Maybe people *are* watching totally different shows....they're sending one show to some states, and another to others.
Seriously, I didn't see Wendy snatch the bolt of fabric from Kara Saun. From the way they filmed it, it wasn't clear to me at all who looked at it first (or for that matter planned on that particular color -- it would be very Wendy to just use the color of the shirt O'Dell was wearing to begin with. And she asked about the color). And it wasn't clear to me that Wendy used that particular piece. I mean, maybe she did, but it seemed that PR edited that piece to display the most ambiguity.
Okay, she uses the f-word. You know, I'm thinking that's probably true of multiple contestants.
And what Wendy actually said at the end was that she enjoyed watching people who had treated her poorly squirm. People here want to see *her* squirm, because they think she's a jerk, so why is it so sick that she'd want to see people *she* dislikes squirm? And does anyone really believe that Jay -- who by his own account "hates" Wendy -- doesn't want to see Wendy squirm? That's not sick, in my opinion, that's human nature.
In Wendy's rant, she also talked about how talented Kara Saun is, and how she (Kara) was well on her way to winning. So while Kara is going on in front of Wendy about how "people" aren't confident in their own ability, and Wendy is swearing up a storm, talking about how Kara is talented enough (and Wendy has come in second to last), and wondering why Kara cares -- I don't see that as particular one-sided.
I'm no big fan of Wendy, I just think that the others are getting a free pass for some pretty juvenile behavior. To some degree, I think that part of the conflict -- assuming it's genuine -- on the show is that the other designers really wanted the "best" designers to get to the top three, and since that's not how the show is structured, it can be really frustrating. I think the elimination of -- who was it, with the wedding dress? -- Nora, that's it, was really surprising to people, and even frustrating to see someone like Robert or Wendy stick around, when Nora left. It's frustrating that this is about cheesy challenges, and that people like Sarah Hudson, Nancy O'Dell, and the BR woman have a say. As for Wendy, she sees herself (at least from what she's said) as in over her head, so that brings out the worst in her. She's close enough that she can imagine winning, and she's intensely competitive, and admittedly envious of others, but she doesn't really seem to think she deserves it, so I think it brings out a really unpleasant side sometimes.
Or, alternatively, there's something going on behind the scenes that we're not seeing....Wendy is more awful behind the scenes, or someone else is, or someone is sabatoging someone. I would be willing to bet that some of what we see on tv (gasp) is misleading, one way or the other.
But I wouldn't want any of these people over for dinner....for starters....
Wendy: given to emotional outbursts, moments of intense insecurity coupled with ambition, over-analytical about the competition, envious of what she freely admits is Kara's talent
Austin: claims to be willing to eliminate himself rather than someone else (when he's totally willing to eliminate someone else). Complains about Robert and about Wendy. Although, actually, I thought Austin was the most calm about other people -- the least likely to get caught up in the drama, in part just because he was so focused on, well, Austin. Dinner would be boring, because it would be all about the beauty Austin brings to the world with his specialty outfits.
Jay: pretty nasty stuff about Austin's behavior on Page 6 night. Makes fun of Wendy's lack of makeup, says he "hates" her. Complaints about Robert, and about Kevin's leadership. Says that Austin is a costume designer. Actually, I really like Jay's designs -- either Jay or Kara winning would be fine with me -- and I think he seems like a generally nice, fun guy -- but he has said some pretty negative stuff. He loves Kara (or so he says), but others are fair game.
Kara: Wonders out loud, on tape, why Robert is still in the competition. Joins others in laughing about Wendy. Openly unable to act graciously after her own choices for the top 3 aren't realized. (I thought Kara was unfailingly polite until about 2 weeks ago, but I agree with those who say she seemed really rattled last week).
I'm sure these people are nicer in real life, when the pressure is off (though one wonders why anyone would behave this way on camera -- but of course, people who wouldn't probably wouldn't go on reality tv shows.) But this week, I wouldn't really want to get in their way in any way. I'd much rather hang out with, say, Robert, or Kevin.
And, as a general comment on this discussion, I believe that we sure as heck don't know which of the contestants has been faithful in their relationships. (As if that somehow matters...)
