna' believe Boulod..Ripert...Keller
and Bourdain and the like????

Shaking head.



Ok, not sure why you singled out my post for that response, but if you must. I have already said that my post last night might have been harsh, and also that my interpretation of the preposition of the "game" has been incorrect. I will view the show with an understanding that each episode is a mission for the Top Chef of that episode and not the season, as that is Simons guidance. I won't feel as cheated when my favorite goes and one with lesser overall talent during the season stays. I also don't remember stating the Producers influenced the decision, but I might have given that impression, if so, mia culpa.
WhataJoke
QUOTE (teleburst @ May 22, 2008 - 12:26 PM) *
Agreed. That's why I was wondering if he was actually sandbagging. He seems to have negotiated the maze quite cleverly and has done it in a most unusal way, by contantly being near the bottom without actually BEING the bottom.

The fact that he's been a d1ckhead about it is just a drama plus.


I thought he should have gone for the Roll he did with Miguel but that aside your exactly right. He literally just hovers near the middle or the bottom and show flashes of skill when it suits him.
WhataJoke
QUOTE (topchefan @ May 22, 2008 - 12:46 PM) *
Win this????? win this???? Whaaaaaaaaat??????No way in hell!!!


TCfan I would laugh hysterically if by some fluke the chefs that have been along for the ride for Drama, Spike and Lisa, somehow beat everyone and win the whole thing. I would laugh for days. If you thought Tom was a bitter bastard in his blog when Ilan won can you imagine what his reaction would be if Spike or Lisa pulls it off?

I don't see this happening but it could lol.
topchefan
QUOTE (SimonBao @ May 22, 2008 - 01:52 PM) *
Is there a sign in that second viewing that Lisa recognized that he chose a wrong rice? Or, is that something that came to her mind only after things didn't work out so well? Entirely possible that neither one of them were paying close attention to which kind of rice they were handling.


Point well made. But as I saw it...he picked it off the shelf. She could have challenged it at that moment. She did not.
WhataJoke
QUOTE (Sidney175 @ May 22, 2008 - 01:06 PM) *
You're an idiot judge if:
1. You can't tell a player from a competitor.
2. You're also a big name chef and expect all chefs to be Martha Stewart also.
3. You FAIL to weigh in a competitor's accomplishments in the previous rounds in your deliberations, especially when the other people they're up against are utter failures.
4.


You write 4. but fail to list the critera.

Oh wait that just makes you an idiot poster!!!

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WhataJoke
QUOTE (topchefan @ May 22, 2008 - 01:54 PM) *
Simon, have you been taking lessons in wit from What a Joke? biggrin.gif


Ole Simon's his dander up and I think I like it too TCfan. lol
WhataJoke
QUOTE (Kristlkrost @ May 22, 2008 - 02:05 PM) *
I don't think WAJ stands on corners!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


Naughty Naughty! Don't make me sic my army of screen names on you!

laugh.gif
krkrbts
Predictions- So Dale is out- I predict Lisa will be next followed by Spike. That should not be too surprising.

Once it is down to Stephanie, Antonia and Richard, one of the women will lose. Whoever the remaining woman is, she will beat Richard.
topchefan
QUOTE (KSBEAR @ May 22, 2008 - 02:21 PM) *
Actually she didn't. It was pulled from the fire too soon and was the wrong kind of rice for what they were making. As I said, she should have voluntarily pulled her dishes or Dale should have yanked them. It was his job to make sure everything that went out was quality. He didn't. So, he had to go.


Sorry. I meant in the grocery store. It clearly shows that he picked at least three small bags of rice off the top shelf.
topchefan
QUOTE (KSBEAR @ May 22, 2008 - 02:21 PM) *
Actually she didn't. It was pulled from the fire too soon and was the wrong kind of rice for what they were making. As I said, she should have voluntarily pulled her dishes or Dale should have yanked them. It was his job to make sure everything that went out was quality. He didn't. So, he had to go.


Sorry. I meant in the grocery store. It clearly shows that he picked at least three small bags of rice off the top shelf.
topchefan
QUOTE (WhataJoke @ May 22, 2008 - 03:29 PM) *
I would LOVE to see Tom and Bordain but heads every week. Jive Tony half a season and he'd have Tom whipped into shape. Can you say culinary ED McMahon?


That would be delickcious!
topchefan
QUOTE (Radyms13 @ May 22, 2008 - 03:53 PM) *
From the previews it looks like it could be Spike or Richard----but I may be wrong.


That was my thought. Spike and Richard were on the right end. Seemed to me that Padma was looking their way. Goodness, I surely do hope it is not Richard.
WhataJoke
QUOTE (Kristlkrost @ May 22, 2008 - 03:23 PM) *
Spike?? Drama??
Wha'????? The hot tub with Mark??
Spike is about as dramatic as Zinna was.
What drama has he caused??
Andrew...Dale.... Jen and Zoie
(yeah you screamed about that
one for weeks.....uh didn't pan out did it??)
the BIG dude sorry name.
They COULD and did 'cause drama and
ummm... they are all gone.

