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ThomsTeddyBear
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personally i would never shop at walmart -
but target - you have to give target some credit, over the last couple of years they have featured clothing designed by cynthia rowley, stephen sprouse and isaac mizrahi. okay, so they're not exactly top-of-the-line, but at least it exposes the average shopper to some designs they would never normally consider or be able to afford . . .




I had never been in a Walmart until a friend took me in December and I fell in love with the things in there! Not the clothes, housing accessories. They were WAY more affordable than I had ever seen anywhere else!

Target went downhill for a bit, at least here they did. Then I saw a show where Isaac Mizrahi was showcasing his new Target line on everday women. I had heard of his name but still didn't know who he was so I sat down and watched it. The clothes were nice and I found myself saying, "I'd wear that." Hopefully he's starting a new trend.
Binleys
I share your appreciation for the show's artistic value. What hooked me on PR was that participants were incentivized to create beautiful, artful items. The show rewarded great art, and eliminated the bad stuff. Early on, unprofessional behavior was discouraged as well. PR was doing well in the ratings when it took this approach. I was so looking forward to a finale featuring three professional artists who liked and respected each other and won strictly on the merits of their work. We lost that.

The show took major (and disappointing) shift in tone and focus when the W issues came around. At first my reaction was "She doesn't get this game . . . she's playing it like Survivor, and that's all wrong." But damn if it didn't work.

I will watch the rest of the season because I've developed true respect and admiration for J, K and A. But future seasons will be spoiled because of the precedent set by W's behavior and the PR's encouragement of it. From now on there will be marginally talented contestants that take the 'strategic' route to the top rather than relying on their talent. That ruins the show for me.

I reject the argument that 'that's reality TV, deal with it.' No. There are no rules to the formula. PR started out as a different reality show, one with an ethical core, and it was a big success. Now it's just like all the others. I contend the conniving drama aspect is not a requisite to good ratings.
Somuchforthat
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LOL!
you've got that right. I guess if wendy becomes a big star, and has to hire models for runways every year, their contract will have to include the clause "please bring your own drawers."




I just saw an article about a bill being passed in Virginia...
"RICHMOND, VA.
The state House of Delegates passed a bill 60-34 Tuesday authorizing a $50 fine for anyone who displays his or her underpants in a 'lewd or indecent manner.'"

I think some of Wendy's designs would qualify as "lewd" or "indecent". Maybe she'll have to relocate if this bill becomes state law.




ROFL! It does makes one pause....Pepper made two (TWO!) panty designs that were unwearable (challenges No. 1 and No. 7.) Poor Martinique was so pained by Pepper's thong, she couldn't wear it. Since Matinique had her own, it's not like she was wearing a thong for the first time...gotta conclude it was the Pepper thong that was unwearable. And I still question why the beautiful, demure, draped top she paired with "a panty" cried out in any remote way for a thong? I thought the whole point of her suit was coverage. The thong underneath...huh? And the fabric's swimability was called into question, but Wendy didn't answer that (to my knowledge). Maybe that was one of the judicious edits.

Lordy, I was making my own bathing suits when I was 16! No thongs, I hasten to add, but still her ineptitude at this simple assignment completely boggles. Especially boggling is the part that she got a "bye" for both. Stunning. Staggering, even. Wendy got a pass for work that wasn't even complete -- twice -- this is large in my personal opinion of where this show went wrong. Likewise hemlines and finishing, both of which she was called on more than once. Her advancing week after week was bewildering. Conclusion: the fix was in with the BR challenge. Hopefully not before, but surely after.
oscar
Binley - - - great post. I agree with you - - I would prefer the designs themselves are Center Stage - - not the drama.

But - in reality - isn't the design business very cut throat??
sassychic
Oscar, I can understand how you feel the discussion needs to be off "Wendy" and more positive. But feel people are trying more to mix it up a little. People are ticked and after tonight, it will heat up.

Maybe just keep throwing out the positive posts and like many, it's encouraged us to change the subject. For me, I may respond to posts on both and esp those in response to my posts. So, relax and try to pass by the negative posts.
angeedee
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LOL!
you've got that right. I guess if wendy becomes a big star, and has to hire models for runways every year, their contract will have to include the clause "please bring your own drawers."




