On what basis was Starr underrated? Did you wanna wear the tumors or the "jester" dress? There were fundamental flaws in her conceptualizing what it meant to design clothes. Hard to say about Daniel, though.
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Haggula seems more appropriate when describing Wendy. I like the Cruella for personality.
I'm a 50 year old female and a chiffon waving fan of Austin. He sculpted a beautiful fabric into a flowing elegant gown. Wendy's creation? A copied drab tunic with a mis-matched strange skirt. O'Dell - rip the feathers off before you wear it!!!!
I'm a 50 year old female and a chiffon waving fan of Austin. He sculpted a beautiful fabric into a flowing elegant gown. Wendy's creation? A copied drab tunic with a mis-matched strange skirt. O'Dell - rip the feathers off before you wear it!!!!
But not anything really Jay did for FW. That's what I meant. Jay could do it, but would she gravitate to him to make that happen?
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I really think that the producers would have included all the backstabbing, not just the WP stuff.
I agree. Just WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNDY PEPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPER just sounds like nails on a chaulk board. Of course it is most likely personnal feeling involved.
Whooo Hooo. I am up to an occasional viewer. GO ME !!!!!
Sure, hold onto that view. Maybe you're right. But consider what some of the designers will say about her on the next show. If Vanessa, Jay, Kara, Kevin and Mario now all hate her, what does that tell you? Do I need to add more names? Were they all affected by the editing, too?
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Leave it to a Morgan fan to not make any sense and defend the creature who unceremoniously dumped the original from the show. That had to be the most unnecessarily cold and cruel moments of La Cruella's performance.
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Even though I could not STAND Morgan, I thought the speech Wendy fed her before eliminating her was beyond cruel! After that I felt sorry for Morgan - was glad she was gone, but not in that way.
I have a strong idea that the other designers do not like Wendy either. If you check out the pictures that were taken during Fashion Week, all the fellow designers took pictures with Jay, Kara and Austin at the NY showing. Wendy was the only designer of the four that didn't take pictures with her cronies of the show. That tells me that there were some serious issues with Wendy and her fellow designers.
<<Okay, I'm not sure how this actually worked, but fashion week is over, so I was dying to see if I could find any of the PR winners' fashions online. I found this:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor..._project_runway
So our little Austin doesn't get the $100K, but it sounds like his designs were shown at Fashion Week. You go, Austin. It also says that Jay's were the fan fave! Love him and Kara Saun>>
I'm sooo glad to hear Austin got to show his work at Fashion Week. After I watched (shocked) that Wendy got into the top 3...oh my, I was ready to forgo watching Project Runway.
Austin was my fave! but Kara Saun is a great talent and Jay is so innovative (loved to see Robert again, he's so cool, great, warm personality) anyway, now I'm ready to watch the show again. Ba-bye Wendy! Go Austin, Kara, and Jay! And the best to everyone. Thanks for the great fashion tips Project Runway! Love you all!
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor..._project_runway
So our little Austin doesn't get the $100K, but it sounds like his designs were shown at Fashion Week. You go, Austin. It also says that Jay's were the fan fave! Love him and Kara Saun>>
I'm sooo glad to hear Austin got to show his work at Fashion Week. After I watched (shocked) that Wendy got into the top 3...oh my, I was ready to forgo watching Project Runway.
Austin was my fave! but Kara Saun is a great talent and Jay is so innovative (loved to see Robert again, he's so cool, great, warm personality) anyway, now I'm ready to watch the show again. Ba-bye Wendy! Go Austin, Kara, and Jay! And the best to everyone. Thanks for the great fashion tips Project Runway! Love you all!
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That was very obvious in the USPS challenge!
That was very obvious in the USPS challenge!
