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SANISA

February 14, 2005 - 12:06 AM

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After watching the last episode (Grammy challenge) again and noticing the segment that has Kara narrating a lead-in to Wendy going back to the apartment and printing photographs of their earlier days on PR. Did anyone notice that carefully placed (?) at the end of Kara's narration? Wendy, digital camara, printing photos....hmmmm?

It would be very interesting to know if the photo that was drawn on was a film print or a digital print.

I don't think it was one of the other designers though. As a friend of mine pointed out, all the other designers left that had motive and opportunity to make that mark were artists. Being an artist/if you were an artist, would you have stopped with a scrawly mustache? Nope. I wouldn't have ever done such a thing in the first place, but if I ever was so offended and mad to ruin a picture of someone's child like that, I don't think I would have stopped with a mustache, and a very poor looking mustache at that. I also don't think it was Morgan as others have thought because from what I understand the models were never in the designer's work room without the designers there. That leaves the production crew, someone at Parson's accessible to the room, or Wendy herself--that is if I were Monk (oops another network).

You could tell Wendy loves her child and was seriously hurt. You are way off.

Godiva

February 14, 2005 - 12:15 AM

I think it was Morgan. It's not like there was a guard on the door. She could have gone in there after she was eliminated. And she's immature enough to blame Wendy and take such a childish revenge. But I think Wendy was stupid to bring a picture she only had one copy of and no negative and display it in such a public place. She was asking it to be lost or damaged in some way. That said, the picture CAN be repaired. If she's got a friend with a computer and photoshop it can be scanned, retouched and then printed out like new.

SleepyD

February 14, 2005 - 01:36 AM

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I think it was Morgan. It's not like there was a guard on the door. She could have gone in there after she was eliminated. And she's immature enough to blame Wendy and take such a childish revenge. But I think Wendy was stupid to bring a picture she only had one copy of and no negative and display it in such a public place. She was asking it to be lost or damaged in some way. That said, the picture CAN be repaired. If she's got a friend with a computer and photoshop it can be scanned, retouched and then printed out like new.

Perhaps so, but, TMU there was some considerable distance/floors between where the workroom was and the studio(runway)/greenroom/make-up rooms were, that would leave some awfully major malicious thought and intent on Morgan's part. And, wasn't she eliminated on the challenge before Wendy noticed the mark to her daughter's picture--the 2055 challenge? Wendy didn't notice the mark until several days after Morgan would have had the opportunity to do so? Boy, a lot of inspiration that picture was.

I do agree as well that by what is shown on t.v. the picture was not unrepairable by any means (Wendy insinuates it was ruined), and since she [Wendy] does seem to be digital/computer savvy in some sense, she should have known that and not have gone so overboard as to accuse the other designers when she had no knowledge or evidence whether one of them did it or not. She was so set on making herself out to be a victim that she didn't realize again how she was alienating herself from the rest of the group.

I know at that point nerves were running high, it was hot in New York at the time, and she was upset. All the more reason for a woman of 40 years (who is a mother) to take a step back and analyze the situation, and another reason why she would have a very tough time doing business in the fashion world.

lsheldon

February 14, 2005 - 01:54 AM

Do we even know if Wendy HAS a daughter? I wouldn't put it past her to take a photo from a magazine and claim that it was her kid's picture. And I do believe that she drew in the moustache herself. Weird chick.

SleepyD

February 14, 2005 - 02:04 AM

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Do we even know if Wendy HAS a daughter? I wouldn't put it past her to take a photo from a magazine and claim that it was her kid's picture. And I do believe that she drew in the moustache herself. Weird chick.

Yes, she does. She talks about her and she's in her website's video--same kid on website video that is in the PR photo caper.

lsheldon

February 14, 2005 - 02:20 AM

Austin and Kara Saun are tied for number one, in my book. Jay is very talented, but his designs are just not to my taste. But Wendy?????? Come on, producers, 'fess up. She's just there to boost the ratings, isn't she? Provoke a cat-fight every week, and watch the revenues soar.

