Velouria
February 7, 2005 - 01:07 PM
CNN's website has images from Fashion Week and reveals the three finalists by showing some of their creations. Go to www.cnn.com and click on the Fashion Week hyperlink.
Eve889
February 7, 2005 - 01:11 PM
some spoiler space:
I looked at the photos on CNN and then Gettyimages. I just wish they'd picked a different outfit of Kara Saun's to show on Cnn then that brown/pink thing. She had must better designs in the show.
I liked pretty much all the collections. But I was a little disappointed by Austin's outfits -- the dresses were wonderful (especially the blue one), but to me at least, all his stuff seemed created for a period piece than a modern runway show.
Strut
February 7, 2005 - 01:11 PM
Okay I saw pictures of all four designers at Fashion Week. All four!!! what does this mean???? Not at Gettyimages either...
sassychic
February 7, 2005 - 01:21 PM
Go to www.newyorkmetro.com. Click link under designer's bio for Project Runway. Notice whose designs are missing? Go to www.wireimage.com. You'll notice all the designer's collection to look at, but look at the individual designer listing. There is one name missing. The same one whose collection is missing on New York Metro.
sarahcatherine
February 7, 2005 - 01:27 PM
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Go to www.newyorkmetro.com. Click link under designer's bio for Project Runway. Notice whose designs are missing? Go to www.wireimage.com. You'll notice all the designer's collection to look at, but look at the individual designer listing. There is one name missing. The same one whose collection is missing on New York Metro.
There does seem to be a collection missing at New York Metro, but as for the other site, there are *two* names missing from the list on the side, not just one.
birdaileen
February 7, 2005 - 01:46 PM
hey is anyone worried that the surprise elimination might be kara? if they judge the grammy one JUST on that challenge, and ignore her strong standing in the past, i feel like she might be the one to go. her grammy dress looks like it has pant-legs and fits in a strange way. i cant see it that clearly from the preview, but enough to make me a little worried.
wendy's short orange dress looks like a rip-off of something she's already designed. look on her website under her "couture" section. you'll see which one i mean.
sassychic
February 7, 2005 - 01:48 PM
No, there is one. I thought so, too, till gave it a closer look. look under the letter "p" not "w."
birdaileen
February 7, 2005 - 01:49 PM
correction-- go to "Collections" and click on "Haute Couture" and it is the 9th sketch down.
angeedee
February 7, 2005 - 01:49 PM
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IS SHE KIDDING ME??!! SHE'S WONDERING WHY??!! Wendy, if you are reading this, GO BACK AND WATCH EVERY EPISODE AND PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT YOU SPEW FROM YOUR OWN MOUTH! What, did editors put friggin' little microphones in there and say all that crap via remote? YOU SAID IT YOURSELF! Now you're wondering why you're loathed so much? Unbelieveable!
lol Mr. Bear, you're gonna give yourself a heart attack one of these days.
i think wendy needs some professional counseling.
there are terms for people who are unable to accept responsibility for their own actions.
my favorite comment of hers was that "for whatever reason, some people just don't like me."
that had me howling.....................
angeedee
February 7, 2005 - 01:53 PM
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I have to agree with you unless it's a way to trick us. But if it is true, I wouldn't watch show again. It would just tell me it's fixed. Plus if it is true, we won't see that collection aired ever. Only the three. That would truly show how much this show would be about ratings, fixing the results, not really wanting to find good designer's to test their skills. Bravo could make up for it by showing that particular designer's collection.
but you know what?
Bravo never shows us enough of the clothes!
They spend so much time on the blah blah blah that we don't get to see the finished products except on the runway, and half of the camera time is given to the designer's face or the judge writing on a card.
even the photos are the web sometimes make it impossible to catch all the detail in the garments.
I wish they would show us a collection, that would be great!
sarahcatherine
February 7, 2005 - 02:03 PM
Weird, why would they not use the full name? Sloppy.
That's interesting, but you know...the more I read about all the different articles and rumors, the more I think that they're deliberately putting as much conflicting things out there as possible, to make it impossible to know who's in and who's out.