I just saw an article about a bill being passed in Virginia...
"RICHMOND, VA.
The state House of Delegates passed a bill 60-34 Tuesday authorizing a $50 fine for anyone who displays his or her underpants in a 'lewd or indecent manner.'"

I think some of Wendy's designs would qualify as "lewd" or "indecent". Maybe she'll have to relocate if this bill becomes state law.




ROFL! It does makes one pause....Pepper made two (TWO!) panty designs that were unwearable (challenges No. 1 and No. 7.) Poor Martinique was so pained by Pepper's thong, she couldn't wear it. Since Matinique had her own, it's not like she was wearing a thong for the first time...gotta conclude it was the Pepper thong that was unwearable. And I still question why the beautiful, demure, draped top she paired with "a panty" cried out in any remote way for a thong? I thought the whole point of her suit was coverage. The thong underneath...huh? And the fabric's swimability was called into question, but Wendy didn't answer that (to my knowledge). Maybe that was one of the judicious edits.

Lordy, I was making my own bathing suits when I was 16! No thongs, I hasten to add, but still her ineptitude at this simple assignment completely boggles. Especially boggling is the part that she got a "bye" for both. Stunning. Staggering, even. Wendy got a pass for work that wasn't even complete -- twice -- this is large in my personal opinion of where this show went wrong. Likewise hemlines and finishing, both of which she was called on more than once. Her advancing week after week was bewildering. Conclusion: the fix was in with the BR challenge. Hopefully not before, but surely after.




i think wendy gave you your answer about the top and the thong. she said "i don't know how to make a swimsuit."
since you've made your own, you know they require at least some skill in construction and fit.
wendy made a top and a thong because she wasn't capable of making a swimsuit. she just made a top and a half-assed thong (literally) because that's the best she could do.
thank god martinique had her own thong. if she'd been going commando that day there's no telling what we would have seen.
ThomsTeddyBear
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I share your appreciation for the show's artistic value. What hooked me on PR was that participants were incentivized to create beautiful, artful items. The show rewarded great art, and eliminated the bad stuff. Early on, unprofessional behavior was discouraged as well. PR was doing well in the ratings when it took this approach. I was so looking forward to a finale featuring three professional artists who liked and respected each other and won strictly on the merits of their work. We lost that.

The show took major (and disappointing) shift in tone and focus when the W issues came around. At first my reaction was "She doesn't get this game . . . she's playing it like Survivor, and that's all wrong." But damn if it didn't work.

I will watch the rest of the season because I've developed true respect and admiration for J, K and A. But future seasons will be spoiled because of the precedent set by W's behavior and the PR's encouragement of it. From now on there will be marginally talented contestants that take the 'strategic' route to the top rather than relying on their talent. That ruins the show for me.

I reject the argument that 'that's reality TV, deal with it.' No. There are no rules to the formula. PR started out as a different reality show, one with an ethical core, and it was a big success. Now it's just like all the others. I contend the conniving drama aspect is not a requisite to good ratings.




Very well said and completely truthful! If there is another show, each contestant will be vying for the b*tch factor instead of concentrating on design. This show is a prime example of the degradation of a good idea.
musclemonkey
Do you think they'll run another season or just let it die?
sassychic
I agree with you, too. Very well written.
musclemonkey
I agree as well. Did they suddenly increase their market share on Wednesday nights? I love the show in the beginning but now I am only sticking around becasue I want to see Wendy Pepper get it in the end.
deedee7
I agree with Binley too - Project Runway was a chance to showcase real talent by new designers, and it's just descended the way of the other mediocre reality shows that are out there. Such a shame, because it was a fantastic concept.
musclemonkey
I would love to see another PR without all of the drama. But along with all this drama, I became soooooo passionate about watching the show. But I don't think it has been fair to the designers. Certain people are still there that shouldn't be.
deedee7
So true, if "Pepper" is in the final 3, it makes the whole show a travesty. Fashion is art, and that's what I wanted to see, fashion, not another "Survivor." Wendy's "reality tactics" have nothing to do with her ability (or lack of) as a designer. Why do TV producers feel they have to dumb-down a show and make it mediocre, to feel it's a success? I think the viewing public is smarter than that.
Somuchforthat
Also agreed. My 23 yr-old great-niece is studying fashion design at IIT and told me about PR at the family Christmas dinner. At that time, none of the machinations had taken hold. When I saw it, I too got excited about it. Saw all the episodes thus far. Then it went haywire with the BR and the Wendy. Great-neice is now lamenting how crappy it has turned out.

