RGRRGR
February 4, 2005 - 01:15 PM
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I will be really angry if Wendy is not sent packing next week. Not, because she is a witch but bacause she is a BAD designer! She should have been eliminated after the first show! Obviously she has been kept on by the producers but enough is enough!
If Wendy is not eliminated next week I propose that we boycott not only the show but Bravo!
If Michael Kors does not get rid of Wendy BOYCOTT MICHAEL KORS!
BOYCOTT BANANA REPUBLICK!
BOYCOTT LOREAL PARIS!
BOYCOTT ELLE MAGAZINE!
Join with me Project Runway fans!!!
Kara, Jay, and Austin are the best and there is NO EXCUSE for Wendy being in the top three!
If she makes is in the top three it is an insult to us fans and to design!
You know they make medication for that....Its only a show.
DeeMaurice
February 4, 2005 - 01:22 PM
Hi I am new to this message board....but I am totally in disagreement with you about Jay's performance I think that he has definite potential I am definitely praying that Kara Saun takes it home but...I think that Jay should be in the Final three but more than that I just need Wendy to disappear. PLEASE GO AWAY I am amazed at her staying power, but I would have loved to see Vanessa here still.
DEE MAURICE!!!
lisakaz
February 4, 2005 - 01:23 PM
Actually, I thought the most stylish outfits were Austin's, if we are judging runway as runway, not commercially wearable. That red dress was gorgeous. So was the dark dress and the light one. That greyish suit looks interesting. Might be wearable.
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AuntieKrabby
February 4, 2005 - 01:24 PM
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If Wendy is not eliminated next week I propose that we boycott not only the show but Bravo!
If Michael Kors does not get rid of Wendy BOYCOTT MICHAEL KORS!
BOYCOTT BANANA REPUBLICK!
BOYCOTT LOREAL PARIS!
BOYCOTT ELLE MAGAZINE!
Join with me Project Runway fans!!!
Kara, Jay, and Austin are the best and there is NO EXCUSE for Wendy being in the top three!
If she makes is in the top three it is an insult to us fans and to design!
Going to pitch a fit if Wendy makes it? HOW GROWN UP.
I happen to like some of Wendy's stuff and I'm rooting for her ... TO WIN.
birdaileen
February 4, 2005 - 01:25 PM
is anyone else slightly irked (to say the least) that bravo couldnt get it together to show the pre-fashion week show before the show actually happened? and also, what is with changing the rules? not cool.
paillette
February 4, 2005 - 01:32 PM
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is anyone else slightly irked (to say the least) that bravo couldnt get it together to show the pre-fashion week show before the show actually happened? and also, what is with changing the rules? not cool.
Maybe it's all part of a plan?
Maybe they are trying to throw us off the track?
Maybe they expect us to access this info., but have more twists planned?
Huggycub35
February 4, 2005 - 01:33 PM
Jay is the judges second choice. Kara Saun is their first. Austin is not versatile enough to win the competition, but I think they recognize his talent and he will finish 3rd. He's been in the hot box a lot more than Jay.
Wendy sucks. I'm pretty sure she gets booted next week. I hope her and Melissa get booted. It's pretty obvious that both will do anything to win the competion.
angeedee
February 4, 2005 - 01:34 PM
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is anyone else slightly irked (to say the least) that bravo couldnt get it together to show the pre-fashion week show before the show actually happened? and also, what is with changing the rules? not cool.
Maybe it's all part of a plan?
Maybe they are trying to throw us off the track?
Maybe they expect us to access this info., but have more twists planned?
well, you know what kara says: "there's always a twist."
there has to be one in the last show, right?
angeedee
February 4, 2005 - 01:55 PM
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Jay is the judges second choice. Kara Saun is their first. Austin is not versatile enough to win the competition, but I think they recognize his talent and he will finish 3rd. He's been in the hot box a lot more than Jay.
Wendy sucks. I'm pretty sure she gets booted next week. I hope her and Melissa get booted. It's pretty obvious that both will do anything to win the competion.
LOL!!
too bad wendy wasn't willing to go to design school!!!
and i don't think she has shown that she's actually willing to do THE WORK to win the competition..........
but then again, i don't think she's capable of doing the work, either.
SleepyD
February 4, 2005 - 01:55 PM
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is anyone else slightly irked (to say the least) that bravo couldnt get it together to show the pre-fashion week show before the show actually happened? and also, what is with changing the rules? not cool.
"Irked (to say the least)"--yeah, an understatement. So, all four of the designers that they widdled down to make the Fashion Week runway, huh! Thank heavens Kara, Jay, and Austin made it, and weren't somehow pushed away by sabotage and high-drama crying tantrums (isn't this woman suppose to be 40 years old)!
