sassychic
February 12, 2005 - 09:51 PM
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oh lord so am I. Yesterday they were pretending to be thong underwear.
oh, lord. don't tell me- an original luvinkpenz thong design original?
luvinkpenz
February 12, 2005 - 09:53 PM
Well I was going to have Wendy make one for me but she's been soooooooo busy lately with Fashion Week and all. . .
Gherk
February 12, 2005 - 09:54 PM
no offense, but your abundant use of ellipses makes it very difficult to read your posts.
sassychic
February 12, 2005 - 09:57 PM
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Well I was going to have Wendy make one for me but she's been soooooooo busy lately with Fashion Week and all. . .
oh, thought you were a designer...you know, have a mail order catalog call luvinkpenz's secret - intimate thong apparel
luvinkpenz
February 12, 2005 - 10:00 PM
Sorry but no. Just a lowly government worker with a hellacious 2 year old. . .
Oh, Wait!! I just realized. . . Wendy CAN'T make my thong.
sassychic
February 12, 2005 - 10:04 PM
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Sorry but no. Just a lowly government worker with a hellacious 2 year old. . .
Oh, Wait!! I just realized. . . Wendy CAN'T make my thong.
why would you want spend and have her to make it (or should i say not make it) for you anyway? your knickers are doing for you. and if not your knickers, the hellacious 2 yr old will...
luvinkpenz
February 12, 2005 - 10:06 PM
Oh Wendy ain't got anything on him. He's rough.
sassychic
February 12, 2005 - 10:12 PM
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Oh Wendy ain't got anything on him. He's rough.
you are too funny. but you may be missing your calling on thong apparel design or a "how to" book. how to make knickers into thong without getting them twisted.
it's been fun. gotta run.
luvinkpenz
February 12, 2005 - 10:26 PM
i'm all alone,there's no one here beside meeeeee. My friend have all gone, No one here to. . . (I wish I remembered the lyrics)
nabakov5
February 12, 2005 - 11:52 PM
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no offense, but your abundant use of ellipses makes it very difficult to read your posts.
...sorry..i'm actually an english teacher by trade...i suppose i rebel somewhat in this mediam...lol...my abundant use of .... is surely a sign of my own fragmented psyche...and to think i never thought it would show....shattered dreams.....
lisakaz
February 12, 2005 - 11:53 PM
That'd be nice if you were right, but I highly doubt it, first for the reason I stated before. She was rewarded. You're right that next week would be the reprimand and the price of her tactics. I don't know if it'll have that effect, though. In a confrontation like that, she might just dig in, blame someone else (or the "why me" whine like when the photo was defaced) and make all sorts of excuses. In other words, she might just dig in and dismiss it all. If it has any effect, it might be very long term. What would have a greater effect would be a cold shoulder from the industry or some negative reprecussion over her attitude or designs after the fact. We'll see.
Looks like Vanessa really rips into her. That should be good. Brits are usually quite capable of bluntness when they want to do it.
lk
jmfitz619
February 13, 2005 - 12:56 AM
I don't think she'll be able to pull off the "Why Me?" thing like she's done all season. Keep in kind she won't have the luxury of selective editting during this episode like the past, and she'll the full brunt of eleven of her former competitors. Funny, it looks like Mario of all people (Who was only in for two episodes) lays the groundwork by asking the question about her relying on trickery and manipulation to advance and not talent.Good for him.
No, she won't be able to just dismiss anything. And truth be told, I think Wendy has done long term damage to her future as a big league designer, not only because of her behavior over the past several months (Yes, some may argue that some top designers can have attitudes, but not one who is a start up), but just from the tepid reviews she received in the press. She may have gotten a "reward" in going to Fashion Week, but watch, everyone, it's all going to backfire horribly. I really believe that.
Puddinhead
February 13, 2005 - 04:03 AM
I loved your post, Frenchy, and kudos for having the guts to stand up to the legions of chiffon-waving Austin lovers.
Wendy's dress was perfect for the Grammys - as evidenced by the hostess who chose it. (And no, Kara doesn't own the color orange. Wendy picked out the same color on her own, because she loved it on the hostess.)
