JustTzujIt
February 8, 2005 - 06:34 PM
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here's a new one all: from the Washington Post about new designers (only this part refers to PR):
Perhaps the most famous unknowns of the week are the designers from the Bravo series "Project Runway." They have been vying for a $100,000 prize and a Banana Republic mentorship. The show taped its finale Friday morning, with four designers presenting collections. One designer was a red herring; there are only three finalists. An educated guess would have Jay McCarroll, Kara Saun and Wendy Pepper in the runway showdown. One must assume that Austin Scarlett will be eliminated, unless the judges decide that dressing women like a drag version of Mae West is a commercially viable idea.
I personally can't believe they rather take Wendy's designs which lack character altogether over Austin's designs which may have a bit too much character... but guys... its a fashion show. Most people are going to wear less intense versions of what they see at fashionweek. I personally think it's impossible to wear a less intense version of Wendy's designs... unless it happens to be made of candy.
JustTzujIt
February 8, 2005 - 06:45 PM
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Another thing that's interesting - what you see on the runway is rarely what 'ships' for most of these designers. They may be showing micro-minis and sheer tops on the runway, but when the buyers come in (from Bergdorf's or Neiman Marcus or wherever. . .) they emphasize that "oh, this skirt will ship 6 inches longer!" or "yes, we'll be putting an opaque tank under that!" As much as anything, the runway shows get attention for the brand and the designer.
THANKYOU! I've been trying to get that point across. One reason I don't understand why people would ever say someone's style is too extreme for the runway. Extreme fashion and runway are almost synonymous! A runway show is done, then the fashions keep the same touch but are made just a bit more moderate to keep the appeal of buyers.
iowahousewife
February 8, 2005 - 07:09 PM
I agree with Oscar on the Target thing, especially when pregnant - they have hip designers doing maternity. (Yes, that is possible- haha) Anyway, was watching an interesting 60 minutes on the designer Mossumo (not sure if I spelled that right, but he was mainly a big swimwear designer in the 80's) when he first signed on with Target to produce not only swimwear but men's and women's lines. He was taking a lot of heat from the design world about "selling out." The whole story was about how he actually broadened his market and fattened his pocket nicely, not to mention helped put Target back on the map as a trendier, discount store. He also opened the door or held the door open for other designers to slip in and take Target miles ahead of the others in that category. Just a tidbit of the extent of my designer knowledge.... fascinating, I'm sure!!! :-)
ericats
February 8, 2005 - 07:23 PM
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I agree with Oscar on the Target thing, especially when pregnant - they have hip designers doing maternity. (Yes, that is possible- haha) Anyway, was watching an interesting 60 minutes on the designer Mossumo (not sure if I spelled that right, but he was mainly a big swimwear designer in the 80's) when he first signed on with Target to produce not only swimwear but men's and women's lines. He was taking a lot of heat from the design world about "selling out." The whole story was about how he actually broadened his market and fattened his pocket nicely, not to mention helped put Target back on the map as a trendier, discount store. He also opened the door or held the door open for other designers to slip in and take Target miles ahead of the others in that category. Just a tidbit of the extent of my designer knowledge.... fascinating, I'm sure!!! :-)
Close - Mossimo. Back in 1996 I had a bfriend who had stock in Mossimo and he lost a lot of money because I guess M's design house was going under so he sold his stock. If bfriend had just held on until the Target deal maybe he wouldn't have been so grouchy!
ericats
February 8, 2005 - 07:26 PM
Was channel surfing a few minutes ago and caught the new preview for this week's show on Bravo. Saw flashes of closeups of the designs and they look much better than in the original long shot. Looks like it is going to be a dramatic show.
sassychic
February 8, 2005 - 07:39 PM
Thanks for passing that along the info. It seemed to me rather hard to get a good look at most of designs in the long shot.
Twitchly
February 8, 2005 - 07:42 PM
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As far as challenges - here's some ideas I would love to see:
1)I would love to see them make something for a MAN! How crazy is that? I know women drive the fashion industry, but the market for men is growing leaps and bounds. I'd love to see what Austin or Jay would do for a man, even Kara - all of them.
2)I'd like to see them all given the same material, same quantity and they have to each come up with their own design using it. It could be a dress, suit, swimsuit, halter and shorts - anything goes. (I guess that is similar to the cotton challenge, but I'm thinking a satin or something and they cannot dye it)
3) I would like to see one episode where they use plus size models (give the skinnies a break one episode - send them out to dinner or something) and the designs are every day wear or evening wear
4) I would love to have them design something for themselves - something they would wear and then they have to model it and explain it.