If they wanted to keep peeps for ratings and drama they would have NEVER let Andrew go.
And Steph and Richard and Antonia would be long gone.


Sorry KK but your bonkers if you think Spike isn't a conflict magnet or a producer's dream.

He caused Jen to blow up afer Zoi got the boot.
He called out Dale as a "little [expletive deleted]" in front of the judges.
He made Antonia blocking soup a major issue and then smugly sucked up to the judges.
He called Nikki's mushrooms turds. "Do you want to put a turd in your mouth?" lol.
He giggled manicaly as stared into the camera and said "Have fun making a box lunch with no bread, no leattuce, no tomato or no chicken" lol.
He works front of the house deliberately and said"there is now way they can blame the food on me."
He went into wedding wars and made one dish well and dogged it by design. He's the Top Chef version of Richard Hatch! All he needs to do now is fish naked! lol.
partsgirl
QUOTE (Top_Czech @ May 22, 2008 - 03:23 AM) *
The man wears pink Crocs. doesn't reminding him to flame seem a little unnecessary?



You are disgusting. Has it ever occurred to anyone that Richard might wear the pink Crocs as a tribute to a family member fighting breast cancer? Your hatred overwhelms me. All of you with your venom and utter evilness. Grow up. Shut up. You put your pants on one leg at a time like every body else. Differences are a delightful reminder of the true beauty of the human race. You cretins with your insufferable hatred are the epitome of stupidity. Now go kiss your children goodnight with that foul mouth.
WhataJoke
QUOTE (krkrbts @ May 22, 2008 - 03:25 PM) *
Predictions- So Dale is out- I predict Lisa will be next followed by Spike. That should not be too surprising.

Once it is down to Stephanie, Antonia and Richard, one of the women will lose. Whoever the remaining woman is, she will beat Richard.


I don't know I don't like the way Richie is looking on the line in this next episode. If he goes and with only Spike to beat the producers could pretty much cash in with the first female top chef. And I would laugh my ass off if it was Lisa. If Lisa wins Top Chef these boards will make Chernobyl look like Myrtle Beach. Set threat level to Fushcia!!
Radyms13
QUOTE (topchefan @ May 22, 2008 - 04:35 PM) *
That was my thought. Spike and Richard were on the right end. Seemed to me that Padma was looking their way. Goodness, I surely do hope it is not Richard.



If it is Richard things around here certainly aren't going to be pretty!! Really hoping it's Spike!
Zia
QUOTE (WhataJoke @ May 22, 2008 - 03:35 PM) *
Sorry KK but your bonkers if you think Spike isn't a conflict magnet or a producer's dream.

He caused Jen to blow up afer Zoi got the boot.
He called out Dale as a "little [expletive deleted]" in front of the judges.
He made Antonia blocking soup a major issue and then smugly sucked up to the judges.
He called Nikki's mushrooms turds. "Do you want to put a turd in your mouth?" lol.
He giggled manicaly as stared into the camera and said "Have fun making a box lunch with no bread, no leattuce, no tomato or no chicken" lol.
He works front of the house deliberately and said"there is now way they can blame the food on me."
He went into wedding wars and made one dish well and dogged it by design. He's the Top Chef version of Richard Hatch! All he needs to do now is fish naked! lol.



Ooooh. That's right on the money WhataJoke.

TC is really an evolved reality TV show and Spike is what every reality TV show needs - the guy who constantly keeps things stirred up.
Toad
QUOTE (Radyms13 @ May 22, 2008 - 03:46 PM) *
If it is Richard things around here certainly aren't going to be pretty!!


Why? The rules are..you have a bad day, you go home. Richard is as capable of having a bad day in the kitchen as anyone.
Toad
One more question. As I have joined this little party just yesterday, Simon Bao, what is your connection to Top Chef? You wouldn't be T-Bone, would you?
partsgirl
QUOTE (SimonBao @ May 22, 2008 - 09:35 AM) *
Alisa, just so YOU understand, that is not how one cooks Sticky Rice. That is not how one cooks Brown Rice.

Non-foodies and non-cooks who want to teach cooking should go to Food Network.



Amen, Simon. I have cooked stick rice just a handful of times. It is a daunting task. When done correctly it's fabulous. When it's wrong it is garbage. LOL@ FN!
Cats
QUOTE (Toad @ May 22, 2008 - 04:10 PM) *
Why? The rules are..you have a bad day, you go home. Richard is as capable of having a bad day in the kitchen as anyone.