I was so impressed by what Austin said in his post-booting-out interview. He talked about staying true to one's vision, and one's sense of self. He's taken a lot of criticism from the "experts" about sticking to his own vision. I wonder what would happen if designers were to do just that. Hmmm, let's imagine... Well, we might get the likes of Oscar de la Renta, Carolina Herrera, Balenciaga, Givenchy, Chanel... yeah, you're right - we can't have that. Better to pander to the lowest common denominator, and have hacks like Wendy churning out knock-offs of knock-offs. Better to elevate mediocrity to an art-form, than to recognize true art. For a twenty-three year old young man to have such courage of his convictions is quite remarkable. Within five years, the celebrities won't be able to get an appointment with him to design their Oscar gowns. And Wendy will have slinked back underneath that rock she crawled out from in West Armpit, Whereever-the-Heck she lives. Austin Scarlett is a treasure!

lsheldon

February 14, 2005 - 02:30 AM

Yeah, Jay did talk about having designed for porn films. He remarked that all the money he had earned doing that had been "dirty money." He said he was doing this, bascially, to legitimize himself.

While I abhor the porn industry, I must congratulate Jay on trying to get out. He's very talented, and I don't think he needs to go back to the "dark side."

lsheldon

February 14, 2005 - 02:54 AM

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Do we even know if Wendy HAS a daughter? I wouldn't put it past her to take a photo from a magazine and claim that it was her kid's picture. And I do believe that she drew in the moustache herself. Weird chick.

Yes, she does. She talks about her and she's in her website's video--same kid on website video that is in the PR photo caper.

Oh, okay. My mistake. Didn't know these people all had websites. What else should I have expected, though?

georgiawoman1953

February 14, 2005 - 03:04 AM

ok did anyone see nancy odell's tweaked dress from Cruella????? i did not and cannot find it

nyblue

February 14, 2005 - 05:11 AM

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Hey, the New York Post did this article and quoted some of you guys. Take a gander:
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I think I have read every post on this frickin' message board (I'm serious), but I don't think I have ever read those statements. Good articles, but I think they could have used better quotes.

I have read those statements (though not the one about Wendy, even in the infrequent Wendy-praise). But I agree, they could have chosen a lot more eloquent ones. It seems that the writer just skimmed the posts here, though, and the comments about shock and liking Austin mirror ones that were common on that day. And the writer doesn't want to show herself up by quoting the more zingy writing of unknowns!

Puddinhead

February 14, 2005 - 06:02 AM

O'Dell said she likes bright colors, and red and orange, and Austin designed a pastel blue monstrosity - it looked like a Maypole in a windstorm. I don't know if she's a "D-List celebrity" but she was the one selected by the producers to make the choice.

My comments were about Austin's designs. He is clearly a man among men, a manly man, no matter how much makeup and chiffon he wears.

If you really think my post was a "malicious attack" and "needlessly cruel"... gee, I want to come live on your happy planet. I just thought it was the opinions of one person who happens to disagree with you. Do you always take it so personally?

KowaiShoujo

February 14, 2005 - 06:17 AM

I really like Austin's work, too bad he got cut ><
I hope Kara wins and Windy needs to stop being such a b***h

ThomsTeddyBear

February 14, 2005 - 06:56 AM

Ladies, come on...we're all cool right? Granted I can be quite aggressive on the boards but I wish no real animosity to anyone - I don't think any of us do, right? Lisakaz, thanks - you're a most cool new friend and I'm glad to see you on the QE boards too! Morgasmo, I may not agree with some of the things you say but I wish you no kind of ill will at all. Hopefully you also know I only give what's given - I'd think anyone would do that and I wouldn't blame them.

Today is Valentine's Day and I'm feeling especially good - surprising since weekend events SUCKED, lol. Today I don't even feel like bashing you-know-who (doesn't mean I won't later,lol). I'm feelin' the love! Ok my love is the love of life because I still can't get my hands on Thom! Hmmm...my daughter and I have not been out in a long time, I think it's time to visit Friday's! We usually go for Mother's Day but wasn't able to last year. Changes in child support now make that possible - think I'll do that today

*{{{HUGS}}} all around...skips lightly away while throwing daisies from a basket*

ThomsTeddyBear

February 14, 2005 - 07:03 AM

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I just saw a picture of Eve at tonights Grammy Awards. I am wondering if she is wearing a Kara Saun Out fit.
You can see it on Gettyimages.com

Also interesting to note, for whoever (judges, etc...) saying Austin's dress wasn't "grammy", there sure were alot of women there who must have confused the event with the Oscars.