Well, it looks like Wendy Pepper somehow dodged another big bullet, and talked her way out of her perpetual gunnysack. This totally destroys the credibility of the show and the producers and advertising sponsors for letting such a no talent get by for their coverage and sponsorship of the event. NOTE TO JACEDES: I'm judging her DESIGNS and overall quality of WORK! Not you--Not her personally, although she definitely has a personality and demeanor that truly lacks business savvy and ethics. Her designs and work both from her meeting the challenges on PR, her website, and now wireimage.com's spoiler images, all show someone with only a minimal amount of design innovation, no intuitive genius whatsoever, and very poor skills in construction, fit, and design appeal for high-fashion; and, I could go on because she is NOT a fashion designer--she is a dressmaker and tailor at best!
All I can say is by the fact that the images being dated today (2/4) that the actual winner has not been chosen, and the 3 true and actual "fashion designers" will prevail. Too bad the fourth representative was Wendy and not one of the others that had the talent and deserved the opportunity to showcase their work so much more.
angeedee
February 4, 2005 - 02:02 PM
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is anyone else slightly irked (to say the least) that bravo couldnt get it together to show the pre-fashion week show before the show actually happened? and also, what is with changing the rules? not cool.
"Irked (to say the least)"--yeah, an understatement. So, all four of the designers that they widdled down to make the Fashion Week runway, huh! Thank heavens Kara, Jay, and Austin made it, and weren't somehow pushed away by sabotage and high-drama crying tantrums (isn't this woman suppose to be 40 years old)!
Well, it looks like Wendy Pepper somehow dodged another big bullet, and talked her way out of her perpetual gunnysack. This totally destroys the credibility of the show and the producers and advertising sponsors for letting such a no talent get by for their coverage and sponsorship of the event. NOTE TO JACEDES: I'm judging her DESIGNS and overall quality of WORK! Not you--Not her personally, although she definitely has a personality and demeanor that truly lacks business savvy and ethics. Her designs and work both from her meeting the challenges on PR, her website, and now wireimage.com's spoiler images, all show someone with only a minimal amount of design innovation, no intuitive genius whatsoever, and very poor skills in construction, fit, and design appeal for high-fashion; and, I could go on because she is NOT a fashion designer--she is a dressmaker and tailor at best!
All I can say is by the fact that the images being dated today (2/4) that the actual winner has not been chosen, and the 3 true and actual "fashion designers" will prevail. Too bad the fourth representative was Wendy and not one of the others that had the talent and deserved the opportunity to showcase their work so much more.
well, i believe the final PR elminiation show was shot sometime last year, (Tim told us that the postal episode was shot in August) so the final three should have been chosen already, although apparently that didn't really happen.
i had high hopes for this series. i thought it would actually be based on talent.
although wendy's antics occasionally make me laugh, it's just not that interesting. it's like everything else. [expletive deleted]-hum. i just wish we had seen more about design and construction. i think that might have been very interesting to a lot of people.
iowahousewife
February 4, 2005 - 02:02 PM
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is anyone else slightly irked (to say the least) that bravo couldnt get it together to show the pre-fashion week show before the show actually happened? and also, what is with changing the rules? not cool.
AGREE! I am slightly irked that all along Bravo seems to have no rules and if there are rules or reasons they got rid of one person, by the next challenge those "rules" no longer apply whatsoever. (& definately not to Wendy) For the sake of tv and ratings - as has always, always, always been first and foremost on this show - Wendy will go to fashion week with Jay, Kara and Austin. They will be given a little scolding about "stepping it up a little" since Michael Kors is "underwhelmed" at their designs next week and all will be given a chance to redeem themselves at fashion week.
Maybe Bravo will give them all $100,000 or maybe in a surprising "twist", Heidi will keep it all to herself or they'll all four get to split it. Yeah - maybe that's it since $100,000 divides easily four ways.
We'll see!
RGRRGR
February 4, 2005 - 02:09 PM
Honestly though, we are talking BRAVO, they do not necessarily have the big budget the top three stations garner, so I doubt we can expect a "Who Shot JR" type of surprise.
ericats
February 4, 2005 - 02:11 PM
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is anyone else slightly irked (to say the least) that bravo couldnt get it together to show the pre-fashion week show before the show actually happened? and also, what is with changing the rules? not cool.