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i love Jay! i love that he's fun and crazy but also task oriented. i really like his humor on things. and his oringinality! he truely deserves to win. i hope wendy does not.
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Maybe people *are* watching totally different shows....they're sending one show to some states, and another to others.
I guess that's why the episode shown here in Seattle had runway fashions laden with polar fleece . . . although, some of the designers opted for relaxed style jeans, while others went for a more khaki twill slack look
Kara Saun's plunging neckline in flannel looked a bit odd . . . but, Jay pulled off a Microsoft high-tech look . . . Austin's tribute to the original Italian influence of Starbucks was . . . how do I say this . . . costumey . . . Wendy had a nice try at a uniform for an Amazon.com shipping clerk using bubble wrap and duct tape.
oh my god looks like kevin did a fashion show last night. and his afterparty was really cool, with big celebs and all. way to go kevin! cant wait to see the line.
http://www.nydailynews.com/02-10-2005/news...2p-239390c.html
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My suggestion for Wendy's best career move would be to design for a Hollywood film studio. She doesn't need vision there. But her knack for keenly understanding the client's vision would be appreciated. She would get plenty of feedback and opportunities to revise her work, which she does require. Yet her well-developed listening skills would be highly valued. Tim tried to give everyone feedback. Wendy was one of the few who listened to him, accepted it, and made changes accordingly. I don't share her strategy in the game, but I am making a comment of how she might professionally fit into the fashion industry. Wasn't there that Edith lady who was famous for being such a designer? I believe she was also criticized for not being enough of a visionary, but she certainly carved out a special niche. If Wendy feels valued and appreciated, her confidence might rise and perhaps her ethics as well.
And I think that's part of the reason why there's such a backlash against her on this board -- people are always threatened by intelligent, loner types. She definitely dances to the beat of her own drum, and I admire her for speaking the truth when she had the opportunity to do so. I predicted that she would be in the final three and that one-trick-Austin would be cut, and so it is. She's far more flexible than he is, and that versatility makes her the stronger designer.
That's not why there's a Wendy backlash. W is not that intelligent; she plays a clumsy game of Survivor and then can't take it when she's the victim, although when she victimizes others, the pro-Wendys feel that she's being honest. I've said this many times on this board - Wendy is not an honest person. Just because she complains to camera, doesn't mean that she's honest with herself or others. Kara Saun has so much more business acumen, and Jay has so much more social grace, than Wendy's aforementioned "intelligence." People think Wendy is intelligent for the simple fact that she can articulate her own distorted feelings - this doesn't mean that she is necessarily a good person.
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Hey all,
I've been trying to figure out what frames Robert has been wearing throughout the episodes. I've been looking forever and those are the frames I've gotta have. Any help?
They look like Paul Smith.
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OK, this makes NO SENSE. How can she be the one who isnt willing to play games when you hear all of them talking on the show she is always the ONLY one talking about games and other then a few snippy moments, nobody else had serious problems. She is mean and nasty. Her designs are crap (if you want someone to design for function, then you enjoy your Jaclyn Smith designs all you need to. Bring back the legging!!) I would be hostle to her too!Quote:
Or, she leaves because the other designers are being immature, cruel, nasty, and disrespectful to her--as they have done week after week, just because she isn't willing to play their games.
Katey's right. If you watch all 10 episodes, the only person who mentions games and strategy and pulling people down so she can step over them is Pepper. I bet you just saw her reacting to what she THOUGHT people were thinking of her - she created her own circle of hell; too bad she had to pull people like Kevin and Austin down with her. They was robbed!
I love the show. My favorite designer not doubt about it, Kara Saun. She is great. Her sense of style is exquisite. She had the look, the name and the style for a famous designer. Good Look!
Wendy is an imitation of a designer. Her attitude is awful and as a person, I don't think she deserve the to win. Well, she don't had any skill as a designer.
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Wendy is an imitation of a designer. Her attitude is awful and as a person, I don't think she deserve the to win. Well, she don't had any skill as a designer.
