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angeedee
February 4, 2005 - 10:46 AM
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Damn that Robert - if only he put in another half-hour into his post office shirt, we'd be dancing on Wendy's TV grave.

Robert needed to complete his postal uniform design with a utility jacket, maybe with zippered sleeves( something like the pants concept) and a utility belt for small items. His design had promise, but his finish design was not enough.It looked like a lazy effort.
P.S. Even if his design was the best of the group, he still would be eliminated...That is unfortunately about show biz ratings. The producers want a big final show build up for a surprise ending.





what about tim?
that weasel. (LOL!)
helping wendy?
I mean, can you truly help someone who thinks that orthopaedic shoe belongs on a runway ANYWHERE?
all she did was give the model her own shoe, since tim said it looked good................................
paillette
February 4, 2005 - 10:48 AM
Could the "elimination you never saw coming" refer to the model who will be eliminated?

Could the layout of the pictures of the fashion week show be significant? Three designers are shown at the very beginning of the sequence, and another one lower down...
ThomsTeddyBear
February 4, 2005 - 10:51 AM
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Update: there are now pictures of all 4 designers on that site. Did BR not want to eliminate Cruella so all 4 went to Fashion Week or is this a deliberate disguise?

lk



WHEW!! But now I'm REALLY confused! What's going on? Aren't there only supposed to be 3?

Btw - AHHHHHH!!!! AUSTIN IS HOLY HADES H-O-T!!!

http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/se...-8193|0|0|0&p=7

*FAINT*
ericats
February 4, 2005 - 10:51 AM
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Wendy is . . . maybe the most endearing and possibly the character that it is easiest to sympathize with.



I'm sorry but I'm a 40 year old woman and one of the best life lessons that I've learned in all my years is to be honorable, gracious, respectful, and honest. I'm baffled at the way Wendy has treated her fellow contestants; hey, you want to make it to the top three? then do so on your merits instead of "trashing Kevin" (Wendy's quote from her website.) I liked her at first since I could identify with her but her actions have been very dishonorable. If her actions had been honorable she wouldn't have to explain, justify, etc. her actions on her website.

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I think it is interesting also how nobody is really willing to attack her designs.



Again, sorry but I've been reading many, many posts about how people dislike Wendy's designs and they think that she is a dressmaker as opposed to a designer.

Also, if you check out The Runway link on the Episodes link you will see that the Judges have placed Wendy's designs near the bottom or even last many times.
angeedee
February 4, 2005 - 10:52 AM
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SPOILER ALERT!

Editing my own post - duh! There's a photo of Jay in there lol.



there's a photo of jay, kara saun, austin and wendy on there.
all four of them are shown.
luvinkpenz
February 4, 2005 - 10:55 AM
Oh boy, they have pictures of Jay, Kara, Austin and Wendy on the runway. Now jay is the only one with pictures with a model. Everyone else is just talking on a microphone. hummmmm, Verrrrrrrry Intrrrrrrrrrrresting.
angeedee
February 4, 2005 - 10:59 AM
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Oh boy, they have pictures of Jay, Kara, Austin and Wendy on the runway. Now jay is the only one with pictures with a model. Everyone else is just talking on a microphone. hummmmm, Verrrrrrrry Intrrrrrrrrrrresting.



so far, (to me anyway) some of the clothes look like jay. some look like kara saun. not that many to judge by, tho
katgirl
February 4, 2005 - 11:00 AM
i said the same thing about Austin modeling Jay's outfit...but even Austin looked butch in it...i'm not sure how i feel about that. i would definitely buy/wear jay's Postal outfit...

how funny is it that we refer to that epy as the Postal episode...didn't somebody go postal? i'm disappointed that no one attributed working for the post office for a day to Windy's behavior.
fancytancy
February 4, 2005 - 11:03 AM
7 more pictures added and all I can say is that it looks very "Austin"
angeedee
February 4, 2005 - 11:05 AM
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Oh boy, they have pictures of Jay, Kara, Austin and Wendy on the runway. Now jay is the only one with pictures with a model. Everyone else is just talking on a microphone. hummmmm, Verrrrrrrry Intrrrrrrrrrrresting.