AGREE! I am slightly irked that all along Bravo seems to have no rules and if there are rules or reasons they got rid of one person, by the next challenge those "rules" no longer apply whatsoever. (& definately not to Wendy) For the sake of tv and ratings - as has always, always, always been first and foremost on this show - Wendy will go to fashion week with Jay, Kara and Austin. They will be given a little scolding about "stepping it up a little" since Michael Kors is "underwhelmed" at their designs next week and all will be given a chance to redeem themselves at fashion week.
Maybe Bravo will give them all $100,000 or maybe in a surprising "twist", Heidi will keep it all to herself or they'll all four get to split it. Yeah - maybe that's it since $100,000 divides easily four ways.
We'll see!
As Peaches72 pointed out on another thread, maybe we don't find out next week who are the top three and that the 4th designer is there as a decoy. It would make sense in order to extend the suspense of who are/is the top 3/winner but they have been saying all along that only 3 were going to fashion week.
KaraFan21
February 4, 2005 - 02:14 PM
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is anyone else slightly irked (to say the least) that bravo couldnt get it together to show the pre-fashion week show before the show actually happened? and also, what is with changing the rules? not cool.
Maybe they didn't actually change the rules, maybe one of the 4 showing their collections at fashion week is already out of the competition but they gave them the opportunity to show their stuff at fashion week so that we all wouldn't figure out who was eliminated when we saw the fashion week coverage.
angeedee
February 4, 2005 - 02:19 PM
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is anyone else slightly irked (to say the least) that bravo couldnt get it together to show the pre-fashion week show before the show actually happened? and also, what is with changing the rules? not cool.
AGREE! I am slightly irked that all along Bravo seems to have no rules and if there are rules or reasons they got rid of one person, by the next challenge those "rules" no longer apply whatsoever. (& definately not to Wendy) For the sake of tv and ratings - as has always, always, always been first and foremost on this show - Wendy will go to fashion week with Jay, Kara and Austin. They will be given a little scolding about "stepping it up a little" since Michael Kors is "underwhelmed" at their designs next week and all will be given a chance to redeem themselves at fashion week.
Maybe Bravo will give them all $100,000 or maybe in a surprising "twist", Heidi will keep it all to herself or they'll all four get to split it. Yeah - maybe that's it since $100,000 divides easily four ways.
We'll see!
good lord, Iowa. If they do that, what's the point.
You can't even start your own line with 100 grand, let alone 25.
i hope you're wrong about that, but who knows?????
It's clear this show isn't truly about selecting the best designers.
iowahousewife
February 4, 2005 - 02:25 PM
I know, Angeedee - it's crazy. I hope they wouldn't split up the money either, but you never know. With each episode I thought I could roughly pick out who was out based on design and challenge requirements ... NOT! Clearly, nothing is impossible here, but I am just glad that after all this talk of a surprise elimination and Wendy going on to fashion week that J, K, and A all get to show there stuff one way or another.
BoyzMom
February 4, 2005 - 02:30 PM
SPOILER ALERT!
Unfortunately, $25k each wouldn't go very far at all in launching your own line (even $100k will only get you through one or maybe two (frugally done) collections.
I personally think its all about BR. They simply couldn't have the person who won their design challenge be eliminated. Puke.
The real shame is that there were some very skilled designers AND technicians (those pleats Alexandra did are HARD TO DO!) who deserved to be there more - I'm thinking of Vanessa, Nora, Kevin and maybe even Alexandra.
I do think that Wendy looks much better now, the neat black suit and her hair, toned down makeup. But her collection is . . . underwhelming. Showing the model's breasts is an easy way out. Why not throw a sleek camisole underneath it so it doesn't look so sleazy? Same MO on her website. You don't have to go there to be successful! A couple of her designs were gorgeous, but I'd say her ratio is 10/90 hits/misses. Looks like Kara Saun is 90/10, Jay is 90/10 and Austin I'll say 80/20. (I'm not a huge fan of the wooley stuff.)
Here's what I would do differently for next season:
1 - Still have all the challenges but maybe have more designers actually make it to fashion week. (I would love to have seen an entire Kevin or Nora collection, even a Starr collection might have been interesting because she has a cute (albeit one-dimensional) style.)
2 - Show the final elimination show BEFORE fashion week lol.
3 - Keep the rules CONSISTENT. Don't let the producers have so much sway! You eliminate Nora and call her a 'dressmaker' then the next week keep Wendy in for a "swimsuit" that looked like a dress, couldn't/shouldn't get wet and had no bottom!
