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I think part of it stems from Alexandra picking one particular swimsuit in on particular collection, and pointing to that as her inspiration. It seems less like inspiration, and more like recycling or ripping it off completely. For example, if I was going to make a wedding cake, and I pointed to a particular one in a magazine and said I made this based on this idea, but instead of making it round, I made it square, and instead of white icing, I went for a light blue. Does that make it my cake, or someone else's? On the other hand, if I take the round cake use ribbon, flowers and other decorations in such a manner that it is my style, yet something vaguely remniscent of someone else's, I can truly call this my cake design. Fashion is the same way.
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"P.S. Did anyone notice that Austin borrowed and wore Wendy's electric blue eye shadow during the runway competition in tonight's bathing suit episode? Let's have a vote of who looks better with that blue eye shadow ? Austin, Wendy"
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this comment had me rolling. I did notice austin's shadow, but it looked so much better on him I didn't realize it was the same shade!
I think if your make-up looks better on the drag queen than it does on you, perhaps you should leave it alone.....!!
"P.S. Did anyone notice that Austin borrowed and wore Wendy's electric blue eye shadow during the runway competition in tonight's bathing suit episode? Let's have a vote of who looks better with that blue eye shadow ? Austin, Wendy"
HA!
this comment had me rolling. I did notice austin's shadow, but it looked so much better on him I didn't realize it was the same shade!
I think if your make-up looks better on the drag queen than it does on you, perhaps you should leave it alone.....!!
.....Alexandra forgot that in a male-dominated society where females are still objects, she has to use her looks to also get ahead.....how many think she would still be on the show if she had an on-camera relationship with Robert or had an orgy with the sleazy news guy and her model?
My take on the swimsuit episode:
First, absolutely ridiculous that they didn't get the suits wet. Especially when the judges questioned whether some of the designs would hold up if soaked. Plus which I want to see which suits require repositioning as the model exits the pool - you know that 'fingers under the suit at the buttocks you see all the time? THAT would have shown how well the things were constructed.
(IMO) the best suit was Kevins. His was the only even mildly innovative one and is flattering to the wearer. Austin's suit could time travel back to 1953 and be worn by Esther Williams. The problem with Wendy's suit, outside of not being finished, is that it's a common design (although the color was a great choice for Martinique). Robert's suit was blah, not evening wear, and not well fitting. Kara's suit had a cute coverup but didn't fulfill the challenge goal of evening wear. Nora's even more blah & poorer fitting than Robert's. Jay's suit was bondage - not imaginative bondage, just uncomfortable looking bondage. The cut of it was awful. The straps & metal bits just smirked, "Aren't I shocking?" - yeah if you lived in Podunk Idaho & it was the '80s. And the worst part is that it wasn't flattering, even to the extremely skinny model that wore it. Jay's 'rock star' costume was a bit retro too (except the skirt) but it was also very flattering to the wearer. This time he didn't pull it off and what a disappointment because he is my fav.
First, absolutely ridiculous that they didn't get the suits wet. Especially when the judges questioned whether some of the designs would hold up if soaked. Plus which I want to see which suits require repositioning as the model exits the pool - you know that 'fingers under the suit at the buttocks you see all the time? THAT would have shown how well the things were constructed.
(IMO) the best suit was Kevins. His was the only even mildly innovative one and is flattering to the wearer. Austin's suit could time travel back to 1953 and be worn by Esther Williams. The problem with Wendy's suit, outside of not being finished, is that it's a common design (although the color was a great choice for Martinique). Robert's suit was blah, not evening wear, and not well fitting. Kara's suit had a cute coverup but didn't fulfill the challenge goal of evening wear. Nora's even more blah & poorer fitting than Robert's. Jay's suit was bondage - not imaginative bondage, just uncomfortable looking bondage. The cut of it was awful. The straps & metal bits just smirked, "Aren't I shocking?" - yeah if you lived in Podunk Idaho & it was the '80s. And the worst part is that it wasn't flattering, even to the extremely skinny model that wore it. Jay's 'rock star' costume was a bit retro too (except the skirt) but it was also very flattering to the wearer. This time he didn't pull it off and what a disappointment because he is my fav.
....JOKE....THE INSPIRATION POLICE HAVE DECIDED THAT PICASSO WILL NO LONGER BE CONSIDERED A SERIOUS ARTIST...MANY OF HIS WORKS WERE BASED ON AFRICAN ART....WE ARE ALSO LOOKING INTO MATISSE WHO ALSO WAS INSPIRED BY ART FROM AFRICA....YVES SAINT LAURENT IS CURRENTLY UNDER INVESTIGATION ALSO.....COCO CHANEL FOR HER MILITARY INSPIRED CLOTHING WILL BE TAKEN OFF THE LIST OF SIGNIFICANT FASHION DESIGNERS ( YOU NAUGHTY GIRL , COCO) ....OH IF YOU ARE JAY AND YOU ADMITTED LAST WEEK ALONG WITH YOUR CLIEN/MODEL TO BEING INSPIRED BY HELMUT LANG AND CALVIN KLEIN PLEASE IGNORE THIS, IT DOESN'T APPLY TO YOU......( LAUGH )..... what does everyone think?.....last night was hilarious and so unbalanced, none of the judges were even fashion designers.......
