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angie67
QUOTE (Divamoon @ June 11, 2008 - 11:03 PM) *
STEPHANIE ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Could not agree more!! She deserved to win in so many different ways. I think I heard a sigh of relief from everywhere, including those who have not seen the show yet but logged on anyway.

Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!Stephanie
brillke
QUOTE (sampeg @ June 11, 2008 - 08:12 PM) *
His hairstyle was copied from the books of Marvel- Wolverine.




Where did you hear/read that?
aminta718
QUOTE (aminta718 @ June 11, 2008 - 08:31 PM) *
I totally agree. Obviously almost everyone on this list does. Lisa has not shown herself to be top chef material on this season. From what I have seen, she is one of the least talented of the bunch. It's unfathomable that she's still there. She must have a record for being in the bottom of the bunch. But like a cockroach, she just won't die. Even I could cook better than Lisa and I'm not a chef; I barely cook, but I don't burn rice. They should do a show the chefs vs non-chefs. Hoping Stephanie and Richard don't royally mess up the finale and Lisa wins somehow.... My favorites are Richard, Stephanie, Dale and Antonia. To me, they are the best chefs.



And I just watched Part I of the Finale again, Lisa has the gaul to demand a congratulations when she doesn't deserve it?! Unbelievable!
hanamachi
Antonia did not deserve to go home. So many people expected her to be in the final 3 with Richard and Steph. And the way the judges were talking, it sounded like she should've been. I was worried she'd beat Stephanie but I'm so happy Steph won smile.gif

What was the rationale behind the judges' keeping Lisa (and Spike) for so long? They were in the bottom 5 and 7 times respectively. Lisa and Antonia stayed for purposely and spitefully using chorizo instead of polish sausage in the improv challenge, but when Andrew didn't use a grain on the police challenge, he was sent home for it. Andrew is so weird and creepy, but if he was sent home for not following the rules (on purpose, no less) that should stand for everyone.
scotty1234
DOES ANYONE KNOW THE SONG THAT THEY ALWAYS PLAY AT THE HAPPY MOMENTS IN THE SHOW???
teleburst
QUOTE (Zia @ June 11, 2008 - 05:37 PM) *
I saw sausages in a pan. Three were nominally paler than the other Two. There might be a disconnect between my eyes and my brain on this one. What does that prove again? When I was at Whole Foods a couple days ago, I got Italian sausage and stood before the sausage counter regretting that I didn't have my camera with me so I could take a picture of the Whole Foods sausage counter and challenge those who are interested in this controversy to identify each by signt.

After Lisa and Antonia discuss getting both, Antonia is show stating to the camera that they are only going to use Chorizo. You want to say that clip is out of sequence. You don't know that any more than I do. I assume it is there to clarify that they did decide not to buy both.

Finally, I'm the person who orignally pointed out that Ted reported the dish had Polish sausage in it. He said: "It tastes good, but my question is if their ingredient is Polish sausage, why is there a great big piece of fish on it?" and one of the other diners relied: "Yeah and why is the sausage Chorizo instead of Polish?" Tom C later asks why they used Chorizo and not Polish. And Tom C declares that if the challenge called for Polish, they needed to use Polish.

The filming of this episode leaves nothing to doubt. Those who say that L&A did use Polish are the ones doing the amazing acrobatics to read sub-surface messages and a second sausage on the grassy knoll when there are none.


The other diner didn't say what you said he did. This is his exact statement - "When your primary ingredient is Polish sausage, to use chorizo is interesting, but it's not Polish sausage". He never used the -phrase "instead of". Clearly, he is probably talking about the use of Polish sausage as the main ingredient. Plus, it's not "correcting Ted" as was said in Toad's post.

As far as the sausages in the pan, it's not just that three were "nominally paler" than the others, the color is strikingly different (but I'm glad you noticed that the ratio was three to two in favor of the Polish. The original blogger didn't notice it). I don't have to distinguish between 12 types of sausage from a picture that you take at Whole Foods and be able to identify each one by sight - I simply have to see that there are two different types of sausage, one red and one greyish/pinkish. Chorizo is red. Polish is grey/pink. And, if they only have 5 1/2 lb sausages (which is what they looked like to me), they have to use them all to get at least 11 dishes with approximately 4 oz of sausage.

