Loomchick
February 16, 2005 - 05:57 PM
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What residents of Middleburg might consider magnificent evening wear is what anyone with an eye for true fashion would deem one step up from a bridesmaid's gown.
That said, I have looked at Wendy's site. Her stuff is revolting. However, it seems that she is able to take very expensive fabrics and do very swishy stuff in a marginally structured fashion; this probably passes as "avant garde" luxe by local standards.
Welcome Queenbeech! Great minds think alike! You're in good company here . . . There are some (not all) that would enthusiastically agree with you!
The images on Wendy's website are awful! Absolutely awful! It's really hard to see the outfits very well because the photography and backgrounds are so bad . . . some kind of amateur-ish point-and-shoot digital camera in bad lighting making the models looking more like they work in a brothel than displaying fashion designs . . . Bad, bad, bad!
Reminds me of the people I know asked friends to do the photography at their wedding to save money . . . not realizing that asking people that may be at a reception with an open bar may not be the best recipe for great photos.
benefitsgoddess
February 16, 2005 - 06:15 PM
Austin - you have such great talent! You designed and shared with us your beautiful, graceful gowns. That's your strength - beauty, grace, charm. The late Grace Kelly would have glowed in your designs!!!! I look forward to seeing your name and designs in the very near future!! You are fantastic!!!!!!!!!!!
ethos
February 16, 2005 - 06:31 PM
I can't stand her. I saw her website and her so-called fasion sucks!
i can't deal w/her!!!
FACE
February 16, 2005 - 06:33 PM
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Ok lets stop saying Wendy designs for Middle America. On her own website there are only like 4 gowns (and everything on there was gowns nothing else it seemed) that were not completely see thru.
Yeah, a lot of women in middle America have been seen sporting sheer dresses with no backs to the skirt!
yes, but you are forgetting how much middle america loves to wear swimsuits without bottoms.
Ew.
jsteele
February 16, 2005 - 06:38 PM
I think Wendy should win..all are acting like babies and ganging up on her. Grow the "f" up? I mean really!!! The saying goes "If you can't say anything nice, keep quiet."
littlezebra
February 16, 2005 - 06:46 PM
Under that rule then WENDY should Shut up cuz she ain't said NOTHIN' NICE! Not that I heard at least.
bardgal
February 16, 2005 - 06:49 PM
she rocks. and all the others are whiny babies. her GAP dress sold out the day it hit the stores - NATIONWIDE. Everyone else is just jealous.
cyaml
February 16, 2005 - 06:52 PM
Everyone knows Wendy now...do you think anyone will buy her designs?
aspiringgal101
February 16, 2005 - 06:56 PM
Ok so I was watching PR and the sole reason that I joined this board was to express to everyone out there that WEndy is absolutly the worst person in the world. Her TERRIBLE fashions aside, she is a (w)itch if there ever was one, and I LOVED how no one clapped when she came out. She has nooo depth in her soul, she is absolutly repulsive! She has NO RIGHT to be at Fashion Week, and I cant WAIT to see her get signed to Wal-Mart if that, because like it was said, I know for a fact that the 40+ women in my kickboxing class where crap like that...is that a vomit face?
ThomsTeddyBear
February 16, 2005 - 07:04 PM
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Thanks for at least granting some ground TTB. And I think people can be upset about Austin being out while Wendy stays and posting it here is okey-dokey with me. No thought police.
Where it gets creepy IMHO is when people decide they have to email a "character" -- a real person, for sure, but someone about whom they know a little based on selective editing, to tell them what a *&it they are. The first amendment is of course, irrelevant, since no one has right to harrass someone because they don't like them. Wendy is no more a "public persona" than George Bush for purposes of the law, and I guarantee you honey that a ton of email (whether from the same or different sources) which qualifies as hate mail to the President would result in FBI activity, First Amendment or not.
Dear heart, Wendy is as much a public persona as the president and I hate them both equally (well their actions because it's not good to hate a person). Bush puts himself in public service - he can be critiqued...whether the person who is doing the critiquing (hate mail, etc...) is investigated or not. Wendy put herself out there in entertainment, like it or hate it, she's going to get what she gives.
