PaleFire76
January 24, 2005 - 09:59 PM
I don't know if this has already been posted, but here's an article on Austin:
http://www.innewsweekly.com/Pages/ArtsEntSplash.htmlApparently he an Vanessa were chummy after the show.
dumb
January 24, 2005 - 10:04 PM
All I have to say on the whole ashlee/jessica thing is have you heard jessica butchering of her Robbie Williams remake????? Beyond that…they both SUCK… (hop topic thing..you would not say that if you actually knew their clothes an clients)
I’m objective, the BR challenge, only good designs were from Wendy, Alex, and Van…the rest fell short or flew over the top…eg. Jay and Austin flew over the top,, the rest ..missed the mark…Banana is SOOO mid market, rip off high end designers…it’s not funny…to be successful the CREATIVE designer needed to rip off her/his design for that market… grandmother’s closet doesn’t mean GRANDMOTHER’S CLOSET…know design when you crit this…
Austin wedding design is not the judges going back on the premise, but the fact that Austin FAILED..granted his most original design and my FAV design by him…but he FAILED the challenge (for all you who think his Sarah design was great, all I have to say is have you seen the orign illustrations for Alice in wonder land? Total rip off, besides I think all the desigeners failed this task..was suppose to be a total make over of her image not one inspired by the video..ie girl in small house…WOW! Alice in wonderland… what a make over!!!
As for those who say Jay should design for Paris H. again know design..that’s more Heatherette..ie immature What’shename Stewardt….
Alex never had a chance in this competition, only thing she had going for her were her looks…and I’ve seen better…better hit the gym Alex, can’t see you inn your own bikini…(she’s the designer like many who say, “I have no brains, I have no talent… let me design”)
Finally, let me say the whole FIT thing is like the LCF (London College of Fashion) You go there when you can’t design but don’t get me worng, if you go to Parsons your not that far behind..(remember Ford did not major in fashion..only name from there that sticks out)…
Valo
January 24, 2005 - 10:56 PM
i don't get why my post about kevin was delted by teh bravo board boss.
lisakaz
January 24, 2005 - 11:24 PM
Thanks for the link. It was interesting.
lk
Valo
January 24, 2005 - 11:30 PM
i feel like i got in trouble during recess or something because the bravo board boss deleted my posts.....i put that link about kevin up cuz i thought it was hilarious...too bad.
Dimple
January 25, 2005 - 06:26 AM
Austin... i love you..
Jay's damn good.. i see he's so consistent with his designs.. he adds a little Jay touch to everything
JesBelle
January 25, 2005 - 07:16 AM
I just wondered if it was possible to post links on this BB.
<a href="http://www.timesleader.com/mld/
thetimesleader/living/10500664.htm">Jay article.</a>
JesBelle
January 25, 2005 - 07:17 AM
Apparently not. Too bad. I'm getting heartily sick of cutting and pasting.
paillette
January 25, 2005 - 08:25 AM
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>Jay article.</a>
Thanks, that was a nice little interview.
lisakaz
January 25, 2005 - 10:38 AM
Cool. Thanks for the link.
lk
birdaileen
January 25, 2005 - 11:33 AM
According to the Sold auctions, this is how much money each designer has made so far with their designs from the show:
Jay $1400
Kara $1190
Austin $930
Wendy $885
Alexandra $707
Nora $410
Vanessa $285
Kevin $265.50
Starr $75
Robert $55
Dan $15
keep in mind that some designs were never offered up for auction (wendy's BR dress, kevin's wedding dress, mario's work) and this does not count the ongoing bathing suit sale.
this confirms that my favorite (yes.. Jay) is very appealing to many people who would be in the market for these type of clothes!
birdaileen
January 25, 2005 - 11:37 AM
here is the same list but with the number of items sold as well to clarify:
Jay $1400 (4 pieces)
Kara $1190 (3 pieces)
Austin $930 (4 pieces)
Wendy $885 (2 pieces)
Alexandra $707 (3 pieces)
Nora $410 (3 pieces)
Vanessa $285 (1 piece)
Kevin $265.50 (3 pieces)
Starr $75 (2 pieces)
Robert $55 (1 piece)
Dan $15 (1 piece)
is anyone else surprised to see wendy so far up on the list with so few designs auctioned??
greyparrot
January 25, 2005 - 11:55 AM
Austin: What can I say? The guy was BORN to dress women (albeit, not brides). Win or lose, I can easily see him as a red carpet darling of Hollywood beauties. His personal flair, and "girl, I got some gossip" personality are just icing on this talented piece of cake.
