Wonder why the people at her job MADE her read the posts? Doesn't that seem odd?

TC fan. I agree completely. I love me some tofu and have no problem not eating meat and I absolutely LOVE beef, chicken, pork etc...

My problem is not with people being vegetarian. That is the same as any other choice a person makes in theri life. My problem is the folks who cast people who enjoy meat as bloodthirsty muderers who go seal clubbing on the weekends.

Call me crazy but making a lifestyle choice, no matter what it is, does not make you a better or worse person than the next guy.

Have I told you how much I love you lately? You are my darlin' WOW! (Wizard Of Wit!)

Smooches,
tcfan

Now just remember... I am old, fat, ugly, and married!

Oh, I dunno. I bet they make her stay in the kitchen.

quoted from Lisa'a interview*****
***And if you want to check out her handiwork at Mai House, by the way, be sure to order the crispy watercress salad (it's similar to her dish during the "zoo food" episode) or the miso-maple glaze pork belly, a twist on the bacon that wowed the judges table early on the in the show. And yes, says Fernandes, she's putting the famous peanut butter mashed potatoes from last week's episode on the menu.


Bacon that WOWED the judges, what is wrong with this statement???? Bacon is delicious on its own and just because you put some glaze on it doesn't mean you deserve any congrats. Famous peanut butter mashed potatoes....please there is a difference between famous and infamous

Hee hee ...

I'm a long-standing Steelers fan so I'm quite familiar with the 1-14/15 season deal.
(don't shoot me because I'm loyal - as I duck beneath the table )

Some would give her a 0 - 16 season if I'm catching the jest of some of the more vocal posters ......

I was curious what you would say was the one good win (- please don't say it was just the bacon. )

I was never comparing Lisa to Spike and to imply that Lisa and Spike are interchangeable holds no water. On Top Chef, with Spike it was never about the food but how to play the game, how to survive to the next round. Spike is probably a good chef when he puts his mind to it, when he's not trying to make the guy next to him look bad. He did supply the recipe to his team's only good dish in restaurant wars. Was it Ted Allen who said Spike was a better politician than a cook? While Lisa isn't on the level of a Richard or Stephanie, I believe that without Dale around harassing her that a big weight has been lifted off her shoulders and she can concentrate more on cooking unless Richard decides to take up where Dale left off.

Oh, I see what you're saying now.


Hmmm...what would be Lisa's 1?


Hmmm......


























Well, she got on the show in the first place....... Does that count?

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Now, where do I send the bill for the new keyboard?!?!

Clean up on isle Friday Night!!!!!!!

*** using half a roll of paper towels to clean up the computer ***

I guess it will have to.

Lisa must have a really good guardian angel hanging over her shoulder.

Now, where do I send the bill for the new keyboard?!?!

Man! All the great philosophical truths come from Captain Kirk It's weird when you watch science fiction and you think...we are approaching that. I think that sometimes when I read Phillip K [expletive deleted]. I think....sort of like the art/life immitation thing. are technology & scientific advancements influenced by science fiction or were the writers just that....prophetical (is that a word? I don't know but I just made it if it isn't! haha) LIke, did some kid read [expletive deleted] when they were young and think...one day I am going to make a machine that tells you all about your chemistry when you pee into it and people will buy it and use it at home, or was [expletive deleted] just so brilliant that he knew science/technology/economy/consumerism would one day reach that point? I'm not saying we have reached that point, but it is certainly possible I'm sure. One day soon, our toilets will tell us all about our health! haha.

Oh my goodness..... they edited [expletive deleted]. wow. Maybe if I capitalize it? [expletive deleted]...well anyway, Phillip K. Penis. maybe they will let that slide?

I see a watercress and fennel salad on the menu, but no miso pork belly or peanut mash. How long ago was that interview?

true dat, mikat!!
and has anybody noticed that stephanie constantly wows the judges with stuff she's never made before, whereas lisa makes stuff she's made before (laksa, peanut butter mash, that last dish in puerto rico, etc) but it STILL sucks? so i don't know how it's a bonus that some of her infamous dishes are going to be put on the menu at mai house... and whoever said that her taking the place of spike is a testament that she's a good chef... seriously?

It's dated today.