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I don't think she'll be able to pull off the "Why Me?" thing like she's done all season. Keep in kind she won't have the luxury of selective editting during this episode like the past, and she'll the full brunt of eleven of her former competitors. Funny, it looks like Mario of all people (Who was only in for two episodes) lays the groundwork by asking the question about her relying on trickery and manipulation to advance and not talent.Good for him.
No, she won't be able to just dismiss anything. And truth be told, I think Wendy has done long term damage to her future as a big league designer, not only because of her behavior over the past several months (Yes, some may argue that some top designers can have attitudes, but not one who is a start up), but just from the tepid reviews she received in the press. She may have gotten a "reward" in going to Fashion Week, but watch, everyone, it's all going to backfire horribly. I really believe that.
you got exactly what i meant. thanks! but you put it in a much better context.
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OTO, I don't understand the love for Kevin either. That dude was a shady tool, he wasn't any better in character than La Pepper. Look at how he treated darling Nora and poor little Starr. Jackass.
...kevin wasn't shady at all....and nora was acting like a three-year-old in that episode....kevin might be called passive agressive, but not shady....he is soft-spoken, intelligent, sexy and fabulously mysterious....and he designs beautiful clothes....kevin?...can you hear me....i'm still waiting...(and waiting and waiting....)....hmmmm perhaps i should grab the reigns on this little obsession....naaaaahhhh
Well you know how it is, some people just can't take the pressure.
Kevin: "They're saying Starr is going to get eliminated because of her colors."
Starr: "Kevin if you have something to say, say it to my face."
Kevin: "I could tell you, but I don't think you want to know."
OMG, HOW COULD HE BE SO CRUEL!! How in the world could he say, "I don't think you want to know"!
*rolls eyes to heaven*...Lord, why! Why does Kevin have to be so mean!
Kevin: "What happened?"
Morgan: "It ripped!"
Kevin: "You shouldn't have worn it so long."
Morgan: "You know what, that's it - I'm out!"
LORD, HE DID IT AGAIN!! Omg, I swear he practically slapped her off the couch! How could he say, "You shouldn't have worn it so long"? That's just inhumane!! I just can't take this passive-aggressive behavior anymore! I swear, next time he'll be saying something like, "Want some milk and cookies," and that will be it - I'll have to take out a restraining order!
If people call that passive-aggressive then I really worry for them.
...i had to read this a few times to figure it out, but i must say my dearest thom....bravo, i laughed and laughed and laughed...and then i giggled for a little while, and after that i chuckled (kinda in the bottom of my throat)...and now i'm resigned to respond....you are quite right, kevin does not display diagnosable signs of passive agressive behavior here, infact he seems to be acting in a very direct way (which of course, for me, is a lovely turn-on)...maybe the "passive-agressive" label is just an assumption we've made to account for his soft tone...
...of course you, my darling and gifted thom, have displayed a wonderful example of passive aggression with your sarcasm, and i absolutely love it!....i think in another time and place, we would have been best-lobsters (some lobsters it seems have favorite buddies that they waltz around the ocean with, sometimes for a lifetime)
and to my dear kevin....no diamonds on my wedding gown darling, i would prefer something simple, elegant and easy to get out of (oh, and that i can dance in)
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...i STILL don't get it!! kevin is a villian? are you guys watching the anime' project runway? ...cause i'm watching the one about 12 designers competing in a runway competition....hang on, let me check and see what message board i'm on...
hello lolita....i'm nabakov....i've been wondering where you were
Umm...where did I defended Wendy again? Yea, thought so.
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I really think that the producers would have included all the backstabbing, not just the WP stuff.
Oh mon dieu! I hope that I'm not being perceived as a Wendy Defendy. I dislike her designs (but will admit to liking the wedding dress), she has no right to be at fashion week, she's a dressmaker not a designer, etc.
Yes, you make a good point but I think that the producers concentrated on her to create drama. Think about it: she's this mediocre dressmaker who gets on this show, she's almost eliminated in 50% of the challenges, and then she "knocks out" a favorite to go to fashion week? The fix was in!!!!