Jay: Here is the weird thing: I cant imagine myself wearing anything he has created so far, yet I am extremely envious of those that could. His deco dress and bathing suit were nothing short of genious...and yes, gorgeous too. Stranger still: He is my personal favorite. Again, win or lose, this man clearly has a bright future. The wealthy avant garde ladies will kneel at his shrine.
Kara: Clearly this girl deserves to win, and I hope she does. No, there are no trendy bells and whistles in her designs so far, just consistant understated elegance. This gal is a "classic" act just waiting to happen...clothing that will still look stylish 30 years from now.
GOD, I love this SHOW!!!!
jmfitz619
January 25, 2005 - 12:32 PM
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I wonder if bravo will have a second season with new designers.
If Bravo does bring on a second season of PR (And they'd be foolish not to), I think they should borrow from the pages of "American Idol", and allow the public a say in which designers stay and go, perhaps voting off some of the designers and leaving the finals to the judges, or vice versa. If you think about it, we would be the people potentially buying their designs and their products, right?
Why not get a little public feedback to gauge which designers would be more marketable?
jescci
January 25, 2005 - 02:12 PM
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According to the Sold auctions, this is how much money each designer has made so far with their designs from the show:
Jay $1400
Kara $1190
Austin $930
Wendy $885
Alexandra $707
Nora $410
Vanessa $285
Kevin $265.50
Starr $75
Robert $55
Dan $15
keep in mind that some designs were never offered up for auction (wendy's BR dress, kevin's wedding dress, mario's work) and this does not count the ongoing bathing suit sale.
Thanks for the post. This kind of dollars and cents analysis is what grounds us in reality. Tho as you point out may not be completely scientific because of absense of some designs on auction sight.
Now - why is Jay in the "lead"? My opinion: his designs - if not necesarrily the "best" (Austin takes that title hands down) - are the sexiest.
birdaileen
January 25, 2005 - 02:27 PM
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Thanks for the post. This kind of dollars and cents analysis is what grounds us in reality. Tho as you point out may not be completely scientific because of absense of some designs on auction sight.
Now - why is Jay in the "lead"? My opinion: his designs - if not necesarrily the "best" (Austin takes that title hands down) - are the sexiest.
yeah, i feel like seeing what people, real people, are actually willing to pay is important, and it gives a new perspective. jay's stuff is really sexy, and also very youth-oriented. i think the fact that kevin has brought in much less money that wendy with more designs sold is really interesting. objectively i would have put kevin ahead of wendy in terms of designs, but it seems that in the world of dollars and cents, as you say, this isn't the case.
vanessa, selling one outfit, also outsells kevin's three...
interesting.
JustTzujIt
January 25, 2005 - 06:23 PM
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Good point. If I hadn't heard them say that or that upcoming rock star's speech, I would have thought Austin was way off-the-way. Given I did hear what was said, I understood that he went with the comment and they did not mean it at least as far as how Austin thought they did. The colors Austin chose in that "rock star" challenge were Alice in Wonderland, and the woman endorsed that "take." She didn't say Bride of Frankenstein. Maybe Austin should have given her his wedding dress design instead...lol.
lk
And personally, I think the "Alice in Wonderland" dress was so much more cool and original. I mean, I have seen the pink and black thing so much this year, I was puking back in September. Really, I like Kevin, but... Jay's was also way more creative, but I liked the colors of Austin's more. But hey, that's just me!
JustTzujIt
January 25, 2005 - 06:25 PM
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Oh My God...sweet little Kevin...you don't have to search across the sea for a lady....you have a die hard fan right here. that is hilarious though....but the picture doesn't nearly do him justice....hmmmm..maybe its not to late for me to defect to russia and answer his ad!