THE QUEEN IS DEAD, everyone, get over it. The judges saw that Austin is a fairy princess who only designs swirly girly dresses for other fairy princesses. Maybe he'll get a job designing for broadway shows, or the ice capades.
Wendy may seem a little rough around the edges - but remember, this is a (non)reality show, and what you see is what the editors have carefully sculpted to show you.
At any rate, now that Tinkerbelle is gone, I am even more curious to see what these three talented designers come up with for the finale!
Monathepest
February 13, 2005 - 06:14 AM
You said everything I was thinking! Thanks!
CHICKSINGA
February 13, 2005 - 07:06 AM
Amen, Puddinhead! Thank God someone brought the post back to the subject instead of the rhetorical sycophantic ranting by the Austinites!
When it all comes down next week I believe that Wendy's in for a time, all right. The sad part about it is we (the people who appreciate Wendy) would like to believe that she won on her wits, comprehension of client need and talent, but how much of all of this was reality TV maneuvering to keep us coming back? If it was you'll see Wendy skewered like crazy and all those "wrong" vindicated. And you'll know it was a stunt - propagated by the producers. Whether or not Wendy was a willing participant or not probably won't ever come to light. I loved the show but if it's obvious that we were duped I won't come back for more. I love fashion too much.
notevayas
February 13, 2005 - 07:11 AM
JaNelle posted once and true..
I was rather surprised by the outcome of the final three. Not by Jay or Kara I thought they had talent from the first show. They were 'originals', I'm sure everyone noticed that. I always assumed that Wendy was put on the show to create controversy, this is television after all. I never thought someone so obviously unoriginal would actually be given such a wonderful opportunity. Even the one challenge she won was seemingly by default. It was the least imaginative so it worked for an interviewer who shouldn't upstage the stars. I am probably the perfect client for someone like Wendy, middleaged, middle American, mother and wife but even I found her designs boring and uninspired. I suppose if you want someone to design for WalMart she'd be your girl. I felt badly for Austin who not only had beautiful designs but seemed like such a sweet young man. Though, I should hope, someone of such real talent will find a place in fashion. I know we shall all see great things from Jay and Kara they are both so very talented but I'm sorry that the last spot couldn't have gone to one of the other much more worthy designers. I like to think that this was not all just about ratings, you know, tune in to see the designer everyone hates finally get her due- but legitimately run.
notevayas replies...
I was initially glad to see that an attempt at diversity was made in the inclusion of an older woman. I do not think that the producers would be so crass as to 'cast' the role of villian to an older, less attractive woman. In fact, I think she was 'saved' despite her blunder in the first challenge to preserve the attempt at diversity.
In the early weeks of the show, I don't think it was all editing that showed both Austin and Kara Saun making an effort to bridge the generation gap and befriend Wendy. Kara Saun helped Wendy present herself better as a designer with makeup and wardrobe advice. Austin seems to have an 'old soul' and was able to bond with Wendy as a fellow outsider perhaps. But it is clear from Wendy's own words that she viewed such overtures as an opportunity to play mind games to give herself advantage in the competition.
When Wendy started 'talking to the camera' about her pathetic attempts at Machiavellianism, I could see that she was intimidated by the talent around her. I thought perhaps that she was (understandably) embarrassed by her poor designs and her pride led the attempt to justify this by pointing to a bigger strategy.
Now that she has painted herself as a 'villian', by backstabbing Austin in the rocker-girl team challenge, by backstabbing Kevin in the 2050 team challenge, by pretending she would chose Morgan as her model, only to eliminate her after Morgan vocalized appreciation, by using the phrase 'mental warfare' thus showing her own hand in the accusation to the others of photo defacement, by using profanity against Kara Saun, by taking a bolt of fabric off Kara Saun's worktable, by voicing her enjoyment of the other designer's anxiety during the last challenge. And the ultimate Wendy Pepper cruelty was when she refused to let Austin gracefully disentangle himself from her after his congratulatory hug to her as he was eliminated from Fashion Week. She clung to him like a ghoul reveling in his pain. That is when, although I am no shrink, I finally came to the conclusion that there must be pathology in the Wendy personality.