In film/tv production images are so manipulated! In fiction everything is manipulated to support the story and "reality" shows are almost like scripted stories. They probably shot hundreds and hundreds of hours of footage and they cut it down to 405 minutes (9 episodes at 45 minutes each) which is 6.75 hours. Who knows what we didn't see?
But then again I could be wrong and Wendy is just a [expletive deleted] or she was a plant.
Please...you're the one who's being a hysterical queen with your "moral grounds". I'll see your Kotex and raise it to a Midol/Prozac cocktail. :-)
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Well you know how it is, some people just can't take the pressure.
Kevin: "They're saying Starr is going to get eliminated because of her colors."
Starr: "Kevin if you have something to say, say it to my face."
Kevin: "I could tell you, but I don't think you want to know."
OMG, HOW COULD HE BE SO CRUEL!! How in the world could he say, "I don't think you want to know"!
*rolls eyes to heaven*...Lord, why! Why does Kevin have to be so mean!
Kevin: "What happened?"
Morgan: "It ripped!"
Kevin: "You shouldn't have worn it so long."
Morgan: "You know what, that's it - I'm out!"
LORD, HE DID IT AGAIN!! Omg, I swear he practically slapped her off the couch! How could he say, "You shouldn't have worn it so long"? That's just inhumane!! I just can't take this passive-aggressive behavior anymore! I swear, next time he'll be saying something like, "Want some milk and cookies," and that will be it - I'll have to take out a restraining order!
If people call that passive-aggressive then I really worry for them.
...i had to read this a few times to figure it out, but i must say my dearest thom....bravo, i laughed and laughed and laughed...and then i giggled for a little while, and after that i chuckled (kinda in the bottom of my throat)...and now i'm resigned to respond....you are quite right, kevin does not display diagnosable signs of passive agressive behavior here, infact he seems to be acting in a very direct way (which of course, for me, is a lovely turn-on)...maybe the "passive-agressive" label is just an assumption we've made to account for his soft tone...
...of course you, my darling and gifted thom, have displayed a wonderful example of passive aggression with your sarcasm, and i absolutely love it!....i think in another time and place, we would have been best-lobsters (some lobsters it seems have favorite buddies that they waltz around the ocean with, sometimes for a lifetime)
and to my dear kevin....no diamonds on my wedding gown darling, i would prefer something simple, elegant and easy to get out of (oh, and that i can dance in)
Now ME being passive-aggressive I can totally understand! I'm not gifted or special, I'm just me
I'm not like this off-board, I can't stand to see a hurt expression on someone's face unless they REALLY deserve it.
I love Kevin's soft-spoken voice. Would those who think it's creepy rather hang around with someone with a raucous(sp?) voice? Would they really want 160 decibels ringing in their ears every day and night? Give me Kevin's whispers in my ear any day over that! Oh wait, sorry, I mean Kevin's whispers in your ear...don't beat me down, I'm not trying to steal your man, lol! Invite me to the wedding!
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Does anybody know how long prior to fashion week Austn was told he would have showing. I don't see have they could have given him as much time as the others. It would not have been fair to the other Three (ok well 2 1/2)
I suspect we will eventually learn more about Austin's role as a decoy . . . Not only am I interested in how much time he was given to prepare . . . I also want to know what he was allowed to show . . . did they have to be garments that he had already done . . . or did he get the opportunity to create new garments . . . a combination of the two . . . I've read here that the red dress is a previous creation.
I'm also wondering what he thought or how he felt about being the decoy . . . Was it better than not showing at Fashion Week at all? Was it a lot of work for little payback? Was it awkward being front and center knowing that your work was not going to be presented as part of the final episode? Inquiring minds want to know.