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To be honest, I'm a bit tired of the 'love-fest' for Kara. Yes, she's talented, but all of her pieces are starting to look the same. I know! a collection is suppose to have a look, but when a piece from 50 years in the future looks the same as a postal outfit, except for color and texture, I start to worry.
I agree! I thought that since the "Envy" challenge, that she "designed" yet another dress with that wide low-cut neckline that is only flattering to a model with no chest. I measure 36DD. and my boobs would have NO coverage whatsoever in her outfits...I still think tool bag Wendy should have been axed ages ago.
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Wendy works with the client, listens, doesn't play games, has a grip on reality... But, please note, too, that she has won the two most 'commercial' challenges, the most high profile (the black dress in banana republic and the emmy dress) She's ready for the fashion world! As much as it might pain some to admit it, there is room in this world for non-glamorous, practical people!
Are you HIGH??? Has a GRIP ON REALITY??? DOESN'T PLAY GAMES??? Are you watching the same show? And have you seen the horrid designs on her website? I wouldn't dress my enemy in her unfinished, 80's ionspired crap. Even her models look hideous in her creations!! Look at the pic with the dog in "Fashion 2". Oh, and by the way, the challenge was for the GRAMMY AWARDS, NOT the Emmys.....
Ciao, Adios and Adieu "Hausfrau" BaaBaa WaaWaa! Go back to your "Couch Potato" life eating bon-bons, watching "The P-U" and "chillin' out" daily with Ofrah's "Stepford Wives" club meetings!
Go Wendy!!
The proof is in the pudding. If anyone wants to really know who will be successful as a designer in real life, then patience will be your only path. Whoever wins the competition matters little. 100 grand in seed money (in terms of building a true fashion house) is very little capitol to start off with. If you know the real fashion business, especially here in NYC, you will know, it's not so much about seed money, as it is about distribution contracts. The designer who can A) create a buzz about himself/herself and thier line of clothes, 
Which one will be smart enough to ally themselves with someone with true business acumen inside the industry, and C) Which designer will convince major Dept. Stores (Bloomingdales, Bergdorph's, etc, to sign a distribution deal with them. The designer who can tackle these obstacles will prove to be the best of the bunch.
Which one will be smart enough to ally themselves with someone with true business acumen inside the industry, and C) Which designer will convince major Dept. Stores (Bloomingdales, Bergdorph's, etc, to sign a distribution deal with them. The designer who can tackle these obstacles will prove to be the best of the bunch.
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« Wendy Pepper is a sad little woman... majored in Anthropology
Hey, I majored in Anthropology at the BA level. WTH? (Smile)
But I do have to wonder…while an Anthropologist is not going to make a good (or bad) designer…I genuinely wonder why, as an Anthropologist, a study that opens ones self to a plethora of culture…why she did not pull more from her Anthropological experiences.
I mean, culturally speaking, there are so many wonderful textures, patterns, colors and shapes available… I think she could have made an interesting impression by using the many facets of varied cultures to create unique and exotic pieces.
Just my two yen…spend it however you like. (Smile)
Yuna,
Good Point! I have a minor in Anthro. It would have been nice to see a bit more "World flavor", but judging from thier own personnal styles. If anyone of them was going to go "ethnic ecclectic" (and done it well), I think it would have been Kara.
Good Point! I have a minor in Anthro. It would have been nice to see a bit more "World flavor", but judging from thier own personnal styles. If anyone of them was going to go "ethnic ecclectic" (and done it well), I think it would have been Kara.
Oh, and btw… I don’t know if this has been posted (have not seen it)… never the less…
For all of the fans of Vanessa here is her web site:
www.vanessariley.com
And after looking at her Autumn/Winter 2005 collection… I really, really wished she would have been given a better chance. I think she could have made top four.
My two yen...blah, blah, blah...
For all of the fans of Vanessa here is her web site:
www.vanessariley.com
And after looking at her Autumn/Winter 2005 collection… I really, really wished she would have been given a better chance. I think she could have made top four.
My two yen...blah, blah, blah...