We'll just have to wait until Wednesday to know for sure, I guess. Stupid waiting. Bah.
angeedee
February 7, 2005 - 02:05 PM
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hey is anyone worried that the surprise elimination might be kara? if they judge the grammy one JUST on that challenge, and ignore her strong standing in the past, i feel like she might be the one to go. her grammy dress looks like it has pant-legs and fits in a strange way. i cant see it that clearly from the preview, but enough to make me a little worried.
wendy's short orange dress looks like a rip-off of something she's already designed. look on her website under her "couture" section. you'll see which one i mean.
well, if kara is eliminated wednesday, i think we will all know that we have been had.
unless she is some kind of mole or something stupid like that. whooooooo. THAT'S never been done. except on the last bravo "reality" show. and all the other ones. yawn.
i guess i just expect more from the network that gave us queer eye.
LilibetP
February 7, 2005 - 02:07 PM
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Go to www.newyorkmetro.com. Click link under designer's bio for Project Runway. Notice whose designs are missing? Go to www.wireimage.com. You'll notice all the designer's collection to look at, but look at the individual designer listing. There is one name missing. The same one whose collection is missing on New York Metro.
Maybe I'm blind, but I see all four of them.
Lilibet
angeedee
February 7, 2005 - 02:18 PM
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Go to www.newyorkmetro.com. Click link under designer's bio for Project Runway. Notice whose designs are missing? Go to www.wireimage.com. You'll notice all the designer's collection to look at, but look at the individual designer listing. There is one name missing. The same one whose collection is missing on New York Metro.
Maybe I'm blind, but I see all four of them.
Lilibet
are you looking at the 40 images?
if so, you might want to look again, because one designers clothes are missing.
if you're looking elsewhere, tell us where!
lisakaz
February 7, 2005 - 02:18 PM
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I got it paused on my TiVo. I'm trying to see how much reflects from the bathroom mirror...lol. Heh, BEEFCAKE!
lk
Omg! You are so bad! LOL
Gotta have a hobby! LOL.
lisakaz
February 7, 2005 - 02:20 PM
I think if Rob had added a utility belt and/or put pockets on the blouse, you-know-who woulda been history.
lk
lisakaz
February 7, 2005 - 02:22 PM
Amen TTB! And Robbio has better buns! LOL.
lk
Chinchilla3
February 7, 2005 - 02:23 PM
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According to CNN the top three are Kara, Jay and Wendy??? What the heck is going on? When this show started and into the first 5 episodes I thought this would be one show where the judging would be done based on the talent displayed and not for rating purposes....I was wrong. How in the hell can Wendy be placed in the top three position over Austin when 99.99% of her work was total crap? Austin has won the competition three times second to Kara and yet he is not included? If Heidi wants to continue on a winning streak then the reality show shocking / evil crap must be eliminated and talent must be placed first. Damn is anything these days fair?
No offense, but stop your whining. This is a reality television show where the judges make their decisions based on the the individual challenges, not the potential they have to create better. If Austin was eliminated, he must have made something which the judges did not like (from what I've seen from the preview, the purple dress doesn't look too hot, but maybe it will look better when I get to see it for an extended period of time on Wednesday?).
No matter who wins or who is eliminated, I highly doubt any of them will fade into the shadows because I think they are all talented people, and three out of the four of them have been in the fashion business for years already. If Austin doesn't win, like a ton of other people have already said: he is only 23 and designing clothes like an aged pro! I have no doubt he will be something big in the years to come.
I guess my point is chill out, watch the show, and enjoy it for the entertainment it is.
LilibetP
February 7, 2005 - 02:23 PM
are you looking at the 40 images? if so, you might want to look again, because one designers clothes are missing.
if you're looking elsewhere, tell us where!
You'll need to cut and paste. http://www.wireimage.com/GalleryListing.as...ld=&evntI=1152&
nbc1=1&sortval=1a&PageNum=2
As to the other one, I now see what you mean!
Lilibet
lisakaz
February 7, 2005 - 02:26 PM
That's why I won't watch on Wednesday, since it seems fairly clear who's going to get the boot. And it ain't Cruella.
lk
angeedee
February 7, 2005 - 02:27 PM
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I looked at the photos on CNN and then Gettyimages. I just wish they'd picked a different outfit of Kara Saun's to show on Cnn then that brown/pink thing. She had must better designs in the show.