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Please...you're the one who's being a hysterical queen with your "moral grounds". I'll see your Kotex and raise it to a Midol/Prozac cocktail. :-)
A queen, oh if only...then my gay husband would REALLY love me! So moral justice really bothers you that much that you need a Midol/Prozac cocktail? Never had them and don't drink so no thank you. It's unwise to mix medication and drinking but if you feel it'll help you, more power to ya!
I foresee a DVD with an assload of extra footage. Hope they don't wait to long to bring it out.
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Please...you're the one who's being a hysterical queen with your "moral grounds". I'll see your Kotex and raise it to a Midol/Prozac cocktail. :-)
A queen, oh if only...then my gay husband would REALLY love me! So moral justice really bothers you that much that you need a Midol/Prozac cocktail? Never had them and don't drink so no thank you. It's unwise to mix medication and drinking but if you feel it'll help you, more power to ya!
...i forget, what is this catfight about again?...nevermind, i just need a rum chaser with my lithium.....
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I foresee a DVD with an assload of extra footage. Hope they don't wait to long to bring it out.
We've been begging Bravo for a QE DVD for 2 years and have nothing yet. If that's any indication of their intent, we're doomed
"i just need a rum chaser with my lithium....."
yay...my new best friend!
"what is this catfight about again?"
I was merely commenting on the fact that the term "moral values" and "moral justice" are being used to discuss a reality show...as opposed to say, the war in Iraq? :-) And of course that means I'm a Wendy defender...I think I've said in all my previous posts that my favorites are Jay and Nora? But anyway.
yay...my new best friend!
"what is this catfight about again?"
I was merely commenting on the fact that the term "moral values" and "moral justice" are being used to discuss a reality show...as opposed to say, the war in Iraq? :-) And of course that means I'm a Wendy defender...I think I've said in all my previous posts that my favorites are Jay and Nora? But anyway.
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Please...you're the one who's being a hysterical queen with your "moral grounds". I'll see your Kotex and raise it to a Midol/Prozac cocktail. :-)
A queen, oh if only...then my gay husband would REALLY love me! So moral justice really bothers you that much that you need a Midol/Prozac cocktail? Never had them and don't drink so no thank you. It's unwise to mix medication and drinking but if you feel it'll help you, more power to ya!
...i forget, what is this catfight about again?...nevermind, i just need a rum chaser with my lithium.....
lol, if this lithium and prozac stuff and different kind of drinks help like that, then pass the cases and I'll be a cocktail virgin no more!
Is Nancy "I like orange" O'Dell on one of the stations that broadcasts "live from the red carpet" tonight? If so, what station is she on? I'd love to see IF she wears Wendy's dress and whether or not it's been altered, i.e., no feathers, etc.
I would imagine that Austin would want to have as good a showing as possible. Fashion Week is almost as big a prize as the 100K and the BR mentorship.
I think your first argument would be the correct one, he didn't have much time to prepare and prob. had to throw in some previous creations.
I think your first argument would be the correct one, he didn't have much time to prepare and prob. had to throw in some previous creations.
I am hoping it doesn't hurt him in the long run. Whooooooo I had to nap, this can take alot out of somebody.
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Sure, hold onto that view. Maybe you're right. But consider what some of the designers will say about her on the next show. If Vanessa, Jay, Kara, Kevin and Mario now all hate her, what does that tell you? Do I need to add more names? Were they all affected by the editing, too?
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I hate her too! I can't wait until they give her ass chewings! Devil's advocate here: we're supposed to hate her!
Her lousy designs didn't get her to the final three; her backstabbing* didn't get her to the final three; she made the final three because she was carried by the producers week after week. My position is, and I'm not saying that I'm right, that if she wasn't a plant then I think that for dramatic purposes they made her look REALLY BAD. I'm not saying she's gracious or honorable or a Saint but she's probably not as bad in real, unmanipulated life as she was on the show.
Since I think that this whole thing was a fix, W could have smeared dog poop on her models week after week and she still would have made it to fashion week.