Congrats, Bravo!
sassychic
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I agree as well. Did they suddenly increase their market share on Wednesday nights? I love the show in the beginning but now I am only sticking around becasue I want to see Wendy Pepper get it in the end.




I would think their ratings shares went up on Wednesdays, but I am not sure that is going to last. There now just the run of mill reality show.
Loomchick
If Austin is the one eliminated during this evening's episode, is it possible that may be the best thing for him? Austin is my favorite, so I don't mean this as anything bad . . . in fact, could losing tonight's challenge work to his advantage?

The following are some of my reasons:

- Austin has received a lot of exposure from PR . . . I believe he's truly on his way without winning

- Imagine the attention Austin might receive from losing to Wendzilla . . . "He lost to her? OMG!" Jay and Kara wouldn't receive that kind of attention . . . they're expected to win over Wendy . . . and I believe Austin is too . . . however, the disbelief that Wendy would beat Austin might garner him more attention (and hurt the credibility of PR)

- It looks like the loser of tonight's challenge still goes on to Fashion Week as the decoy . . . I think there's a certain amount of cache to be had by being the one decoy as opposed to the three designers . . . a bit more intrigue . . . and perhaps more attention to the decoy's collection . . . Does the decoy become more of a novelty during FW?

- Also, I don't see Austin with Banana Republic . . . too stifling

Trying to look at the glass as half full . . . sometimes losers are the real winners.
angeedee
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Also agreed. My 23 yr-old great-niece is studying fashion design at IIT and told me about PR at the family Christmas dinner. At that time, none of the machinations had taken hold. When I saw it, I too got excited about it. Saw all the episodes thus far. Then it went haywire with the BR and the Wendy. Great-neice is now lamenting how crappy it has turned out.

Congrats, Bravo!




Don't you get tired of television executives insulting your intelligence?
it's starting to bother me.
i get the feeling they won't quit with these ridiculous "reality" shows (and pardon me, but i don't think any of this crap has any basis in reality whatsoever) until someone dies on one. maybe then they will leave them alone.
would have been nice to get insight into the designers' thought processes, see their sketches (who among us wouldn't have loved to see the other deisnger's ideas for the rock and roll challenge?) and watch them struggle with draping or construction issues? it would explain a lot more about what we see on the runway......
it's just too bad.
turns out PR was all talk, no walk.
deedee7
Is it just me - Wendy kind of reminds me of Linda Tripp?
Anyone else see it?
oscar
Oh sassy - - you're on to my game.
ThomsTeddyBear
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Do you think they'll run another season or just let it die?




If they bring on a second season it would be wise to take some of the suggestions posted here in the forum and put them to use!
sassychic
"Oh sassy - - you're on to my game."

hehehe...
angeedee
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Is it just me - Wendy kind of reminds me of Linda Tripp?
Anyone else see it?




LOL!!!
even I don't think wendy's that unattractive.
I mean, at least she looks female.
sassychic
"If they bring on a second season it would be wise to take some of the suggestions posted here in the forum and put them to use!"

Amen to that, Thoms!
Cindy1
If one of the designers turns out to be a plant/mole, my guess is Wendy.(remember her saying she loved watching the other designers have to suffer through the runway critiques, she could watch it all day)Wendy also has her own business(so she's established already and her appearance during "PR" was different than during New York fashion week) Remember too that the next episode previews often belie what the episode turns out to be. I recall thinking that Jay either quit or got kicked off on the basis of the "Swimsuit" episode preview. My second thought for a mole/plant is Kara Saun because she is almost too unruffled and so more professional than the others in just getting each challenge done and her creations are generally so good, no wonder she's won so many challenges.
angeedee
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If one of the designers turns out to be a plant/mole, my guess is Wendy.(remember her saying she loved watching the other designers have to suffer through the runway critiques, she could watch it all day)Wendy also has her own business(so she's established already and her appearance during "PR" was different than during New York fashion week) Remember too that the next episode previews often belie what the episode turns out to be. I recall thinking that Jay either quit or got kicked off on the basis of the "Swimsuit" episode preview. My second thought for a mole/plant is Kara Saun because she is almost too unruffled and so more professional than the others in just getting each challenge done and her creations are generally so good, no wonder she's won so many challenges.