I liked pretty much all the collections. But I was a little disappointed by Austin's outfits -- the dresses were wonderful (especially the blue one), but to me at least, all his stuff seemed created for a period piece than a modern runway show.
here's something for the austinites, found it on a blog:
""Last night, a commenter on my original entry had this to say about Austin—
"I went to school with him. I graduated in 1998 with his sister, Jesslyn. I'm 24...he's two years older than us. I'd like to know why he says he's 23. I was in the 6th grade when he was an 8th grader. He's always been into designing. I'm pretty sure he was the costume designer for all our school productions. I felt so bad for him. I remember in '96 when he was graduating, everyone thought it would be funny to vote him for prom king. I think he won it, but there was a rumor going around school that he was going to show up in a dress he designed. He didn't. His date showed up in a dress he designed for her."
You see, Austin is both a lady and a gentleman. Now that's class!"""
sarahcatherine
February 7, 2005 - 02:28 PM
I tend to agree. While I think the pants into shorts idea is a good one for the most part (I have bad connotations with them as an ex used to wear the zipped off leg part as a hat...not the pants fault, but still) it's the *only* function he addressed. Maybe a utility belt *and* pockets might have saved him, but his design was also far too casual and is it just me or did his shirt look gray instead of blue?
I also think that the guest judge actually liked Wendy's design, not over Kara's, of course, but definetely over Roberts and Austins, and possibly Jay's. But then, she was all about function, which makes sense given her point of view.
sarahcatherine
February 7, 2005 - 02:31 PM
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You'll need to cut and paste. http://www.wireimage.com/GalleryListing.asp?
navtyp=GLS====&str=&styp=&sfld=&evntI=1152&
nbc1=1&sortval=1a&PageNum=2
As to the other one, I now see what you mean!
All four have links within the page, but on the left side where the "celebrities" are listed, one name is absent. And one name is only given in part...which is still bugging me.
angeedee
February 7, 2005 - 02:35 PM
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I tend to agree. While I think the pants into shorts idea is a good one for the most part (I have bad connotations with them as an ex used to wear the zipped off leg part as a hat...not the pants fault, but still) it's the *only* function he addressed. Maybe a utility belt *and* pockets might have saved him, but his design was also far too casual and is it just me or did his shirt look gray instead of blue?
I also think that the guest judge actually liked Wendy's design, not over Kara's, of course, but definetely over Roberts and Austins, and possibly Jay's. But then, she was all about function, which makes sense given her point of view.
was it my imagination, or did robio's sketch have a jacket?
i thought it did, although we only saw it for an instant.
i wondered if he got stalled like he did in the BR challenge, and went in too many directions to finish his entire ensemble.......???????
Chinchilla3
February 7, 2005 - 02:36 PM
All four have links within the page, but on the left side where the "celebrities" are listed, one name is absent. And one name is only given in part...which is still bugging me.
Okay, Wednesday needs to come...right now.
lisakaz
February 7, 2005 - 02:37 PM
Good point. The 3 we think should have been the final 3 will all go on to have legitimate designing careers. And some of those eliminated, too -- like Kevin will have his own show tomorrow, I think. The 100K wouldn't make Cruella a bankable label and BR probably can't turn that sow's ear into a silk purse. So, we hope (and have to trust) that Kara or Jay won. Both deserving, though maybe it'd hurt Jay to be hemmed in by a store not partial to his hipness. Maybe they'd both win from the partnership. So, I don't know how BR will see things. I think the winner will depend on who BR would rather work with; both are extremely deserving.
I think Austin will land on his feet. Since he has a built in audience here, someone smart should snap him up -- like whoever considers themselves in competition with BR, for example. LOL. But I could see Ralph Lauren liking some of those western-style clothes Austin did, too.
lk
4seasons
February 7, 2005 - 02:42 PM
OMG! I just saw the photos of Jay's collection at Fashion Week and his work is AMAZING!!! I thought that Kara Saun would win but after seeing all the collections I definitely think that Jay will win. I'm REALLY disappointed that Austin didn't make the final three. Wendy over Austin? No way. Wendy's designs are horrible and she's a POOR sport and not a team player. This is a complete JOKE. Wendy SHOULD have been eliminated at least 3 times before the final challenge. Wonder if winning the Banana Republic design had anything to do with the final 3. Banana Republic having a design by one of the Project Runway designer who didn't make Fashion Week. What an outrage! Week after week Austin had much stronger designs. Wendy's were falling apart all the time. This all seems rather suspect. Week after week of the judges complaining that Wendy's designs were matronly, dowdy, farty (Michael Kors) there is no way for her to place in the final three. I'm completely disgusted with Project Runway. I wonder how the OTHER designers feel about Wendy making the final three. Guess when the final episode airs we will finally get to hear Austin's side of the story. Shame on Bravo!