4 - When I was in design school (over 12 years ago - yikes!) we were required to take courses in tailoring, menswear, childrenswear, etc. I would like to see challenges that reflect those different genres. I bet Jay would do some kick-ass toddler clothes
5 - Show more of the actual design work. Have the designers talk about their inspiration as they're crafting the garments, let the audience know some of the technical details going on (as with Alexandra's pleats, Nora's materials and details were very difficult to craft, the details on Jay's Chrysler Building dress, Austin's swimsuit fabric, etc). I think they actually underplayed the difficulty level on some of these and people would see stuff walk down the runway and think, okay. But I know if I had $50 and 9 hours I couldn't even sew a pattern from McCall's, much less come up with a design myself that was runway-worthy!
paillette
February 4, 2005 - 02:31 PM
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Actually, I thought the most stylish outfits were Austin's, if we are judging runway as runway, not commercially wearable. That red dress was gorgeous. So was the dark dress and the light one. That greyish suit looks interesting. Might be wearable.
I thought Austin's "street" designs were good... the poufy dresses look like every other poufy dress, but the sheepskin (?) poncho and a couple of other things with pants were sort of interesting. The high waist was a new proportion we haven't seen in a while, with all the low-rise styles. I ended up being surprised by how well he does pants: I don't like his frou-frou party dresses, but when he does something that's not "special occasion" I tend to like it more.
Kara's designs are nice, wearable... a little like Michael Kors, actually. Stylish, tasteful clothes for a respectable bourgeois client: someone who wants to look good, but not necessarily be attention-grabbing. I think she will win because I think this is the design target the show wants.
Jays designs are very hip and downtown. I see him being popular with celebrities and tastemakers, and thus being in the public eye.
Wendy is there as payback for playing the "villain."
eddiecal
February 4, 2005 - 02:33 PM
Maybe the 4 designers showed their collection during fashion week because they did so bad at the last challenge (from what we could tell from the previews) that they decided at the last minute to keep all 4... I guess we'll have to wait until next week to know for sure
DotCrazy
February 4, 2005 - 02:39 PM
I'm so happy for Jay that someone is helping him get his big break. He defintely should of won the Banana Republic Episode, NOT wendy! That woman really ticks me off. She's such an actress it's not even funny. Oh well, but Jay - Congrats on the Bagutta Life store! You definitely deserve it! Keep on rocking your style!
anOutsider
February 4, 2005 - 02:45 PM
I calculated some statistics from the Runway Ratings. The averages give the following overall rating:
1. kara - 4.271
2. jay - 4.000
3. austin - 3.675
4. nora - 3.525
5. vanessa - 3.333
6. mario - 3.300
7. alexandra - 3.060
8. kevin - 2.957
9. robert - 2.714
10. wendy - 2.643
11. starr - 2.167
12. daniel - 1.500
There is also another way to count - to average the place of the designers in the Runway Ratings. In this case the ones that stay longer have an advantage since they cannot be too far back in a shorter list. Never the less, Wendy is again in the second half:
1. kara - 2.00
2. austin - 2.75
3. jay - 2.88
4. nora - 4.75
5. robert - 5.57
6. kevin - 5.71
7. wendy - 5.71
8. mario - 6.00
9. alexandra - 6.20
10. vanessa - 6.67
11. starr - 9.33
12. daniel - 12.00
Interesting, isn't it?
angeedee
February 4, 2005 - 02:50 PM
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I'm so happy for Jay that someone is helping him get his big break. He defintely should of won the Banana Republic Episode, NOT wendy! That woman really ticks me off. She's such an actress it's not even funny. Oh well, but Jay - Congrats on the Bagutta Life store! You definitely deserve it! Keep on rocking your style!
I believe that the only reason Jay did not win the BR challenge is because his design would have been too costly for BR to reproduce.
those pintucks are not difficult to do, but they are time consuming, if they are to be even and clean.
I don't know where BR has its clothes made (hopefully not in a banana republic sweatshop) but i'm pretty sure where ever it is they are paying peopel by the hour.
they don't want a design that will cost them a fortune to produce. cuts into their profit. wendy's design was easy, easy easy to reproduce.
angeedee
February 4, 2005 - 02:54 PM
I agree with you, boyzmom.
your run-down is how I would like the show to be, as well.
i have to tell you tho, that if you're on project runway apparently you don't NEED to produce anything that is runway-worthy.
nabakov5
February 4, 2005 - 02:58 PM
...just wanted to show up one more time and express my frustration that this show went on once kevin was gone...hooohuuuum...i still miss you kevin....kisses from the carolinas...
Kelly_Fair
February 4, 2005 - 03:07 PM
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Do you think that his friends did this as some sort of silly prank? It is hilarious and I highly recommend checking it out and not simply because of the PR link...mail-order brides!?! My question is can how do I order Kevin?
