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YeeHaw!!! Time for some Jeff kickin' Ryan to the curb. Ryan, your 15 mins., all thanks to Jeff, are O V E R!!!!

Drinks anybody?

Save me a seat...I don't want to miss Ryan's farewell party, ungrateful brat!

Gotta go to J's baseball meeting...but I'll be back in time for the ass kickin'

Personally, I don't blame Ryan for capitalizing on his own newfound TV fame. After all, Jeff capitalized on Jenny and Chris's television venture. Seems the same to me. But to each his own. Love him or hate him, Jeff Lewis is fascinating to watch.

I'll take a turtletini!

When did Ryan become so smug???? I can't stand him!

Jeff, PLEASE lawyer up!! Ryan is a con artist. He's taken what he needed from you, now that you're on to him, he's tucking his tail in and running. And he's obviously trying to make you doubt your gut instinct. His body language tells it all. Do like he said, "cut" the negative people out of your life. He will only leach the life out of you. Funny how I used the word Leach.

Jeff,

Don't be blind. He used your name to direct business to his website and from there to his office phone. They didn't HAVE to ask for you to expect you to be the one they were dealing with. As someone else has said, Lawyer up! What Ryan has done constitutes fraud. Plain & Simple.

I dont see how Ryan was ever with Jeff at all, just for putting up with with Jeff he deserves something other than lip service.

Really? I think Jeff is very handsome...Ryan? Not so much!

Ryan hijacked Jeff's name and reputation to further his own career.....shame. When you direct hits on web site to further your own business...what more can be said. He is wise in business....if underhanded actions replace ethics. Hope he falls on his face with his expansion to Santa Barbara....that is where the "Big Boys and Girls" design for clients...lets see how he handles the competition.

I agree. If Jeff had a better head for business, he would have capitalized on the popularity of the show like Ryan did. He would also see the futility in flipping right now. Ryan has the right idea, but Jeff's having trouble adapting to an economy where only those who provide real and genuine value survive. It's hard to make money providing "fluff" right now. He can't sit back, provide a "vision", create to-do lists for his staff and subcontractors, and expect to roll in money. Sucks to be him.

He didn't capitalize on his own TV fame, he used "Flipping Out"'s fame to deceive people. At the very least it is unethical. In the seasons that have aired, not once do you see a completed job that RYAN has done, you see Jeff's projects that have included Ryan but not Ryan's alone. I don't believe anyone who logged onto the website was doing so to find Ryan.

And someone needs to refund his money causes he's looking like Mr. Ed with those teeth!

Ryan's head is too big for his body.....looks like Nancy Reagan!

I am glad Jeff made a smart business decision by cutting professional ties with Ryan. To sum up the reasons Ryan gave Jeff is "yes, I stabbed you in the back." Now that everyone who watches the show knows that Ryan is a conniving, dishonest, and greedy individual, no one would want to hire him to do any design jobs! He has shown that he is dishonest, and I certainly do not want to hire one of such unprincipled character! I'd go with Jeff, whom I know is upfront / honest and open (plus, his work is awesome!). In the end, what goes around comes around. Hope you move to Santa Barbara, Ryan. I can't wait to see Jeff's business flourish!

I was thinking the same thing....no one who sees the show, at least those who know what Ryan did and how he by omission lied, would use him to redecorate an outhouse let alone their living space. He was so unapologetic about the whole thing.

A reject OOMPA LOOMPA , from the Willie Wonka Choclate Factory.

I just love Jeff. OCD aside he is really a sweetheart.

loyalty is important to him. and He got betrayed by Ryan..i feel so bad for Jeff

About Frank: He is incredibly attractive, picked on terribly by Jeff and really good natured...does he like his own kind??? I need to know. Respond to me @ GrantDillon.com

i agree with you about Ryan betraying Jeff. I just tried to find the "flipping out" website and found info on Brown Design. Pretty sneaky if you ask me. If your firm is 'that" talented, dont resort to trickery to obtain clients. "Flipping Out" is Jeff Lewis and associates....NOT Brown Design!

by the way...lovin Zoila! I want a team Zoila t-shirt...Jeff make it happen!!

Jeff needs to be rid of Ryan. I am concerned about Ryan even raising a child. He is scary.

Could not agree more! About time Jeff saw this loser for what he is. After all Jeff did for him to be treated that way is awful. Try and get your own show Ryan and see if anyone cares about you. NOT!

I'm under the impression that Ryan and Jeff were once involved etc..don't know why I think that but if true..then deeper feelings make everything harder etc..still have history etc.. and there seemed to be such trust.