Chinchilla3
February 7, 2005 - 02:45 PM
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Good point. The 3 we think should have been the final 3 will all go on to have legitimate designing careers. And some of those eliminated, too -- like Kevin will have his own show tomorrow, I think. The 100K wouldn't make Cruella a bankable label and BR probably can't turn that sow's ear into a silk purse.
Be nice to my Wendy, lol.
Is it Kara that gets eliminated?! (rhetorical - I know you all are thinking "how in hell would we know?") Her outfit looked pretty bad! I have become completely obsessed with this show! This is like my third frickin' post today!
Damn you, Bravo. Damn you.
oscar
February 7, 2005 - 02:49 PM
OK - - who is being honest about Wendy's designs.
She annoys the hell out of me - - - but looking at her designs without anti-emotional bias - - - I find some of them quite interesting.
. . . and from the photos - - I did not care for Austin's designs on a personal level.
BUT - - in person - considering construction - presentation - etc - that professionals look for - Austin's creations might be far superior to Wendy's.
BUT - - I still think Wendy fits BR better then Austin - - so as I stated in an earlier post - - I expected Austin to be eliminated and Wendy to be in the top 3.
Strut
February 7, 2005 - 03:07 PM
If you go to www.seattlepi.com, click on NYC fashions, then click on "Finalists" in the lift panel that pops up you'll see designs by all four designers at New York Fashion Week.
sassychic
February 7, 2005 - 03:07 PM
This will really bug you. When I first checked out that sight it had the FULL name. Now, it's just the last name. New design name? i know...gag at the thought of it.
roses1
February 7, 2005 - 03:24 PM
I was just at the Wire Images site and all 4 finalists' pictures were there. Bravo is playing with us, big time! The amount of press they're getting is a producer's dream.
I read one account yesterday (sorry, I can't remember the web site) that Jay was eliminated. When you think of about the challenges and the remaining four, he's the only one who didn't win any. He came in close, but that only counts in horseshoes.
I really liked Austin's designs and a few of Wendy's were okay, but Kara Saun's were disappointing.
See you all here on Wednesday. I'm sure we'll be surprised now no matter what happens. lol
DeViL44
February 7, 2005 - 04:09 PM
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So sorry, Devil - that we didn't all listen when you lectured us with previous posts. We are all entitled to our opinion, whether you agree with it or not. You have every right to cheer Wendy on - to feel she has been wrongfully chastized - whatever.
Not everyone here hates her based on the two reasons you assume... Austin or Kevin. I do not care for her because from the very first episode she said that all she cared about was going to Fashion Week and that she would do whatever it took to get there. She has been scheming from the beginning. I do not see any of the other designers manipulating and undermining eachother. Wendy may have told "the truth" as you say it when asked about Kevin's leadership, but I ask you.... If it was so honest and pure why then did she point out how mean it was on her OWN website? Did you go to wendypepper.com after that episode? She flat out said that she felt weak and resorted to attacking Kevin to stay afloat. She also said that she wasn't proud of it, but felt it was necessary to move on at that point. Another thing - if Nora had made it this far and continued to whine and cry and throw fits... I'm sure she'd be all over this board. If Wendy really deserved to be here or at the very least had she been "acting" (because I'm sure that's what it would take) like a mature professional in the process, we would not all have our undergarments in wedgy over her!! The designers all have their opinions of eachother and eachothers work and we are fine with that because they are not using those opinions to undermine any other designer.