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Hi, From what I gather Robert is 28 and I think he may be gay? I say this because I watch little things in the episodes like when he wore the face mask or how in the 2 episode he carried a purse like backpack... I think he is wonderful though but I wonder is he gay or maybe bi?
He is gorgeous though even if he is.....I have never been hooked to a reality show until now and it's partly because of Robert. Does he have a website or something? Or can someone link some pics of him? That would be great.
.....he's got big time love handles if you like that ( smile ).....he said he was married in and moved back to ny from Russia.....
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Hi, Nirvanagrrl! I think you are so right on. I love Robert - the man, the designer, and his sexy smile. Austin is wonderful. I love Jay too. If he were to host a party, much of the world would come. However, I think Kara Saun will probably win the grand prize. She just has the total package - talent, experience, training, and personality.
LOL I would definately go to a party thrown by Jay. You are correct on all accounts. I really love Kara Saun's work. She's so consistent and a very nice person too. And of course I LOVE Robert. He's sexy and what's even sexier is creativity and ambition,so he is on fire to me,lol. His smile is just damn,lol.
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"First, absolutely ridiculous that they didn't get the suits wet. Especially when the judges questioned whether some of the designs would hold up if soaked. Plus which I want to see which suits require repositioning as the model exits the pool - you know that 'fingers under the suit at the buttocks you see all the time? THAT would have shown how well the things were constructed."
I agree with you. some suits are designed for the runway and sunning and NOT for swimming. And if that was the challenge, fine.
But that's not what was described, so i'm with you.
if these suits were suppsoed to be functional, let's see 'em function.....
of course, if kevin's suit made it through a whole night out with crazy morgan and was still hangign together, i'm so impressed I don't need to see it wet.
I cannot imagine why everybody keeps putting up with that nutjob. i don't think she's all that on the runway; not enough to put up with her lunacy, anyway.
i hope they dump her next week..........
"First, absolutely ridiculous that they didn't get the suits wet. Especially when the judges questioned whether some of the designs would hold up if soaked. Plus which I want to see which suits require repositioning as the model exits the pool - you know that 'fingers under the suit at the buttocks you see all the time? THAT would have shown how well the things were constructed."
I agree with you. some suits are designed for the runway and sunning and NOT for swimming. And if that was the challenge, fine.
But that's not what was described, so i'm with you.
if these suits were suppsoed to be functional, let's see 'em function.....
of course, if kevin's suit made it through a whole night out with crazy morgan and was still hangign together, i'm so impressed I don't need to see it wet.
I cannot imagine why everybody keeps putting up with that nutjob. i don't think she's all that on the runway; not enough to put up with her lunacy, anyway.
i hope they dump her next week..........
...she said her agency dumped her weeks ago....does anyone know how she stayed on the show .....I think the INSPIRATION POLICE are involved ( smile ) ....this episode was a low point in the show....notice how the party give by Elle and Elle was smart enough to have nothing to do with the night of sexual teasing and flirting that was filmed.....what do you think?
.....unfortunately females still have to play a lot of silly male games in the fashion world and in other areas of life too.....we need 20000 more
Donna Karan's and Missoni sisters....Alexandra's lack of flirting with males got her booted....HOW MANY THINK SHE WOULD STILL BE ON THE SHOW IF SHE HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH ROBERT OR HAD SPENT THE NIGHT WITH THE SLEAZY GUY FROM THE PAPER?
Donna Karan's and Missoni sisters....Alexandra's lack of flirting with males got her booted....HOW MANY THINK SHE WOULD STILL BE ON THE SHOW IF SHE HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH ROBERT OR HAD SPENT THE NIGHT WITH THE SLEAZY GUY FROM THE PAPER?
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Yep, Robert is straight.
And there's nothing wrong with his long hair. Yeah, he's a nice male specimen. As for peeing sitted, he's not the only guy doing that.
Well, what I think was funny, is that after all the complaints on this board about not seeing Robert enough without his tee-shirt, last night he was without it most of the time !!! I was like "well, go dress up now, guy !". Not that it disturbs me, but I still think the most interesting thing in this show is seeing the design process and outcome more that whoever looks good without tee-shirt.
I actually love the show. I stated in another post that I have never been addicted to a reality show...until now. Robert's sexiness helps of course,but the premise of the show where the people competing are actually talented,that's wonderful. I love watching the process(or the snippets they show) of the designers making their clothing.