5)Similar to the Rock Star challenge - would be fun to have teams do an Oscar or Grammy dress for a nominee and the winners dress will be worn to the show.
Anyway - just thinking out loud.
GREAT ideas! I'd love to see every one of these competitions. I think you should send these in to the producers of the show. And LOVED the comment about sending the skinnies out to dinner. Too funny. I'd like to see more designers have to design something for the larger woman or man. *Everything* looks good on really skinny models with big shoulders. Let's see what they can do for short tubby people with narrow sloping shoulders and an inner tube for a waist. (Not that I'm thinking of anyone in *particular* here ...
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nabakov5
February 8, 2005 - 07:43 PM
my favorite designer on the show was kevin hands down...with hardly even a nod to any other designer....since kevin's (unfair and staged)elimination I have come to appreciate jay's vision and sense of irony....i don't have a favorite designer in the real world...in that a teacher's salary doesn't allow for much shopping outside of goodwill and old costumes from the drama department....i feel that wendy is probablly misrepresented in some respects...the casualties of editing and the phenomenon of camera-induced-evilness....i don't think she is a strong designer...but i realized long ago with this show that designing took a hefty back seat to demographics and drama....in keeping with my other posts...i will now wail and thrash about in abject disgust and eternal turmoil at the cutting of precious precious kevin....WWWWWAAAAAAHHHHHH....why him?...why my little crunchy animal cracker?....how could the fates shine so dimly on such a grand talent...such a tender soul...such a delectable bottom....why oh why oh why oh why....kevin my dear....i will wait for you....my name is catherine...i was named after catherine the great of RUSSIA...and though catherine the great died under "questionable" circumstances...believe this...her russian spunk is ever alive in this fiery red-headed irish girl....GOD BLESS MOTHER RUSSIA!!!!.....
iowahousewife
February 8, 2005 - 07:54 PM
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Was channel surfing a few minutes ago and caught the new preview for this week's show on Bravo. Saw flashes of closeups of the designs and they look much better than in the original long shot. Looks like it is going to be a dramatic show.
Just caught the new promo too!! As Jay says "I hate Wendy" and then I see Wendy's smug little smirk - I want to literally kick her ass. I do not know if it is safe for me to watch tomorrow night. I am so sick and tired of the way Bravo has edited this show. I'm sure Wendy really did act like a b!tch on this show, but I am sick of her dominating all the edited shows. It has been like this for about 4 episodes now - constant "will she go or will she stay" drama. It really takes away from the success of Jay Kara and Austin getting this far on their own merits. It's like this is a Monopoly game and she's got the only get out of jail free card, but we won't find that out until the end!! SHOOT ME NOW!
lisakaz
February 8, 2005 - 08:10 PM
LOL. Yeah, I wonder what he'd say about a cockroach surviving a fashiion competition...
lk
JustTzujIt
February 8, 2005 - 08:11 PM
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Close - Mossimo. Back in 1996 I had a bfriend who had stock in Mossimo and he lost a lot of money because I guess M's design house was going under so he sold his stock. If bfriend had just held on until the Target deal maybe he wouldn't have been so grouchy!
I had a pair of Mossimo jeans two years ago and they fit me quite nicely. Sadly, it was the middle of my growth spurt, and I grew out of them. But an excellent brand nonetheless.
lisakaz
February 8, 2005 - 08:12 PM
Nothing that she showed couldn't be found at some retailer already. Can't see her "designs" on "the look for less". Gee, can anyone guess why?
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lisakaz
February 8, 2005 - 08:14 PM
I hear ya. I won't watch unless someone tells me why I should.
lk
ThomsTeddyBear
February 8, 2005 - 08:19 PM
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here's a new one all: from the Washington Post about new designers (only this part refers to PR):
One must assume that Austin Scarlett will be eliminated, unless the judges decide that dressing women like a drag version of Mae West is a commercially viable idea.
Better a drag version of Mae West and covered than walking down the street and suddenly finding yourself Lady Godiva.
Morgasmo
February 8, 2005 - 08:29 PM
Wendy's taken over the promos just like she's taken over the message boards. lol
"I *sigh* hate Wendy". Bless Jay...he just has a way of saying things. I wonder why Jay hasn't bitched her out yet. That would be quality television.