*I thought her attack of Kevin was horrible and unnecessary (despite what she said on her website) but Nora and Alexandra did the same thing to him. From the images we saw, Nora was the one screwing things up so why did Alexandra say that Kevin was the problem?
That being said, I think what upsets most people is that she really isn't a good designer, she's more of a dressmaker. With the exception of her BR dress, people who really know about design and fashion really don't like her work. I don't think that makes her a bad person but another contestant should have been in her spot at FW.
But the producers followed the same tired, sorry ass "reality" show formula and the fix was in.
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YES, YES, YES! Ericats! Someone who see's the light and expresses it well.
Much ado about Wendy has nothing to do with her malicious attempts to further her "agenda" to Fashion Week (since she obviously did not have the skill) and whatever exploitation the producers of PR did to portray that agenda, but in the fact she is/was so less deserving of the opportunity to be at Fashion Week than some of the other designers. IMHO, if the producers kept her going each week, challenge to challenge, to keep the *drama* in the show...well, they did themselves, the viewers, and Wendy herself a big major disservice.
Wendy, is supposedly 40 years old (although to me she looks much older, but people with those *itchy personalities seem to age more--look at Kara only a couple of years younger than Wendy and she looks maybe late 20's), she is not dead yet. If she can take this experience and grow from that and learn from people who have given her advice, like Tim, then maybe, just maybe, she can step up to be a fashion designer--she's not there yet. My concern though would be that due to the way she has portrayed herself or the way the show has portrayed her plus her less than dismal showing at FW, she may have gotten a reputation she can not get away from. And, bad reps in the world of fashion for whatever reason are very, very hard to break away from. This stigma may follow her for quite sometime.
Perhaps Tim can help her (through Parsons or other connections)--he did seem to favor her quite a bit. He obviously did see some promise in her (and that says so much in itself for her talent and ability) and I don't believe it is because he has a soft-spot for longshots.
The producers would have done so much more for Wendy if they had just let her be eliminated when she should have been, offered her some much needed advice and direction, and let her come back in the next season's shows--if they have one, and it looks like they will.
But the producers followed the same tired, sorry ass "reality" show formula and the fix was in.
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YES, YES, YES! Ericats! Someone who see's the light and expresses it well.
Much ado about Wendy has nothing to do with her malicious attempts to further her "agenda" to Fashion Week (since she obviously did not have the skill) and whatever exploitation the producers of PR did to portray that agenda, but in the fact she is/was so less deserving of the opportunity to be at Fashion Week than some of the other designers. IMHO, if the producers kept her going each week, challenge to challenge, to keep the *drama* in the show...well, they did themselves, the viewers, and Wendy herself a big major disservice.
Wendy, is supposedly 40 years old (although to me she looks much older, but people with those *itchy personalities seem to age more--look at Kara only a couple of years younger than Wendy and she looks maybe late 20's), she is not dead yet. If she can take this experience and grow from that and learn from people who have given her advice, like Tim, then maybe, just maybe, she can step up to be a fashion designer--she's not there yet. My concern though would be that due to the way she has portrayed herself or the way the show has portrayed her plus her less than dismal showing at FW, she may have gotten a reputation she can not get away from. And, bad reps in the world of fashion for whatever reason are very, very hard to break away from. This stigma may follow her for quite sometime.
Perhaps Tim can help her (through Parsons or other connections)--he did seem to favor her quite a bit. He obviously did see some promise in her (and that says so much in itself for her talent and ability) and I don't believe it is because he has a soft-spot for longshots.
The producers would have done so much more for Wendy if they had just let her be eliminated when she should have been, offered her some much needed advice and direction, and let her come back in the next season's shows--if they have one, and it looks like they will.
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"i just need a rum chaser with my lithium....."
yay...my new best friend!
"what is this catfight about again?"
I was merely commenting on the fact that the term "moral values" and "moral justice" are being used to discuss a reality show...as opposed to say, the war in Iraq? :-) And of course that means I'm a Wendy defender...I think I've said in all my previous posts that my favorites are Jay and Nora? But anyway.