Just goes to show that just because you deem yourself an "expert" on what people wear to what event, sometimes you're just flat out wrong.

Loomchick

February 14, 2005 - 07:08 AM

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Also interesting to note, for whoever (judges, etc...) saying Austin's dress wasn't "grammy", there sure were alot of women there who must have confused the event with the Oscars.

I was thinking the same thing last night while I watched the Grammy's . . . lots 'o glam! It'll make Nancy O'Dell's "tweaked" Big Bird dress look more ridiculous by comparison . . . It was nice to see so many people dressing nice, rather than going for shock value . . . although, there was plenty of that too.

ThomsTeddyBear

February 14, 2005 - 07:10 AM

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True, rb.
My all-time favorite anti-Wendy quote from corgrip over at fansofrealitytv.com:

I think Wendy stole the dye, snatched the pattern piece, drew the mustache, and shot from behind the grass knoll.

ROFLMBO!!! Omg, I'm at work and laughing my eyes out, lol!

ThomsTeddyBear

February 14, 2005 - 07:13 AM

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It could be Nora or Starr, but all signs point to good ole Wendy leaving. I definitely don't see anybody trying to [expletive deleted] out the aforementioned two.

The previews made the group therapy session/cast reunion look very charged. Will the epi live up to the preview?

Mario looked like he was ready to go at it with bold, tell-it-like-it-is questions. It's going to be interesting...plus, Mario is HOT!

iggystar

February 14, 2005 - 07:18 AM

I agree, there were quite a few extremely dressy, ball gown type outfits. Queen Latifah, Beyonce, I'd even say Fergie from the Black Eyed Peas were pretty dressy, Star Jones-Reynold commentated with a outfit fit for Oscar night.

ThomsTeddyBear

February 14, 2005 - 07:25 AM

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2) Kara Saun: Wendy "stole my colors". Lady, since when do you own colors? Are you Crayola the Company? She came off as very smug and superior. Very unflattering. I'll chalk it up to the pressure of the final challenge.

Wouldnt you say the same thing if someone else took the fabric directly from your table? You're reading a bit too much into the whole "stole my colors" deal. Basically their competing to make a -life- for themselves. If I had planned out an outfit, picked the colors and laid them out on the table before me, just to see my competition walk over, and grab the fabric I pulled out, I would say she stole it as well. Only if I were in that situation

I hear ya! I would have had NO problem taking it back even if it were right out of her hands.

ThomsTeddyBear

February 14, 2005 - 07:32 AM

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Correction from an everlasting Amazing Race Fan: it was AR 6. Season 7 begins airing in three weeks.

And yes, I was horrified when the model team won. I mean, this girl Kendra, she blatanly remarked that Ethiopia was a horrible, wretched place and that "they just keep breeding!" Then, typical of a model, she couldn't down *two* peices of deep-dish pizza!

what? WHAT??! SHE SAID THAT??!!!

ok

ok

alright

point me to the nearest AR board!

nabakov5

February 14, 2005 - 07:43 AM

i certainly hope that the weds. show gives kevin an oppurtunity to speak and possibly defend himself against his "alleged" personality quirks....who am i kidding?...i just hope they give him lots and lots of face time with the camera....this will be my last chance to see the babe....(whimper whimper whimper)

...oh, and i think that either wendy drew on her own picture or the producers drew on it.....and i think jay will win the competition, though i think it would be super sweet if jay won and then turned around and offered Kara a partnership and then they both ventured out and changed the face of fashion together....the label could be called jaysaun...get it?....(jason)

ThomsTeddyBear

February 14, 2005 - 07:49 AM

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After watching the last episode (Grammy challenge) again and noticing the segment that has Kara narrating a lead-in to Wendy going back to the apartment and printing photographs of their earlier days on PR. Did anyone notice that carefully placed (?) at the end of Kara's narration? Wendy, digital camara, printing photos....hmmmm?