so far, (to me anyway) some of the clothes look like jay. some look like kara saun. not that many to judge by, tho



now i see some that look like austin.
and thank GOD wendy got rid of that ridiculous dye job.
i think she looks 100 percent better.
you know, for wendy.
moomba50
February 4, 2005 - 11:11 AM
WHEW!! But now I'm REALLY confused! What's going on? Aren't there only supposed to be 3?

lk




Btw - AHHHHHH!!!! AUSTIN IS HOLY HADES H-O-T!!!


ok I thought Austin looked great too! I didn't even recognize him. Wendy looks like she got that crap color out of her hair. I didn't even think about the fact that there were 4 people there. i guess the surprise elimination is that there isn't one. What the heck!??
ThomsTeddyBear
February 4, 2005 - 11:13 AM
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7 more pictures added and all I can say is that it looks very "Austin"



I LOVE the outfit numbered 52132838!!! It's beautiful!! It's gorgeous!! Austin made it, I WANT IT!!
fancytancy
February 4, 2005 - 11:15 AM
SPOLIER ALERT;


If you go to Wireimage.com and search for Project Runway you will see all the outfits and captioned with who created them......
moomba50
February 4, 2005 - 11:16 AM
I can definitly see some of kara saun's work in there too. I also saw Austin walking on the runway when models were there.
ThomsTeddyBear
February 4, 2005 - 11:18 AM
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SPOLIER ALERT;


If you go to Wireimage.com and search for Project Runway you will see all the outfits and captioned with who created them......



I would but I'm having a hard time closing these HOT pictures of Austin...ok ok, I don't want to close these HOT pictures of Austin!

*brings up second browser*
angeedee
February 4, 2005 - 11:19 AM
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Could the "elimination you never saw coming" refer to the model who will be eliminated?

Could the layout of the pictures of the fashion week show be significant? Three designers are shown at the very beginning of the sequence, and another one lower down...



well, the only model I recognized in the runway show was Melissa. did anybody else see a Project Runway model?
moomba50
February 4, 2005 - 11:21 AM
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SPOLIER ALERT;


If you go to Wireimage.com and search for Project Runway you will see all the outfits and captioned with who created them......




Yes, there are some great photos there. I was right about the Kara Saun outfits. As much as i hate ol Wendy she had some very beautiful outfits. I love Jay though!!!!!
moomba50
February 4, 2005 - 11:24 AM
well, the only model I recognized in the runway show was Melissa. did anybody else see a Project Runway model?



No I agree. I didn't recognize any of the other models either. I just thought my memory was going bad.
angeedee
February 4, 2005 - 11:24 AM
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Quote:

SPOLIER ALERT;


If you go to Wireimage.com and search for Project Runway you will see all the outfits and captioned with who created them......



I would but I'm having a hard time closing these HOT pictures of Austin...ok ok, I don't want to close these HOT pictures of Austin!

*brings up second browser*



I have to say that in these pictures austin really is a beautiful man.
i don't really care what the designers look like physically,(although I must say that if you have no personal style I don't want you designing any clothes for me) but really, austin does look so lovely in those pictures!
angeedee
February 4, 2005 - 11:26 AM
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Quote:

SPOLIER ALERT;


If you go to Wireimage.com and search for Project Runway you will see all the outfits and captioned with who created them......




Yes, there are some great photos there. I was right about the Kara Saun outfits. As much as i hate ol Wendy she had some very beautiful outfits. I love Jay though!!!!!



er, hmmm.
so i'm not getting it.
what the heck is going on?
katgirl
February 4, 2005 - 11:28 AM
how about i'd buy some of those outfits i saw !? they look much better than the 15-minute outfits they made on the show...
angeedee
February 4, 2005 - 11:29 AM
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Quote:

SPOLIER ALERT;


If you go to Wireimage.com and search for Project Runway you will see all the outfits and captioned with who created them......