....isn't moral judgement a part of everything?...don't we assess everything from the newspapers we buy to the shows we watch to the candidates we vote for, in one way or another, as a moral judgement on our parts?....i think so, though i would say that comparing the opinions people express over reality tv to the opinions people express over iraq is a bit of a stretch....plus, i'm not a big believer in personal consistancy, in that i don't think its how we really are....i contradict myself on a daily basis, therefore what i say here one day might shift into something else the next day....i suppose its a burden of freedom....we are free to be petty
(kiss to kevin....*smack*)
...i forget, what is this catfight about again?...nevermind, i just need a rum chaser with my lithium.....
lol, if this lithium and prozac stuff and different kind of drinks help like that, then pass the cases and I'll be a cocktail virgin no more!
...i implore you to partake in the chemical insanity that has molded me into the benzodizapene fairy that i am today....don't worry about the loss of vision...after a while you just don't care
lol, if this lithium and prozac stuff and different kind of drinks help like that, then pass the cases and I'll be a cocktail virgin no more!
...i implore you to partake in the chemical insanity that has molded me into the benzodizapene fairy that i am today....don't worry about the loss of vision...after a while you just don't care
OK, for all of you who claim Wendy didn't steal Kara Saun's fabric, check out what Tim himself says on the website. His comments on all the episodes are very enlightening, by the way. Here's what he says about the fabric:
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As unhappy as I was about the situation, I believe that the contretemps spurred by Wendy's heist of Kara's fabric was a non-issue in the end and may have done Kara a favor. I believe it wasn't the fabric that won Wendy the challenge; it was the pant that lost it for Kara.
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So there you have it. The judges knew about the heist and didn't figure it into their decision.
He also has interesting things to say about why Austin lost.
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As unhappy as I was about the situation, I believe that the contretemps spurred by Wendy's heist of Kara's fabric was a non-issue in the end and may have done Kara a favor. I believe it wasn't the fabric that won Wendy the challenge; it was the pant that lost it for Kara.
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So there you have it. The judges knew about the heist and didn't figure it into their decision.
He also has interesting things to say about why Austin lost.
--Twitchly
For the record, I, like the rest of the world, think that the final three, if based on pure talent and not meeting challenges would have/should have been Austin Jay and Kara. News flash, however, to you Austin Lovers/Wendy haters -- Austin got a FW show just as if he were in the final 3! Maybe not the way he wanted to, because he wasn't eligible to be "the one" who gets the cash in the end. I don't think many people would have assumed he would win the whole shebang anyway. So, yeah, Wendy probably didn't deserve the slot, but you know what -- since they needed a decoy, she would have gotten a show anyway too! The other contestants were really pretty young, and still have shots at this opportunity (maybe better shots now than prior to PR). Bottom line, all the people who really deserved a show (even Kevin!) got one. And one person who didn't deserve it, did. Big deal. So could we all stop kvetching now? (never mind, I know the answer). But keep in mind Wendy has less chance of winning over Jay and Kara than I do of becoming the Queen of England. And yes, it appears we will all have the joy of seeing her torn to shreds by the other designers next week. So we don't need to.
Did you say "Fear Based" puhlease. The show is about fashion---how can that evoke "Fear"? I commented on what I saw as attempts by Wendy to focus more on the bodies of models of color rather than "dressing" the bodies. For the first challenge she focused more on where the model is from (Brazil). Excuse me? This competition is about fashion and being cutting edge. I spoke on it because it's true and I CAN. I am not asking permission. There are soo many things being said about Wendy on this board that are over the top and in comparison my comment doesn't even come close to some of the other comments I have read about her. Now, either way she has no talent and no business being in the top 3. The comment I made is one of many I have made about her. I would bet my last dollar that she doesn't even know how to dress a person of color (without leaving a body part uncovered )and I am sure that she doesn't plan to and that is a good thing.