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I'm not angry that Austin was out, but that last challenge was so ridiculous! And to have the decision made by Nancy O'Dell??? Who the hell is she? This judging for the last challenge should have reflected who over the course of the entire show deserved to compete at fashion week. Plain and simple. To give Nancy that power was just absurd. And, she didn't like any of the dresses as they were presented. Every single one needed tweaking, she said. On Wendy's, she would have gotten rid of the feathers and sequins. Ok, so then what would she have had? I was never bowled over by Austin, but he is a better designer than Wendy. He just is. And I loved how Nina actually stood up for him and said some really beautiful things about him. He got to show in Fashion Week so I guess that's good, but he really deserved to compete. What makes this show so special is that these people have a skill that most of us don't have. They actually have talent. To have such big names in the industry like Michael Kors, Betsy Johnson and Patricia Field judge it and then have someone like Nancy O'Dell make the final call just cheapens it. Sad but typical.
My thoughts exactly. What an odd final challenge -- to have so much of it hang on someone who's not even part of the fashion world. (I have no idea who Nancy O'Dell is; never saw her before Wednesday night.) For such a creative show, they sure pulled a boner on that one.
Having said that, I do think Austin was the weakest in that round for reasons that others have stated -- he was supposed to design a dress for a client, and he just seems incapable of doing this. He designs for a fantasy inside his head. It's sometimes a very pretty fantasy, occasionally even beautiful (I still think about his BR dress), but I'm not sure how far he'll go without being able to take into consideration the commercial angle -- which means carefully listening to your target market and *then* adding your own original stamp.
Kara has always done this, and Jay -- amazingly enough -- seems to also be doing it of late. He has been the true surprise to me in this whole competition. I wrote him off early on, but then he completely changed my opinion of him. It started with that Chrysler building dress, which was just incredible -- I was stunned by it. And he just got better from there.
As for Wendy, I don't think her designs are usually awful (with exceptions, like the postal uniform). I looked at her website, and her stuff strikes me very much as the kind of thing a certain kind of woman would wear. Her style has a traditional Southern sensibility to me; I've seen it for years at weddings and country club gatherings. I don't begrudge her for designing for that set, though it certainly isn't creative or remotely original. I *do* begrudge her for being a nasty sociopath, but others have already discussed that at length. I feel the most let down by Wendy, because I was really rooting for her initially. I wanted her to make it. My husband had her figured out way before I did; I used to defend her weekly, though I began to get an inkling that he was right. The final eye-opener for me was the Morgan incident; after that, I knew she was poisonous.
I was also struck by how much help Tim gave Wendy during the past two competitions; that's the first time I thought that maybe the producers were manipulating things for dramatic value. Imagine -- *gasp* -- that it's actually about money and not about creativity after all. OK, I'm naive. But as they say, fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice ... I won't be as gullible with the next Project Runway (and definitely won't be such a rabid fan again).
Finally, in case this isn't long enough, does anyone else think the producers gave Austin a slot at Fashion Week in part because he is so talented and popular with viewers? I wonder if they'll even end up showing some of his stuff in the final episode, just to make fans happy. It would be a nice gesture.
-- Twitchly
Oh, and furthermore, I thought Wendy's Grammys dress made her model look like a waddling duck from behind. Feathers right below one's posterior aren't generally terribly flattering. I would LOVE to see a woman with an ample butt wear that dress -- what a riot!
If Bob Mackie and YSL had a love child, he would be named Austin Scarlet. Everyone in the Fashion biz, used to dog out Bob Mackie for being a "Custome Designer" and yet time proved him to be one of the most financially successful fashion houses in America. Cher still won't breathe on stage without him!!! Austin has an incredible gift, he can combine the artistry and creativity of Bob Mackie with that of the sleek style, and grace of YSL. Anyone who has the talent to achieve this, is called not only a designer, but a Designer Extroidinare!!
Sorry I meant "Costume Designer" Typing is not my forteit
It was utterly depressing to me that Wendy made it to the final three. It was as if some of the validity of the show vanished and made me think of Kevin's parting comments on being scammed.