Unrelated, but LOL to Austin's collection being referred to as drag Mae West. I hear some of you say that maybe he didn't put that much into it because he could be the red herring designer, but hell, it's still Fashion Week. You'd think he want Bravo producers to see they screwed up if indeed he gets the boot (not that I would disagree with such a decision).
ThomsTeddyBear
February 8, 2005 - 08:32 PM
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Thoms:)--I enjoy your posts. Yeah, Walmart Rocks! As does Target...
Maybe we'll see a Wendy Collection there soon--Oh, excuse me...Garments made by "Pepper"....
I find myself hilarious, so wrong--totally joking--she's better than Walmart..............*single tear.
TOMORROW NIGHT, WHY CAN'T YOU COME FASTER!???
I'm warped and this show is SO not helping me. Well, at least that's what my therapist says. Well, he would say it but I've tightened the gag around his mouth. It's his fault I tell you, he kept trying to quell my Austin love!
snoops
February 8, 2005 - 08:50 PM
My favorite established designers are Sam Walton...
I am still laughing at this! Too funny!
goddessamelia
February 8, 2005 - 08:52 PM
My favorite now is Jay since my beloved Robert is gone **sigh** I will be watching last weeks show tommorow and hopefully catch a peek at Robio's butt.
d2000
February 8, 2005 - 08:54 PM
Say Austin is eliminated tomorrow night...that would mean he wasn't one of the three finalists to make a line for fashion week as the very last challenge. Wouldn't this also mean he wasn't provided with any of the resources the three actual finalists would have been provided with (i.e. fabric, money...) and wouldn't this therefore explain why he may have had some old pieces displayed and in his defense, would have had much less to work with??
ThomsTeddyBear
February 8, 2005 - 09:11 PM
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Say Austin is eliminated tomorrow night...that would mean he wasn't one of the three finalists to make a line for fashion week as the very last challenge. Wouldn't this also mean he wasn't provided with any of the resources the three actual finalists would have been provided with (i.e. fabric, money...) and wouldn't this therefore explain why he may have had some old pieces displayed and in his defense, would have had much less to work with??
There's strong speculation that if he is the one who is eliminated that he used a ready-made collection from his portfolio. This would make sense and would explain why some feel his work at FW was not as strong. With time comes experience and he has grown some, as have they all, through this show.
I did like his FW collection, though
ericats
February 8, 2005 - 09:19 PM
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Say Austin is eliminated tomorrow night...that would mean he wasn't one of the three finalists to make a line for fashion week as the very last challenge. Wouldn't this also mean he wasn't provided with any of the resources the three actual finalists would have been provided with (i.e. fabric, money...) and wouldn't this therefore explain why he may have had some old pieces displayed and in his defense, would have had much less to work with??
Maybe Bravo realized how they screwed up the timing of the epis and FW and asked him at the last minute to participate. In any case I think that they have some hefty cajones to ask anyone to serve as a decoy.
It breaks my heart that Austin didn't have the greatest coming out party at FW; he really deserves great things.
Luvscar3
February 8, 2005 - 09:24 PM
oh my gaud,
i totally agree. Austin is the best, he should win! I am glad richie got booted off. he drew all over wendy's picture
of her kid; what a sad little man!!! i would kick his arse
and 7iss on his face!
goddessamelia
February 8, 2005 - 09:26 PM
how do you know he drew all over the picture?
Luvscar3
February 8, 2005 - 09:40 PM
he had the perfect motive to draw all over it. we know he did it, he seems immature enough to do it...
Gherk
February 8, 2005 - 10:11 PM
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Of the final four, I'm betting Kara will win. I thought Wendy and Jay were pretty even in their showings -- what was up with the headphones/ear muffs on all of Jay's models. I'm guessing that's his "signature?"
All three had great outfits that fit in with Fashion Week.
I like Austin, he's a great designer, but he seems to be stuck in costuming instead of design normal (alright relatively normal <g>) clothes like the rest of them. If he's the one cut, that's probably why. I can't help but feeling he was in the wrong contest -- if it was something for costuming (which is a tough field to break in Hollywood) he'd have won.