Also - I don't think Jay drew the mustache on Wendy's photo. Whoever drew the mustache, I don't think that was called for, but I would seriously guess that it was a producer or camera person trying to up the drama level. I don't think Wendy deserved it by any means, but here's some honesty for you - I did enjoy watching her cry and play the whole "Poor picked on me.... WHO would do such a thing to me..." after all the mean comments she's made about all the others. (or should I say "yahoo's" as Wendy refers to them?) Anyway, sue me - I hate Wendy Pepper and any other coniving, manipulating, two-faced person that will step on others and do whatever it takes to get to the top.
Ok...let me repeat myself just to make sure people understood me before, because again...my opinion on Wendy was ignored once again on the Kevin/WEndy issue:
Thank you for telling your opinion on Wendy. I respect all your opinions on her and anyone else here who has opinions on her. Im sorry if I kinda blew up in my previous post. I didn’t mean too, so I apologize. I mean no harm on these boards because I like talking on here a lot. But, yea, I respect your opinions on her, and the reason why iv been defending Wendy, is just cuz I like to express my personal opinions on her. That’s all. I don’t want to offend anyone here though.
But, back on subject. Ok. Like iv said in my previous post, iv already explained ina huge paragraph why I thought The Kevin and Wendy issue wasn’t wrong. I don’t really know if anyone caught it, but it’s quite a few pages back n this message board. If you want to see it you can, but just for the sake of this topic, I’ll repeat myself as well as express a few more opinions on the topic. Just, please…read it carefully so you can see what I mean. Just trust me, im not trying to offend anyone, nor say you are right or wrong, or Wendy was right or wrong, this is all just MY opinion on what was going on in her head.
Ok, so here I go.
Basically Wendy spoke her opinion on Kevin’s leadership and ousted his flaws of being the leader in this challenge. The challenge was to create garments from the year 2055 that all matched and look liked they belonged in the same line, however, Wendy pointed out that it did not match and that Kevin could have been active a bit more and could have made sure the construction and designs of the garments all fitted together in one line as well as making sure of the time in order to make the “pod coat.” The facts that Wendy gave about a “line” was correct. She was right about how a fashion show should all match and tell a story as one garment walks down to another. However, the team failed to do this. Now let’s get to the point. First off, in my personal OPINION, I think that Kevin would have been eliminated wether or not Wendy exploited his so-called bad leadership or not. If you payed attention to what the judges had to say about the garments by themselves, they never really said anything like “Since Wendy has pointed out Kevin’s bad leadership skills in this challenge, he should be eliminated.” I don’t think they said anything of that sort, however they DID point out that Kevin’s wardrobe did NOT match the line at all. I agree on this and I agree when Wendy pointed that out. His outfit was the MOST separate from the group and it did not look really deconstructed. It looked very different, and I think this is what caused his elimination. If you knew what the challenge was, you should know why he got eliminated. And it wasn’t because of Wendy’s comments. Now, Wendy’s site “wendypepper.com” states that she had to resort to trashing Kevin to stay in this competition. Now this may seem like the hardest thing for me to explain in this paragraph, but im going to try and see if you guys can clearly see were im coming from. First off, weve all noticed that Wendy acted very nice to Kevin while working with him on this project….then we see Wendy trashing Kevin after the runway show has ended. Now you guys automatically think “she’s a backstabber.” PERIOD. Well, that’s were I think you guys COULD possibly be wrong. Even though her website clearly stated, “I had to resort to trashing Kevin to stay in this competition.” I still find her “intentions” unclear. Before the runway show began, and Kevin played leader, im still wondering what was going on through Wendy’s mind. She seemed happy towards Kevin and tried to act friendly. Now, we all know Wendy is about 40 years old. You and me…well, im in my teens and I don’t know about you, but im young and I have enough common sense to say to myself “If I were in this competition…how would acting nice towards Kevin, and then trashing him on stage effect my presence in this competition?” Just think about it. Guys, Wendy isn’t stupid. She’s a mother, and she’s 40 years old and she has enough common sense for that. Back stabbing a person does NOT effect your presence in a competition. HOWEVER, it DOES effect your personal relationship from he or she…the judges could give a crap less wether Wendy did in fact back stab Kevin or not….it still wouldn’t effect wether she was here or not. Wendy knows that, she can’t be THAT stupid. That’s why, in my opinion…Her “personal intentions” before the runway began, wasn’t “let me act nice to Kevin and then trash in on the runway.” No. In my opinion she was thinking “Me and him have had a bad relationship in the past. Let me try and make it more peaceful and be more friendly.” That’s what I think. Believe it or not. After that though, THAT’S when Wendy was starting