There are few sane persons who would think that Wendy truly has talent as a designer. She's skated through because others with more vision made huge blunders (Kevin's 2055 outfit) or the guest judges, ones who are not in the fashion business liked something about her outfit (the postal uniform, Nancy O'Dell's Grammy dress which probably would have bombed if not for Tim's help). Had Austin consented to make this last design a little more contemporary....sigh. This last challenge was Austin's to lose as he was reprimanded time and again about being less costumey.
Although my favorite designers are Jay and Kara Saun (each tied at number one in my book), I would have loved to see a full line of Austin's clothes without the constraints of the challenges.
I don't understand the Wendy defenders here. Her designs are mediocre, her attitude horrendous. And if she's that intelligent why is she plotting as if this were Survivor where physical challenges and alliances are necessary to survive instead of the talent of her designs. She's only good enough to barely make it, playing it safe, while some took chances and bombed.
There are few sane persons who would think that Wendy truly has talent as a designer. She's skated through because others with more vision made huge blunders (Kevin's 2055 outfit) or the guest judges, ones who are not in the fashion business liked something about her outfit (the postal uniform, Nancy O'Dell's Grammy dress which probably would have bombed if not for Tim's help). Had Austin consented to make this last design a little more contemporary....sigh. This last challenge was Austin's to lose as he was reprimanded time and again about being less costumey.
Although my favorite designers are Jay and Kara Saun (each tied at number one in my book), I would have loved to see a full line of Austin's clothes without the constraints of the challenges.
I don't understand the Wendy defenders here. Her designs are mediocre, her attitude horrendous. And if she's that intelligent why is she plotting as if this were Survivor where physical challenges and alliances are necessary to survive instead of the talent of her designs. She's only good enough to barely make it, playing it safe, while some took chances and bombed.
Austin was given a full runway show during fashion week, along with Kara, Jay, and that other one who thinks she can actually design (I will never forget Wendy's "Fruit Skirt", my 10 year old neice could design better, and has! If you want to see Austin's Runway show at Fashion Week go to www.gettyimages.com click on the Editorial and then type in Project Runway in the Search box. The have pics from everyone's show.
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Ciao, Adios and Adieu "Hausfrau" BaaBaa WaaWaa! Go back to your "Couch Potato" life eating bon-bons, watching "The P-U" and "chillin' out" daily with Ofrah's "Stepford Wives" club meetings!
Did I hit a nerve Saxon? Poor thing - you must be miserable. Dead end job got ya down? You probably get much pleasure seeing other miserable people, like Wendy, succeed at others expense.
Well, I'd love to stay and chat since you seem so intelligent, but the nanny is here and the cleaning ladies are coming. I have to get to my personal training session and philanthropy meetings before "Ofrah" is on! Maybe I'll have time to shop today as well - looks like a great day!!
Idiot.
And I just have to add, even though I think Jay's show was best overall. No one had more beautiful gowns than Austin. Perfection walking.
I happen to think it's adorable that there is a "Housewife in Iowa" that takes such a keen interest in Fashion. Keep on Keepin on iowahousewife
for those who are interested, Julia has been on the models board a few times and is answering questions about working with jay, why she missed the post office show, etc. very informative and she seems very sweet!
i don't understand why they bothered with the whole elimination process when austin got to show his collection at fashion week as well?? what was the point?? also i agree with you guys - wendy got lucky in the end but her attitude and clothes are not worth our time. good luck to jay and kara!! great collections on NY fashion week!!
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I couldn't believe Wendy won on Wednesday! Does anyone else feel like smacking that smug look off Wendy's face? She's evil. Also, I have always thought that Wendy put that mustache on her child's picture so she could add more drama. I don't believe anyone else would have wasted their time marking up that photo. Who knows!
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I did not know about the forum. I am seriously addicted to watching them. I can't get into the Gal Pals so much, not yet anyway. A student of mine last year said she knew Carson. Small world. When I heard about a show for girls, I was hoping the Fab Five would be the ones doing it. I guess only so much of them can go around. Plus, I just CAN'T shave my legs "with the grain." I'd never get the hair off. And I like a dull(er) razor, too.