As far as Robert and his t-shirt,lol,I didn't feel like "oh god,go put back on your clothes now". A little chunk is ok;I just was not feeling those "man panties" he had on in one of the shots of him getting dressed. Love the long hair,he can pee anyway he wants as far as I'm concerned,and yes I'm glad he's straight but even if he wasn't I would still love to look at him.
HOW MANY THINK SHE WOULD STILL BE ON THE SHOW IF SHE HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH ROBERT OR HAD SPENT THE NIGHT WITH THE SLEAZY GUY FROM THE PAPER?
One vote from me! And how many are tired of the misleading promos? Someone somewhere on this site said that they expected more of Bravo. I second that emotion as well.
In case Bravo big brother is watching- MORE FASHION, LESS CHEAP THEATRICS PLEASE!
One vote from me! And how many are tired of the misleading promos? Someone somewhere on this site said that they expected more of Bravo. I second that emotion as well.
In case Bravo big brother is watching- MORE FASHION, LESS CHEAP THEATRICS PLEASE!
I am really in love with this show. Does anyone think or know if it will come out on DVD? I would definately buy it if it did.
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I cannot imagine why everybody keeps putting up with that nutjob. i don't think she's all that on the runway; not enough to put up with her lunacy, anyway.
i hope they dump her next week..........
Well, I kind of agree with you about Morgan. She is consistently a problem with the irresponisbility & emotional lability. However (and maybe it's only my perception) she does seem to have some kind of good effect on at least some of the designers.
Look at Kevin. It seemed as though he felt that whatever extroverted/crazy vibe she brought to the swimsuit was extremely valuable. How many times did he refer to it?
Also, Jay. Granted, he despaired and spewed angst over her requests on the wedding dress. But then he despairs and spews angst over all the challenges that he doesn't think are within his (narrow) rock & roll aesthetic. And what happens? He produces the best dress of that show. Morgan, while resembling a 6 year old with ADD, actually seemed to listen to him, agree to (at least some) changes he wanted to make, and admit in the end that his interpretation of her ideas were great. Not exactly what we saw from Olga or Melissa.
I'm not saying you're wrong about the need to dump Morgan. Just that whatever effect she has on the designers, even if it's only within their perceptions, is valuable to them.
Okay, so does anyone else think Kevin has a wish? I mean, passive agressive or not, I honestly don't think he would have let Morgan romp around the city in his outfit if he really thought that he had a chance of winning. As much as I like Kevin as I like Kevin I don't think Project Runway is really his thing and I think Wendy's probably eliminated next week and he could beat out Robert in the challenge after that, but I don't think he would make it into the top 3 against Kara, Jay, and Austin. Even if he comes up with a better outfit I still don't think the judges would be willing to toss a KJA for him.
I completely agree that Kara Austin and Jay are the top three-- who's with me?
Also - did anyone else find austin's hair extremely hilarious-- what did the loreal people do to him?
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I completely agree that Kara Austin and Jay are the top three-- who's with me?
I wholeheartedly agree.
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I think part of it stems from Alexandra picking one particular swimsuit in on particular collection, and pointing to that as her inspiration. It seems less like inspiration, and more like recycling or ripping it off completely. For example, if I was going to make a wedding cake, and I pointed to a particular one in a magazine and said I made this based on this idea, but instead of making it round, I made it square, and instead of white icing, I went for a light blue. Does that make it my cake, or someone else's? On the other hand, if I take the round cake use ribbon, flowers and other decorations in such a manner that it is my style, yet something vaguely remniscent of someone else's, I can truly call this my cake design. Fashion is the same way.
I completely agree. I think there is a definite line between "inspired by" and ripped off. (It's a fine line at times, but a definite one nonetheless.) I have liked Alexandra's work up until this episode, but I think this design was just too lacking in originality for the judges to overlook it.
Jay's wedding dress, on the other hand, was truly his own. You could see tthe sources from which he drew his inspiration, but the garment itself was truly an original (as is Jay himself).
I looked in my DDD-book (Designers' Dictionary for Dummies) and see what I have found:
confession of stealing - announcing an inspiration by another designer's work.
Nevertheless, I think that her "inspiration" was about the material only. Alexandra made a mistake talking about it, most of the other designs were so flat!
What about Wendy? Who designed her thong? This was the real STEALING!
confession of stealing - announcing an inspiration by another designer's work.
Nevertheless, I think that her "inspiration" was about the material only. Alexandra made a mistake talking about it, most of the other designs were so flat!
What about Wendy? Who designed her thong? This was the real STEALING!