When you find out how to order Kevin, let me know! -.^
fastfashion
February 4, 2005 - 03:16 PM
I agree with tverow- WEndy has no talent- she's just in there for the trashy prom dress contingent in Virgie...
Veronique
February 4, 2005 - 03:50 PM
I like Austin's style. I like his dresses a lot, and even his gaucho/retro stuff. To me, Austin is fantasy. Get into one of his outfits and be transported into another world. I would like to wear his black dress and white shirt/gray trouser combination.
Jay, wonderful! Great street style. I'm 23 and I would love to wear his stuff on an every day basis. While Austint takes me to the land of fantasy, Jay grounds me in reality, but a cutting edge reality nevertheless. On my wish list: Jay's green outfit, number 4318203 from Wire.
Kara. Oh, Kara she has beautiful stuff. But I don't adore her. She'll win the competition and it's well deserved but I would much rather go wild with Jay or Austin. Kara though is reliable, classy and a definite pro. I would wear almost any of her dresses, specially 4320851.
Wendy. I thought her work at Fashion Week was much better than what we saw on the show. Ten times better. But she is still my least favourite designer, the most unoriginal and unremarkable one of the bunch. I would wear outfit 4320799 with the flowy skirt.
DeViL44
February 4, 2005 - 03:54 PM
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I will be really angry if Wendy is not sent packing next week. Not, because she is a witch but bacause she is a BAD designer! She should have been eliminated after the first show! Obviously she has been kept on by the producers but enough is enough!
If Wendy is not eliminated next week I propose that we boycott not only the show but Bravo!
If Michael Kors does not get rid of Wendy BOYCOTT MICHAEL KORS!
BOYCOTT BANANA REPUBLICK!
BOYCOTT LOREAL PARIS!
BOYCOTT ELLE MAGAZINE!
Join with me Project Runway fans!!!
Kara, Jay, and Austin are the best and there is NO EXCUSE for Wendy being in the top three!
If she makes is in the top three it is an insult to us fans and to design!
You know they make medication for that....Its only a show.
Well...I hate to break it to ya, but unfortunately I think Wendy's going to win. Im sorry. Either she wins, or she stays. I seriously think either Austin or Kara will be sent home, regardless of there talent, the judges say it will be a "surprise" elimination..meaning PROBABLY and most likely the most talented designer will be eliminated. Now, iv already explained more than once why Wendy is my favorite and why her intentions OR actions are defensive according to me.
But, as for saying she sucks as a designer is still making me wonder. I respect everyone's opinion, and if anyone hates Wendy, and thinks she's a horrible designer, im ok with it. I will not try to defend her, but I have before just to express what my thoughts were on her and why she did this or that. Now, I want to express what I thought of her designs on project runway according to the CHALLENGE...not too much how great it looks, although that will also depend a little bit. So here's my opinion:
CHALLENGE 1: INNOVATION / 5/10
Personally, I thought this challenge was one of the most difficult of all challenges. It required the acts of designing a good wardrobe out of hoisehold items and stuff. Now, as for Wendy's design, it wasn't the best. I, however thought she expressed a LOT of creativity in it. Many of you may disagree, but she has taken "candy"...I'll repeat CANDY, and still make a woman look sexy and fashionable. I personnaly thought Wendy made Josiane look pretty delicious, but anyways, lol...I thought the wardrobe was very artistic, creative and somewhat wearable, but not TOO much up there. It WAS sexy though. The flaws on this wardrobe was basically that the bottom peice of the bathing suit looking wardrobe was actual fabric. In this challenge, you weren't supposed to use fabric-related type material, and Wendy failed to accomplish this. But, it makes up with artistic and unique sense of creativity using candy. I thought it looked brilliant, and the balloons finished the look.
CHALLENGE 2: COTTON CHALLENGE / 9/10
Ok, I seriously thought this outfit was one of her most amazing. As she explains in her website, she the whole look was somewhat Huate Couture, and she finished the wardrobe off by dying the bottom, giving it a somehat "burnt" look to it to symbolize whatever she was trying to go for. I liked it a lot, and it was DIFFERENT. It showed a lot of talent. The top portion of the dress was unique. It featured rope-like shape around the neck, and lining the breast-covers matching the huate couture green, feathered mask which I adored. The look was very cool, and the ruffles finished it off at the bottom.
CHALLENGE 3: BANANA REPUBLIC CHALLENGE / 10/10
Clearly, and obviously the one of the best of Wendy's designs. The Banana Republic design was brilliant, well thought out, and PERFECT. I loved the navy colored silk, and the whole classic, retro glamour of it. It almost looked like an innocent, but sexy and fashionable little red riding hood in a somehat different form. The bag completed the look as Wendy had said, and made a great matching accessory to it. I loved it.