Hi! I am new at this , but wanted to say that I think Lisa is the one that should go home. She is arrogant, and also seems to be incompetent; she cannot even figure out how to turn the burners on the stove. If she was to smile her face would break. I think she should have gone home instead of of Dale.
WhataJoke
QUOTE (Kristlkrost @ May 22, 2008 - 03:44 PM) *
You call THAT drama????

I guess drama is subjective
cause honey welcome to my life!!!

NO
telling Tom you will have to call
security to remove from you from
MY hawse
is drama.

Kicking chairs and maybe
a potential love spat with the Lebanese
ladies that might or might not include knife usage is drama.. Punching lockers
(Psh lol on the plaque) and grabbing crotches
is drama and staring at someone maniacally
is drama.
Holding someone down to try and shave
their head is drama.
He stirs the pot..But real honest to goodness drama...To keep him around for that??
You do NOT know reality TV producers as
you think you do at ALL then.
Spike is only good for drama if Dale is there
and if then .....What's he gonna' do now???

Push Richard over the edge and he might flatten his faux hawk or change his pink crocs???.
I do not see it and if Mark had stayed

and they did really fall in man love in the hot tub....mebbe!!!


Oh and that pot would stir very nicely on
it's own without Spike...He ain't that important.


Andrew was good for soundbites. Not drama. If andrew was good for Drama and conflict he would have sold Richard down the river for knowing about the scales on the fish before hand and playing stupid infront of the judges.

Well the lebanese ladies might have been far more interesting if Bravo wasn't pulling the strings on their behavior behind the scenes. That Chow interview with Jen shedded some light on that I would say.

I actually KNOW reality TV people. I KNOW TV producers. I KNOW the ad business as it relates to ratings and buyrates. You think a potential sponsor is going to clamor to buy ad space on a show when the upfront shows nothing but food and some guy sticking his head into a small helmet or a Kiwi playng a diggery do? Not likely.

And Spike is good for drama and conflict period. Dale leaving added to that believe it or not. Now everyone wants to see him and Lisa gone.
Clements
I was noticing that Richard seemed to be nursing a hurt back. It's possible that he isn't able to work at the same level as everyone else and loses by default, but that would be a real shame.
Jazzie53-Cyberklutz
QUOTE (WhataJoke @ May 22, 2008 - 03:41 PM) *
I don't know I don't like the way Richie is looking on the line in this next episode. If he goes and with only Spike to beat the producers could pretty much cash in with the first female top chef. And I would laugh my ass off if it was Lisa. If Lisa wins Top Chef these boards will make Chernobyl look like Myrtle Beach. Set threat level to Fushcia!!


Oh lordie lordie lordie! I'd have to put the porch on lockdown if that happens!!!
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Maybe we should start stocking emergency supplies now? I'll bring the chai and brandy!
dogabone
I may be alone in this, but as much as I find Lisa unpleasant, I think Spike should have been last night's ejectee. He was lauded for being smart by staying out of the kitchen, but as I recall, Brian was called on the carpet for the same thing when he was FOH in last season's Restaurant Wars.

Spike's smirking at JT didn't help my opinion of him either, and although Dale wasn't familiar with Lisa's failed soup, Spike was. He claimed it was beyond saving, but I wouldn't be surprised if he just wanted to see Lisa fall on her face. After all, the team could simply have held the soup back since they had a second appetizer—even if it was Butterscotch Scallops!
Jazzie53-Cyberklutz
QUOTE (partsgirl @ May 22, 2008 - 03:39 PM) *
You are disgusting. Has it ever occurred to anyone that Richard might wear the pink Crocs as a tribute to a family member fighting breast cancer? Your hatred overwhelms me. All of you with your venom and utter evilness. Grow up. Shut up. You put your pants on one leg at a time like every body else. Differences are a delightful reminder of the true beauty of the human race. You cretins with your insufferable hatred are the epitome of stupidity. Now go kiss your children goodnight with that foul mouth.

Agreed! Never judge a book by its cover, or a chef by the color of his Crocs!
Want some tea, or coffee?

*pouring another cup for self*
WhataJoke
QUOTE (Jazzie53 @ May 22, 2008 - 04:31 PM) *
Oh lordie lordie lordie! I'd have to put the porch on lockdown if that happens!!!
ph34r.gif
Maybe we should start stocking emergency supplies now? I'll bring the chai and brandy!


If that happens board up the windows and break out the MRE's in the basement. Martial Law might be needed to restore order.
JayCiuM
QUOTE (dogabone @ May 22, 2008 - 04:32 PM) *
I may be alone in this, but as much as I find Lisa unpleasant, I think Spike should have been last night's ejectee. He was lauded for being smart by staying out of the kitchen, but as I recall, Brian was called on the carpet for the same thing when he was FOH in last season's Restaurant Wars.