Even though she's not my personal favourite (that's not to say I don't think she's not talented), I want Kara to win. I love Austin and Jay, and I think a mentorship with Banana Republic would just not suit them at all. Of all the designers on the show, they are the two with the most clearly established styles. Not only would Banana have their hands full with either of them, but it would stifle their personal creativity, which would just suck. For that reason, and becuase she's so professional, I'll be astounded if Kara doesn't win. And she will deserve it.
I agree completely with this. I think that Jay and Austin would be better off making the top three and then NOT winning. The real prize for the two of them would be showing their lines during fashion week. They'll get recognized and go from there. I cannot see either of them being happy or successful designing for Banana republic.
I agree completely with this. I think that Jay and Austin would be better off making the top three and then NOT winning. The real prize for the two of them would be showing their lines during fashion week. They'll get recognized and go from there. I cannot see either of them being happy or successful designing for Banana republic.
My top three are Jay, Kara, and Austin. Both Jay and Kara have consistantly created great designs. I just happen to like Jay more because I love the rocker style. The thing with Austin is he tends to do things over the top and it's a hit and miss sometimes. It's seemed like every other one was stunning, then the other ones were kind of... off. And I agree with Diva, it would really make sense if Kara won. I'd hate to see Jay and Austin lose their awesome creativity.
I was kind of glad to see Alexandra leave, there wasn't anything very unique. A lot of it was similar to fashions already on the runway, no real originality. Plus the bottom of the models breast was hanging out... not exactly a great fit.
I was kind of glad to see Alexandra leave, there wasn't anything very unique. A lot of it was similar to fashions already on the runway, no real originality. Plus the bottom of the models breast was hanging out... not exactly a great fit.
I am so sorry for all of you who think that this show is about talent! Just think for an answer of this question: Who is the one among judges who can see it?
Now based on the preferences and the comments of the judges, I make the following prediction:
The final four are: Wendy, Austin, Kara, and Jay.
Jay will be the last to go ...
And the winner is WENDY - she is such a match for Banana Republic!
Arguments:
1. Both Austin and Wendy were saved in some of the episodes;
2. Kara won two times and everybody is so happy with her always similar designs;
3. Jay makes the show interesting but he is not a Banana R.;
4. Wendy missed the "splash" completely but there were a discussion with Richard Johnson to consider her for a winner.
Now based on the preferences and the comments of the judges, I make the following prediction:
The final four are: Wendy, Austin, Kara, and Jay.
Jay will be the last to go ...
And the winner is WENDY - she is such a match for Banana Republic!
Arguments:
1. Both Austin and Wendy were saved in some of the episodes;
2. Kara won two times and everybody is so happy with her always similar designs;
3. Jay makes the show interesting but he is not a Banana R.;
4. Wendy missed the "splash" completely but there were a discussion with Richard Johnson to consider her for a winner.
Star would be good at making clothes for barbie dolls.
I'm not a fan of Robert's designs, and the "sports car" thing is irritating but I thought it was cool how the first thing he did after being told he was still in was go right over to Star and give her a hug. I don't remember anyone else doing anything like that when they found out they were still in and the other person lost. Or maybe he was just trying to cop a feel. I don't know.
Kara consistently makes attractive, wearable clothes and I like her because she seems like the most down to earth person on the show, but I don't see her winning because she doesn't take risks with her designs. She sticks with what she knows people will want to wear. Not that theres anything wrong with that, but I think the show's producers would want someone a little more dynamic to win.
Even if Austin didn't win this show, I think he's enough of a character to start his own show. I could totally see him with his own interior desion show on Discovery or the learning channel or something. Or the style network (if thats actually a channel and not something I just made up in my head). He seems made for television.
Does Melissa's face sometimes make her look a little bit like a drag queen or am I just a jerk? There was a picture of her on this website for the preview of episode six and I really thought that it was a man until I saw the show and realized it was her.
Alot of people said that Wendy's bathing suit looked more like a dress... I don't know, maybe I'm old fashioned but it looked like a bathing suit to me. A very modest bathing suit, but thats cool. All you ever see any more are thongs and little triangle tops, its refreshing to have some variety. Kevin's design was a little too much clothes for a bathing suit I thought. It looked like it would be uncomfortable to actually swim in.
I think I liked Jay's bathing suit the best. I would so rock that with an inner tube and a big snorkel mask. SEXY!!
okay I just went back and looked again (really slow at work right now...) Wendy's design does look like a dress. A really really small dress though. I think she may have invented the world's first "bathing dress". God I'm clever...
I'm not a fan of Robert's designs, and the "sports car" thing is irritating but I thought it was cool how the first thing he did after being told he was still in was go right over to Star and give her a hug. I don't remember anyone else doing anything like that when they found out they were still in and the other person lost. Or maybe he was just trying to cop a feel. I don't know.