i checked with a friend who is a reality tv junkie.
she watched two other "reality" shows on bravo: manhunt and boy meets boy.
she tells me the following:

"on manhunt, there was a mole, but the audience knew from the start of the show, and i don't remember him winning any challenges, either.
on boy meets boy, the "mole" part was that half the guys who were supposed to be gay were actually straight. the audience didn't find out until they got kicked off. so i knew about the twist from the start, but not who was involved."

I don't know if that tells us anything about how this one will pan out.
but i keep thinking about kara saun's Tshirt: "there's always a twist."
who knows what it is.
so far, it seems to be that you don't really have to be a designer to be on the show.
that's a twist for you.
ericats
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If Austin is the one eliminated during this evening's episode, is it possible that may be the best thing for him? Austin is my favorite, so I don't mean this as anything bad . . . in fact, could losing tonight's challenge work to his advantage?




I've often wondered whether one of the losing finalists with the exposure FW gives them might end up with a better contract elsewhere than the one PR is offereing?
Zanti
I just spotted this blurb on MSN ...


"Not particularly wearable, on the other hand, were the offerings from Bravo's “Project Runway” designers. Finalists Austin Scarlett, Kara Saun, Wendy Pepper and Jay McCarroll each showed capsule collections, though only three of them will be considered for the final prize. Scarlett’s ruffles, spats and unfinished seaming was an ambitious attempt, but fell flat on execution (and we're betting he’s out of the contest next week). Favorite Kara Saun presented a collection inspired by “The Aviator” that could go directly from this runway to Hollywood’s red carpet, especially her white silk gown with a fox fur wrap.

Wendy Pepper’s offerings were designed with real women’s bodies in mind. Flattering silhouettes were executed in brightly colored satins and chiffons. A bright pink dress with an asymmetric hem line definitely conveyed a “Stepford Wife” vibe, while looking modern. Jay McCarroll’s offerings were the most forward looking. Skirts layered upon pants, topped with two or three tops gave his collection an Asian feel — as though inspired by Japanese or Korean street fashion."
angeedee
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If Austin is the one eliminated during this evening's episode, is it possible that may be the best thing for him? Austin is my favorite, so I don't mean this as anything bad . . . in fact, could losing tonight's challenge work to his advantage?




I've often wondered whether one of the losing finalists with the exposure FW gives them might end up with a better contract elsewhere than the one PR is offereing?




well, it would be hard to beat $100,000 that you don't have to pay back to start your line.
the BR "internship," which according to articles posted here is really nothing more than technical support, doesn't sound that valuable.
getting your name on TV without having to pay for it is pretty good, as is getting a free NYFW runway show.
hard to beat that.
nabakov5
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As I stated earlier - Kevin may be a good designer - but he did not stand up for himself - - at anytime.

This is a cut throat business - - if he doesn't have enough confidence in himself - no one else will either.

His elimination was correct. Not for his designs - but because he did not defend them with sincerity - he did not believe in his own design.