You assume that Antonia's confessional is there to "clarify" that they didn't use both. This is a big assumption (I think it's to create drama). The only thing that I'm assuming is that it had nothing to do with reality because they actually bought both sausages and clearly had them at the prep table. To believe what you believe, you have to assume that they threw out the Polish, which leaves only a pound of sausage to be divided between at least 11 dishes (10 diners and one for photography, and probably one other dish for them to taste). No, I didn't weigh them. But I've had some experience with sausage. For reference, this is what a lb of sausage looks like:

http://store.caviarideas.net/tesabe1lb.html
http://www.breakneckridgefarm.com/images/p.../sausage_sm.jpg
http://tinyurl.com/4yy392

It's only the clever editing and some seemingly contradictory statements (statements which cut both ways) that adds some doubt. Well, then there's the statement by Spike, but I don't think any of us really take that very seriously, considering his problem with ingredients.

The only thing that creates doubt in my mind is the photo of the dish. I don't see any Polish. But that's not definitive enough in my mind considering the angle of the shot (the fish covers most of the sausage) and considering that I can clearly see that there's not enough chorizo to go around (assuming that they decided at the last minute not to use the sausage that they had bought).

The idea that the episode leaves no doubt in your mind is a credit to the editing fairies.
sffoodie
I'm curious if Lisa congratulated Richard and Stephanie when she realized they were in the top two and she was in the bottom two.
scotty1234
do u know wut song they always played in season 4 with no vocals but was like happy music ha
teleburst
QUOTE (sampeg @ June 11, 2008 - 08:02 PM) *
I'm going to share with you how a nation of rice eaters cook rice no matter how much it is- 1 cup or 10 and I swear it ALWAYS turns out perfectly:

Rice cooking the Filipino way:

1st: Pour raw rice in pot.
2nd: Rinse rice until water is clear.
3rd: Making sure rice is evenly distributred on bottom of pot, place pointer finger on surface of the rice. Fill up pot with water until it reaches the first line of your finger.
4th: Put the pot of rice to boil, then turn down to simmer.
Addendum: if you want you can pandan leaves aka pandanus aka daun pandan to raw rice and water to add fragrance and taste to your rice.

If you have a pot, rice, and water, try this method tonight. Let me know how it turns out.


Yep, that's the immersion method and it's the method that I use when I cook my two favorite rices, basmati and jasmine. I don't even use my finger. I just eyeball about an inch of water and I almost never have problems with it. Sometimes it needs to cook a little longer to get rid of all of the water though. When I cook my normal amount, it never takes any longer than 15 minutes or so. The only tricky part to me is cooking it until all of the water is gone and taking it off the heat before it starts to stick. Usually no problem at all.
sfekty
QUOTE (scotty1234 @ June 12, 2008 - 02:31 AM) *
do u know wut song they always played in season 4 with no vocals but was like happy music ha


Sorry Scotty, I don't know.
dogabone
QUOTE (bellsgpc @ June 4, 2008 - 11:20 PM) *
I am so mad. Lisa doesn't NOT belong in this final.

Well, now you've gone and made me get out the Grammar Hammer. What you've said is that Lisa belongs in the finale (double negative), and I don't think that's what you meant.
auntydale
I can't believe Lisa's gall in guilting Steph and Rich into "congratulating" her. Did she congratulate Richard in winning the challenge and the car? No.

I think that Steph and Antonia kept their personal feelings about Lisa hidden very well. Richard started to vent after they reached Puerto Rico. Neither of them said anything snarky about anyone else. Well, Antonia did make a few comments about Dale (about how he does only Asian and how he needed a diaper change after losing the Mise En Place quickfire). But Lisa said that he can't cook and his personality sucks a$$. At least Spike was gracious enough to shake Dale's hand and give him a hug, saying that they had their differences but Dale is talented. Lisa was never gracious and always snarky.
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