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(BTW, we track down people through email addresses all the time. It's a piece of cake if they are in the states or Western Europe. Also, you could check out the successful cases brought against people who, yes, posted on message boards, items which were considered defamatory about public companies. Not the greatest law, maybe, but it's out there. For those of you who post on multiple boards, well, as you might imagine, you've left a lot of clues.) Finally, even if it were not illegal, it is, simply put, unethical (defined as doing the wrong thing when no one is looking). The fact that Wendy is an untalented jerk does not justify someone else's unethical and maybe vicious behavior towards her. The designers on that show were all adults (well, everyone but Starr) and can take care of themselves. They don't need a bunch of people like us who waste an inordinate amount of time speculating on their lives to protect them.
I still work for the agency wherein I've tracked people down as far away as Australia. I don't work for that part of the agency anymore but the legals there still have the power to track - people, companies, etc.
Wendy's behavior and "push" into the final 3 justifies the anger expressed here on the boards AND the emails sent to her...maybe she'll think twice before doing it again. It's not about whether they're grown and can protect themselves or not, it's about us being able to have our say otherwise the only posts on these boards would be from design students and designers leaving out the rest of the public.
Morgasmo
February 16, 2005 - 07:10 PM
As predicted Wendy was not gonna win any popularity contests with the other designers. And as I thought, she basically didn't give a [censored]. That woman must have ice in her veins to sit through that.
Is anybody else willing to agree with me now that Vanessa is a [expletive deleted]? Not only that but a bitter pathetic drunken [censored]? Major points for Jay and Nora (yay) for ripping on her. I bet Wendy was relieved that Vanessa was rambling and therefore deflecting the spotlight from her own suckitude.
I hope Jay wins...Kara Saun is just getting on my nerves in the last couple of shows. Don't ask why.
Jay and Austin, ironically (because being the larger-than-life personalities), came across as having the best perspective on the whole thing.
Daniel you don't know [censored] about clothes. Jay = Punky Brewster??
ThomsTeddyBear
February 16, 2005 - 07:14 PM
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I think Wendy should win..all are acting like babies and ganging up on her. Grow the "f" up? I mean really!!! The saying goes "If you can't say anything nice, keep quiet."
Then Wendy should have shut the **** up a long time ago. There's another saying, "if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen."
Morgasmo
February 16, 2005 - 07:15 PM
Legend to my previous post:
1st [censored]: crap
2nd [censored]: a-hole
3rd [censored]: doo-doo
that is all.
Rob45
February 16, 2005 - 07:16 PM
I wasn't surprised that many of the designers turned on Wendy. Most of these designers, while having superior talent, have the maturity level of a spiteful junior high preteen turning on the judging grown up, all lacking independent thought, embracing the pack mentality with amazing efficiency. Their youthful smugness is tempered only by their lack of personal depth, education, and life experience. Despite their verbal disdain for her, the other designers are amazingly threatened and jealous of Wendy. She provided a convenient outlet for their anxiety and self doubt. Little do the kids know, their lack of character, inarticulately expressed, will follow them to their next job interview, which is really what this show is.
happywolf1980
February 16, 2005 - 07:19 PM
I loved Jay and Kara. They had the great drive and vision. They stuck to what they wanted and they didn't give up there style for anyone else. Its going to be between those two in the final.
I loved Austin and Alexandra too. But Alexandra was just to copied style for me. The bikini challenged show that. Austin was just like the judges said he was. He was very over the top but I loved it. He just didn't tone it down when he really needed too.
I can not say dislike. I can truly say that I hated Wendy. I was all for her in the beginning, but with the way she acted...She relied more on luck than her ability to design. I don't know how she could really be thinking acting like that when she is also raising a daughter. I'm suprised someone that is such a "down home" honest mother could do a 360 and backstab her roommates and friends like that. Yes its a competition but the judges are looking about your abiltiy to design a great outfit not lie on your competitors. She was a total disappointment and I hoping she does not win because she DOES NOT deserve it. I wipe my hands clean of her.
Morgasmo
February 16, 2005 - 07:24 PM
>>There's another saying, "if you can't stand the heat, get >>out of the kitchen."
I hate to say this but the much anticipated Wendy melt-down didn't materialize. She basically didn't waver from her usual positions and i think the designers actually got bored with it...Vanessa ended up being the easier target.
Speaking of emails, Wendy stated that a lot of the fans of the show wrote to her and were "upset" with her. I wonder how much hate mail she got before she put the filter/blocker dealie?
Chinchilla3
February 16, 2005 - 08:01 PM
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Adjusted? NO! Wendy STOLE her dress, all it was, was a simple dress with a freakin' cape! There was nothing special about it and Alex's bikini was regional. If you got to Miami and other countries that are close to beaches you see bikinis like that! She shouldn't have been eliminated on the basis that her fabric was similar to another designers. THAT'S CRAP!