I never thought of Kevin as so... hot but after I read his profile, I can see why you're a die-hard fan! I'm still sticking with Austin to win, but I think the picture actually looked good. It would have sold for me, anyway.
JustTzujIt
January 25, 2005 - 06:28 PM
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bye the way....that website says that kevin was born in 1970....which would make him 35...yet another descrepancy with his age....the tv says 44?...the this website says 37?...what on earth is going on here?...KEVIN...FESS UP...ARE YOU OVER THE HILL OR NOT!!!
It would actually be 24, because he hasn't had his bday yet. But still, I dunno - I would go with the website.
JustTzujIt
January 25, 2005 - 06:35 PM
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All I have to say on the whole ashlee/jessica thing is have you heard jessica butchering of her Robbie Williams remake????? Beyond that…they both SUCK… (hop topic thing..you would not say that if you actually knew their clothes an clients)
Ashlee Simpson severely lacks the talent that her sister has. Her sister can perform. Ashlee has been booed twice.
I have friends that go to Hot Topic, my two best friends, and I like most of Hot Topic's clothing. I have a bottle-cap, recycled rubber and car seatbelt from LittlEarth, my friends have a tutu toule skirt and boots, pants, bags, jewelry and wristbands from Hot Topic. HT is a great environment with really nice people, but I just don't love the Tripp pants. I don't see why any "goth" - read: poser - would wear huge black pants w/ purple or yellow or red lining and whoo hoo, suspenders in the back!
goddessamelia
January 25, 2005 - 06:38 PM
he would be 34. I was born in 71 and Im 33.
kitkit
January 25, 2005 - 07:06 PM
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bye the way....that website says that kevin was born in 1970....which would make him 35...yet another descrepancy with his age....the tv says 44?...the this website says 37?...what on earth is going on here?...KEVIN...FESS UP...ARE YOU OVER THE HILL OR NOT!!!
Oddly, my post on the other thread in reference to the personal ad was "edited" by the Bravo message board people. I don't know how it was edited, because the content was not changed in any way, but there was a little strip of text at the bottom that said it was.
Anyway, I feel the need to reiterate... That totally was NOT Kevin in that ad. It does not look like him at all. Another factor pointing to the fakeness of the whole thing is the inclusion of the "poster's" full name. What kind of person would put his full name on an Internet personal ad? Is this something that a person who hopes to become a high profile fashion designer (i.e. someone whose name would be often and easily searched on Google or Yahoo or whatever) would do, especially when he's appearing on a major cable network television show? I really don't think so.
Not to mention, who said he wasn't gay?
BravoBoardBoss
January 25, 2005 - 11:53 PM
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i don't get why my post about kevin was delted by teh bravo board boss.
It wasn't since it was on topic for "The Designers." Look again and you'll see it's still there. Every single copy you cross-posted to all the other boards was removed.
Note the names of each topic -- "The Models," "The Judges," etc. They're there for a reason. A word to the wise: repeatedly posting the same thing again and again to get attention, either within one topic or across several, is bad message board etiquette and a good way to get kicked off the boards.
ladySaint7
January 26, 2005 - 01:09 AM
The show is really interesting as reality shows go... Kara Saun has a lot of talent and class which it seems others possess one or the other of... She is my favorite to win...
Jay is wacky and funny... and yes very talented...
Austin is more drama than talent and is a characature rather than a real person.... Fun to watch though...
Wendy's photo on your site looks like Cruella D'Ville... She is bizarre and has issues (age and other things)... She is strategizing as if she is on "Surviver"... Instead of worrying about strategy, she needs to focus on finding who she is as a human being and then as a designer but mostly on designing good fashions. She desperately need to visit the set of TLC's Makeover Story and get that taken care of and come to terms with her new 15 minute celebrity.... This is undoubtedly her first, best and last chance at it....