They seem so at ease doing anything. Plus they're sharp minded.
I guess marrying one of 'em is the sole recourse when you don't have a bf who could be a client of theirs. I could use some gaydar and tips to figure out what to do about my crush on my chiropractor, too...
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lol, well if you can stand people as nutty as me, come on over to the QE forum and get to know the others!
Apparently Austin was given a Runway Show during Fashion Week because the episode in which he was elimnated did not air until after Fashion Week had already started. The Producers of the show did not want the Press to be the one to break the suprise. So to keep everyone from knowing ahead of time, all four finalists were given the opportunity to show thier lines
Though I'm not so much of a Wendy-hater, more like a Wendy-Ambiviliant. But the thought did cross my mind, that Wendy herself scribbled on her daughters picture. It just seemed like she was pulling for some sympathy. And that whole thing about "This is the only picture, I have, there are no copies, no negatives", it just seemed to overdone and really ridiculous. What parent, who has a picute of thier child, that they prize above all others, would not get a copy made, or have negatives for it. And if they did'nt, why on earth take that one picture that "Cannot be replaced" with you on a trip. Just does not have the ring of truth to it. But that's just my opinion
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No, I don't believe I'm contradicting myself. Survivor is based on out maneuvering (out playing) all others. This show is supposed to be based on talent. And I haven't gone after Austin, Jay, etc. because I like them. As I've previously posted, I like Austin because he is so retro (ah, the glamour of old Hollywood) and Jay is just so Jay. Truth be told, his designs are the most innovative. Kara's designs don't change much from show to show. Her dresses were mostly same old same old. If you don't believe me, watch the reruns. And I back up my statement that she's a wolf in sheep's clothing. Funny how her 'help' hurt the recipient in the long run. But she is clever... she made a common enemy of Wendy. A whisper here - a remark there. Like I said, she is insidious. And the most ambitious. She said herself she's been trying over 10 years to make it in New York. But she'll lose this one. Wendy will win.
Thanks for the explanation. But if Wendy wins chaos will follow. She really did not deserve to get this far when it was supposed to be about true talent - or so they made it seem. After a while it was blatantly obvious that it wasn't about talent. Does she have some? Yes, I'll admit she can pull off a nice-looking outfit every blue moon; but does she deserve to have made it to Fashion Week? No.
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Get the f... out!! You really met them? (My jaw is still on the floor). You've got to email me @ aceveltri@yahoo.com. I had no idea there was this little group for addicts like myself. My husband says that in my next life I am going to come back as a gay man. I LOVE the fab five and if you had any idea how many entries I did online to try to meet them. I would kill to meet them. BTW - I think I would love to marry Carson - his sense of humor cracks me up!
Seriously - email me so I can catch up with you and the addicts. I HAVE to know how to get a phone call or (can barely breathe at the thought) how to meet them!
I keep writing them telling them I'd pay for everything if they would come to IA and make over my hubby!
LOL, I'm serious! And I swear, you could never meet any nicer celebrities! I wrote down your email addy and will email this evening from home where I have time to recall it all
I was heartbroken when Austin was eliminated, he deserved to be there. Better than Wendy, who I personally believe has no talent at all.
One thing is Austin, has such a strong sense of who he is that sometimes doesn't work to much for him. It's excellent having so clear your style, but you have to be able to met the needs of your clients, sometimes compromising your personal opinion.
Austin is young and he would learn it and I am sure he is going to be one of the most famous desingners in the World.
Good luck Austin.
One thing is Austin, has such a strong sense of who he is that sometimes doesn't work to much for him. It's excellent having so clear your style, but you have to be able to met the needs of your clients, sometimes compromising your personal opinion.
Austin is young and he would learn it and I am sure he is going to be one of the most famous desingners in the World.
Good luck Austin.
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I happen to think it's adorable that there is a "Housewife in Iowa" that takes such a keen interest in Fashion. Keep on Keepin on iowahousewife
Thanks, Wayne!