I take no joy in that. I disagree with talk shows and reality shows, that seems to encourage people with borderline IQ's and personality disorders to flaunt their illness for our amusement. I hope I am wrong about Wendy because she has a young innocent child. I hope her family and friends will keep a close eye on her as to how she copes with all of our criticism.
I do not think that the other designers will be half as hard on her as some of us have been. But I hope she answers Mario's question. Of course, do not expect any honesty regarding the Producer's hand in all this mess. Any honest questions to them will surely end up on the cutting room floor.
notevayas
jmfitz619
February 13, 2005 - 07:13 AM
Interesting post, I have to say, but with all due respect, I have to tell you that it is way off base and needlessly cruel.
1) Not all Austin fans are "Chiffon Wavers" . The fact is, the majority of posters on this borad are just intelligent enough to appreciate the talent of a young man whose abilities are far beyond his years.....
2)Granted, Kara does not own the color orange. However, I don't believe Wendy chose it out of love for the way it looked on Nancy O'Dell. She, in all likelihood, chose it, because it was a color that nancy wore, and it would save Wendy the time of trying to come with an original color scheme. And don't forget, Wendy's dress was eerily similar to the top Nancy wore. This was not a breakout design. In fact, following the reasoning of Alexandra being eliminated for copying, so should have Wendy.
3)"The Queen" is far from dead, Puddinhead, and the fact is that the judges did not eliminate Austin for his "Fairy Princess" demeanor. Quite the contrary, it was clear that they tried to keep him and eliminate Wendy when Nancy opted for her dress. They also stated that he was "An amazing talent", a compliment not passed on other eliminated contestants. No. He was eliminated because they were bound to keep Wendy and Austin's dress was not necesarilly the most Grammy compatible. And you can bet, he may get a job on Broadway, probably making nore money than any of us posting on this site. And good for him when he does. His talent is wothry of every dollar he makes.
4) Yes, you are right, this is a (non)reality show, and editting is a factor, but let's face it, Puddinhead, even careful editting cannot hide some of the nasty commentary made by Wendy. Her personality showed right through; the production staff can only sculpt so much.
5) Lastly, "Tinkerbelle" is not gone. He was actually called back to help in a shell game for Fashion Week with the other designers, and while as a whole his collection was not at his peak (Does anyone really believe he just wasn't 100% into it, knowing that he was a decoy?), it was better received than Wendy. Check the suggested wesites and feedback from the other posters. One of the "Talented Designers" came up very short.
And as a persoanl commentary, the majority of the people on this post have legitimately had problems with Wendy based on mediocre skill. Your, post, Puddinhead, with all due respect, was more a malicious attack on a persons character that has absolutely nothing to with the skill of a designer.
I'm sorry for you that you cannot appreciate the niche of the fashion market in which Austin can so successfully participate.
luvinkpenz
February 13, 2005 - 07:23 AM
notevayas, jmfitz619, I love you guys! <Tears>
AuntieRuth
February 13, 2005 - 07:59 AM
Look, I LOVE Austin. Very talented. Makes bee-you-tee-ful clothes. But HE DIDN'T LISTEN!!! He kept with the same Disney costumes no matter what the client needed. The postal thing was a good example - "Doris Day playing a letter carrier".
He's getting a lot of excellent exposure and will be a winner in the long run. We'll see him in the future - more than Wendy for sure.
4seasons
February 13, 2005 - 09:15 AM
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You said everything I was thinking! Thanks!
The QUEEN is VERY much alive - thank you.
There is no skirting around the issue of the top 3 designers. PUN INTENDED!!! Austin should have been in the top 3 and it should not have been left up to a D-list celebrity like Nancy O'Dell to have made the final choice. The format of Project Runway started to fall apart at the very end. Obviously the producers didn't have their act together. Didn't they realize that the viewers would find out who the final 3 would be even with a decoy? CNN and local TV stations in the NYC area spoiled the surprise.