It would be very interesting to know if the photo that was drawn on was a film print or a digital print.

I don't think it was one of the other designers though. As a friend of mine pointed out, all the other designers left that had motive and opportunity to make that mark were artists. Being an artist/if you were an artist, would you have stopped with a scrawly mustache? Nope. I wouldn't have ever done such a thing in the first place, but if I ever was so offended and mad to ruin a picture of someone's child like that, I don't think I would have stopped with a mustache, and a very poor looking mustache at that. I also don't think it was Morgan as others have thought because from what I understand the models were never in the designer's work room without the designers there. That leaves the production crew, someone at Parson's accessible to the room, or Wendy herself--that is if I were Monk (oops another network).

You could tell Wendy loves her child and was seriously hurt. You are way off.

It's not way off at all. So she loves her child, doesn't mean she can't print out a digital pic, mark it up, then cry "foul". With digital you can print up a hundred pics and claim to never have a copy or negative but that pic is stored on that camera's media to print over and over again.

britanyb

February 14, 2005 - 08:01 AM

hey everyone,
um yea im soooooo upset the wendy is part of the final 3, i hate her soo much, and plus she beat oout austin, what!!!!! i love him soo mush he is so cool

knitgirl30

February 14, 2005 - 08:06 AM

I realized after thinking about it that the Grammy outfit she made had a top that was basically a copy of the top that Nancy O'Dell wore when she came to talk to the designers in the workroom - both in color and style. Then when she was on her own with the skirt it was just awful, with the D-rings, feathers, etc.

The only other time she was successful was the Banana Republic challange, which they picked because it was so much like some of the things they already had in the collection. In other words, again, she copied the look.

So I think that left to her own devices she really is not a creative person capable of her own unique vision. She can only succeed when she is copying clothing that she sees. This is even more evident when you consider if she has her own unique style. You can certainly recognize the style of clothes designed by Jay, Kara, or Austin, but you draw a blank when trying to visualize Wendy's style. All the other episodes not counting the two where she copied the look from existing clothing, she was all over the place with respect to a style (and in fact almost always one of the worst).

I never could understand the logic of not eliminating her in that episdoe when she didn't even make a bottom to the bathing suit, after their comments about her history of unfinished-looking garments. You almost have to believe that it wasn't an accident and they were told they could not eliminate her because of the ratings.

It is a shame because it resulted in a missed opportunity for some other designer who was talented.

knitgirl30

February 14, 2005 - 08:12 AM

Even in the first minutes of watching the 'drama' on that episode I just found it so annoying that something so trivial was taking time from what could have been interesting footage about the design process.

What, she doesn't have another photograph she can put up instead? Pu-leeese. We see on the next episode she is printing photos like candy. And then according to the preview, they have to go bring this up on the next show. Who cares? Can we move on already? It was asinine about five seconds after it started to air. Why give this annoying woman so much air time to behave badly?

I repeat, who cares? Get another photo, get a life.

yleek69

February 14, 2005 - 08:12 AM

OMG--- that is totally hilarious that you said that about Wendy b/c that's what I've been calling her every week!!! I still cannot believe she beet out Austin to the final 3--I swear I think it's something for the producers to keep stuff stirred up!!!!

britanyb

February 14, 2005 - 08:21 AM

um i can believe it!!, well im happy that kerisaun(sp) and jay made it, but that dos not make what happened to austin any better

ericats

February 14, 2005 - 08:23 AM

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It's sad and pathetic enough to see how emotionally invested some people are in their categorical hatred for Wendy, but it becomes truly disturbing when the word cockroach is bandied about with hateful zeal the same way the Rwandan Hutus used the very same word to dehumanize the minority Tutsis during the 1994 genocide. I can't help but recall the significance of that word as a slur used to incite murder whenever I see it used here to incite crucification of TV character. The two can't be compared, but then again, they can. Given the profound ugliness on display on this board, I have to repeat an observation I read here during the beginning of all this vilification -- that if pressed, it seems it'd be more pleasant to have lunch with Wendy than with many of you.