to realize Kevin wasn’t a good leader. AFTER she was being nice to Kevin in the work station, she started to realize Kevin’s leadership mistakes. How do I know? Watch the episode. When the creatie director (the guy with the grey hair) starts to speak to Wendy about what she thought, she started to point out her thoughts on Kevin about the pod coat and the timing and his mistakes on leadership. So there ya have it. Yes, Wendy was nice to Kevin in the workstation, but as time passed by, she started to realize his mistakes and felt like pointing it out to the director guy. WHY DID SHE POINT IT OUT to the director guy?? Because the guy questioned her about the pod coat and that it was the back-bone of this challenge to keep the line steady. So Wendy had no choice but to express her opinions on why the coat wasn’t made and that was based on kevin’s poor leadership skills. Guys, yes, in MY personal opinion…I don’t think Kevin is a great leader. Even everybody else thought Kevin wasn’t a great leader from the start. Look how it was with Norah and Alexanderia? He wasn’t cruel or mean, but he hasen’t got the right skills to maintain the garment construction time as well as his own time to make a garment. When he was with Norah, they both had trouble because of the timing. He doesn’t have the right skills to lead and this is kinda what caused everybody to fall. The garments weren’t really completed, and the whole thing got screwed up. I agree that he wasn’t a natural born leader, but that’s no excuse. It’s just like saying “Im not a natural born designer, but im going to try and compete on Project runway no matter what.” He should have at least knew this by now and being a leader is a big part of the design industry and business. ANYWAYS, back on subject, lol. Ok…so, so far weve discussed, or I have discussed Wendy’s “Intentions” before the show and why she didin’t have backstabbing thoughts on Kevin. Now lets move on to the runway show discussions. On her website, I’ll repeat…it clearly stated “I had to resort to trashing Kevin to stay in this competition.” Do you guys clearly see what she’s saying? Mabye, maybe not. Some of the things she says aren’t in “Literal meanings”…meaning…the words she says sometimes don’t mean “Literally” the things that she says. Take a good look at what happened to her on the runway. The judge asked her what Wendy thought of her design right? Wendy explained, but the judge cut her butt off before Wendy could even finish speaking and she bitterly said “But, it looks like my cat swallowed up a ball of yarn, and like spit it out afterwords.” Giving Wendy a VERY VERY pressured position. In her mind at this moment, she was probably thinking “Man, I think I might get eliminated now because im getting attacked very rudely by the judge.” So after she thinks this, the judge asks her “What did you think of Kevin being the leader?” Now, she had no choice but to express her opinion on his leadership. She couldn’t refuse and say no, or else she had a more risky chance of being eliminated, but she DI D express her opinion on Kevin. She pointed out his flaws and his mistakes and she didin’t do it in a “BASHFUL, conniving, back stabbing” way…the way you guys might think she did it. She slowly explained her thoughts kindly to the judgesin a kind voice and tried to point out exactly why he wasn’t a good leader and she displayed honesty. The other members KNEW Kevin wasn’t a good leader. Even KARA said he wasn’t really a great leader did she not? She said “a leader never lets somebody else come in a take control.” And Kevin failed to do just that. So…the other members on the runway were probably thinking in there heads “Were all friends with Kevin, and if we point out his leadership skills, he won’t like us anymore and he will probably be eliminated…so we’ll shut up and just say everything was all peachy creamy.” No, no, no. That was wrong. I thought this competition relied on SKILL, and TALENT to stay on this show? Pointing out kevin’s leadership skills…and I mean his TRUE skills in this competition by Wendy was the right thing to do. Keep in mind also that this wasn’t the first time she questioned his leadership skills. Did she not do it when the “director guy” came in and asked her about it like I aid above? She’s been feeling this way about Kevin’s leadership since the beginning of the competition almost. For Kevin, he had to be a good leader to make it through this competition and Wendy pointed out that his leadership was NOT GOOD and that his design did not fit in with the rest of this show. His bad leadership COULD have affected everyone elses designs and this could have led to serious trouble. I don’t know if you have any idea what impact he could have done if he was a worse leader. But then again, what Wendy said probably didn’t really affect the judges decisions, but it was very wise of her to her thoughts out. It really was guys, and I seriously think she is so more than what some people on here claim her to be as. Again, I respect all your opinions. I like to hear what you have to say. But, right now, im expressing mine and I mean no harm. But this was my opinion on her and I don’t think Wendy is the wicked witch/cruella de vil of the show. She is the honest, determined and competitive woman of this show with lots of talent and creativity. I love Wendy in a friendly way, and I would love to meet her. I haven’t seen people like her in a while. Anyways, keep in mind that some of you guys also hate her for her design work.