Kara consistently makes attractive, wearable clothes and I like her because she seems like the most down to earth person on the show, but I don't see her winning because she doesn't take risks with her designs. She sticks with what she knows people will want to wear. Not that theres anything wrong with that, but I think the show's producers would want someone a little more dynamic to win.
Even if Austin didn't win this show, I think he's enough of a character to start his own show. I could totally see him with his own interior desion show on Discovery or the learning channel or something. Or the style network (if thats actually a channel and not something I just made up in my head). He seems made for television.
Does Melissa's face sometimes make her look a little bit like a drag queen or am I just a jerk? There was a picture of her on this website for the preview of episode six and I really thought that it was a man until I saw the show and realized it was her.
Alot of people said that Wendy's bathing suit looked more like a dress... I don't know, maybe I'm old fashioned but it looked like a bathing suit to me. A very modest bathing suit, but thats cool. All you ever see any more are thongs and little triangle tops, its refreshing to have some variety. Kevin's design was a little too much clothes for a bathing suit I thought. It looked like it would be uncomfortable to actually swim in.
I think I liked Jay's bathing suit the best. I would so rock that with an inner tube and a big snorkel mask. SEXY!!
okay I just went back and looked again (really slow at work right now...) Wendy's design does look like a dress. A really really small dress though. I think she may have invented the world's first "bathing dress". God I'm clever...
possible but she wins in the long run.
I was so disappointed that Alexandra was out. I loved her style and wanted to see more. It wasn't her best design (mostly too small for the model) but still. I think she was great and an exceptional 22 yr old. Yeah, I agree that many of the designs were pretty weak or unfinished this week but they did only have 5 hours. I think others have had several poor designs, she only had one and it wasnt as bad as many others! And I really didn't think most of the suits could actually be used to swim in.
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.....unfortunately females still have to play a lot of silly male games in the fashion world and in other areas of life too.....we need 20000 more
Donna Karan's and Missoni sisters....Alexandra's lack of flirting with males got her booted....HOW MANY THINK SHE WOULD STILL BE ON THE SHOW IF SHE HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH ROBERT OR HAD SPENT THE NIGHT WITH THE SLEAZY GUY FROM THE PAPER?
You're probably on the right track, yet I don't think that's necessarily it. Alexandra kept too much of a low profile, and for a reality tv producer you don't want that. Also, I can see why they would boot her from the last couple episodes. Don't think I have anything against Alexandra, I love her cute little low profile role, but...
Ruffles are great. The first 10 times.
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I completely agree that Kara Austin and Jay are the top three-- who's with me?
Me!
I don't think you can rule out Kevin. He is the sleeper in my opinion.
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And the winner is WENDY - she is such a match for Banana Republic!
The more I see of this show, the more I have to agree with you. I think Wendy "the longshot" just might be the winner of this show!!
hmmm. . . .i don't even necessarily mind wendy but i don't think that she should be the winner either~sometimes her designs come off as though she's trying too hard and sometimes they're just simply boring. . . .i love robert~incredibly sexy even with those man panties(should've been black boxer briefs but with that gorgeous smile all is forgiven! and i must say i'm relieved that he is indeed straight even if he's been crushing on alexandra), but he's definately lacking as well unfortunately. . . .i love jay and his designs, but i don't think in the end they're going to go for him since the prize is to work with br and all(his dress, particularly the top for that challenge was beautiful with incredible attention to detail though)~he has so much talent though i'm sure he'll be fine, as does kevin~and i kinda like his voice even if sometimes with the way he raises his eyes it can look kinda creepy there's something kinda sexy in that ok, ok, so i know she plays it "safe" but her designs are always so well done and they're always beautiful in a nice and simple way which is why i think that kara will and probably should win. if it was just a general "best designer" competition, jay and kara would be my picks, but to work for banana republic, i'm going to have to say it's kara. though i'd still love for either of them to design something for me, so maybe i should hope that they're on their own still? well i'm sure they won't be regardless, best of luck to them all
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I was so disappointed that Alexandra was out. I loved her style and wanted to see more. It wasn't her best design (mostly too small for the model) but still. I think she was great and an exceptional 22 yr old. Yeah, I agree that many of the designs were pretty weak or unfinished this week but they did only have 5 hours. I think others have had several poor designs, she only had one and it wasnt as bad as many others! And I really didn't think most of the suits could actually be used to swim in.
In defense of Alexandra's bikini design, her design is currently in the top three for the auction bid for the third highest amount. Let's face it, a bikini does not have alot of fabric to work with, yet her design has a lot going on for interest. There are alot of embellishments, braids, strings, beads, and pattern in a subtle way. I am also surprised that there is such a big deal made about the size of her suit. Swim wear fashions in Europe, South America wouldn't even question her design. I believe that the show's visual and verbal editing led viewers to think and justify her removal from the show.