...!



Oh Pls! It's always been "hypocrite city" on Top Chef and other Bravo Productions! They do it all the time! If you leave something off a plate, they ask where is it; then scold person for including something that didn't work on that same plate the next show! It's so BOGUS; integrity, taste, class, impartiality! Come on! 8-)
Zia
QUOTE (dogabone @ May 22, 2008 - 04:32 PM) *
I may be alone in this, but as much as I find Lisa unpleasant, I think Spike should have been last night's ejectee. He was lauded for being smart by staying out of the kitchen, but as I recall, Brian was called on the carpet for the same thing when he was FOH in last season's Restaurant Wars.

Spike's smirking at JT didn't help my opinion of him either, and although Dale wasn't familiar with Lisa's failed soup, Spike was. He claimed it was beyond saving, but I wouldn't be surprised if he just wanted to see Lisa fall on her face. After all, the team could simply have held the soup back since they had a second appetizer—even if it was Butterscotch Scallops!



Dogabone, I thought Lisa should go last night, but I can see where you're coming from. Spike's strategy is all about winning without performing.
topchefan
QUOTE (Jazzie53 @ May 22, 2008 - 05:31 PM) *
Oh lordie lordie lordie! I'd have to put the porch on lockdown if that happens!!!
ph34r.gif
Maybe we should start stocking emergency supplies now? I'll bring the chai and brandy!


No. You will not have to put the porch on lockdown. You will have to open up the porch and the lawn to the hundreds/millions? of crying tcfans who will come to you seeking each other and looking for a sympathetic shoulder.
ilovetc
Honestly, Dale, Lisa, Spike? They all make for good TV. I do not believe Dale was ousted to keep the other two on. I just believe his principles led him to want the Exec Chef position and he didn't game play. Spike, and possibly Lisa, were much more game savvy.

Mores the pity.

Oh, Dale! Didn't you watch last season?
Vcruz
QUOTE (Zia @ May 22, 2008 - 04:47 PM) *
Dogabone, I thought Lisa should go last night, but I can see where you're coming from. Spike's strategy is all about winning without performing.


I was very disappointed to see Dale go. He was the BEST chef on the show and quite honestly I really do not think I will continue to watch it.

Lisa or Spike should have went - hands down. They are both untalented and uncreative. Spike is a weasel and Lisa is a whiner and refused to own up to her poor cooking skills. I just can't believe these two have managed to slide by so far. Pure luck - not talent that is for sure.

I say bring Dale back for another round and let's see the competition get really hot.

Dale if you are reading this - you were the best and you deserved to the be the TOP CHEF!
partsgirl
QUOTE (ireallyeffinghatelisa @ May 21, 2008 - 11:34 PM) *
The producers of Top Chef need to be arse raped by a rusty, glass-riddled pipe while getting tiny Plexiglass cuts all over their bodies, and then drowned in mixture of citric acid and bleach for letting that effing twat slip by ONCE AGAIN, while another brilliant chef got sent home for small lapses in judgement...

I really hate Top Chef now...

I swear to all that is holy if one of those women miscreants wins the whole thing then I will not even consider watching the next season. I am ill with the thought that they are suppose to represent us women as the top female chefs....

AND WHY IS THERE NOT A FLAMEY EMOTICON OF DEATH...



QUOTE (Zia @ May 22, 2008 - 01:07 PM) *
I don't think people are taunting Lisa as much as they are grasping for a suitable way to frame their surprise and exasperation over the fact that she has been kept on because she is an entertaining figure (in the same way a train wreck is).

The problem is, we can't find words that are strong enough to describe the unfairness of the judging process this season.

The reason that we are all so disgusted by this recent development is that we watch Top Chef to see top chefs ply their skills in the creation of elegant dishes. We don't watch it to see see the intrigue that results when a bully like Lisa or a snake like Spike are thrown into the final just to provide entertainment value.

It's not the writers on this board who are demonizing Spike and Lisa. Bravo and the judges have done that by choosing to advance these contestants on the theory that we won't stay entertained unless we have a villain as well as a hero. Our villains in the past have at least been passable chefs.


So, what you're saying is that the words in the post above yours are just grasping for a handle on what happened on this episode? That venomous spew wasn't strong enough? Certainly there are better forms of communicating our disgust than advocating rape
partsgirl
QUOTE (teleburst @ May 22, 2008 - 01:26 PM) *
Agreed. That's why I was wondering if he was actually sandbagging. He seems to have negotiated the maze quite cleverly and has done it in a most unusal way, by contantly being near the bottom without actually BEING the bottom.

The fact that he's been a d1ckhead about it is just a drama plus.



blink.gif Did it just get cold in here? Did you say "agree" in conjunction to a WAJ post? Back away from the aluminum, dear... laugh.gif
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