The rest are somewhat non-descript.... sorry to say...
blueskies
January 26, 2005 - 04:13 AM
I've just caught the re-runs but I already have a favorite: Jay McCarroll -- this guy is a major talent. He can do rough and ready urban wear and he can do beautiful couture work with fine detailing. I'm looking forward to seeing his stuff actually produced, whether or not he wins the show. Heck, I'd even shop with him now, does anyone have his contact information?
What I don't understand is how Wendy is still on the show. And surprise, surprise, she won the Banana Republic dress challenge by essentially lifting from the Banana designs that they showed? Talk about kissing a**. C'mon! Her work is neither conceptually interesting nor skillfully executed. Booooring.
Hey Jay McC, I'm rooting for you!!!!
corprip
January 26, 2005 - 07:40 AM
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I've just caught the re-runs but I already have a favorite: Jay McCarroll -- this guy is a major talent. He can do rough and ready urban wear and he can do beautiful couture work with fine detailing. I'm looking forward to seeing his stuff actually produced, whether or not he wins the show. Heck, I'd even shop with him now, does anyone have his contact information?
What I don't understand is how Wendy is still on the show. And surprise, surprise, she won the Banana Republic dress challenge by essentially lifting from the Banana designs that they showed? Talk about kissing a**. C'mon! Her work is neither conceptually interesting nor skillfully executed. Booooring.
Hey Jay McC, I'm rooting for you!!!!
I wish. I have dreams of making that boy my fashion slave. But his website is www.jaymccarroll.com. Hopefully it will be updated with contact info after the show is done.
ThomsTeddyBear
January 26, 2005 - 09:18 AM
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Hi everyone, you have to see this....if anyone thought kevin was gay, it's not true. this is Kevin's profile on a website where american men can find a mail-order russian bride:
http://bride.ru/ph/htcgi/men/103/103685PP2.html
copy and paste it!! it's too hilarious!! look at his picture!!!
tell me what you think!!!
Catching up on posts, was away while family member was sick.
I think it's a nice profile! Though the glasses take away from his eyes, he should have taken them off. And speaks fluent French?! Please God, since my husband is gay, please let Kevin speak some french before the show ends!
ThomsTeddyBear
January 26, 2005 - 09:28 AM
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I don't know if this has already been posted, but here's an article on Austin:
http://www.innewsweekly.com/Pages/ArtsEntSplash.html
Apparently he an Vanessa were chummy after the show.
YES!! THAT'S MY BOY!!! He is who he is and who don't like it can't be helped!
One of Vanessa's co-workers came on not long ago and said Austin and Vanessa were friends too.
Thanks PaleFire76 for shining some light on the darkness of the naysayers
TTB
PaleFire76
January 26, 2005 - 11:45 AM
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Thanks PaleFire76 for shining some light on the darkness of the naysayers
TTB
My pleasure, TTB!
angeedee
January 26, 2005 - 11:51 AM
I've never seen Kevin identified as 44 years old on the show. it says 34 or 35, can't remember which.
DJCaliboii79
January 26, 2005 - 01:05 PM
I really hate that people misunderstand robert and his comments he makes about women sometimes. He doesn't mean to sound like a chauvinist I understood what he meant but I felt like some people were going to take it the wrong way, i hope not cuz thats not even in his character.
karaNaustinFan
January 26, 2005 - 01:18 PM
Hello everyone. I'm new to the board but I've been following along with the show. I'm absolutely hooked now. My favorite designers are Kara and Austin. Sometimes I like Wendy's designes and other times I don't. It's very rare that I like an outfit that Jay designs. The only outfit that Jay designed I actually liked was the one for the Banana Republic challenge.
I did not care at all for the swim suit that Jay designed last week. It was hideous to me. I can't believe that the judges actually thought that his design was one of the best. I really did not agree with them on that. Austin's swim suit was the best. He is incredibly sweet and I am so glad that he's still in the competition.
I wasn't a big fan of Nora or Alexander. I'm happy that the two of them are gone. They were troublemakers and I didn't care for their designs at all.