P.S. thank yous for the writer who described Wendy's lack of ability to design a thong as breath taking.
They do deserve each other, considering her dumb-ass capelet dress won their particular challenge. Heaven forbid if either Austin or Jay became apprentices at that shop...they might as well be bookkeepers. (No offense, bookkeepers...I just love typing that word.)
You are awesome! I seriously just spent a bit of time contemplating the same thing. My thinking was- the three that make it are not pictured in the bars but I clicked refresh until I realized that I was just being a big nerd. So I tried to think of how they may set that up as some sort of insider "joke". But wow- you took it to the next level! Props for being analytical! I'm rooting for prediction 2!
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I sense a pattern in the eliminations, and I am willing to predict the next people eliminated.
The pattern has to do with the Project Runway bars at the top of the page. There are 5 random bars, where 4 contain images of 3 contestants and Heidi with that ugly hairdo. The groups are:
Group 1: Daniel, Vanessa, Kevin
Group 2: Mario, Nora, Jay
Group 3: Kara, Alexandra, Starr
Group 4: Robert, Wendy, Austin
The first contestant eliminated was Daniel in Group 1. Next was Mario in Group 2. Next was Starr in Group 3. Then it was Vanessa in Group 1, followed by Nora in Group 2 and Alexandra in Group 3. This leaves one contestant in each of the first 3 groups (in linear fashion as well), and all 3 contestants in Group 4.
As I see it, there are three predictions I can make at this point:
Prediction 1: Kevin goes next week, followed by Jay (NOOOOOO!) and Kara (nooo!). The Final Three at Fashion Week are Austin (yes!), Wendy (YAY!), and Robert (blah!)
Prediction 2: The pattern is topsy-turvied and the next 3 eliminateds are all the Group 4'ers. This means Kara, Jay, and Kevin are the Final 3, which does make more sense to me.
Prediction 3: It's all just a crazy coincidence, and the next eliminations have nothing to do with the pattern.
Also, is it wrong to be a straight, fashion-challenged, math-major frat boy and still watch this show? I hope not.
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I was so disappointed that Alexandra was out. I loved her style and wanted to see more. It wasn't her best design (mostly too small for the model) but still. I think she was great and an exceptional 22 yr old. Yeah, I agree that many of the designs were pretty weak or unfinished this week but they did only have 5 hours. I think others have had several poor designs, she only had one and it wasnt as bad as many others! And I really didn't think most of the suits could actually be used to swim in.
In defense of Alexandra's bikini design, her design is currently in the top three for the auction bid for the third highest amount. Let's face it, a bikini does not have alot of fabric to work with, yet her design has a lot going on for interest. There are alot of embellishments, braids, strings, beads, and pattern in a subtle way. I am also surprised that there is such a big deal made about the size of her suit. Swim wear fashions in Europe, South America wouldn't even question her design. I believe that the show's visual and verbal editing led viewers to think and justify her removal from the show.
P.S. thank yous for the writer who described Wendy's lack of ability to design a thong as breath taking.
actually there was a huge wrap/skirt thing that was with alexandras swimsuit.
also, the reason why she was eliminated didnt have much to do with the size, but originality. she just copied other work (missoni and michael kors i believe).
I'm into stats. For fun I've calculated the average Runway Rating for each remaining designer thru Episode 6. Here are the results:
Kara: 4.12
Jay: 3.85
Austin: 3.65
Wendy: 2.96
Kevin: 2.85
Robert: 2.70
I've also calculated each desinger's average deviation from above score. For those of you who don't know what that means, it's bascially an idication of consistency. The lower the number, the more the consistency:
Kara: 0.304
Kevin: 0.367
Jay: 0.433
Wendy: 0.568
Austin: 0.833
Robert: 0.840
Consistency is not always good - especially if you're consistently bad. In Kara's case it's good because she had the highest average Runway Rating and the best consistency score. In Kevin's case it's bad, because he has the second lowest average Runway Rating and the second best consistency score.
... for whatever it's worth ...
Kara: 4.12
Jay: 3.85
Austin: 3.65
Wendy: 2.96
Kevin: 2.85
Robert: 2.70
I've also calculated each desinger's average deviation from above score. For those of you who don't know what that means, it's bascially an idication of consistency. The lower the number, the more the consistency:
Kara: 0.304
Kevin: 0.367
Jay: 0.433
Wendy: 0.568
Austin: 0.833
Robert: 0.840
Consistency is not always good - especially if you're consistently bad. In Kara's case it's good because she had the highest average Runway Rating and the best consistency score. In Kevin's case it's bad, because he has the second lowest average Runway Rating and the second best consistency score.
... for whatever it's worth ...
Quote:..and many men would love Wendy's trend of thong-less swimsuits and ribbon and balloon partywear!