Man! All the great philosophical truths come from Captain Kirk It's weird when you watch science fiction and you think...we are approaching that. I think that sometimes when I read Phillip K [expletive deleted]. I think....sort of like the art/life immitation thing. are technology & scientific advancements influenced by science fiction or were the writers just that....prophetical (is that a word? I don't know but I just made it if it isn't! haha) LIke, did some kid read [expletive deleted] when they were young and think...one day I am going to make a machine that tells you all about your chemistry when you pee into it and people will buy it and use it at home, or was [expletive deleted] just so brilliant that he knew science/technology/economy/consumerism would one day reach that point? I'm not saying we have reached that point, but it is certainly possible I'm sure. One day soon, our toilets will tell us all about our health! haha.

Oh my goodness..... they edited [expletive deleted]. wow. Maybe if I capitalize it? [expletive deleted]...well anyway, Phillip K. Penis. maybe they will let that slide?

Now, WhataJoke, our wonderful wizard of wit, are you sure about this???

JohnW,
Where did you here that Lisa replaced Spike, because I don't think they would advertise a tasting menu based on Spikes menus from Top Chef, serving this week, if Lisa was the Chef. You must be mistaken. Complete with his mug.

http://newyork.going.com/event-292780;Top_...nu_at_Mai_House

I'm having steak (NYStrip) and forgot to buy a rub. I'm not really good at putting spices together. Any suggestions? My spice cabinet is a little sparse too, so just suggest stuff that everyone keeps in their kitchen. Thanks.

The link that I posted with her interview says she's the chef there now.

So, Informal question.

In terms of former and current villians, which one winning would have had, or will have the worst impact on the show?

Tiffani, Marcel or Lisa?

I say Lisa simply because she has been a far worse cook (don't even call her a chef) and has "seemed" (trying to be objective) to be the beneficiary of some rather slanted judgements.

Nothing but awful PR and viewer outrage can come from her winning.

TC Cruise?


I got an email ad from Bravotv with a big image of Antonia and 3 side ads -- 1 saying "Want to cruise to the Mediterranean with oyr favorite Top Cheftestants?" and gives a phone number.

It's in html but no links or 'hot' spots -- it looks almost like a magazine ad.

I looked on this website and couldn't find any mention of it at all.

Anyone know what gives? Anyone able to 'click through' the email to the bravotv site?

I sell cruises as part of my job and have often wondered if TC fans could fill up a whole boat. Just curious what people think of this idea.

I don't know about this -- they let Ilan win -- and I think he's pretty darned far from 'elite'! ... and 'qualities' -- pahhleez. I don't want to rehash -- but Tom wanted to dump all -- not just Cliff -- of the drunken idiots involved in the head shaving incident but he got over ruled --
worst season ever imho -- worst winner yet --- and still an embarassment whenever they have to 'highlight' him as a winner.

I HOPE you're right about Lisa not winning -- and I WISH your description of how these things work was always true and it SHOULD be always true -- but we've already seen different -- sooooo we'll have to wait and see.

I disagree.

whatever restaurant lisa works in should be named "MAI CRAP". I'm sure the judges and producers of the show would be the first in line.

Ahhh,,,I don't think so considering it is owned by Drew Nieporent, a premiere restauranteur who doesn't do crap.

Never expected to see this much activity when I took a peek in here, but like many others, decided to register to make a few comments (and please forgive any redundancy, as I've not read all 56 pages in detail, but I get the gist.)

Not surprisingly, I'm also in the Lisa-doesn't-belong there camp, but, JUST assuming that the "popular fiction" that it's "only the food" every week that constitutes the judging criteria (and, personally, I thought most of hers looked pretty awful, and she was certainly roundly criticized for an apparent inability to use difficult ingredients like, oh, salt, and even though we hear that the judges don't see what goes on behind the scenes, only the food........okay, I'll even take that at face value), BUT (and it's a big one) if they judge merely what they see in front of them each week, how in the world can the demeanor at Judges Table not be a factor? Surely they can't think that someone calling out others and THEM, the people in charge of their fate, bodes well for giving the impression that you are one who might work and play well with others.

You'll often hear them going on about qualities like leadership skills, management skills, working well with others, and willingness to learn from your mistakes as necessary qualities in running a kitchen. How someone who week after week, not only was criticized for the mediocrity of her food, consistently was belligerent to both her coworkers and the "bosses" keeps flying under the radar is utterly beyond me. Some of the things Lisa's done at Judges Table have been completely obnoxious, uncalled for, and downright mean (not to mention, defensive and frequently lies).