It seems that for many of us it'd be more pleasant to have lunch with Wendy than with you!

knitgirl30

February 14, 2005 - 08:23 AM

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I'm guessing you will see Nancy tomorrow on Access Hollywood with Wendy's design on, doing a re-cap of the Grammys....NBC at 7:30 pm EST

thanks.i don't watch that show and didn't know when it was on. a lot of people on this board probably appreciate your info.

In my area of the midwest it airs at 3:30pm. Entertainment Tonight is on at the time slot you mention (7:30p EST, 6:30p CST).

yleek69

February 14, 2005 - 08:23 AM

Comparing that [expletive deleted] to Deborah Harry is an insult. She is a mean manulipative backstabbing [expletive deleted]. NOt only is she clueless ,all her designs are frumpy & matronly like her. Hey Wendy how about taking a bath AND brushing that hair once in a while???

Thumbprint

February 14, 2005 - 08:27 AM

I'd like to see Wendy's dress on Nancy O'Dell, but couldn't find a photograph online. Anyone have a link?

knitgirl30

February 14, 2005 - 08:31 AM

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Has anyone seen Nancy O'Dell yet? I am dying to see this dress!

Tonight from 5-8pm CST Joan Rivers has a show on the Grammy Fashions. The first two hours rerun of them greating celebs on the red carpet; the last hour "what worked and what didn't." Let's hope they watched enough of PR to make a comment on Nancy O'Dell's dress!

Did a web search and couldn't find any photos of Nancy O'Dell for the Grammy show.

ericats

February 14, 2005 - 08:37 AM

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i certainly hope that the weds. show gives kevin an oppurtunity to speak and possibly defend himself against his "alleged" personality quirks....who am i kidding?...i just hope they give him lots and lots of face time with the camera....this will be my last chance to see the babe....(whimper whimper whimper)

They showed new previews for the group therapy session last night and did you see the coat that Kevin was wearing? It was fabulous!

Cindy1

February 14, 2005 - 08:51 AM

By Episode 9, everyone was pretty stressed and it was not a good time to get their best designs from them.

Jay was just saying what probably everyone else felt--that Kara Saun was the best of the competition so far. She had won the most challenges after all. Jay also mentioned at some point that although he was chosen for the show for his wit, it had brought out his competitive side as well. His downfall here was that he ignored his client's color preferences. If he had done the dress in blues or greens he would have won, I think. He is the one I'd like to see win, but I don't know if he'd be willing to sell his soul to be commercial, marketable, and kow-tow to the business end of fashion. That out-of-left field query during the swimsuit judging about being too flamboyant to handle the business end of fashion let the cat out of the bag as to what the judges were really looking for.

Kara -- she had it won until she insisted on those pants with the dress. It was the one time when her ability to do so much within the time constraints backfired on her. Also the replay of the predesign consult with O'Dell showed both women nodding when O'Dell said what colors she preferred on-camera. And from what was shown on the show, that fabric warehouse wasn't exactly overflowing with orange, tangerine, and apricot. I've had fabric "stolen" that I've put on the cutting table at my local fabric store while I've continued to shop for other fabric and trims. Moral: Do not let anything you've chosen out of your hands or cart until its been cut and tagged. Kara will either end up with the grand prize or with enough financial support to create her own line of clothing

Austin rightly wanted to get O'Dell out of the denim outfit she'd worn to the previous Grammys. He took the blue she had worn then and morphed it into an Austin original. And the evidence of a lot of elegant gowns at this year's Grammys proved Austin had predicted this new yearning for glamour and women dressing more feminine last summer. I hope the exposure his designs got him on PR gets him financial backing to start his own line and design for private clients, like O'Dell, who need his help.