Here's the problem i have with that arguement...."fashion is a cut-throat business"....ok...so is every over business...business is a cut-throat business....but i can't name one fashion designer that "made it" because he successfully navigated some arbitrary labyrinth of challenges where each one kept the actual competitive point of reference a secret until the very end. kevin didn't know what they were judging him on...his leadership...his design...how much or little he listened to other designers....my belief is that kevin thought that listening and incorporating the group's ideas would be the deciding factor....kevin did love his design, he said so...he said it was the one thing he was most fond of out of all the designs to that point....he was flustered on the runway...but who wouldn't be...not knowing what or how the judges wanted him to answer...not knowing whether they were building a case for or against him....i felt kevin's design was in keeping with the bullet points the team came up with....the defining factor of a collection is not that all the clothes look alike, but that they tell a story...and kevin's design told the industrialized, formulated and uniformed segment of their story....it reminded me quite a bit of the uniforms described in Orwell's 1984....that is why i believe his elimination had nothing more to do with design than it did with integrity...the show needed him out...so they cut him...simple as that.... and furthermore....a person being soft-spoken does not automatically translate into them having no confidence...kevin has already worked in the industry for many years....he could not have accomplished that without confidence...i think the confidence arguement is just a empty as the design arguement...on that episode...i can think of two designers that GRAVELY deserved to be cut other than him...and both for reasons that concern design...not arbitrary unknown reasons
sooverfashion
The Blue Ribbon to Wendy for being one of the most odious people I've had the misfortune to see. Does anyone know if she's developed a 'stategy' for facing herself in a mirror?
ThomsTeddyBear
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If Austin is the one eliminated during this evening's episode, is it possible that may be the best thing for him? Austin is my favorite, so I don't mean this as anything bad . . . in fact, could losing tonight's challenge work to his advantage?

The following are some of my reasons:

- Austin has received a lot of exposure from PR . . . I believe he's truly on his way without winning

- Imagine the attention Austin might receive from losing to Wendzilla . . . "He lost to her? OMG!" Jay and Kara wouldn't receive that kind of attention . . . they're expected to win over Wendy . . . and I believe Austin is too . . . however, the disbelief that Wendy would beat Austin might garner him more attention (and hurt the credibility of PR)

- It looks like the loser of tonight's challenge still goes on to Fashion Week as the decoy . . . I think there's a certain amount of cache to be had by being the one decoy as opposed to the three designers . . . a bit more intrigue . . . and perhaps more attention to the decoy's collection . . . Does the decoy become more of a novelty during FW?

- Also, I don't see Austin with Banana Republic . . . too stifling

Trying to look at the glass as half full . . . sometimes losers are the real winners.




Hmmm...good points! And it makes my tummy feel better! With this in mind I guess I'll feel better if he is the one to go tonight.
sooverfashion
She looks worse than Tripp pre-surgery. I think Wendy needs some 'Eternal Sunshine' to get rid of the devious, calculating personality - it's even worse than her looks and miserable expression.
littlezebra
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..but i can't name one fashion designer that "made it" because he successfully navigated some arbitrary labyrinth of challenges where each one kept the actual competitive point of reference a secret until the very end. kevin didn't know what they were judging him on...his leadership...his design...how much or little he listened to other designers....my belief is that kevin thought that listening and incorporating the group's ideas would be the deciding factor....kevin did love his design, he said so...he said it was the one thing he was most fond of out of all the designs to that point....he was flustered on the runway...but who wouldn't be...not knowing what or how the judges wanted him to answer...not knowing whether they were building a case for or against him....i felt kevin's design was in keeping with the bullet points the team came up with....the defining factor of a collection is not that all the clothes look alike, but that they tell a story...and kevin's design told the industrialized, formulated and uniformed segment of their story....it reminded me quite a bit of the uniforms described in Orwell's 1984....that is why i believe his elimination had nothing more to do with design than it did with integrity...the show needed him out...so they cut him...simple as that....




HERE HERE! I happen to be friends with a major French designer. No matter how big or small you are in the industry, everyone is trying to make a collection work. Sometimes they put their foot down about little details, sometimes they let the assistants do it. But they wouldn't be BOOTED from their own design house because one garment was less like the others in the collection. There was no reason for that elimination because there is no example of that in the fashion business. Your backers don't tell you, "make this one piece more like the rest or your 'OUT'" - that's just BS.

Also, remember Tim specifically asking Wendy how she felt about Kevin as a leader and would she be willing to speak about it to the judges. Even Wendy admits herself in her own commentary on her website - she thought she could exploit this weakness- obviously not sure her design talent was as strong as his - gotta take 'em out however you can.

I checked the end of the last Tivo'ed episode and it CLEARLY states that the judges make their decisions in cooperation with the producers. One of the main producers is Heidi Klum herself. And, hey, just because she's a top model doesn't necessarily mean she's a fashion authority. As my friend once told an ornery - but drop dead gorgeous - model in a fitting, when she said, "this isn't my style" - he responded, "[expletive deleted] you haven't got a STYLE!"
sassychic
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I just spotted this blurb on MSN ...