They do deserve each other, considering her dumb-ass capelet dress won their particular challenge. Heaven forbid if either Austin or Jay became apprentices at that shop...they might as well be bookkeepers. (No offense, bookkeepers...I just love typing that word.)
Seriously, both Jay and Austin could adapt and survive the Bad Banana.. mutually beneficial mix there.. for a time.. (Jay could design a banana bandana)
..and $100,000.-, $100,000.- (I just love typing $100,000.-)
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that new all that. ;__; sadly fav one austin 3 place in your poll. I like him the best. kara cool too. i do in joy austin fashion designs. wendy is not very good. i hope she does not win. go austin go. but if austin does not win it k. kara make great designer fo banana. jay really look se him design for hottopic. robert would make great male modled he very handsome.
that new all that. ;__; sadly fav one austin 3 place in your poll. I like him the best. kara cool too. i do in joy austin fashion designs. wendy is not very good. i hope she does not win. go austin go. but if austin does not win it k. kara make great designer fo banana. jay really look se him design for hottopic. robert would make great male modled he very handsome.
That's awesome, jessci. But since they are viewer scores, I wonder how much we're tapping into viewer sentiment rather than the sentiment of the judges.
It's totally viewer sentiment - and not even representative of all viewers at that - in that it's a non-random sampling of those motivated to vote.
I'm gonna do a similar compilation of numbers for the models and post it on the Models thread. That mite make even less sense because you could argue that the models have little to do with the ratings of the designs they wear ... or do they? If I were a designer and I saw that Model A gets consistently high ratings and Model B gets consistently low ones - that would factor into my selection decision.
I'm gonna do a similar compilation of numbers for the models and post it on the Models thread. That mite make even less sense because you could argue that the models have little to do with the ratings of the designs they wear ... or do they? If I were a designer and I saw that Model A gets consistently high ratings and Model B gets consistently low ones - that would factor into my selection decision.
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Thank yous for the writer who described Wendy's lack of ability to design a thong as breath taking.
I can't believe more people aren't astounded by that. Isn't part of making the outfit actually MAKING the outfit? She said she didn't know how to make a thong...so why did she try? No one else did. It just doesn't make sense to me why the judges didn't give her a harder time, especially since she's never been on the strong side of the designer spectrum. I don't much care for Alexandra, but failing to make part your design is a bigger flaw than imitating another designer- at least that other designer made a whole outfit!
Also, haven't we seen this before? Wendy bought so few materials in episode one, that poor Josiane had to wear her underwear as part of the outfit because all Wendy made for a skirt was a bunch of ribbon and some balloons. I hope the judges noticed that.
Just my opinion re: all the comments about people being a match for (or not, as the case may be) banana republic.
A mentorship from a design house does not mean the design house indoctrinates you. You can be a "punk" designer (whatever that means, not that I think hair gel qualifies you) and still work for yves st. laurent. What you would learn while working with a design house _ just about the business _ would be invaluable. If you are a good designer, you can design anything for anyone. realistically, people don't walk out of design school and set up shop on their own. they have to get some experience and make a name, and that usually requires working for someone else.
I guess what I'm saying is, I'm not making any assumptions based on whose style would match with BR. The point is for the winner to launch their own line. If they "match" BR, and their stuff looks like BR, what's the point of their having their own line?
A mentorship from a design house does not mean the design house indoctrinates you. You can be a "punk" designer (whatever that means, not that I think hair gel qualifies you) and still work for yves st. laurent. What you would learn while working with a design house _ just about the business _ would be invaluable. If you are a good designer, you can design anything for anyone. realistically, people don't walk out of design school and set up shop on their own. they have to get some experience and make a name, and that usually requires working for someone else.
I guess what I'm saying is, I'm not making any assumptions based on whose style would match with BR. The point is for the winner to launch their own line. If they "match" BR, and their stuff looks like BR, what's the point of their having their own line?
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"I can't believe more people aren't astounded by that. Isn't part of making the outfit actually MAKING the outfit? She said she didn't know how to make a thong...so why did she try? No one else did. It just doesn't make sense to me why the judges didn't give her a harder time, especially since she's never been on the strong side of the designer spectrum. I don't much care for Alexandra, but failing to make part your design is a bigger flaw than imitating another designer- at least that other designer made a whole outfit!
Also, haven't we seen this before? Wendy bought so few materials in episode one, that poor Josiane had to wear her underwear as part of the outfit because all Wendy made for a skirt was a bunch of ribbon and some balloons. I hope the judges noticed that."
HA!
I've been thinking the same thing. It's like we are back to the "unfinished" Wendy designs.
Not really sure why designing a thong was a problem. fit is critical in making a thong, but not design. And it appeared that she had some time to fit it on Martinique.....
we're not talking high difficulty here.