And one more thing people. This is the last thing I will point out. Even if Wendy DID IN FACT exploit Kevin’s leadership JUST to stay in the competition, remember that we are all human. If you got attacked like that from a judge you would have loads of pressure just jump on you and you probably would have done the same thing. We are all human, and the design industry is VERY competitive. But this isn’t my real opinion, my real opinion is above. This incident is really the ONLY issue as to why people hate her. That’s what I think.
slvrlk323
February 7, 2005 - 04:22 PM
I just LOVE Kara, Jay and Austin. I've liked all three from the beginning. I love them AND their designs. Jay and Austin are also the most entertaining on the show. I was sorry to see Robert go, but it was his time. Heidi was right, he IS charming.
I am SO ready for Wendy to get the "Auf Wiedersehen." She is such a pill. Whine, whine, whine. Wendy also needs a serious makeover. What's with the bad hair color (and cut) and that awful lipstick she applies with a paint brush. Good Lord! She needs to be designing costumes for community theater, not the runway.
oscar
February 7, 2005 - 04:24 PM
I will respond in very SIMPLE words - ALL can understand.
Kevin was WEAK - Wendy was STRONG - - - it is a cut throat business.
Kevin never stood up and defended himself when challenged in ANY episode - - it was never about Wendy.
Kevin may have more design talent - - but he will forever be a "lowerling" - - if he can't take charge of his own importance.
You are blaming Wendy for Kevin's weakness.
paillette
February 7, 2005 - 04:24 PM
Dear DeVil44,
You have a right to your opinion and I think you should express it freely. However... and I am trying to be helpful here... this is the second time you posted a very, very long post. I didn't read it because it was so long, and because it didn't even have any paragraph breaks. If you want your voice to be heard (or rather, your posts to be read), a little formatting and editing-down of the length would make your posts much more user-friendly. I don't know what you said, since I didn't read it, but surely you can make your points more succinctly.
knitgirl30
February 7, 2005 - 04:25 PM
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Go to www.newyorkmetro.com. Click link under designer's bio for Project Runway. Notice whose designs are missing? Go to www.wireimage.com. You'll notice all the designer's collection to look at, but look at the individual designer listing. There is one name missing. The same one whose collection is missing on New York Metro.
At www.newyorkmetro.com there is no bio information at all for Project Runway. And the photos show designs from all four designers.
And at www.wireimage.com, photos of all four designers and their fashions are shown. Also I did a search for an "individual designer listing" for Fashion Week and came up with nothing - only Fashion Week photos, and Project Runway photos.
Can you please provide the specific links to the information you mention?
oscar
February 7, 2005 - 04:27 PM
As far as Wendy's appearance - - what has that got to do with anything??
I remember Edith Head.
oscar
February 7, 2005 - 04:31 PM
I NEVER read long posts either - - I don't care if they are good or not - - I will not read them.
knitgirl30
February 7, 2005 - 04:44 PM
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As far as Wendy's appearance - - what has that got to do with anything??
I remember Edith Head.
What?
You are replying to my post with information that has nothing to do with my post.
sarahcatherine
February 7, 2005 - 04:47 PM
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was it my imagination, or did robio's sketch have a jacket?
i thought it did, although we only saw it for an instant.
i wondered if he got stalled like he did in the BR challenge, and went in too many directions to finish his entire ensemble.......???????
I think I saw a jacket and I know I saw a tie on one of the shirts. It's not to say that they were his final thoughts of what he would make, but it looked a lot more detailed than the end product.