The title of Jay's Fashion Week collection was "Stereotype" - hence the headphones which tie his collection together even more visually than the designs themselves. They're not his signature. I really can't believe you consider his work and Wendy's to be of the same calibre - especially considering their ages and experience. He's ten years younger than her - and has been doing this for a while, granted, but come on - that woman has been doing this for some time and not so well if you ask me and most of the people on this board, in the audience at fashion week, the judges on the show, the list goes on.
lisakaz
February 8, 2005 - 10:25 PM
Jay is joking with him around the time his behind is shown.
lk
lisakaz
February 8, 2005 - 10:26 PM
Yep. He would be hindered. And the intent would be that he don't outshire anyone else. Wendy was boring anyway.
lk
nabakov5
February 9, 2005 - 04:53 AM
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oh my gaud,
i totally agree. Austin is the best, he should win! I am glad richie got booted off. he drew all over wendy's picture
of her kid; what a sad little man!!! i would kick his arse
and 7iss on his face!
who's richie?
jescci
February 9, 2005 - 05:06 AM
For some reason, I'm starting to lose a little interest in the show. Maybe because Austin has been disapppointing. He's shown himself to be quite human and that he won't deliver corn-husk/BR party-dress/Esther Williams-swimsuit quality every week. Heck after tonite he won't be delivering anything at all. I feel like the show ended already and the next few episodes are olbigatory and antclimactic.
On to AI and ANTM.
Eve889
February 9, 2005 - 05:39 AM
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Of the final four, I'm betting Kara will win. I thought Wendy and Jay were pretty even in their showings -- what was up with the headphones/ear muffs on all of Jay's models. I'm guessing that's his "signature?"
All three had great outfits that fit in with Fashion Week.
I like Austin, he's a great designer, but he seems to be stuck in costuming instead of design normal (alright relatively normal <g>) clothes like the rest of them. If he's the one cut, that's probably why. I can't help but feeling he was in the wrong contest -- if it was something for costuming (which is a tough field to break in Hollywood) he'd have won.
The title of Jay's Fashion Week collection was "Stereotype" - hence the headphones which tie his collection together even more visually than the designs themselves. They're not his signature. I really can't believe you consider his work and Wendy's to be of the same calibre - especially considering their ages and experience. He's ten years younger than her - and has been doing this for a while, granted, but come on - that woman has been doing this for some time and not so well if you ask me and most of the people on this board, in the audience at fashion week, the judges on the show, the list goes on.
Thanks for the explanation about the headphones, I was wondering about that. Re: the collections I went by the clothes only (not the show's manipulated editing, come on now, you now reality shows are anything but real)-- everyone's stuff is good. They all seem to be going for different clientele. Wendy seems to be more for a slightly older crowd (except for a couple outfits which younger clients might like) while Jay (and Kara) for for the younger audience.
sassy2fat4u
February 9, 2005 - 06:52 AM
I Quite agree about Wendy the "backstabber". There's no quailty about her work, which is hand in hand with her nasty disposition. I can't wait for her to get whats coming to her!
iowahousewife
February 9, 2005 - 07:06 AM
FOund this interesting interview w/Josh Patner of the label Tuleh - formerly w/ Donna Karan all about Fashion shows and Fashion week. As a total novice to this industry - I was quite intruiged! Wishing I had about $50,000 to help get some of our dumped designers a show!!
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RGRRGR
February 9, 2005 - 07:12 AM
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I Quite agree about Wendy the "backstabber". There's no quailty about her work, which is hand in hand with her nasty disposition. I can't wait for her to get whats coming to her!
With all the responses (regardless if negative)Wendy get's on these Boards, I would not be surprised if she does not get here own show or end up on the talk circuit, and regardless of all the protests she appears to be getting, many of you would watch. Its like train wreck syndrome, Regardless of how gruesome, you have to watch (Bravo know's this). You give credence to what should not be given credence in your loud and moanful rants. And if I may say further, I hope Austin takes advantage of what is surely his 15 minutes, the clock is ticking.
gotnails
February 9, 2005 - 07:13 AM
how do you know who went to FW? what do you know that i don't?
iowahousewife
February 9, 2005 - 07:20 AM
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I Quite agree about Wendy the "backstabber". There's no quailty about her work, which is hand in hand with her nasty disposition. I can't wait for her to get whats coming to her!
With all the responses (regardless if negative)Wendy get's on these Boards, I would not be surprised if she does not get here own show or end up on the talk circuit, and regardless of all the protests she appears to be getting, many of you would watch. Its like train wreck syndrome, Regardless of how gruesome, you have to watch (Bravo know's this). You give credence to what should not be given credence in your loud and moanful rants. And if I may say further, I hope Austin takes advantage of what is surely his 15 minutes, the clock is ticking.