I stand by my comment because it is true and I don't give a damn about your opinion of what I wrote. The old saying is "Truth hearts".
I spoke truth. Who ever heard of a designer who can't even make a bathing suit bottom? The bathing suit was very pretty but I don't believe she didn't know how to make bottoms. Give me a break please.
Even a judge said something about the lack of clothes on one of Wendys models. I noticed she didn't have a problem covering "other" models.
As far as your comment about Kara Saun at least she knows how to finish an outfit. I don't have the same problems with Austins, Kevins, or Jays fashions and even the other designers so to respond to me like I am a crazy rascist is wrong. You don't know a damn thing about me. I simply called it the way I saw it and that can't be wrong. Everyone has a right to voice an opinion and if I had wrote something wrong it would have been removed from the message boards.
Funny you tell me to shove my rights when all I did was excercise them.
"Kara likes to humiliate white women" you say? How is Kara doing that?
Any you say I have issues...me thinks you may have a few.
I stand by my comment because it is true and I don't give a damn about your opinion of what I wrote. The old saying is "Truth hearts".
I spoke truth. Who ever heard of a designer who can't even make a bathing suit bottom? The bathing suit was very pretty but I don't believe she didn't know how to make bottoms. Give me a break please.
Even a judge said something about the lack of clothes on one of Wendys models. I noticed she didn't have a problem covering "other" models.
As far as your comment about Kara Saun at least she knows how to finish an outfit. I don't have the same problems with Austins, Kevins, or Jays fashions and even the other designers so to respond to me like I am a crazy rascist is wrong. You don't know a damn thing about me. I simply called it the way I saw it and that can't be wrong. Everyone has a right to voice an opinion and if I had wrote something wrong it would have been removed from the message boards.
Funny you tell me to shove my rights when all I did was excercise them.
"Kara likes to humiliate white women" you say? How is Kara doing that?
Any you say I have issues...me thinks you may have a few.
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Perhaps Tim can help her (through Parsons or other connections)--he did seem to favor her quite a bit. He obviously did see some promise in her (and that says so much in itself for her talent and ability) and I don't believe it is because he has a soft-spot for longshots.
That just rung a bell - "Wendy, a.k.a. 'The Longshot.'" Hm... I think Bravo has kept her on not only because the audience needs someone to vilify, but because they thought we would root for "the underdog" that "doesn't have much time left before she goes..." Boo hoo hoo. Obviously, it didn't work and I hope they don't try it again.
Your criticism (if you call it that) of TTB sure suggests you as a Wendy Defendy. Maybe you ought to check your calendar.
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Maybe we're supposed to hate her. I doubt that's why the other designers tend to hate her, though. This wasn't created outta thin air, as some would have it. I wanted to see that your points weren't taken in that direction.
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Good points, though I think the situation stinks for all of these reasons and that it seems her undeservingness as a designer was helped by a lot of extraneous factors, regardless of which ones you think mattered most.
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I didn't buy what he said completely. I do think the color issue mattered because the "guest" seemed to go for color. I've already said what I think Austin should have done.
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"Your criticism (if you call it that) of TTB sure suggests you as a Wendy Defendy"
Nope...that's your (wrong) assumption. I think she's a lousy designer, and has come across as whiney, insecure and annoying. I just don't think she's the Antichrist, and I don't see a real tragedy that she's in the final 3.
"Maybe you ought to check your calendar."
It's Feb. 13, and you still haven't found my posts that defended La Pepper.
Nope...that's your (wrong) assumption. I think she's a lousy designer, and has come across as whiney, insecure and annoying. I just don't think she's the Antichrist, and I don't see a real tragedy that she's in the final 3.
"Maybe you ought to check your calendar."
It's Feb. 13, and you still haven't found my posts that defended La Pepper.