Wendy should not have taken that fabric if Kara needed the whole bolt, but again, it isn't yours until its been cut and tagged. Since part of the reward is a mentorship with BR, you have to design for the client/market/company and Tim's job was to give advice and guidance and see what the contestants did with it. This show wasn't a billionaire looking for the next original designer--it was about finding a marketable designer with talent to stand out--but make desirable clothing to sell to a buying public. And Wendy just sqweaked through, whether we like it or not. She was picked for the show because she was an outsider and sure to be a good villian--note that the judges fed this because she was the one asked as to whether Austin or Kevin were good leaders(of course we don't know if everyone was asked their opinions of anyone else's leadership, or skills or whatever when before the judges). Of course I think the team challenges were created to feed any conflict and get people like Kevin kicked off--the team leader couldn't be expected to both create his design and oversee the team within the time constraints. Not fair.

nabakov5

February 14, 2005 - 09:05 AM

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i certainly hope that the weds. show gives kevin an oppurtunity to speak and possibly defend himself against his "alleged" personality quirks....who am i kidding?...i just hope they give him lots and lots of face time with the camera....this will be my last chance to see the babe....(whimper whimper whimper)

They showed new previews for the group therapy session last night and did you see the coat that Kevin was wearing? It was fabulous!

...YES I DID!!! AND YES IT WAS FABULOUS....he has that "sailor returning home after braving the north sea" look about him....hot!!!!....is it just you and me or are there other kevinaholics out there?....don't be shy girls (guys)...come out and claim your fantasy!

sarahcatherine

February 14, 2005 - 09:06 AM

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Well, that's kinda what I thought "the game" was supposed to reveal -- which one of the 12 contestants had sufficient personal vision to be worthy of the title of "designer."

Who cares if they can design for Banana Republic? For the USPS? For Nancy O'Dell, for chrissake? I thought the most revealing challenge was actually the first one. The only constraint on the designers was their own ability to see potential in their raw materials and maximize it. I thought the "envy" concept worked, too. After that, the "tasks" became much more restrictive and dependent upon the opinions of others. BR, the airheaded models, Richard Johnson, the Post Office, friggin Nancy O'Dell. Not to mention, choosing "team leaders" and then penalizing them for their leadership frailties. IMO, that is not how to discover the true potential of someone's personal vision. That is how to harness and diminish it.

This series got off to a great start and quickly crashed. Unless there are enormous revisions to the "formula," it's a one-season wonder. At least in this household.

I'm not sure that personal vision is the only thing that is required to make it as a designer. Sure, some of the challenges seem to be pointless, as they have little to do with pure vision, but being successful isn't just a matter of having beautiful clothes to sell.

Having versatility, having the strength to persevere, being able to take criticism and still find the desire/energy to design a new collection after a flop, being able to sell yourself and your vision, knowing what your market is looking for...all of these things and many more are required to make it as a fashion designer for more than just one season. It's a stressful job, and if having a strong vision is the only resource you have, you're not going to make it.

I don't think the point of the show was to find the person with the strongest vision. It's to find the next big designer, and part of that means finding the person who can make their business work. It does require being a good leader, being able to get people to write about you and to grow and adapt to an ever changing market.

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February 14, 2005 - 09:25 AM

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i certainly hope that the weds. show gives kevin an oppurtunity to speak and possibly defend himself against his "alleged" personality quirks....who am i kidding?...i just hope they give him lots and lots of face time with the camera....this will be my last chance to see the babe....(whimper whimper whimper)

They showed new previews for the group therapy session last night and did you see the coat that Kevin was wearing? It was fabulous!

...YES I DID!!! AND YES IT WAS FABULOUS....he has that "sailor returning home after braving the north sea" look about him....hot!!!!....is it just you and me or are there other kevinaholics out there?....don't be shy girls (guys)...come out and claim your fantasy!

Caught my eye, I must admit he was looking quite hot! You totally got the description down: "he has that "sailor returning home after braving the north sea" look about him....". Looking forward to seeing him AND Austin!

Caligula

February 14, 2005 - 09:37 AM

She didn't wear Wendy's monstrosity. She had on some light blue (that's what it looked like in the picture) dress. She definitely would have worn Austin's. He got screwed.

The dress she wore looked kind of frumpy.

d2000

February 14, 2005 - 09:38 AM

I checked Yahoo TV, and it said Access Hollywood will be all repeats until a new episode on Friday. Sometimes they're wrong though. Hope so.

Tman875

February 14, 2005 - 09:39 AM

I liked 3 of the 4 designs and agree that Kara's design was good until she added the pants. I even think that it would have looked better if the pant was a much slimmer fit. I didn't dislike Austin's design but I thought it was too flowy for the awards show that it was going to be worn to.