When trust is gone..that's it..especially for Jeff who is sensitive and I think very loyal as well. He is much more trustworthy than Ryan who is a snake..

I just love Jeff.. I could totally work for him..love his dry wit and his "everything my way" attitude..the guy knows his business and I respect that and his taste etc..plus he just cracks me up..!! Hope he can start flipping again soon..!!

Jeff and Ryan did have a personal relationship, then went into business together.

I didn't like Ryan last season. Remember the whole thing about selling one house and moving into the other. I thought Ryan was a PITA then. Jeff had to dangle the $3M house as an alternative for Ryan to do what was best for the business.

Jeff, if (by chance) you read here ... follow the sage advice given earlier: Get thee to an attorney!

Also, do not take any meeting with Ryan. Do not give him one more minute of camera time. If he calls, tell him that you will speak through lawyers since you can't believe a word that falls from that veneered mouth!

Just my 2 cents ... probably worth less than that!

(By the way, what's wrong with a little OCD ... where are my Playtex gloves, I haven't cleaned the boys' bathroom today!)

Im going to go out on a limb here and say hes done the attorney route, when you consider that punching up Jeff Lewis no longer takes you to Brown Design. Flipping Out simply takes you to show sites.

but yes, that was incredibly sleazy! redirect any search to end up at his page?! 'gee, if theyd asked for you....'

when Ryan said 'you should just cut me out of your life' it all hit home that everything hed done was underhanded and intentional.
Hopefully the old adage about any publicity is good publicity, isnt true in this case

Ryan has always come across as superior but I remember thinking, other than speaking spanish, what exactly does he do better than Jeff? Obviously, Ryan doesn't have the personality to care off his own show because for the first season and 1/2 I couldn't even remember his name. Oh, the Playtex gloves....under the sink rolled neatly in a plastic cup, next to the Clorox bleach and the Comet.

Xactly:

Great points. After reading your post, I think you're right: Mr. Lewis has probably already seen an attorney.

Also, when I heard the line 'you should ..." I thought he was being challenging. (Like he didn't think Jeff would do it)

Reading your take gives me a whole new perspective. Makes Ryan look even sleezier! Hope you're right about the adage proving false.

That's the only thing that sometimes pricks my conscience. "Am I contributing to mean/sleazy behavior by watching the show?" One of the reasons I don't tune to the Real Housewives franchise.

LOL!

I didn't remember his name until last night. I kept calling him "Byron."

Need my ears cleaned out.

BTW ... Just had to bundle E up and bring him to school to pick up Ralph. Yep, he booted all over his subtraction test!

Thank God for my Playtex gloves ... I'll be needing them alot in the next days. (I have a pair under the sink of each bathroom and the kitchen ... wouldn't want to spread bathroom germs to the kitchen ... )

I hear you. I dont watch Hell's Kitchen for that reason but more and more the networks are rewarding bad behaviour! look at the VH1 dating shows?!
Bravo promotes it with NY Prep and TRHW series.
on any reality show, the horrid witch always gets her own spin off!! even Omarosa from the Apprentice is still living her 15 minutes and shes got to be the most reprehensible human being alive!!!
as a nation these days, we give way too much lip service to poor behaviour: case in point-Kanye West!!!

as for Ryan: I always liked him and Im disappointed that he did what he did

A good business man Ryan? Really? How about a big fat NO!! How about you are a slimy snake in the grass! Shame on you!

I am so concerned for little Chloe, I just can't see Ryan being capable of taking care of her properly.

I couldn't help but notice that Ryan looked TOTALLY high on meth. He hardly blinked and his pupils were dilated, jaws clenched. Anyone else notice?

He knew exactly what he was doing when he set that website up to just filter all searchers to HIM. If he wasn't being sneaky or unethical, he would have said to Jeff, "Hey dude, I set this website up using FlippingOut and man we are getting lots of hits. Here's the list." Pond scum I tell you....

I didn't notice but I seldom do. My husband is a cop. I'll make him watch and see what he thinks. Hubby can spot someone under the influence from a mile away.

I dopn't think Ryan was on meth. His pupils are always that way, more so if they do the shot in the evening. He seems more of a pill man to me IF he does anything at all. He looked like a deer caught in the head lights!

OMG!!!!

It's worse than I thought!

Jeff - go to a lawyer. Better yet, have Bravo do it!

I just went to flippingout and was brought to a site that has a picture of one of the houses and says:

BRAVO's hit show "Flipping Out" takes viewers through the process of purchasing multi-million dollar homes in the Los Angeles area, engaging in full-scale residential development and design and then flipping them for a profit. In Season One, the restoration and sale of the Nottingham home was highlighted, while season two, showed the transformation of the Valley Oak home and also Ryan Brown's personal home, Park Oak. Here is a glimpse into the spectacular homes as seen on "Flipping Out."