Why else would you attack TTB with your calendar crack? You don't make much sense.
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Perhaps Tim can help her (through Parsons or other connections)--he did seem to favor her quite a bit. He obviously did see some promise in her (and that says so much in itself for her talent and ability) and I don't believe it is because he has a soft-spot for longshots.
That just rung a bell - "Wendy, a.k.a. 'The Longshot.'" Hm... I think Bravo has kept her on not only because the audience needs someone to vilify, but because they thought we would root for "the underdog" that "doesn't have much time left before she goes..." Boo hoo hoo. Obviously, it didn't work and I hope they don't try it again.
Well, usually the underdog or longshot, is someone or something we all like, kinda like the Boston Red Sox. When they won, it was almost like a nation, or well half a nation, won. If W was cast in the role of the underdog (even though that was Starr's moniker), you gotta be likable, so people can pull for you. How can someone be a [expletive deleted] and an underdog? That equals loser, which is how Wendy will forever be seen in my book.
They are started posting pictures from tonights grammys on getty iamges
Nothing in life is absolute. I don't like Wendy but I don't agree she's Satan incarnate and think a lot of the reactions on the board are a bit much. Was that so hard to understand?
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I don't think she'll be able to pull off the "Why Me?" thing like she's done all season. Keep in kind she won't have the luxury of selective editting during this episode like the past, and she'll the full brunt of eleven of her former competitors. Funny, it looks like Mario of all people (Who was only in for two episodes) lays the groundwork by asking the question about her relying on trickery and manipulation to advance and not talent.Good for him.
No, she won't be able to just dismiss anything. And truth be told, I think Wendy has done long term damage to her future as a big league designer, not only because of her behavior over the past several months (Yes, some may argue that some top designers can have attitudes, but not one who is a start up), but just from the tepid reviews she received in the press. She may have gotten a "reward" in going to Fashion Week, but watch, everyone, it's all going to backfire horribly. I really believe that.
You are brilliant, jmfitz! All along I thought Wendy didn't have the foresight to see what her actions will do to her career. It's better to be Easy Breezy like Kara, than to cast yourself as some weird "longshot." (Although PR calls Wendy this, she did allude to something similar, when she says something to camera about not being a threat to Kara Saun; Wendy does put herself down a lot on the show).
I can't wait until next week!!!!!
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I was going to say the same thing: "Read Tim's Take." While everyone is obviously entitled to his or her own opinion about who should be in and who out, I think Tim's Take explains the judges' rationale really well. And if you read them all in order from Epi One (as I just did because I only started watching the show at episode 7) I think it puts Austin's elimination in the context of his performance throughout the show. Contrary to what some have said in this and other threads, I don't really think it was a matter of giving the whole decision over to the O'Dell person, but a reflection of his work in the whole series of challenges.
Also, please don't flame me for defending Wendy because I don't really deeply care about any of them, but it should be noted that Austin and Wendy did win the same number of challenges.
Hi a la Francaise. It's true that both Austin and Wendy won the same number of challenges, but if we were looking at pure stats, do you know the amount of times Wendy was the second-to-last to go? I think it was like 90% of the time. In fact, it was only the BR challenge and the wedding dress challenge that were good challenges for Wendy. She basically got D minuses all the way through.
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Maybe we're supposed to hate her. I doubt that's why the other designers tend to hate her, though. This wasn't created outta thin air, as some would have it. I wanted to see that your points weren't taken in that direction.
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I think that the other designers hate her because 1. she's not that good of a designer yet she got to go to fashion week, and 2. she annoyed them.
Yes, I don't think that the drama was created from thin air. It's more like they focused on her and what happened around her was heightened. The contestants were together for 3 weeks and on each episode we got to see a few days worth of footage crammed into 45 minutes and Wendy dominates. So something that happened that most people, in real life, might forget about or that might be ignored becomes the center of attention. So that's what I mean about manipulating the images to create drama.
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