Say what you will about Austin but at least he stayed true to himself and didn't sell out like Wendy who I really believe acted on the advice of the producers to play the villian. She would do ANYTHING to get to Fashion Week and that's a sad statement regarding where we are in this day and age. Let's talk about integrity and that's something that Austin HAS learned about at his young age and something that Wendy hasn't and she's almost twice his age.
NewObserver
February 13, 2005 - 09:49 AM
Just read Sunday's Washington Post which has an article about Wendy. Seems that Wendy donated one of her BR dresses to a tsunami relief auction in Middleburg. The dress sold for $1,750 ($150 at BR).
Have any of the other designers donated to tsunami relief?
luvinkpenz
February 13, 2005 - 09:51 AM
www.newyorkmetro.com/fashion/fashionshows/05/fall/
runway/projectrunway
This is a really good link to see the runway from fashion week. Although Kara Saun's designs is not in the featured?
Things that make you go hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
d2000
February 13, 2005 - 09:56 AM
cherryberry, do you still view this board?
ThomsTeddyBear
February 13, 2005 - 10:12 AM
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lk
Agreed 100%
lilysmom
February 13, 2005 - 10:21 AM
"My point about this not being like "Survivor" is that it's not the direct kind of competition where you can form groups and alliances that directly affect who leaves and who doesn't. You leave because your work is deemed unfit. Do you know what I mean?? The things that happen on the runway are the things that matter, not the petty stuff that goes on backstage."
I agree that Wendy was talking a bit about a weird strategy (though who knows if she was the only person doing that -- and she may have made 2 or 3 such comments throughout the entire period). But I also think that you don't necessarily leave just because your work is unfit -- that matters, but what also matters is what the producers want, which is ratings. They admit that they're allowed to change the decision of the judges.
And, as an aside, even on the merits, the work is often judged as fit based on quirky challenges which have little to do, in the end, with how someone would be able to design a collection in Fashion Week.
Also, as an aside, I'm not sorry that Austin got eliminated. If it was really about seeing potentially the best collections, I wish we'd see Kara, Jay, and Nora, who could have easily wowed the crowd.
But I could never figure out the end goal, anyway. Is an internship, or guidance, or whatever, from Banana Republic really all that similar to fashion week 5th avenue high-end stuff? Maybe, but I shop at BR, and I've never really thought of myself as a high-end shopper. I know the stuff at fashion week can suggest basic elements and trends for mall-store outfits, but...I could see WP really doing well as a designer of mass-produced mall-type stuff, better than, say, Jay or certainly Austin, but Jay and Kara having *much* better fashion-week collections, and selling in individual Fifth-Avenue style boutiques.
But it was Nora that I feel disappointed that I won't see, and that she didn't even get that much attention. Gosh, how can anyone design a really innovative wedding dress, with that short amount of time? It was really a shame (to me) that Nora got the boot.
ericats
February 13, 2005 - 10:23 AM
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Just read Sunday's Washington Post which has an article about Wendy. Seems that Wendy donated one of her BR dresses to a tsunami relief auction in Middleburg. The dress sold for $1,750 ($150 at BR).
Have any of the other designers donated to tsunami relief?
I can't really tell the tone of your post but I hope that you are not insuating that Wendy is some how superior to the other designers because of her recent contribution.
If you are, please realize that there are many ways to contribute to this world. Some people organize fundraisers, some donate money, some donate their time, etc. Since we don't know too much about the lives of all the other designers we don't know the extent of their charitable contributions. Suppose Daniel has spent many hours last year and this year serving meals to the homeless in downtown LA but hasn't donated any money to tsunami relief; does that make him (and his actions) less worthy than Wendy?
ThomsTeddyBear
February 13, 2005 - 10:30 AM
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Could someone please explain why Austin was out on episode 9?! First of all, Wendy's design was nothing any celeb would wear for the grammy's!! Austin's design was classy,sophisticated, and designed amazingly. I missed the episode so if someone could just let me in on why Austin isn't on the show now that would be great.
Jamee
Because the person they were designing for (some Odell person) forgot to bring her glasses that day and somehow thought that the top was original (even though it almost identically matched the tops SHE WAS WEARING) and the feathers were cute.