I have to laugh, though - I do love fashion, but have to admit that what I see in the mags and what I can find here differ greatly. Heck, by the time it gets here or is readily accessible - anyone on the coasts has been able to get it for a year or more. It is "so last season" by the time it hits middle America!! (for instance - Uggs just got here this winter - after I'd been laughed at for a year) Oh well, I love the glamourous stuff, but truly - where will I wear that stuff in small town Iowa? When I do get glammed up (like tonight for a big fundraising dinner and comedy show here), most of the time I get snickered at by the mainly jean and holiday sweater wearing crowd. For the most part any form of polyester or rayon blend, black pant-suit is the norm. Not for me, I say - as in all things, message boards included - you have to be you and accept that you can't please everyone. (So why try - right?)
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Finally, in case this isn't long enough, does anyone else think the producers gave Austin a slot at Fashion Week in part because he is so talented and popular with viewers? I wonder if they'll even end up showing some of his stuff in the final episode, just to make fans happy. It would be a nice gesture.
No, the timing of the 9th episode and Fashion Week was screwed up (PR runway show before revelation of the final 3) Heidi stated at the show that one of the designers was a decoy so that we wouldn't know who the final three were. But it got out that the Bravo crew was not filming Austin's collection so many people knew last Friday that Austin was the elimination designer.
It has also been said that Austin did not design a collection for Fashion Week and that he used a collection that he had designed earlier.
Great post live. Do you think that Wendy's problems stem from a lack of design education? Since she does seem to take criticism to heart and do something about it. Or is it hopeless unless someone has that vision of what they want to do. (BTW, totally agree with your assessment of the others. I wrote in another post that I can always tell a Jay design, but not always a Kara S., even though hers are always well executed. )
iowahouswife, your Fabu. Don't let anybody tell you different. Though I've lived in NYC for 2 long now, I was born in a small town down in Georgia. So I know both sides of the coin. You should see the looks I get, when I go back down south to visit relatives!!! Life is short, be who you are, and express it to the full!!!!!!
SO sad to see Austin go. I loved all his fashions and ideas. Looking forward to seeing his work, and hopefully it will impact the fashion world.
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Apparently Austin was given a Runway Show during Fashion Week because the episode in which he was elimnated did not air until after Fashion Week had already started. The Producers of the show did not want the Press to be the one to break the suprise. So to keep everyone from knowing ahead of time, all four finalists were given the opportunity to show thier lines
Yes, Austin was at Fashion Week but we've speculated on the board that maybe that was an older collection he did? Or that someone had seen one of the dresses in his portfolio before the show? Maybe someone can comment here as I don't remember exactly. In any case, it was completely boneheadedly STUPID for Bravo to time this show the way they did with Fashion Week and to ask someone to act as a decoy! I'd tell them where to stick it. (People on the board were discussing a week ago that Austin was likely to be eliminated because CNN noted that his collection wasn't filmed.) Nice suspense, Bravo!
On another note, I would suggest everyone do this: Go back and look at the "Grammy" dresses. Look closely at Austin's and at Wendy's and the others. Watching the show, I thought Austin's was too glamorous but I think we as viewers are manipulated by the 'script' into seeing things a certain way (he admitted himself he 'does glamour'). That dress, on Martinique, is STUNNING. Gorgeous, sexy and edgy. I could easily see Beyonce in it, or any of a number of female artists. I looked again at Kara Saun's design and must admit that this is not my favorite things she's done. I didn't like the pants at all and the neckline, as many have pointed out, is quite similar to the wedding gown. On to Jay - what the hell was so wrong with the top? I don't get it! I thought it looked cool. If there was a lot more going on in the top, it would have taken away from the skirt or look (in Tim's words to Wendy) like "too many looks". For Wendy's - it was cute. That's all - cute. You can go buy the shirt at Marshall's for $14.97 - talk about something that's been seen! The skirt was okay if that's what you're into. Overall, the look was - cute. BUT NOT WORTH WINNING AND GOING TO FASHION WEEK NANCY ODELL!!!!!
ericats got it mostly right. With the exception being Austin did indeed design an entire runway show (pictures at gettyimages.com), I read a post which speculated that he "Borrowed" heavily from his own portfolio. But that was just an opinion, not a fact. (And for that matter, which designer in business today does not borrow from their past works?)It is too bad though, that Bravo won't be airing Austin's show. His gowns were divine!!!!!