Yes, there are some great photos there. I was right about the Kara Saun outfits. As much as i hate ol Wendy she had some very beautiful outfits. I love Jay though!!!!!



you really think so?
to me, it looked like she was still trying to conjugate the verb "to dowdify"
paillette
February 4, 2005 - 11:31 AM
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I have to say that in these pictures austin really is a beautiful man.


I never thought Austin was good-looking until I saw this photo. He DOES look pretty hot... and those of you who know and love me, know that that's quite an admission! I tell you, the man should leave aside some of the makeup, or go for a more "natural" look with it. He looks so much better there than on the show.
ThomsTeddyBear
February 4, 2005 - 11:33 AM
Martinique is there - they cut off the top of her head but you can recognize her stance and hint-of-a-smile.
angeedee
February 4, 2005 - 11:36 AM
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well, the only model I recognized in the runway show was Melissa. did anybody else see a Project Runway model?



No I agree. I didn't recognize any of the other models either. I just thought my memory was going bad.



LOL
wait a minute, i'm not saying my memory isn't going bad!!!
(took me 20 minutes this a.m. to remember wehre I left the car keys)

but i didn't recognize anyone else. maybe she is the model who won their competition. I guess she deserves it for stroking a dirty old man's..... er,..... ego in the swimsuit episode..
RGRRGR
February 4, 2005 - 11:36 AM
In looking at the designs listed on WireImage, I must say that Austin's overall are not that good, there seems to be something about his collection that reminds me of an old time western (i.e. Gunsmoke). Jays appear a little futuristic, although well put together. Wendy's appear unfinished and strange. Those attributed to Kara seem like they could be sold and worn present day.

However, my humble opinion.
paillette
February 4, 2005 - 11:37 AM
My husband came up with an interesting theory...
He speculates that the producers took Wendy aside early on and made a deal with her:
Producers: Wendy, let's face it, you're an okay dressmaker but not really competitive for the top three. But if you help us out, we can make sure you show at Fashion Week...
Wendy: What do you have in mind?
Producers: Well, you know reality shows... we need drama, we need a villain. We'll get you to Fashion Week, but you have to be our villain. You have to let us streak your hair and give you hideous blue eye shadow... and you have to plot and scheme your way through the show, on camera, as often as possible. You do that for us, and we'll get your designs in fashion week.

Of course, to maintain any credibility at all, they had to keep the 3 designers who deserved to be in the top 3... but they added Wendy as a fourth for payback for a job well done. Very well done, I'd say, from the level of interest in her on these boards.
angeedee
February 4, 2005 - 11:40 AM
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Martinique is there - they cut off the top of her head but you can recognize her stance and hint-of-a-smile.



i will go back and look. i missed her.
ThomsTeddyBear
February 4, 2005 - 11:43 AM
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My husband came up with an interesting theory...
He speculates that the producers took Wendy aside early on and made a deal with her:
Producers: Wendy, let's face it, you're an okay dressmaker but not really competitive for the top three. But if you help us out, we can make sure you show at Fashion Week...
Wendy: What do you have in mind?
Producers: Well, you know reality shows... we need drama, we need a villain. We'll get you to Fashion Week, but you have to be our villain. You have to let us streak your hair and give you hideous blue eye shadow... and you have to plot and scheme your way through the show, on camera, as often as possible. You do that for us, and we'll get your designs in fashion week.

Of course, to maintain any credibility at all, they had to keep the 3 designers who deserved to be in the top 3... but they added Wendy as a fourth for payback for a job well done. Very well done, I'd say, from the level of interest in her on these boards.



Wow, that sounds completely plausible!

KODAK MOMENT, GET IT NOW! I'M AGREEING WITH PAILETTE!

Oh wait, she agreed with me that Austin is HOT in those pictures! That's twice! Print it out, people...print it out!
angeedee
February 4, 2005 - 11:44 AM
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In looking at the designs listed on WireImage, I must say that Austin's overall are not that good, there seems to be something about his collection that reminds me of an old time western (i.e. Gunsmoke). Jays appear a little futuristic, although well put together. Wendy's appear unfinished and strange. Those attributed to Kara seem like they could be sold and worn present day.