"Not particularly wearable, on the other hand, were the offerings from Bravo's “Project Runway” designers. Finalists Austin Scarlett, Kara Saun, Wendy Pepper and Jay McCarroll each showed capsule collections, though only three of them will be considered for the final prize. Scarlett’s ruffles, spats and unfinished seaming was an ambitious attempt, but fell flat on execution (and we're betting he’s out of the contest next week). Favorite Kara Saun presented a collection inspired by “The Aviator” that could go directly from this runway to Hollywood’s red carpet, especially her white silk gown with a fox fur wrap.

Wendy Pepper’s offerings were designed with real women’s bodies in mind. Flattering silhouettes were executed in brightly colored satins and chiffons. A bright pink dress with an asymmetric hem line definitely conveyed a “Stepford Wife” vibe, while looking modern. Jay McCarroll’s offerings were the most forward looking. Skirts layered upon pants, topped with two or three tops gave his collection an Asian feel — as though inspired by Japanese or Korean street fashion."






I wonder if Kara Saun didn't pull a very smart move on saying her collection is based on the "The Aviator" movie. Whether she is "out" or "in" after tonight, the Avivator is up for several Academy Awards including Kate Blanchete who played Hepburn and the Kara's dresses have an updated Hepburn look. How fun would that be as they do the red carpet thing..." ...and who designed your dress?" ...
angeedee
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She looks worse than Tripp pre-surgery. I think Wendy needs some 'Eternal Sunshine' to get rid of the devious, calculating personality - it's even worse than her looks and miserable expression.




i don't think that physically she's that unattractive.
i think she has pretty eyes.
i think the problem is that her personality colors the way we see her.
i know all the arguments about editing and all that. but i don't think they're dubbing the words that are coming out of her mouth.
also, her lack of personal style really makes her look less attractive than she could. apparently the turquoise eyeshadow was post-PR, but she always had that dye job.
thank goodness she lost it for NYFW.

come to think of it, maybe all those issues are why linda tripp seems so unattractive................

nah, that's one ugly lady.
ThomsTeddyBear
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I checked the end of the last Tivo'ed episode and it CLEARLY states that the judges make their decisions in cooperation with the producers. One of the main producers is Heidi Klum herself. And, hey, just because she's a top model doesn't necessarily mean she's a fashion authority. As my friend once told an ornery - but drop dead gorgeous - model in a fitting, when she said, "this isn't my style" - he responded, "[expletive deleted] you haven't got a STYLE!"




ooo, dayum! LOL!
ericats
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As my friend once told an ornery - but drop dead gorgeous - model in a fitting, when she said, "this isn't my style" - he responded, "[expletive deleted] you haven't got a STYLE!"




Had a great laugh! I'm afraid that gorgeous, ornery model set herself up for that one!
sarahcatherine
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I wonder if Kara Saun didn't pull a very smart move on saying her collection is based on the "The Aviator" movie. Whether she is "out" or "in" after tonight, the Avivator is up for several Academy Awards including Kate Blanchete who played Hepburn and the Kara's dresses have an updated Hepburn look. How fun would that be as they do the red carpet thing..." ...and who designed your dress?" ...




I had just been staring at the sponsors bit on the website, wondering why Miramax hadn't played a bigger role when...hey wait a minute, didn't Miramax produce The Aviator? Why yes, yes they did.

Either this is very suspicious, or Kara Saun was incredibly brilliant. It's certainly not surprising that she would be drawn to the style of the film...but...does it seem weird to anyone else that her inspiration would be a movie produced by one of the sponsors of the show?
oscar
To be Frankly Honest - - I still don't see anything wrong with Wendy's fashions that were shown for this collection.

I actually think they were quite good.

I will not let my emotions interfere with my fashion assessment.
Loomchick
I hadn't seen this article before . . . It's a bit out-of-date (written when six designers were left)

http://slate.msn.com/id/2112645/

I really loved this . . . descriptive and spot-on

"The dark-horse contender is Wendy Pepper, a marginally talented designer but the only one who seems to have a developed strategy: She cultivates the persona of a small-town everymom while behaving as monstrously as the Joan Crawford character in Mommie Dearest."
angeedee
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I wonder if Kara Saun didn't pull a very smart move on saying her collection is based on the "The Aviator" movie. Whether she is "out" or "in" after tonight, the Avivator is up for several Academy Awards including Kate Blanchete who played Hepburn and the Kara's dresses have an updated Hepburn look. How fun would that be as they do the red carpet thing..." ...and who designed your dress?" ...