CHALLENGE 4: COLLABORATION / n/a
Ok, this design wasn't really Wendy's...it was Austin's. The challenge was to collaborate and make an outfit most appealing to that rock star chick. Austin failed to do that because of the color, and hair style of the dress as well as the basic style of the dress I suppose. Kevin won. Wendy haden't really spoken in that challenge so im guessing she didn't put any input or design ideas.
CHALLENGE 5: WEDDING DRESS CHALLENGE / 9/10
Personally...this was one of MY favorite challenges, and Wendy made a work of art. I liked this wedding dress a lot, but it wasn't my favorite...however it still deserves a 9/10 because number 1...her customer (model) loved the outfit like Wendy had said on her website, and number 2...the look of it features all the things the model wanted: Red, and a flowy-type skirt. And it included just that with some style that WEndy had made. I loved the whole "one strap coming from in between the breasts" look. It was unique and could probably become a new trend for wedding designs...The corset was perfect, and the gown was pretty decent. She would have had a 10 from me if she won the challenge.
CHALLENGE 6: SWIMSUIT CHALLENGE / 6.5/10
This challenge was also unique in it's own way. I thought Wendy's design could have been a BIT better, but it still came out decent enough. I loved the color Wendy used in this challenge. It flowed, and was very elegant looking. It also had the colors of the sun with a tint of red in it. Now, the reason I gave it a 6.5 was because...on the positive side, the design was successfully very good and had GREAT textile coloring and accessory. On the negative side, the swimsuit doesn't have the actual bottom portion of the suit...THAT cut off lots of points right there. Now, of course WEndy doesn't know how to really make bathing suits, so she obviosuly didin't know how to make a thong, or bottom peice...but it's still no excuse. Plus, she didin't win and was one of the lower designs in this challenge by the judges.
CHALLENGE 7: DESIGNING A COLLECTION / 4.5/10
Ok, I admit that I liked this design a LOT...but im basing my scores on input by the judges, the challenge, AND the style of it. Judges...she was rated as one of the lower designs in this challenge...as a matter of fact, the second from the most horrible...Kevin's. The Challenge...challenge was to create a line which featured designs from the year 2055 that all looked like they belonged in the same line together. Wendy's looked very different from everyone elses and that detucted some points. The style of it however kept the 4.5 a bit...I love the style. It's very stylish, and anyone could wear it. But...the challenge wasn't really who had the most stylish. Wendy DID sew up a "sorta" deconstructed look...but it failed to fit in the line.
CHALLENGE 8: POSTAL UNIFORM CHALLENGE / 7/10
Ok, many of you may disagree with me on this lol, but I thought the design was alright. This challenge was to create a comfortable, AND stylish postal service uniform in a re-designed version. Wendy didin't fail TOO MUCH on the style of the outfit. I liked the style. She made the shirt look sexy and form fitting for a female mail service person. It sculpted perfectly around the stomach and breasts, and the shorts were ok. The shoes...in my opinion, could have been white or blue...not red. But she still put input on the style. As for comfortable...she didin't fail too much on that either. The pockets were an issue...yes, but the shorts let air in through the legs, and featured a belt for supplies and a custom made bag as well. I didin't think this design was bad at all and I would agree that this design WOULD probably be the one chosen for the summer...while Kara's would be chosen for the winter.
lisakaz
February 4, 2005 - 03:58 PM
Well, it depends upon the explanation, I suppose. I do see it as a BR manipulation to keep Wendy in there, but it could be better than having the producers or BR force out a real talent (Kara/Jay or Austin) to make someone else happy that Wendy stays in. It could be a trick but I kinda doubt someone would design a whole collection that wasn't being judged. I am appalled however that she even got there. Kevin, Vanessa, Alexandra -- any of them would have been far more fabulous than what the cat dragged in...
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Veronique
February 4, 2005 - 04:04 PM
Devil44...I think you're Wendy...lol
No that was a joke, but seriously Wendy was just consistently worse than most of the designers.
Her innovation outfit was bad, not the worst, but just bad.
Her BR design was good and her weddind dress was OK, but she is not the besr designers in the show. Kara surpases her, Jay surpases her and even Austin surpases her.
If you look at the judges,in most challenges she got a low score.
If you look at the popular vote, her scores aren't too high either.
I'm sorry, but Wendy just doesn't have it. At Fashion Week her work was far better than I would have imagined but it would completely unfair to eliminate Kay, Kara or Austin when they have been more consistent in their work and have done a better job overall.
Wendy is just fourth place and that's it.