I'm really looking forward to the show tonight. Thank goodness that it doesn't come on at the same time as American Idol. Can't miss that either. Lol.
lisakaz
January 26, 2005 - 01:22 PM
While he may not be the worst charcter in this regard, it DOES fit the fact that he is called "the player" here, doesn't it?
lk
steffi
January 26, 2005 - 01:58 PM
You've been to his store? Could you tell me the address. I live in WB PA and would love to see his store. I love his fashion sense and think he should win.
karaNaustinFan
January 26, 2005 - 02:07 PM
Are there any other message boards or gruops that we can chat about "Project Runway" on? I don't like the setup on this board and it's difficult to read all the messages posted. If anyone knows of any other groups or boards for the show, I'd love to know about them.
Thanks.
corprip
January 26, 2005 - 02:08 PM
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I don't know if this has already been posted, but here's an article on Austin:
http://www.innewsweekly.com/Pages/ArtsEntSplash.html
Apparently he an Vanessa were chummy after the show.
YES!! THAT'S MY BOY!!! He is who he is and who don't like it can't be helped!
One of Vanessa's co-workers came on not long ago and said Austin and Vanessa were friends too.
Thanks PaleFire76 for shining some light on the darkness of the naysayers
TTB
Austin still sold Vanessa out.
Senka
January 26, 2005 - 02:20 PM
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I hear he is having his own show during Fashion Week...I think it will be a must see!
Oh, that was about Kevin. If he has his own fashion show during NYFashion week, then it's because he's in the last 3. How did you get that info ?
btrcup888
January 26, 2005 - 02:25 PM
AUSTIN IS OUR FAVORITE ON THE SHOW. WE ARE A FAMILY AND ALL LOVE HIM.
Senka
January 26, 2005 - 02:35 PM
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this is Kevin's profile on a website where american men can find a mail-order russian bride:
http://bride.ru/ph/htcgi/men/103/103685PP2.html
Cool, I wanted to see that !
........
Well, what can I say... We two have so many things in common ! Including the age-thingie: I've been 25 for several years, now I'm 26 (several times already). So I guess he still could be 34-35... We also do have the same hobbies, the same musical taste, do the same physical activities and read mostly the same books. Ah, Kevin, you should have found me before my husband actually did ! Too bad for you, Kevin, you don't know what you missed.
P.S. Kevin, I still love your designs, so if you want to offer me anything, it would be gladly accepted.
HotsiTatsi
January 26, 2005 - 02:35 PM
But lets not forget that this is all pre-taped and his nickname was "awarded" after he made that comment. It's all about selling the show and designers. I don't see anything wrong with it, sport cars are sexy as are women.
JesBelle
January 26, 2005 - 03:08 PM
karaNaustinFan,
Just google "Project Runway". There's only a few hundred BBs discussing the show.
angeedee
January 26, 2005 - 03:17 PM
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I really hate that people misunderstand robert and his comments he makes about women sometimes. He doesn't mean to sound like a chauvinist I understood what he meant but I felt like some people were going to take it the wrong way, i hope not cuz thats not even in his character.
I agree with you. I think there is the assumption that he is objectifying women by comparing them to sports cars. I think the reality is that men often try to assigne personalities to their cars.
I mean, I'm just as feminist as the next girl but sometimes we all have to be rational.
angeedee
January 26, 2005 - 03:19 PM
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I hear he is having his own show during Fashion Week...I think it will be a must see!
Oh, that was about Kevin. If he has his own fashion show during NYFashion week, then it's because he's in the last 3. How did you get that info ?
actually, kevin had his own show on fashion week in 2003. i found it on a fashion week schedule.
so i wouldn't assume that means he won.
designerwannabe
January 26, 2005 - 03:59 PM
Hey everyone I am also new to the board. Kara rocks, Jay is just like the guys I went to High school with - fun for a party do you really want to work with him, Austin is the gay best friend every women needs, Kevin thinks he is really cooler than he is, Robert tries to hard not to care, and Wendy well I think the producers needed someone that the fans could universally hate. We all seem to agree that as a designer she lacks essentially...talent. But the others well they are where they belong. the Final Three - Kara, Austin and Jay. if Austin stops making costumes and Jay stops playing with fire tempting God with his "Jesus impersonation" well it will be a great showing.