<H1></H1>For more on our interior design and remodeling service, including Ryan Brown's design portfolio, please visit his Los Angeles based Interior Design Firm, Brown DesignBRAVO's hit show "Flipping Out" takes viewers through the process of purchasing multi-million dollar homes in the Los Angeles area, engaging in full-scale residential development and design and then flipping them for a profit. In Season One, the restoration and sale of the Nottingham home was highlighted, while season two, showed the transformation of the Valley Oak home and also Ryan Brown's personal home, Park Oak. Here is a glimpse into the spectacular homes as seen on "Flipping Out."

For more on our interior design and remodeling service, including Ryan Brown's design portfolio, please visit his Los Angeles based Interior Design Firm, Brown Design

Ryan needs to get real and get right. He did steal from Jeff. The web page directed people to his contact information only. If the web page had not included Jeff in it, then it would have been okay. He was deceptive and misled people to believe they were contact Jeff and Ryan.

Ryan taking all the credit in the magazine article was despicable.

Now I love Ryan. He is easy going, smart, and handsome. But he does need to admit he did Jeff wrong. There is no other way to look at it. He stole business from Jeff not just once with the web site, but twice with the magazine article. If he is so full of himself that he cannot see it, he needs to step back and take a deep look inside himself.

If I remember correctly, Ryan volunteered during the confrontation to have all of those filters removed.

He is still a sleezy snake in the grass. Jeff will be better off without him.

I guess I'm in the minority here but I think Jeff's being paranoid. I'm sure Ryan has capitalized on Jeff's name but I seriously doubt he's stealing any business from Jeff. Just like Jeff is firing ("breaking up") with his nutty clients, most normal people (who have money to spend on home rennovations) don't want to deal with a designer with OCD. It's just not worth it.

Maybe I'm too hard on Jeff because I see too much of myself in him. I think it's a lot easier for him to blame Ryan and to cut him out of his life than it is for him to admit that the reason his business is failing is his own gd fault.

Jeff even admitted that he missed the house flipping business because as a designer, you can't go around telling people "f_ck you" if you don't like something. I mean, sure, it's great to tell people to "f_ck off" with impunity but you can't go around doing that when you're working for a living.

So I finally figured out what everyone's talking about. Ryan took the domain flippingout.com and is using it to promote his business. I guess Jeff is furious that he didn't think of it first.

That said, there'd be no show without Jeff Lewis and for Ryan to take all the credit like that sure does seem ungrateful. I'm surprised Jeff had any difficulty cutting out Ryan. Of course, it's arguable that if he had been more diplomatic about the whole thing, he could share in the publicity a little more.

The thing to keep in mind though is that in 5 years, nobody will remember "Flipping Out" but they will remember Jeff Lewis' name. If you search for "Jeff Lewis", you find tons of links to Jeff's business. The only way to get to Ryan Design is to search for it by name or to search for "flipping out" and finding it that way.

Ryan is so deceptive… not only diverting business using Jeff’s name via website, but to focus the “exclusive” magazine article on himself was despicable. Ryan was so defensive when Jeff confronted him about these issues that he was willing to suggest Jeff cut him out of his life. How guilty he must be to want to run and hide. Ryan clearly stole from Jeff, and bit the hand that fed him. I don’t trust or believe anything Ryan said to Jeff. To top it off, insulting Jeff by calling him a crazy man and repeating it by telling Jeff he is crazy! What a creep. I hope we never have to hear from Ryan on Flipping Out again. Jeff should be glad to be rid of this backstabber. Ryan is not a smart businessman as he proclaims to be at all, no smart businessman would kill the golden goose. I sure wouldn’t want him on my team… always having to watch my back. Jeff seems to be very calm and thinks before he reacts, which in my opinion, is a smart businessman. Way to go Jeff… keeping the people around you honest and hard working, we need more of Jeff’s work ethics in this backstabbing world. Maybe your show is making a difference by showing people to be more ethical and respectable. Even though Ryan chose to do the opposite… he really didn’t learn too much from Jeff in the past ten plus years. Ryan must be a slow learner. I sure hope he regrets making a fool out of himself by showing how much he has used Jeff. I hope Jeff isn’t too broken up by Ryan, and should be glad Ryan banished himself from Jeff’s life, in his own words he wants out all together. Have a good life Ryan was Jeff’s best response. Ryan is such a user/looser.