Btw...Austin should lay off the makeup. He looks a lot nicer without it.
lisakaz
February 4, 2005 - 04:08 PM
I totally agree. I just saw an image from "Getty" that showed Nora and Robert in the first row looking at one of Kara's designs.
lk
DeViL44
February 4, 2005 - 04:16 PM
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Devil44...I think you're Wendy...lol
No that was a joke, but seriously Wendy was just consistently worse than most of the designers.
Her innovation outfit was bad, not the worst, but just bad.
Her BR design was good and her weddind dress was OK, but she is not the besr designers in the show. Kara surpases her, Jay surpases her and even Austin surpases her.
If you look at the judges,in most challenges she got a low score.
If you look at the popular vote, her scores aren't too high either.
I'm sorry, but Wendy just doesn't have it. At Fashion Week her work was far better than I would have imagined but it would completely unfair to eliminate Kay, Kara or Austin when they have been more consistent in their work and have done a better job overall.
Wendy is just fourth place and that's it.
Btw...Austin should lay off the makeup. He looks a lot nicer without it.
I respect you're opinion, and I admit that Kara is better than Wendy on all levels. But as for Jay and Austin...im not quite sure. It mostly had to do with the challenges...and I have a qeustion. I keep seeing people type "Wendy's designs were better on fashion week"...
Ok, WERE DID YOU SEE HER DESIGNS ON FASHION WEEK?? I gotta know...I haven't seen it yet. Wasn't it supposed to air next Wednesday!!?????? Im just really confused right now as to how you got to watch or see her show without it playing yet on television. I hope they repeat w/e I missed...
I was expecting her to make it to fashion week anyways, and the reason why her designs were probably better than anything on the show was cuz she was comfortable a bit more as to what she focused on, and she probably had a LOT more time making the wardrobes than she did in the show...
lisakaz
February 4, 2005 - 04:18 PM
I hear ya. I don't know how they propose to judge this. Jay and Austin both seem to excel in a haute couture way. I like Austin's feminine touches. I loved his BR dress, even if I've become too old for it now.
I really like that grey suit. I think I could lecture in it.
lk
Veronique
February 4, 2005 - 04:21 PM
If you look around getty images or wireimage.com you'll find them. All four of the designers had collections on Fashion Week.
I don't have anything against Wendy, I just think Kara is no1, Jay is 2 because he is so innovative and modern (specially the BR dress but also the swimsuit), Austin is 3 because although he is retro he has a talent for beautiful clothing (the swimsuit, the corn dress, the BR).
Wendy was not the worst designer but just has to settle for number 4 in my book. But you should try to find some pics of Fashion Week. Everyone had some very nice outfits and I would efinitely pick one from each collection to wear!
lisakaz
February 4, 2005 - 04:23 PM
I wonder if some of that "technical support" helped make Wendy somewhat presentable today. I doubt she could do it on her own.
lk
lisakaz
February 4, 2005 - 04:24 PM
Look back a few pages. Some images places online have showed stuff from fashion week online today, like wireimages.com.
lk
lisakaz
February 4, 2005 - 04:26 PM
Sorry, wireimage.com.
lk
Chinchilla3
February 4, 2005 - 04:45 PM
I just saw the pictures on WireImage.com from Fashion Week and...WOW! Everyones designs were beautiful! I have no idea how there are gonna decide: everyone is so different!
Austin's designs are so glamorous and so 1980's "Dynasty", Kara's stuff is all so polished and seems like she should have definitely been a huge designer YEARS ago, Jay's stuff is so spacey (in a good way!) and colorful and fun, and Wendy's stuff is so beautiful, colorful, versitile, and seems like stuff that could be altered to different types of women.
I love Wendy and her designs, but I think Kara should win this. Hopefully her style matches BR's.
Also, I wish Wendy wouldn't have made herself look "normal" for fashion week. I loved the crazed designing witch look.
roses1
February 4, 2005 - 04:59 PM
I can't view the pics at WireImage.com. The site makes you register to view them?? I'm speculating because every time I enter Project Runway in their search engine, I get nothing.
The pics on editorial.gettyimages.com are too tiny for me to see any details. I keep getting an "error on the page"
message and can't figure out why other than I have to be a
member. :-(
I can't tell who made what by Wire Images pics, but whoever made that red long gown should be flogged. It looks like a cheap saloon dress! Then again, I can only see it in a very small picture.
Most of the low-cut dresses look like Kara's stuff and they're all pretty.
Oh well, I hope they show all of the designs during the big finale!
paillette
February 4, 2005 - 05:03 PM
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I hear ya. I don't know how they propose to judge this. Jay and Austin both seem to excel in a haute couture way. I like Austin's feminine touches. I loved his BR dress, even if I've become too old for it now.