However, my humble opinion.



i agree with your assement, although I did think a couple of austin's gowns were fabulous.

i still think austin should be designing wardrobe for movies. i just think he would be genius at that........

i thought jay's unifying element (ear muffs on everyone) was hilarious. as soon as i saw that, I knew it was jay's stuff. you know, jay didn't appeal to me at first but i must say his skill has won me over.

and kara saun, I mean, damn. what can you say? just lovely, lovely things.
PaleFire76
February 4, 2005 - 11:45 AM
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Go take a look at a dictionary for a definition of honest and you may find the following:

Marked by or displaying integrity; upright
Not deceptive or fraudulent; genuine
Equitable; fair




Very eloquently put!

Don't have much time today. Just wanted to thank you, TTB, Snoops, and others for arguing the points I was trying to make so much more clearly and forcefully!!!
paillette
February 4, 2005 - 11:48 AM
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In looking at the designs listed on WireImage, I must say that Austin's overall are not that good, there seems to be something about his collection that reminds me of an old time western (i.e. Gunsmoke). Jays appear a little futuristic, although well put together. Wendy's appear unfinished and strange. Those attributed to Kara seem like they could be sold and worn present day.


Austin has an Argentina gaucho thing going on.
Jay's are classic Jay... edgy, but refined.
Kara's cohere well as a group, seem wearable, but nothing stands out much.
Wendy's are conservative and uninteresting.
moomba50
February 4, 2005 - 11:48 AM
Jays appear a little futuristic, although well put together.

However, my humble opinion.



I think they all had some sort of the "gunsmoke" style of clothes from what I could see.
BoyzMom
February 4, 2005 - 11:50 AM
LOL - in my earlier post, I mentioned the designs looked very Jay - there were only about 24 images up at the time and no attribution to the designer. In that post, I said it looked 80% hit 20% miss because I was assuming they were all Jay's. This is hysterical - all but one of the misses I now see were actually Wendy's! But that dress #4318617 (on wireimage.com) that Wendy designed is FIERCE! Really amazing.
tverow
February 4, 2005 - 11:54 AM
I will be really angry if Wendy is not sent packing next week. Not, because she is a witch but bacause she is a BAD designer! She should have been eliminated after the first show! Obviously she has been kept on by the producers but enough is enough!

If Wendy is not eliminated next week I propose that we boycott not only the show but Bravo!

If Michael Kors does not get rid of Wendy BOYCOTT MICHAEL KORS!

BOYCOTT BANANA REPUBLICK!

BOYCOTT LOREAL PARIS!

BOYCOTT ELLE MAGAZINE!

Join with me Project Runway fans!!!

Kara, Jay, and Austin are the best and there is NO EXCUSE for Wendy being in the top three!

If she makes is in the top three it is an insult to us fans and to design!
paillette
February 4, 2005 - 11:56 AM
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KODAK MOMENT, GET IT NOW! I'M AGREEING WITH PAILETTE!

Oh wait, she agreed with me that Austin is HOT in those pictures! That's twice! Print it out, people...print it out!



You do know that this means the apocalypse is near, TTB. There's no other explanation.
ThomsTeddyBear
February 4, 2005 - 11:56 AM
Quote:

Quote:

Go take a look at a dictionary for a definition of honest and you may find the following:

Marked by or displaying integrity; upright
Not deceptive or fraudulent; genuine
Equitable; fair




Very eloquently put!

Don't have much time today. Just wanted to thank you, TTB, Snoops, and others for arguing the points I was trying to make so much more clearly and forcefully!!!



Wow, thanks! You are too cool and your posts have always made alot of sense.