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Where do we see PIX of the show?????????
CNN has a video of the runway show itself available for download in it's Entertainment section (look under Fashion Week). You have to sign up for their video service to get it (but you can do a free 14-day trial, just remember to cancel so you don't get charged the monthly $14.95 fee).
Thanks for the info!
yes, it is very sad to see austin leaving, but the young talented designer has just begun his journey and i wish all the best for him.
Now let's talk about Wendy. The only reason that she could survive like a "cockroach" (quoted by Jay) is because Bravo wants to boost its viewing rate. I mean overall it is still a reality tv. Bravo wants the drama, the juicy gossips, and the ugly fights. That's why they need to keep the angels (i.e., Kara, Jay, Austin, Rob) as well as the Devil (no need to mention HER name ). Her appearance on the Finale only shows how ugly people can get when they struggle to survive. If you have watched the Grammy dress episode, you should know that her goal to win the challenges is not to prove her skills and talents, but to hurt the people (kara)with real skills and talents. Her jealousy and evil mind will get her no where, but to the eternity of condemnation by us beloved viewers.
Now let's talk about Wendy. The only reason that she could survive like a "cockroach" (quoted by Jay) is because Bravo wants to boost its viewing rate. I mean overall it is still a reality tv. Bravo wants the drama, the juicy gossips, and the ugly fights. That's why they need to keep the angels (i.e., Kara, Jay, Austin, Rob) as well as the Devil (no need to mention HER name ). Her appearance on the Finale only shows how ugly people can get when they struggle to survive. If you have watched the Grammy dress episode, you should know that her goal to win the challenges is not to prove her skills and talents, but to hurt the people (kara)with real skills and talents. Her jealousy and evil mind will get her no where, but to the eternity of condemnation by us beloved viewers.
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Does anyone have an example of Kara Saun being out-right cruel to Wendy?
No, but give the Wendy-lovers a moment and they'll think of something.
Well we have had "Project Greenlight" for movies, now we have all thrilled to "Project Runway", I wonder whats next?
"Project [expletive deleted]" perhaps.... I can see the contestants now, competing to see who can walk the streets the farthest, with the highest (Clear see through platic, of course) Heels!!!!
And since this site can often be a bit catty, If there are any actual "[expletive deleted]'s" out there that read this, please take no offense.
"Project [expletive deleted]" perhaps.... I can see the contestants now, competing to see who can walk the streets the farthest, with the highest (Clear see through platic, of course) Heels!!!!
And since this site can often be a bit catty, If there are any actual "[expletive deleted]'s" out there that read this, please take no offense.
thank you! Wendy is definately EVIL.
mmm I wonder if the contestants ever log on this message board. If they do, I'd definitely like to chat with Jay and Robbert. Jay is just too hilarious. the fabulous [expletive deleted] is madly talented too. And Robbert is such a HOTTIE...His eyes and smiles just kill me lolz... Does anyone else find Robbert hot? any comments on his lovely long hair?
I shudder to think that the designers are reading these posts. If so, Poor Wendy. The truth is oftimes a cruel and brutal mistress.
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And Robbert is such a HOTTIE...His eyes and smiles just kill me lolz... Does anyone else find Robbert hot? any comments on his lovely long hair?
I love Robio! I'm glad that we got to see his butt before he was eliminated. What I really like about him is that he has a great personality and attitude. I know that I'm in the minority here but I really liked his USPS outfit. I have a shirt just like the one he created and it's extremely comfortable, it moves with you and it's great when the weather is really hot. Maybe if Olga had worn a bra...
Robert was the last person that I expected to see come back as technical support. I know that they showed him drinking a lot of beer but it looked like at one point he was really helping Jay cut pieces for the skirt. Also, some people have speculated that since the fix was in for "La W" to win that they brought back Robio because they knew that he would be the only one to congratulate her. He was the only one to congratulate willingly (Austin was trying to pry her off of him) which to me shows that he is very gracious.
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