I really like that grey suit. I think I could lecture in it.
lk
My experience teaching at a large university is that students respond very positively to professors who have a little flair. Too many female profs. still wear ill-fitting sweaters and dirndls! Yet one of the advantages of the profession, to my mind, is that we don't have to dress like bankers -- we can be more adventurous.
Though that suit isn't my personal style, I'd bet your students would love to see it on you!
lisakaz
February 4, 2005 - 05:04 PM
I didn't register. The getty ones do allow for more detail enlarging. Maybe your computer doesn't support how they transfer them. I have a DSL line. I couldn't blow up the wireimage ones but they had useful captions before getty said anything.
lk
JustTzujIt
February 4, 2005 - 05:08 PM
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If Wendy is not eliminated next week I propose that we boycott not only the show but Bravo!
Uh... and miss my Queer Eye for the Straight Guy and Weekly West Wing Marathons?
Personally, I think by the "surprise elimination" they mean just that: SURPRISE! THERE'S NO ELIMINATION!
Chinchilla3
February 4, 2005 - 05:13 PM
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I can't tell who made what by Wire Images pics, but whoever made that red long gown should be flogged.
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lol I think thats Austins dress you're talking about, most of his other stuff was gorgeous though. A good way to tell the different stuff apart is this: Austin's stuff is all over the top and very old movie-ish, all Jay's models wore colorful headphone/earmuff type things, Kara's stuff was all rather sleek and kinda sorta D&G-ish, and Wendy's stuff seemed to be very wealthy southern debutantish with a twist-like.
I forgot to mention this in my other post-Austin looked really hot at FW! He should definitely tone it down some. As far as his personal look, I think less is more.
lisakaz
February 4, 2005 - 05:14 PM
I wonder if he'd make it in a size 8. I love the sleeves. Reminds me of historical wear with cravats and such. I bought a suit from a vintage store than was Edwardian. Couldn't find the right hat for, though. That one little black bowler number Austin had on that vested number (I think) would work. As a historian, I find Austin has a certain postmodern pastiche to "history of fashion" that I like. He plays with history, I think. The Edwardian suit I wore as a costume. That grey suit wouldn't need be one, though. I love the buttons and the fringe. It looks like it'd be comfortable, depending on what the fabric is.
I definitely don't dress like a banker. I used to dress like a grad student but students complained (I was wondering why are they paying attention to what I wear rather than what I'm talking about). I used to wear a black velvet pant suit to interviews. I went for stuff I found at a Kaspar outlet this year, one matched with a Michael Kors blouse that was way marked down at Lord & Taylor. Gotta be thifty! I don't get modeling dough, after all.
lk
paillette
February 4, 2005 - 05:15 PM
Some time ago, I made a comparison between Austin & Jay, in which I suggested that Jay flourished best in a collaborative atmosphere, and Austin likely would succeed best in an unfettered setting. I think the runway pics. have borne this out.
Austin's fashion week designs are, in my opinion, far superior to anything he did on the show. Get him away from a party dress and he actually can do something that's NOT Doris Day!
Jay's fashion week designs are very good, but I look back at some of his collaborative or constrained designs on the show and think they may have been a little more interesting. I really like the lavender-purple dress we see today, and some of the separates, too, but there's nothing there I like as much as his wedding dress for Morganza.
Of course, it's very hard to tell from the little thumbnails and I reserve the right to change my mind once I see a better presentation. Morganza's dress also wouldn't look like much in a 1" x 1 1/2' picture.
lisakaz
February 4, 2005 - 05:16 PM
I got a more detailed look at the red dress of Austin's and it is beautiful, in a haute couture way. I've definitely seen worse on the red carpet in the past year by actresses trying to wear couture.
lk
lisakaz
February 4, 2005 - 05:20 PM
I agree with you on Morganza's wedding dress. It was gorgeous. Definitely a win-win design (for her idea and for Jay). It seemed to me to lose some of its character on the website here where on TV it seemed stunning. I bet in person it was even better.
Maybe Jay flourishes when directed or limited in some sense. He focuses his creativity. I hope he has a great future. He has much to offer.
lk
Veronique
February 4, 2005 - 05:22 PM
Go to gettyimages.com
Click on editorial
In the search menu select "entertainment" then type project runway. You'll get thumbnails that can be expanded to large pics.
roses1
February 4, 2005 - 05:25 PM
Would anyone be able to tell me how to avoid that "error on page" message when I try to click on those tiny pics at the gety site?
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
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