I'm going to miss you and some of the others on here after all this is over. This bunch is not as friendly a bunch as the QE crowd (and we have our tussles), but it still was nice to see them and you on an almost daily basis
lisakaz
February 4, 2005 - 12:00 PM
I can't find the outfits on wireimage. I only see party type photos.

lk
BoyzMom
February 4, 2005 - 12:03 PM
Lisa - Do a search on Project Runway from the main page. There are two categories, parties and Fashion Week.

BTW - That was not really smart timing of the final episode by Bravo! Here we are seeing all this stuff live.
PaleFire76
February 4, 2005 - 12:03 PM
OMG!!!!!! I just got through reading the posts about the Wireimage photos. Exciting!!!!!
BoyzMom
February 4, 2005 - 12:10 PM
Is that Julia in the magenta gown with Jay?
jacedes
February 4, 2005 - 12:10 PM
I think it is interesting also how nobody is really willing to attack her designs. It seems like all the responses to my post were either personal attacks on me (which I could care less about) or personal attacks on Wendy. The only thing that keeps people on this show are the designs.


Okay, I'll attack her designs. Her postal worker design was beyond lazy and made Melissa, who is quite attractive, look like she had my size thighs (heaven forbid). It was downright dowdy, to use Michael's word. While I liked her swimsuit, it didn't look like a swimsuit--it was a dress. I didn't like her wedding dress because I didn't think it looked like a wedding dress--it looked like a prom dress. I actually liked her 2055 dress (I certainly didn't think it looked like cat yak).

The bottom line, though, is that at this point she is out of her league. Kara Saun, Jay, and Austin are simply *better than Wendy*. She hangs on by luck and because the producers want a bad guy.
angeedee
February 4, 2005 - 12:13 PM
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I will be really angry if Wendy is not sent packing next week. Not, because she is a witch but bacause she is a BAD designer! She should have been eliminated after the first show! Obviously she has been kept on by the producers but enough is enough!

If Wendy is not eliminated next week I propose that we boycott not only the show but Bravo!

If Michael Kors does not get rid of Wendy BOYCOTT MICHAEL KORS!

BOYCOTT BANANA REPUBLICK!

BOYCOTT LOREAL PARIS!

BOYCOTT ELLE MAGAZINE!

Join with me Project Runway fans!!!

Kara, Jay, and Austin are the best and there is NO EXCUSE for Wendy being in the top three!

If she makes is in the top three it is an insult to us fans and to design!



i'd like to help, but BR bores me, I can't afford Kors, I don't read Elle, I don't use L'oreal and there is no way in HELL i'm giving up Queer Eye.
Sorry.

but i won't be watching any more bravo reality shows.
i don't like being maniuplated or lied to.
Wendy is a dressmaker. she's not a designer.
and all the histrionics are just stupid.
I wish the "powers that be" would give us some credit and have a competition show based on skill, talent and ability.
There's a challenge for corporate america!!
bet they can't do it!!!!
ThomsTeddyBear
February 4, 2005 - 12:15 PM
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Quote:

KODAK MOMENT, GET IT NOW! I'M AGREEING WITH PAILETTE!

Oh wait, she agreed with me that Austin is HOT in those pictures! That's twice! Print it out, people...print it out!



You do know that this means the apocalypse is near, TTB. There's no other explanation.



LOL
angeedee
February 4, 2005 - 12:31 PM
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I think it is interesting also how nobody is really willing to attack her designs. It seems like all the responses to my post were either personal attacks on me (which I could care less about) or personal attacks on Wendy. The only thing that keeps people on this show are the designs.


Okay, I'll attack her designs. Her postal worker design was beyond lazy and made Melissa, who is quite attractive, look like she had my size thighs (heaven forbid). It was downright dowdy, to use Michael's word. While I liked her swimsuit, it didn't look like a swimsuit--it was a dress. I didn't like her wedding dress because I didn't think it looked like a wedding dress--it looked like a prom dress. I actually liked her 2055 dress (I certainly didn't think it looked like cat yak).

The bottom line, though, is that at this point she is out of her league. Kara Saun, Jay, and Austin are simply *better than Wendy*. She hangs on by luck and because the producers want a bad guy.