Totally off the subject of Jeff vs Ryan - my biggest complaint on this episode is watching Jeff reading a magazine while driving. Good lord man - do you want to get into an accident or cause one? As bad if not worse than texting cause not only are you reading but you are flipping pages and getting totally upset so now he is even more distracted. Gosh I hope they read these blogs sometimes.

I think Ryan's being shady on this. He's stated something to the effect that no one ever called him and asked specifially for Jeff, well, clients are calling are assuming that Jeff and Ryan work together. They were still working on projects as late as last season.

Ryan should have been honest and told prospective clients that they aren't doing projects together anymore. I'm sure clients come in and talk to him about Jeff and probably most are clueless that Ryan's just keeping the work for himself. They saw Jeff doing design work last season and just think this is another aspect of his business.

Does anyone else wonder how some of Jeff Lewis' clients are surviving when no one works and everyone lives in multi-million dollar homes?

First they showed Jackie, the blonde woman who had the money problems and wanted the checks held. Now they're showing that weird couple who only tested Jeff out on their "lighting" pattern outside. Neither the husband or wife work and they live in a multi-million dollar home. I know she said she was a stipper, but I'm assuming that was years ago. California is an expensive place to live. And these people are all spending big money to have these homes remodeled.

Where's the money coming from?

I agree with you Brenda. Jeff needs to get an attorney on this one. I don't think you can use someone's name like Ryan did on the search engine to have it go directly to Ryan's website. Especially if you are on the same business and its done to get new customers. Ryan is a little creep and he did this because he's jelouse of Jeff. The problem is it will back fire on Ryan and he won't get much business. I wouldn't have someone in my house that would cheat their own partner. He didn't even put him the the magazine article. RYAN IS A SLIME BUCKET. LOOSE HIM JEFF AND GET AN ATTORNEY TO HELP YOU. I hope when Ryan moves they take him off the show.
Harmony
PS. Anyone else notice how Jeff has changed since he's been on tv? When we first saw Jeff had anyone spilt coffee in his car he would have had a melt down. I love the guy. Deep in side he's really tender hearted.

Is it just me or did anyone else see the episode awhile ago where a customer called Jeff because they had called Ryans office thinking they were talking to the office of Jeff AND Ryan and was told that there is a deposit required...They called Jeff directly and told him about it???? Remember? They were under the impression that they WERE contacting Ryan AND Jeff. Anyway, my point is...That is ANOTHER instance where they were misslead. They just tried to get ahold of Jeff personally when they were not happy with what they heard from Ryans office. Another point was that Jeff had not even heard about this customer. Red Flag?

Ryan cannot be trusted. His new blog explanations show clearly that he is not truthful. He can't even defend himself. His statement of " If you were trying to call the Honda dealership to buy a Honda and reached someone at Mercedes, wouldn’t you notice? " is downright laughable. It does not compare apples to apples and Ryan knows it. Ryan is arrogant and must think everyone else is not as smart as him. Fact is that most people are smarter than Ryan. Dump him, Jeff. Ryan is a Con Artist. Your dad was right.

btw, ryan's husband is butt ugly. Too bad he couldn't get along with Jeff, but Jeff deserves much, MUCH better.

I've been watching the reruns and I don't remember seeing that but I'm sure that Jeff has had someone call to find out what was said. He seems like a very smart guy and I'm sure he has checked. As far as Ryan, unless Bravo has a non sue clause in their contract (and I'm pretty sure that Jeff and Ryan never had a contract with a "right to compete" clause or any partnership agreement for that matter), I believe that Jeff needs to get his attorney involved. You cannot use someone's name like Ryan has unless the link gives you a choice of both Ryan or Jeff and let's you choose. Ryan could loose everything he has if he keeps it up. He's not a very smart man to think he can get away with what he has done.

What Ryan did; having a search for Jeff's name and it going to Ryan's website is a crime. Not in the same way you call the police to help but its a Civil matter and Ryan needs to be careful. This is not about control. If you work with a large company and have a contract they usually have a clause that says if you stop working for us you cannot compete with us opening the same type business for 1, 2 or 3 years after leaving. This is standard in the business world. it protects companies from hiring people who steal the ideas and then go open their own company. This is what Jeff did. Although they probably had no contract, using Jeff'sname on a search engine to have it go to Ryan's site is an actionable issue.

oh please, jeff is just a tired, old, bxitchy queen who gets his thrills making everyone around him as miserable as he is. He will get his someday. I only hope the camera's are rolling when he does.

Jeff is Jeff...and the more I see him the more I like him. What Ryan did was low. You can see he lies and has no remorse. Jeff will do fine without him, but I totally understand how sad he feels about ending the relationship. Jeff does not need someone like that in his life, yet in a business arrangement.