Now rrrgrr or whatever - did you wake up feeling a little GGGRRR this morning? I have been enjoying your sense of humor and reason on this board, but I beg of you - please recant your 15 minute wish on Austin. I must disagree wholeheartedly! While his 15 minutes of national fame may be ticking - I doubt the fashion world will see him disappear anytime soon!! (At least I hope not!)
I think I might take up drinking tonight IF I decide to watch the episode. If I was back in college I'd make a game of it and say drink to every unjustice shown or every smirk edited in - but on second thought, I'd like to live. GO AUSTIN, GO KARA, GO JAY.............Wendy, GO HOME! (I couldn't resist, my last chance to throw in another "moanful rant" ... sorry GGGRRR!)
sarahcatherine
February 9, 2005 - 07:24 AM
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FOund this interesting interview w/Josh Patner of the label Tuleh - formerly w/ Donna Karan all about Fashion shows and Fashion week. As a total novice to this industry - I was quite intruiged! Wishing I had about $50,000 to help get some of our dumped designers a show!!
Was that slate.com article? That was a very interesting read. If anyone else is interested...
http://slate.msn.com/id/2106639/
One particularly good quote...
"Remember that fashion and clothes are not the same thing: Clothes keep you from being naked or cold, and pockets provide a place for your house keys. Fashion, when it's good, sends the imagination racing and speaks for the wearer's dreams in a way words can't."
RGRRGR
February 9, 2005 - 07:31 AM
Don't mean to offend, just calling it as I see it. Am somewhat of a reality show junky and there typically is a pattern (no pun intended)as to how these things work themselves out, and lets be honest PR is merely a reality show.
paillette
February 9, 2005 - 08:23 AM
On the issue as to whether Austin received funds from Bravo for Fashion Week: They must have given him SOMETHING! If the whole idea is to throw TV journalists, and us fans, off the scent, then it would not be in Bravo's best interests not to give the decoy some funds. Plus, if you look at the materials in his collection -- a buckskin trenchcoat!, a long silk-velvet gown -- it's clear that he was able to afford luxury materials. The "Mae West" comment is a response to the cut of the clothes, not the cost of the materials. I think it's bunk to look at that collection and think he didn't have some decent funding to produce it.
Although many people have been bitching and moaning about the possible elimination of Austin (or whoever it is), I actually think the decoy got a really good break! Think about it: three weeks ago, everyone was thinking that there were really two levels of "winning" on this program. The "grand prize" is the 100K + BR + Fashion week. But I think it's fair to say that even getting JUST the Fashion Week opportunity is a huge break in this business. Again, before this board became obsessed with Wendy and a sense of injustice surrounding her, we all agreed (I think) that getting to fashion week was a big deal.
In light of this, I think the fact that four designers got to show at FW actually is a fairly generous turn-around for PR. In all honesty, I think it's unlikely that Austin would have won the grand prize in any event: Kara probably will, maybe Jay. Given that he probably wouldn't have won, the next best thing would be for him to get to show what he can do at FW. If he is indeed the decoy, and ranked #4, then he got a HUGE BREAK in getting to show at Fashion Week anyway, despite the original intent to only send 3 designers there. Indeed, whoever is #4 did pretty well for himself or herself, I'd say.
Look on the bright side, people!
oscar
February 9, 2005 - 08:26 AM
As I stated earlier - Kevin may be a good designer - but he did not stand up for himself - - at anytime.
This is a cut throat business - - if he doesn't have enough confidence in himself - no one else will either.
His elimination was correct. Not for his designs - but because he did not defend them with sincerity - he did not believe in his own design.
iowahousewife
February 9, 2005 - 09:06 AM
http://slate.com/id/2113109/?GT1=6082Yes - that's it! Thank you for figuring it out and posting it - what an idiot this am - I forgot to paste the link! I loved the insight!
iowahousewife
February 9, 2005 - 09:06 AM
http://slate.com/id/2113109/?GT1=6082Yes - that's it! Thank you for figuring it out and posting it - what an idiot this a.m. - I forgot to paste the link! I loved the insight!
iowahousewife
February 9, 2005 - 09:12 AM
Paillette- I agree with you hands down. Like it or not - even if Austin is eliminated tonight, he still got his name out there and more exposure by going to FW as an honorable mention candidate than had he just got sent home.