I'm echoing here.
but hello? go back and read a sister's post.
there are a bunch of us who have been attacking wendy's designs since day one.
but here's a reiteration if you're lazy.
the first design was NOT CLOTHING. woven candy: that's not innovation. and if josieann hadn't contributed her own drawers, it would have been a completely different kind of reality show.
second design: vision? ha. it was lame. unfinished. poorly fitted. poor/no concept. slipshod execution. and I think the model was wearing that mask because she didn't want anyone to recongize her in that bag.
third design: commercial appeal: it was boring. one of the most basic designs, almost the first thing we learn in design school-- it looked a lot like the dress we make to learn to fit things on people. (and the neckline on the cape looked cartoonish)
fourth design: she didn't design it, austin did, so nothing to talk about.
fifth design: working with a client: apparently to wendy that means lying your butt off. the dress: asymmetrical and lacing. just like 80 percent of the dresses on her website. So i suppose it was finished because she didn't really have to "design" anything.
sixth design: make a splash: wendy's attempt was to ask a reporter she was charged with charming: "so, what do you want me to say?" the suit: shirring, which as many designers/dressmakers know is a common method of hiding a lack of skill underneath. once it got wet, it would have looked like a trainwreck. it wasn't hemmed. it had no bottom. Again, we have a model contributing her own drawers to a design.
seventh design: she sliced up a sweater. her skirt was made from another sweater, again sliced. that apparently was wendy's view of "deconstruction." Lame again. no concept again.
eighth design: i must say I bow to wendy's skill on this one. It takes real talent to make a six foot tall, 110 pound model look like a hippy, overweight hungarian fishwife.
But our wendy did it!!!

So, there you go. Sorry for the long post.
I could say more if you really want me to.
But in the words of our kevin johnn, "I don't think you want to know what I think."
moomba50
February 4, 2005 - 12:51 PM
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I think it is interesting also how nobody is really willing to attack her designs. It seems like all the responses to my post were either personal attacks on me (which I could care less about) or personal attacks on Wendy. The only thing that keeps people on this show are the designs.

Uh HELLO??? That seems to be the majority of what is being "attacked". go back and read.
paillette
February 4, 2005 - 12:57 PM
I wonder if the PR designers will get many reviews in newspapers, fashion magazines, etc. It would be interesting to see what fashion journalists who have no connection to the show say about the finalists. Will they be praised, slammed, or ignored?
Based on the photos online, I'd say the win will probably go to Kara, though I still have some hopes for Jay.
angeedee
February 4, 2005 - 01:10 PM
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I wonder if the PR designers will get many reviews in newspapers, fashion magazines, etc. It would be interesting to see what fashion journalists who have no connection to the show say about the finalists. Will they be praised, slammed, or ignored?
Based on the photos online, I'd say the win will probably go to Kara, though I still have some hopes for Jay.



I think that, no matter what the producers of PR perpetuate, we have not heard the last of jay or kara.
they both have such distinctive styles, coupled with imagination and skill. I think we will hear from them again.................
musclemonkey
February 4, 2005 - 01:12 PM
I just think it is horrible that PR couldn't keep this a secret until the show aired. And don't you guys think after seeing the previews for next week when Michael Kors says that he is disappointed....they must not end up elimating anyone. What a pisser.
ericats
February 4, 2005 - 01:14 PM
SPOILERS

SPOILERS

SPOILERS


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but i won't be watching any more bravo reality shows. i don't like being maniuplated or lied to.
Wendy is a dressmaker. she's not a designer.
and all the histrionics are just stupid.
I wish the "powers that be" would give us some credit and have a competition show based on skill, talent and ability.
There's a challenge for corporate america!!
bet they can't do it!!!!



Thank you for stating my thoughts so well! I just sent a letter to Bravo Viewer Relations (Contact link is at the bottom of page) expressing my disappointment.

I guess that since Wendy couldn't make it to the top three based upon her merits, Bravo and the producers changed the rules so that there are four finalists.
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