NewObserver
February 13, 2005 - 10:37 AM
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Just read Sunday's Washington Post which has an article about Wendy. Seems that Wendy donated one of her BR dresses to a tsunami relief auction in Middleburg. The dress sold for $1,750 ($150 at BR).
Have any of the other designers donated to tsunami relief?
I can't really tell the tone of your post but I hope that you are not insuating that Wendy is some how superior to the other designers because of her recent contribution.
If you are, please realize that there are many ways to contribute to this world. Some people organize fundraisers, some donate money, some donate their time, etc. Since we don't know too much about the lives of all the other designers we don't know the extent of their charitable contributions. Suppose Daniel has spent many hours last year and this year serving meals to the homeless in downtown LA but hasn't donated any money to tsunami relief; does that make him (and his actions) less worthy than Wendy?
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I'm not "insuating" [sic] anything. I am simply stating that Wendy is not as bad as many people prefer to think she is. She is obviously active in her community and has concerns about the world outside her community.
For all those people who take great pleasure in trashing Wendy, perhaps they should take a moment to realize that what they see on TV is not "reality;" it's what the producers want us to see and that maybe, just maybe, Wendy isn't the monster many think she is.
luvinkpenz
February 13, 2005 - 10:43 AM
ThomsTeddyBear, just to let you know its been rough in here since yesterday afternoon. Bingo must have let out early lot of new wendyabees.
ThomsTeddyBear
February 13, 2005 - 10:51 AM
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OTO, I don't understand the love for Kevin either. That dude was a shady tool, he wasn't any better in character than La Pepper. Look at how he treated darling Nora and poor little Starr. Jackass.
...kevin wasn't shady at all....and nora was acting like a three-year-old in that episode....kevin might be called passive agressive, but not shady....he is soft-spoken, intelligent, sexy and fabulously mysterious....and he designs beautiful clothes....kevin?...can you hear me....i'm still waiting...(and waiting and waiting....)....hmmmm perhaps i should grab the reigns on this little obsession....naaaaahhhh
Well you know how it is, some people just can't take the pressure.
Kevin: "They're saying Starr is going to get eliminated because of her colors."
Starr: "Kevin if you have something to say, say it to my face."
Kevin: "I could tell you, but I don't think you want to know."
OMG, HOW COULD HE BE SO CRUEL!! How in the world could he say, "I don't think you want to know"!
*rolls eyes to heaven*...Lord, why! Why does Kevin have to be so mean!
Kevin: "What happened?"
Morgan: "It ripped!"
Kevin: "You shouldn't have worn it so long."
Morgan: "You know what, that's it - I'm out!"
LORD, HE DID IT AGAIN!! Omg, I swear he practically slapped her off the couch! How could he say, "You shouldn't have worn it so long"? That's just inhumane!! I just can't take this passive-aggressive behavior anymore! I swear, next time he'll be saying something like, "Want some milk and cookies," and that will be it - I'll have to take out a restraining order!
If people call that passive-aggressive then I really worry for them.
ThomsTeddyBear
February 13, 2005 - 11:11 AM
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I loved your post, Frenchy, and kudos for having the guts to stand up to the legions of chiffon-waving Austin lovers.
Wendy's dress was perfect for the Grammys - as evidenced by the hostess who chose it. (And no, Kara doesn't own the color orange. Wendy picked out the same color on her own, because she loved it on the hostess.)
THE QUEEN IS DEAD, everyone, get over it. The judges saw that Austin is a fairy princess who only designs swirly girly dresses for other fairy princesses. Maybe he'll get a job designing for broadway shows, or the ice capades.
Wendy may seem a little rough around the edges - but remember, this is a (non)reality show, and what you see is what the editors have carefully sculpted to show you.
At any rate, now that Tinkerbelle is gone, I am even more curious to see what these three talented designers come up with for the finale!
A cockroach supporter. I'd rather wave chiffon than germs. But hey, if you'd like to walk down the street in a Blowhard Pepper design (oh wait, don't blow hard) and have it fall apart at the seams when the wind blows, then as a roach supporter you're welcome to that. Just don't gripe when that talentless hack gets you arrested for indecent exposure.