It does calm my nerves to know that. If there is any consolation in Wendy getting to fashion week AT ALL, it is that at least Austin went too in one form or another. I agree that he wouldn't have won - the whole goal on his part was to get there. I also think he was so disappointed to not be in the top three and have his work shown on the show, that perhaps he lost some steam. Either way - chin up, little man!
sarahcatherine
February 9, 2005 - 09:18 AM
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Yes - that's it! Thank you for figuring it out and posting it - what an idiot this a.m. - I forgot to paste the link! I loved the insight!
No problem. It was a great article and I'm glad you brought it up.
I wonder how much say the designers got in their shows, as far as models used and music and all, or if Bravo just took over that aspect of it.
iowahousewife
February 9, 2005 - 09:20 AM
no offense taken here, rgrrgr! Just hard timing you this morning! I enjoy your sense of humor. I am not much on reality shows- this is about the only show I have time to watch, but I know the pattern - as maddening as it is! Knowing that - I would not be at all surprised if Wendy is declared the winner on a technicality or something. Perhaps they define "Winner" as most improved or the person who grew the most as a designer throughout the shows. There could be a twist. THey could show her pathetic start in the first two episodes, followed by her BR win and her staying power and say......... "You won by a longshot!" WOuldn't surprise me at all at this point. We'll see soon enough. (Well, not soon enough - I'd love it all to wrap up tonight, I'm so drained on the drama.)
angeedee
February 9, 2005 - 09:33 AM
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here's a new one all: from the Washington Post about new designers (only this part refers to PR):
One must assume that Austin Scarlett will be eliminated, unless the judges decide that dressing women like a drag version of Mae West is a commercially viable idea.
Better a drag version of Mae West and covered than walking down the street and suddenly finding yourself Lady Godiva.
LOL!
you've got that right. I guess if wendy becomes a big star, and has to hire models for runways every year, their contract will have to include the clause "please bring your own drawers."
imagadabout
February 9, 2005 - 09:37 AM
Okay, Jay, Kara, Austin-- all fabulous artists! Wendy, i mean, i can only imagine she's still there because it's a "realit tv show" and having a crazy, controversial, untalented [expletive deleted] is good for ratings... As an artist, I am dissapointed that someone with so little vision has been allowed to even compete with the talent on Project Runway. There were some very talented people that didn't make it as far as Wendy on the show, but i'm sure will go much further in the industry. Good luck to you Jay, Austin, and Kara!!!! I would love to have all three of you design my wardrobe!!
sarahcatherine
February 9, 2005 - 09:40 AM
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LOL!
you've got that right. I guess if wendy becomes a big star, and has to hire models for runways every year, their contract will have to include the clause "please bring your own drawers."
I just saw an article about a bill being passed in Virginia...
"RICHMOND, VA. -- Virginians who wear their pants so low their underwear shows may want to think about investing in a stronger belt.
The state House of Delegates passed a bill 60-34 Tuesday authorizing a $50 fine for anyone who displays his or her underpants in a 'lewd or indecent manner.'"
I think some of Wendy's designs would qualify as "lewd" or "indecent". Maybe she'll have to relocate if this bill becomes state law.
angeedee
February 9, 2005 - 09:47 AM
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LOL!
you've got that right. I guess if wendy becomes a big star, and has to hire models for runways every year, their contract will have to include the clause "please bring your own drawers."
I just saw an article about a bill being passed in Virginia...
"RICHMOND, VA. -- Virginians who wear their pants so low their underwear shows may want to think about investing in a stronger belt.
The state House of Delegates passed a bill 60-34 Tuesday authorizing a $50 fine for anyone who displays his or her underpants in a 'lewd or indecent manner.'"
I think some of Wendy's designs would qualify as "lewd" or "indecent". Maybe she'll have to relocate if this bill becomes state law.
ROFL!!!!
oscar
February 9, 2005 - 09:56 AM
WHY are we making this all about Wendy again????????
Can't we give attention to those who you feel deserve it?????
deedee7
February 9, 2005 - 09:56 AM
personally i would never shop at walmart -
but target - you have to give target some credit, over the last couple of years they have featured clothing designed by cynthia rowley, stephen sprouse and isaac mizrahi. okay, so they're not exactly top-of-the-line, but at least it exposes the average shopper to some designs they would never normally consider or be able to afford . . .
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