Let's give a couple of examples, just from last night's episode (and for these purposes, I'll leave Antonia out of it, though she seemed to be the superior chef of the bottom two and certainly a nicer person whom people seemed to like and could work well on a team).....Lisa vs. others left:

VERY few people could get through Dale's little whoopsie (and not a little one) with the vast equanimity that Stephanie did. After the first moment of disappointment, she rolled up her sleeves, evaluated the situation, reeled Dale and his obvious horror at the mistake back in nicely, didn't go ballistic, and managed to work with Dale to turn out what apparently turned out to be one of the best dishes of the night. Most people (primarily Lisa, but I could name others) would've been hurling invectives, accusing others of sabotaging them, swearing like a sailor, and wasting well-needed time to make the problem worse rather than better. I give Stephanie huge credit for how she handled that.

Richard got a pretty hard-to-take slap on the hand after the quickfire, his (understandable and normal) disappointment was obvious on his face at the time, but, again, rolled up his sleeves and did a darn good job of working harder, making better food, and "redeeming" himself.

Both, to me, are examples of grace under pressure, a real work ethic, an ability to learn to improve when they've tripped a bit, and, overall, IMO, the sorts of well-rounded qualities (including their wonderful cooking) that any restauranteur would want to have running a kitchen.

That Lisa would have the NERVE to go in and start lambasting two obviously exhausted (and yes, they were disappointed to see Antonio go, had just endured a fairly emotional farewell to a valued colleague -- another thing I like about them is that they thrive competing against people who are up to their level) in that completely uncalled for way was absolutely horrifying. She knew she skated by, but she just had to rub it in that she was still there. If this were the sort of competition where the judges actually had to hire her to run a kitchen, I'd hope to snicker that they might take her unbelievably bad attitude more into account.

In short, I'm kindapuzzled at this point. And, clearly, disappointed...even during years when there were obno people in the finals (Tiffani, Marcel, Hung), you could at least appreciate that they were advancing because they could cook.......

I disagree.

ok i'm kind of computer illiterate here, could someone please help me. when you want to comment on one of the judges blogs, what in the world are you supposed to put in the space wanting your URL? What is an URL? some one please answer my question please.

And yet she's been in the bottom group both times since Dale left. Why still make excuses for her?

I wouldn't say that Lisa and Spike are interchangeable, but evaluating either one of them strictly as chefs, I'd put them far, far below not only Richard and Stephanie, but Antonia, Jen, Andrew, both Dales, both Saras, Tre, Hung, Casey, Brian, Howie, CJ, Sam, Ilan, Elia, Marcel, Betty, Harold, Tiffani, Dave, Lee Anne, Miguel--and I'd seriously have to think about anyone I didn't mention (except maybe Ken).

Now that I think of it, they're not the equivalent of a 1-15 NFL team. They're a 0- or 1-win NCAA team trying to play in the NFL.

whatever restaurant lisa works in should be named "MAI CRAP". I'm sure the judges and producers of the show would be the first in line.

Drew Niaporent's Mai House was named one of the 10 best new restaurants in 2007. In New York City that means something.

Man! All the great philosophical truths come from Captain Kirk It's weird when you watch science fiction and you think...we are approaching that. I think that sometimes when I read Phillip K [expletive deleted]. I think....sort of like the art/life immitation thing. are technology & scientific advancements influenced by science fiction or were the writers just that....prophetical (is that a word? I don't know but I just made it if it isn't! haha) LIke, did some kid read [expletive deleted] when they were young and think...one day I am going to make a machine that tells you all about your chemistry when you pee into it and people will buy it and use it at home, or was [expletive deleted] just so brilliant that he knew science/technology/economy/consumerism would one day reach that point? I'm not saying we have reached that point, but it is certainly possible I'm sure. One day soon, our toilets will tell us all about our health! haha.

Oh my goodness..... they edited [expletive deleted]. wow. Maybe if I capitalize it? [expletive deleted]...well anyway, Phillip K. Penis. maybe they will let that slide?

Never expected to see this much activity when I took a peek in here, but like many others, decided to register to make a few comments (and please forgive any redundancy, as I've not read all 56 pages in detail, but I get the gist.)