Bet you loved the melted, fall-apart candy bikini - there was plenty on the floor for roaches to scoop up.
luvinkpenz
February 13, 2005 - 11:11 AM
Does anybody know how long prior to fashion week Austn was told he would have showing. I don't see have they could have given him as much time as the others. It would not have been fair to the other Three (ok well 2 1/2)
lisakaz
February 13, 2005 - 11:27 AM
I think she'll dig in there, though, on some level. Maybe that's why Mario was eliminated (besides his design): he'd have called Cruella out and neutralized her machinations.
I do believe she burned some bridges. We don't know what'll happen with any of the designers becoming entrenched in the biz or popular, but if Jay (for example) hits it big, that woman is in trouble. You're right about being a diva. Only a relative beginner like JLo could get away with being a diva because she's already a star. Wendy is not a star. As an up-and-comer, she has to be humble to get ahead. I did not see much humility out of her. You can see that Kara learned that lesson and because she hadn't yet "made it" she did not lose that. Yet, versus Wendy, she'd done a lot more; Wendy never did a major star's red carpet dress before now. And we generally agree Wendy pandered to get that job, among other things.
I sure hope the karmic payback has already begun.
lk
JustTzujIt
February 13, 2005 - 11:32 AM
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notevayas, jmfitz619, I love you guys! <Tears>
*hands luv a tissue and begins to tear up herself* yeah, you guys are great!
ThomsTeddyBear
February 13, 2005 - 11:34 AM
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ThomsTeddyBear, just to let you know its been rough in here since yesterday afternoon. Bingo must have let out early lot of new wendyabees.
lol - so I've seen! Know what is disturbing, I've seen nothing wrong with the actions (on a personality level) with the other designers. They may have their flaws (who doesn't) but none of them were willing to sell their soul to the devil to form some kind of game to play when it should have been about best design. The others didn't do that. Starr wasn't confident in her designs and she didn't do that. Vanessa wasn't confident in her designs and didn't do that. The roach did.
The people who have expressed their anger on here about Austin and some of the others being being eliminated unjustly have done so based mostly on moral grounds as well as design skill. This leaves the "wendyabees" (cute) and the show producers on the side of non-skilled, kill-your-best-friend-to-win attitudes. In other words they're saying, "It's a game so selling your soul is allowed".
Disturbing isn't it. Makes me feel dayumed good to be a chiffon waving, queen supporter...at least I and the others still have our souls.
luvinkpenz
February 13, 2005 - 11:34 AM
Imagine this; "This is Nancy O'Dell here at the 2006 Oscars
I am here with Nicole Kidman. Nicole who are you wearing tonight."
Now Lets see what sounds the best.
"Hi Nancy I am wearing. . ."
a. Austin Scarlet
b. Kara Saun
C. Jay McCarroll
or D. Weendy Peeeeeeeeeeepper.
Morgasmo
February 13, 2005 - 11:34 AM
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Morgasmo
February 13, 2005 - 11:37 AM
Ok, def. that time of the month. LOL
"Moral grounds"? It's a damn TV show! Dra-ma!
lisakaz
February 13, 2005 - 11:38 AM
Nice and well thought-out post. If that person wants to wear Cruella, we won't mind laughing. How about that "farty" postal costume?
I'm not sure if he was 100% into the show. He shoulda been. But it might have been more last-minute than the others and he apparently attributed his less than enthusiastic demeanor to having an all-nighter to finish. If so, then perhaps he didn't get the resources and time like the others. And someone did say a few items seemed to have already been in his portfolio, which enhances this notion. It could have been a lie, too, to disguise his disappointment or mixed emotions about being a decoy. This may or may not mean the time/materials factor was involved. Only he can say, really. I was convinced based on his show's reviews and the other clues (CNN, the Daily News, the portfolio comment about one dress in particular) that he was the decoy so I refused to watch his elimination.
lk
Suezin2qt
February 13, 2005 - 11:41 AM
Considering the themes, challenges and time constraints, the designers did the best they could.