"I can't believe more people aren't astounded by that. Isn't part of making the outfit actually MAKING the outfit? She said she didn't know how to make a thong...so why did she try? No one else did. It just doesn't make sense to me why the judges didn't give her a harder time, especially since she's never been on the strong side of the designer spectrum. I don't much care for Alexandra, but failing to make part your design is a bigger flaw than imitating another designer- at least that other designer made a whole outfit!
Also, haven't we seen this before? Wendy bought so few materials in episode one, that poor Josiane had to wear her underwear as part of the outfit because all Wendy made for a skirt was a bunch of ribbon and some balloons. I hope the judges noticed that."
HA!
I've been thinking the same thing. It's like we are back to the "unfinished" Wendy designs.
Not really sure why designing a thong was a problem. fit is critical in making a thong, but not design. And it appeared that she had some time to fit it on Martinique.....
we're not talking high difficulty here.
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HA!
I've been thinking the same thing. It's like we are back to the "unfinished" Wendy designs.
Not really sure why designing a thong was a problem. fit is critical in making a thong, but not design. And it appeared that she had some time to fit it on Martinique.....
we're not talking high difficulty here.
I can't help but wonder why a thong was necessary in the first place, considering the design of the suit. Regular bathing suit bottoms would have worked beautifully, and she may have had less problems in making such a thing!!
I agree with you guys about alexandra.
i think it goes back to her designing clothes for herself. she designs what she likes to wear. I think you have to be more flexible and creative than that if you are going to ask other people to wear your clothes.....
I think she copied the Michael Kors suit because she liked it. So instead of truly taking inspiration from it, she copied it. Take Jay's chrysler building dress. Obviously, the dress didn't look like the building. But if you looked at it, you could see from whence his inspiration came. That's inspiration, not mimickry.
jay's personality gets on my nerves, and i wouldn't be caught dead in some of his stuff, but I always find myself wanting to see what he came up with. I think that is the mark of a good designer. I mean, really, I wouldn't wear Helmut Lang either, but I still want to see what he's got every year.
And I love that Jay can respond to whatever the challenge is.
i think it goes back to her designing clothes for herself. she designs what she likes to wear. I think you have to be more flexible and creative than that if you are going to ask other people to wear your clothes.....
I think she copied the Michael Kors suit because she liked it. So instead of truly taking inspiration from it, she copied it. Take Jay's chrysler building dress. Obviously, the dress didn't look like the building. But if you looked at it, you could see from whence his inspiration came. That's inspiration, not mimickry.
jay's personality gets on my nerves, and i wouldn't be caught dead in some of his stuff, but I always find myself wanting to see what he came up with. I think that is the mark of a good designer. I mean, really, I wouldn't wear Helmut Lang either, but I still want to see what he's got every year.
And I love that Jay can respond to whatever the challenge is.
Auntie, I'm with you.
I also wondered why she didn't just make the thing a one-piece, with the sheer overlay on top.
unless she's not capable of doing that. she was whining about not knowing anything about bathing suit construction.
at the very least, what about just a plain old bikini bottom or something........................
I also wondered why she didn't just make the thing a one-piece, with the sheer overlay on top.
unless she's not capable of doing that. she was whining about not knowing anything about bathing suit construction.
at the very least, what about just a plain old bikini bottom or something........................
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jay's personality gets on my nerves, and i wouldn't be caught dead in some of his stuff, but I always find myself wanting to see what he came up with. I think that is the mark of a good designer. I mean, really, I wouldn't wear Helmut Lang either, but I still want to see what he's got every year.
And I love that Jay can respond to whatever the challenge is.
This is why I like Jay best, too. His "I'm Jeee-zus" shtick is really stupid, and I was annoyed to hear him call Constance White a "feminazi." On the other hand, he's sometimes quite funny and, unlike some other, I don't have a problem with so-called "coarse" language.
But what's really interesting about Jay is his capacity to suprise with a well-conceived and well-executed design each week. At first, I just thought he was a clown, but after the BR challenge I began to wonder each week what he would come up with. Uniquely among the designers, in my opinion, Jay always makes something unpredictable, yet still utterly Jay. The others stick within fairly limited and predictable idioms.
After six episodes, I'm hoping Jay, Austin, and Kara DON'T win . . . for the only reason that I think they would be stifled at Banana Republic . . . Neither of these three give me the impression that they would be happy designing oh-hum garments for mass production . . . I think these three are getting so much exposure through the show, that they would have the ability to go out on their own without BR. Am I crazy?
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After six episodes, I'm hoping Jay, Austin, and Kara DON'T win . . . for the only reason that I think they would be stifled at Banana Republic
Well, but the BR gig is just for a year, right? I mean, they make some contacts, do some boring stuff, get their 100 grand, and meanwhile (hopefully) begin developing their own business. It's not that long a time, really.
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