My guess is that Rob doesn't handle the time frame well. He seems to get really focused on one thing and lose track of the outfit as a whole. Maybe he just panics? Like, the shirt design itself wasn't awful, but the fabric he chose for it did not work. The knit looked loose, which adds to the casual nature, it wasn't the right color, it was just a poor choice from the get-go and I think Rob just couldn't overcome it.
sarahcatherine
February 7, 2005 - 04:50 PM
Argh, that *does* really bug me. I doubt it's a new design name, she would have changed her website if that was the case, it's just poor site maintenance.
Although the thought of her just using her last name as her "design name" does make me gag a litte. Blech.
sarahcatherine
February 7, 2005 - 05:01 PM
I couldn't read the whole post, the no paragraphs thing wasn't working with my headache, but I did skim it a bit...
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First off, weve all noticed that Wendy acted very nice to Kevin while working with him on this project….then we see Wendy trashing Kevin after the runway show has ended. Now you guys automatically think “she’s a backstabber.” PERIOD. Well, that’s were I think you guys COULD possibly be wrong. Even though her website clearly stated, “I had to resort to trashing Kevin to stay in this competition.” I still find her “intentions” unclear.
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And one more thing people. This is the last thing I will point out. Even if Wendy DID IN FACT exploit Kevin’s leadership JUST to stay in the competition, remember that we are all human.
Now, I can understand wanting to defend someone who's been taking a pretty hefty beating, image-wise, but do you seriously think her intentions in trashing Kevin are "unclear", even when on her personal website, in her own words, she says that's *exactly* what she did? We didn't automatically think "backstabber", this wasn't the first episode and it wasn't the first time she had appeared to try to get close to someone in order to be able to use what she learned about them against them on the runway. We've all heard her say (and read her words) that say what her strategy was. We're not justing saying "ew, she has bad hair, she must be a backstabber"...we've *watched* her do it!
Keep defending Wendy if you want, but please do not act as if we are deluding ourselves in our dislike of her when you are deluding yourself about what the "facts" of the situation are. Sure we're all human, and by that I assume you mean to say we're all flawed...but just because we're all human doesn't mean we can't call each other on our flaws...and I think an ongoing strategy of befriending people only so you can betray them later is a *big* flaw.
JustTzujIt
February 7, 2005 - 05:01 PM
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As far as Wendy's appearance - - what has that got to do with anything??
I remember Edith Head.
What?
You are replying to my post with information that has nothing to do with my post.
There's no way to make new posts so you have to reply to someone else's, usually the last person to talk. Don't worry, he wasn't talking to you
lisakaz
February 7, 2005 - 05:10 PM
The clincher is the Morganaza thing. She was purposely mean. Maybe Morgan deserved it; Morgan certainly earned elimination, but most of us think that was deliberately cruel. I hope Morgan gets some sympathy on that one. Wouldn't it be a gas if Kevin ends up hiring her for job down the road???
lk
sassychic
February 7, 2005 - 05:13 PM
You're right. I was not as clear as I could've been.
>www.imagewire.com> click Olympus Fashion Week Fall 2005 - Runway icon> Look to the left hand column where it says "Celebrities">>you will notice three of the designer's names (one name is just the last name) and one is no where to be found.
www.newyorkmetro.com>>> Find "Fashion Week" under "Shopping & Fashion" drop down menu>> scroll down to the end of the pictures under "What's Hot" to the link "All New Fall 2005 Shows" and click on it>>> scroll to the link "Project Runway Designers" click on it>> click on the the model's photo>> up comes all the collections EXCEPT one. The same designer's collection is missing as the name from the celebrities on the imagewire.com site.
Hope that helps.
umniza
February 7, 2005 - 05:15 PM
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You're right. I was not as clear as I could've been.
>www.imagewire.com>
some soccer website...
lisakaz
February 7, 2005 - 05:22 PM
That's odd, since wireimage had the 4th person's collection up before...
lk
birdaileen
February 7, 2005 - 05:25 PM
her name might be missing from "celebs" on wireimage.com, but if you search her, her stuff still comes up. looks like a website glitch to me, like the "pepper" instead of "wendy pepper"
lisakaz
February 7, 2005 - 05:26 PM
Yep! Still there.
lk
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