lisakaz
January 26, 2005 - 04:20 PM
Easily, it can be seen as a sexist comment. Both being said to be mindless, high-maintenance men's toys. More objectification. Can't you see that? Whether he believes it or not, women have long been put down as brainless appendages of men and this comparison feeds that stereotype, agree with the association or not. One does not have to be a "feminazi" to get that.
lk
paillette
January 26, 2005 - 04:43 PM
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Easily, it can be seen as a sexist comment. Both being said to be mindless, high-maintenance men's toys. More objectification. Can't you see that? Whether he believes it or not, women have long been put down as brainless appendages of men and this comparison feeds that stereotype, agree with the association or not. One does not have to be a "feminazi" to get that.
I wholeheartedly agree! While the comment masquerades as a compliment -- men love sportscars -- it also suggests that women exist only for male pleasure and enjoyment. That women have no independent personality, desires, or intellect except insofar as they are admired by men. While Robert seems like an okay sort, I have found that particular comment offensive from the get-go.
I am a lot more complicated and intelligent than a Porsche. On good days, I'm sexy, but I also have my own life going on. I'm not just waiting somewhere for a man to show up and "drive" me; I don't exist to enhance my husband's prestige or the admiration he gets from other men. Robert comes across as considerably LESS sexy than he might otherwise be, by continually repeating such a brainless line.
Valo
January 26, 2005 - 05:16 PM
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Easily, it can be seen as a sexist comment. Both being said to be mindless, high-maintenance men's toys. More objectification. Can't you see that? Whether he believes it or not, women have long been put down as brainless appendages of men and this comparison feeds that stereotype, agree with the association or not. One does not have to be a "feminazi" to get that.
I wholeheartedly agree! While the comment masquerades as a compliment -- men love sportscars -- it also suggests that women exist only for male pleasure and enjoyment. That women have no independent personality, desires, or intellect except insofar as they are admired by men. While Robert seems like an okay sort, I have found that particular comment offensive from the get-go.
I am a lot more complicated and intelligent than a Porsche. On good days, I'm sexy, but I also have my own life going on. I'm not just waiting somewhere for a man to show up and "drive" me; I don't exist to enhance my husband's prestige or the admiration he gets from other men. Robert comes across as considerably LESS sexy than he might otherwise be, by continually repeating such a brainless line.
I learned a new word from Jay that I think suits you: Femi-nazi. Robert is simple, his idea that women are like sports cars is simple, and his explanation is simple. It's such a typically female thing for you to take what he (robert) says and analyze it and attach more meaning to it than he ever intended. I'm a woman, and in my opinion (even though i don't like his designs), there's absolutely nothing offensive about Robert being inspired by sportscars because he thinks a car is like a woman. I'd be terrified to say anything at all about women if I was your boyfriend/husband/partner/whatever other PC term you might use.
paillette
January 26, 2005 - 05:32 PM
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Robert is simple, his idea that women are like sports cars is simple, and his explanation is simple.
Hmmm..... RObert is simple, the comment is simple, his explanation is simple, and you buy into all of it. Conclusion: you're simple, too -- and proud of it!
Cherbourg
January 26, 2005 - 06:04 PM
I would like for Karasun or Austin to win. I would love to wear Austin's clothes. He knows a girl's heart. I would
love to wear Karasun clothes as I get older. I lust after
Mr. Robert Plotkin but I do not like his clothes. I did not
realize Karasun was 37. She looks so young. I thoght she was
in her early twenties. She is so calm for a designer.
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Is there a Project Runway cd ? If not,is the melody played as the eliminated designer exits the stage available on cd? Please provide the name of the melody and artist.
Auf Wiedersehen
Valo
January 26, 2005 - 06:20 PM
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Robert is simple, his idea that women are like sports cars is simple, and his explanation is simple.
Hmmm..... RObert is simple, the comment is simple, his explanation is simple, and you buy into all of it. Conclusion: you're simple, too -- and proud of it!
I'm not a bitter high maintenance fuddy-duddy like you. You read too much into things and take offense too easily. You're a self righteous feminist -- and proud of it!!
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