Not surprisingly, I'm also in the Lisa-doesn't-belong there camp, but, JUST assuming that the "popular fiction" that it's "only the food" every week that constitutes the judging criteria (and, personally, I thought most of hers looked pretty awful, and she was certainly roundly criticized for an apparent inability to use difficult ingredients like, oh, salt, and even though we hear that the judges don't see what goes on behind the scenes, only the food........okay, I'll even take that at face value), BUT (and it's a big one) if they judge merely what they see in front of them each week, how in the world can the demeanor at Judges Table not be a factor? Surely they can't think that someone calling out others and THEM, the people in charge of their fate, bodes well for giving the impression that you are one who might work and play well with others.

You'll often hear them going on about qualities like leadership skills, management skills, working well with others, and willingness to learn from your mistakes as necessary qualities in running a kitchen. How someone who week after week, not only was criticized for the mediocrity of her food, consistently was belligerent to both her coworkers and the "bosses" keeps flying under the radar is utterly beyond me. Some of the things Lisa's done at Judges Table have been completely obnoxious, uncalled for, and downright mean (not to mention, defensive and frequently lies).

Let's give a couple of examples, just from last night's episode (and for these purposes, I'll leave Antonia out of it, though she seemed to be the superior chef of the bottom two and certainly a nicer person whom people seemed to like and could work well on a team).....Lisa vs. others left:

VERY few people could get through Dale's little whoopsie (and not a little one) with the vast equanimity that Stephanie did. After the first moment of disappointment, she rolled up her sleeves, evaluated the situation, reeled Dale and his obvious horror at the mistake back in nicely, didn't go ballistic, and managed to work with Dale to turn out what apparently turned out to be one of the best dishes of the night. Most people (primarily Lisa, but I could name others) would've been hurling invectives, accusing others of sabotaging them, swearing like a sailor, and wasting well-needed time to make the problem worse rather than better. I give Stephanie huge credit for how she handled that.

Richard got a pretty hard-to-take slap on the hand after the quickfire, his (understandable and normal) disappointment was obvious on his face at the time, but, again, rolled up his sleeves and did a darn good job of working harder, making better food, and "redeeming" himself.

Both, to me, are examples of grace under pressure, a real work ethic, an ability to learn to improve when they've tripped a bit, and, overall, IMO, the sorts of well-rounded qualities (including their wonderful cooking) that any restauranteur would want to have running a kitchen.

That Lisa would have the NERVE to go in and start lambasting two obviously exhausted (and yes, they were disappointed to see Antonio go, had just endured a fairly emotional farewell to a valued colleague -- another thing I like about them is that they thrive competing against people who are up to their level) in that completely uncalled for way was absolutely horrifying. She knew she skated by, but she just had to rub it in that she was still there. If this were the sort of competition where the judges actually had to hire her to run a kitchen, I'd hope to snicker that they might take her unbelievably bad attitude more into account.

In short, I'm kindapuzzled at this point. And, clearly, disappointed...even during years when there were obno people in the finals (Tiffani, Marcel, Hung), you could at least appreciate that they were advancing because they could cook.......

Heh, I'd love to buy a cow and learn how to make my own meat. But alas, they haven't gotten THAT fresh in my city

Until then, if I want a steak - well - hey, where else am I going to go? I don't WANT all that crap in my food, but until I can buy livestock and raise it myself (like my tiny, ultra small scale garden for a few in-season vegetables...well fruits I guess technically).

It's too bad because I'm starting to think buying the animals and raising them yourself will be cheaper in the long run with the prices of food now...

You know, if I were Antonia I would be too happy about the picture on the Bravo Home Page with the caption: This Little Piggy Went Home. uh uh. That's just wrong.

Well... one could call the killing and eating of animals "ungodly" if one adheres to a very minority form of Buddhism. But no, not even then, the All Vegan sects of Buddhism never call meat-eaters "ungodly". Or denounce the practice that way.

And it's problematic to be rooted in any aspect of the Judeo-Christian tradition and call meat-eating ungodly. Not unless one has never cracked open either testament. Yahweh LOVES his roasted meats. The patriarchs, the prophets, the kings... sucking it off the bone. Enough rules about how to prepare the meat as to almost constitute a cookbook. The Messiah was handing out fishes to people, telling parables about fatted calves and prodigals and oxen and wedding feasts. Peter & Paul dithered over how to handle pork.

Ungodly how exactly?

I suppose one could be agnostic or atheist and object to meat eating, but I don't think the objection would be phrased in terms of "ungodliness."