I did agree that Wendy's dress was a good design, but I think that her overall design displays have been much poorer than the other three. I really think that Kara, Jay, & Austin should have been the final three.

d2000

February 14, 2005 - 09:40 AM

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She didn't wear Wendy's monstrosity. She had on some light blue (that's what it looked like in the picture) dress. She definitely would have worn Austin's. He got screwed.

The dress she wore looked kind of frumpy.

How do you know?

iggystar

February 14, 2005 - 09:41 AM

Are you sure that picture wasn't from a previous year Grammy awards. I saw that blue dress as well when I checked gettyimages, but I don't think it was from this year. She better had wore that dress!!!!!

And I don't remember seeing any orange on the red carpet this year...probably because they weren't in Miami like last year...duh.

d2000

February 14, 2005 - 09:45 AM

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And I don't remember seeing any orange on the red carpet this year...probably because they weren't in Miami like last year...duh.

Actually, eonline's fashion police chastised Queen Latifah for wearing orange this year. I'll cut and past the whole blurb:

Bitter Fruit
No question that Queen Latifah has ruling class. Her bright-orange off-the-shoulder gown, Lorraine Schwartz diamond necklace and polite wavy hair are nothing if not sophisticated. Maybe a bit too elegant for the flashy, sassy Grammys. Save this citrus stuff for the way stuffier Oscars.

Or maybe it was mostly because the dress was too glamorous...

fashionpassion

February 14, 2005 - 10:05 AM

If tonight's episode of Access Hollywood is a repeat (I would be surprised, but who knows), on Wed. 2/16 they will air (in conjunction with Fuse TV) a 30 minute special on the Grammy's, red-carpet and all. If you go to the Access Hollywood website, you can see the story.

LoveJayAusKara

February 14, 2005 - 10:10 AM

I looked all last night for Nancy O'Dell to see how she "tweaked" Wendy's dress but I was very disappointed, I never saw her or the dress.

Did anyone see Nancy O'Dell at the Grammy's. I kept flipping channels between the "E" and Access Hollywood and never saw her. I was disappointed.

PRaddict

February 14, 2005 - 10:11 AM

You think she's unoriginal? Everything you just wrote has been repeated ad nauseum on this board.

She did have the vision to abruptly pick up from her vacation, fly down to PR auditions and get herself on the show and into the top 3.

Most of fashion is copying something that's been done before. There isn't much true originality going on. I personally don't believe fashion needs to be radically changed every season.

I think Wendy does have a true style. It isn't funky or unique but that doesn't mean it isn't a style. I looked at lots of the collections presented at Fashion Week and while there was a fair share of outrageous and conceptual design out there, many designers do the classy and sophisticated thing too. One article called Wendy 'middle America'. Well, look at the map - most of the US is 'middle America'.

I don't think the challenges were good for bringing out the true style of most of the designers. The goal was to get to Fashion Week and then show off their own styles (which they all did wonderfully, I thought).

luvinkpenz

February 14, 2005 - 10:11 AM

I HAVE A TWO YEAR OLD I WOULD NOT BE HURT. I WOULD BE MAD. I THINK SHE SEEMED A LITTLE TOO "WHY ME"

iggystar

February 14, 2005 - 10:21 AM

Ok, that outfit looked red to me. It was not the orange of O'Dell's dress. Still there were other gowns out there just as glam.

luvinkpenz

February 14, 2005 - 10:29 AM

Ok lets stop saying Wendy designs for Middle America. On her own website there are only like 4 gowns (and everything on there was gowns nothing else it seemed) that were not completely see thru.

Maggot

February 14, 2005 - 10:35 AM

I'm still wondering if Wendy's design was so "tweaked" to the point where it vaguely resembles her original idea (Yes that means changing the color, gettting rid fo the feathers, ect.) Does that mean that Wendy still won? If O'dell didnt even wear the dress, does that mean she won? If O'Dell didnt MENTION the fact that it was made my "wendy pepper" then does that mean she won?

The challenge was to wear a dress that Nancy would wear on the red carpet at the grammys. If O'Dell doesnt wear the original dress, how is wendy still the winner?

Man I hope O'dell wore somethign else and this just "Slipped" her mind!