I had just been staring at the sponsors bit on the website, wondering why Miramax hadn't played a bigger role when...hey wait a minute, didn't Miramax produce The Aviator? Why yes, yes they did.

Either this is very suspicious, or Kara Saun was incredibly brilliant. It's certainly not surprising that she would be drawn to the style of the film...but...does it seem weird to anyone else that her inspiration would be a movie produced by one of the sponsors of the show?




i thought some other house did the aviator, but i'm sure you're correct.

i think that's called "knowing your market"
she's pretty smart, eh?
kara always seems to think the most of any of them.......
birdaileen
sc, YOU are one smart lady for connecting these facts. right on.
ericats
Before the next round of Wendy crap hits the fan I wanted to keep it on a positive note: has anyone heard about Kevin's show that was today (or maybe it's tonight?) I would liked to have gone.
oscar
I saw the same eps you did - - and Kevin was very timid and not forthcoming in supporting his designs.

That is just fact. It had nothing to do with anyone else.
angeedee
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To be Frankly Honest - - I still don't see anything wrong with Wendy's fashions that were shown for this collection.

I actually think they were quite good.

I will not let my emotions interfere with my fashion assessment.




LOL!!
oscar, you're a hoot!!
I wonder if the fashion writers were speaking from emotion when they made those comments about her dangling zipper............

and believe me, the only emotion talking when I make comments about wendy's post office shorts is fear that someday I might wake up a postal worker and have to wear them in public...........
sarahcatherine
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i thought some other house did the aviator, but i'm sure you're correct.

i think that's called "knowing your market"
she's pretty smart, eh?
kara always seems to think the most of any of them.......




I wasn't positive so I went and looked at imdb.com Not sure if Miramax holds the top production name, but they definitely put money into it.

I really want to think that it was Kara being smart, but this little red flag is waving, wondering if she's the decoy and they used her collection as a means of promotion. The only thing keeping me from believing it is not thinking Kara would compromise herself or her designs in that way.

Yeah, we'll go with her being the brightest bulb in the batch and using her smarts as well as her talent to get ahead.
sassychic
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I wonder if Kara Saun didn't pull a very smart move on saying her collection is based on the "The Aviator" movie. Whether she is "out" or "in" after tonight, the Avivator is up for several Academy Awards including Kate Blanchete who played Hepburn and the Kara's dresses have an updated Hepburn look. How fun would that be as they do the red carpet thing..." ...and who designed your dress?" ...




I had just been staring at the sponsors bit on the website, wondering why Miramax hadn't played a bigger role when...hey wait a minute, didn't Miramax produce The Aviator? Why yes, yes they did.

Either this is very suspicious, or Kara Saun was incredibly brilliant. It's certainly not surprising that she would be drawn to the style of the film...but...does it seem weird to anyone else that her inspiration would be a movie produced by one of the sponsors of the show?




OR could you say that because Miramax is a sponsor she saw and locked onto the opportunity? ooooo, the intrique! or maybe the next reality series should be called...who are the saps?
lisakaz
I hear ya. The issue is more complex with the Kevin fans and a few other people who are typically thought more talented than Cruella. The remark about one of Austin's dresses being part of his portfolio seems to stand out to me, though. I'd love to be wrong but I can't watch tonight and won't unless I hear what I want to hear from someone.

lk
oscar
Angee - - does Wendy have hanging zippers in her runway collection?

My guess is NO!
sarahcatherine
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OR could you say that because Miramax is a sponsor she saw and locked onto the opportunity? ooooo, the intrique! or maybe the next reality series should be called...who are the saps?




Argh...this is going to make me bonkers, because it's the kind of thing that won't be known/answered. No, no...just going to believe that Kara is savvy enough to see the opportunity and take full advantage in a positive light.

RatsinfratsinstupidconnectionsthatcalltoquestionpeopleIlike'sintegrity...bah.
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