Despite the challenges the one thing that stood out was Austin's talent. He is a highly creative and classic designer and has instinctive design skills (so does Kara Saun). Classic's have a way of coming back around with a trendier look. The first dress he whipped up was amazing and the "Doris Day" uniform was a classy and classic touch to a uniform.
Way to go Austin.
luvinkpenz
February 13, 2005 - 11:41 AM
You would have been proud of him. He was awesome. He knew he should not have been out, but he was sooooooooooooo graceful. Can you imagine how Wendy would have acted?
ThomsTeddyBear
February 13, 2005 - 11:43 AM
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Ok, def. that time of the month. LOL
"Moral grounds"? It's a damn TV show! Dra-ma!
Want a Kotex? You're up, you're down, laughing, crying...it's gonna be alright.
*people, step away from the Morgasm*
lisakaz
February 13, 2005 - 11:48 AM
Yeah, I thought he was pretty tame though he had the right to be pretty upset over the Morgan thing. His comments to Starr (even the "behind the back" one) weren't like anything Cruella said or did. Even that line about "Why is Rob still here?" wasn't exactly mean -- you could look at it as a testimony to Jay's views of people like Kevin or Nora.
lk
lisakaz
February 13, 2005 - 11:53 AM
I can't see Nicole wearing Jay, unless Jay shows some of that flexibilit). I've never seen her in a big plunging neck (that I can remember). So it better be A).
lk
Dorado
February 13, 2005 - 11:54 AM
Villians of the Show-
Cruella De Wendy
Kevin.
Most Underrated-
Starr
Daniel
I thought Starr was unique and very different, like Jay.
Could have stayed longer. Daniel...he was quick and worked well with his hands.
Most Overrated-
Austin
Sorry to you Austin fans but, I was only pleased by a couple of his designs, including the Corn one! To me, his was just a bit too gimmicky and way over the top- He's a good designer, but he never eally understood the goals of each challenge.
lisakaz
February 13, 2005 - 11:57 AM
Yeah, I've heard that. But I'd be so SAD about it. He's such a sweetheart. I don't get why some people have to make these digs about him. I want me an Austin Scarlett original! Please, Austin, tell me you can do a petite 8! I ain't 5'9" like Melissa or 5'11" like Martinique.
lk
luvinkpenz
February 13, 2005 - 11:57 AM
I could see her in the BR dress and in the swimsuit and the wedding gown. I see where you are coming from though. I just pointing out that even her name sounds off for a fashion designer.
lisakaz
February 13, 2005 - 11:59 AM
Leave it to a Morgan fan to not make any sense and defend the creature who unceremoniously dumped the original from the show. That had to be the most unnecessarily cold and cruel moments of La Cruella's performance.
lk
luvinkpenz
February 13, 2005 - 12:00 PM
His interview on the website is so heartbreaking. The line about no one going to his birthday party. Man I can't imagine how upset I would be if no one came to my baby's birthday party.
ericats
February 13, 2005 - 12:01 PM
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"insuating" [sic]
oops!
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I am simply stating that Wendy is not as bad as many people prefer to think she is. She is obviously active in her community and has concerns about the world outside her community.
Thanks for the clarification.
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For all those people who take great pleasure in trashing Wendy, perhaps they should take a moment to realize that what they see on TV is not "reality;" it's what the producers want us to see and that maybe, just maybe, Wendy isn't the monster many think she is.
After I realized that the finalists were chosen last August, way before any of us had even heard of Austin, it became pretty obvious that the producers manipulated the images extremely well. They could have easily edited the shows so that we loved W and hated Jay. Also, many people have stated that what W said came out of her own mouth and was not scripted, but we don't hear in what context she was saying those things. I think that she was made to look far worse than she is.
That being said, I think what upsets most people is that she really isn't a good designer, she's more of a dressmaker. With the exception of her BR dress, people who really know about design and fashion really don't like her work. I don't think that makes her a bad person but another contestant should have been in her spot at FW.
But the producers followed the same tired, sorry ass "reality" show formula and the fix was in.