Regional my frickin' behind. The gal said she used two other designers for her inspiration, and the designers aren't even dead or old for goodness sake. She was rightfully eliminated.
Wendy was SMART. Her job in that challenge was to make a dress for BR and she listened to what they said, used the colors they were using that season, intergrated the seasonal cape, and made a beautiful outfit. She made an outfit with clean lines which fit their asthetic. She deserved to win. Period.
luvinkpenz
February 16, 2005 - 08:02 PM
The one in the red see thru top and green skirt looked like a hooker somewhere in south america. ALthough I am sure Hookers have better taste than that.
luvinkpenz
February 16, 2005 - 08:08 PM
Well you just mangage to insult three-fourths of us here on the message board. Good Job for your first post!!!
luvinkpenz
February 16, 2005 - 08:12 PM
I have a new prespective of why Kara was upset with Wendy about using Orange for the Grammy Dress. If you watch the bonus video for Rob, he says Wendy switch to use orange. She had started with blue and silver. I thought it seemed her irratation was a bit out of poportion with the fact that they both decided to go with orange.
Alexander
February 16, 2005 - 08:15 PM
I think Wendy played her cards VERY WELL, and in any competition, she had Strategic motives to get where she wants, and for the rest to turn against her, Well they're being SORE LOSERS.
We'll have to wait until the 2 hour finale to see who wins.
fashionpassion
February 16, 2005 - 08:16 PM
Good post...I agree on almost every point (superior design ability, I don't know about all of them). Wendy held her own tonight, and she looked great. I think Kara Saun is becoming increasingly defensive (very preachy tonight and recently, not a pretty trait) and she got on my nerves tonight. And Jay was very much the mature voice of reason tonight...well spoken and IMHO very honest, saying much of what I would have wanted to say. I didn't like some of the things I saw from Wendy along the way either, but she was in this to win (which she was very honest about)...was not treated very nicely by almost everyone else (who wouldn't get their back up)...yet she won two of the biggest challenges (picked by interested judges). I think others are furious and jealous that their least favorite person won and is in the final three. They should be thanking their lucky stars for the exposure they DID get...there are many of us out here that would give alot to have been on the show even a week. This is all just my opinion.
Chinchilla3
February 16, 2005 - 08:18 PM
I really enjoyed the recap show that was on tonight. Even though they didn't say anything I didn't know or hadn't assumed already, it's always nice to hear some things straight from their mouths. Vanessa turned out to be alot angrier than I assumed she would be, though I'm not sure if she realized she was behaving as badly as she was. Also, she seems to be a rather blunt person, and that trait usually doesn't go well with bitterness. Hopefully everything turns out well for her; I checked out her site and even though alot of the stuff is similar and not quite my style, I think its all pretty attractive stuff.
Wendy looked really nice tonight, and she looks really nice in the preview for next week! She looks alot better with the little weight she lost gone and with her hair colored that nice shade of brown. Anyway, I'm glad she thoroughly explained her actions and I'm glad she stood by what she did; she left no questions unanswered.
As for the next episode: Kara really flips out! It kind of makes me wonder what happens for her to leave her passive aggressiveness/under the breath bitchiness behind and go straight up catty! I am also so excited to see the actual show and behind the scenes stuff: I've seen a clip from NY1, but theres nothing like seeing it all the way through. I originally jumped on the boat and thought Kara would win, but now...I'm gonna say Jay. Kara's stuff has kind of been seen before while Jay comes way out of right field with his beautiful collection. I love Wendy and loved her collection, and I honestly think she would do best at BR since she works well under direction (BR dress and Grammy Dress, original and altered) but I don't think she'll win. Anyway it goes, the last episode will be great!
Morgasmo
February 16, 2005 - 08:38 PM
Vanessa's biggest problem: She was wasted! Kudos to the production genius who decided on cocktails before the show. The wine spilling was hilarious.
I was half expecting that some tomatoes would be thrown when Wendy came out. LOL
Two mysteries revealed:
1) The "hot [expletive deleted]" was Tim. :-)
2) I swear Kevin was the mustache bandit. Did anybody see him grin when they showed the picture in the video clip? Then when Tim accused him he went into his shifty eyed, lip-biting, rodent thing. And the camera just stayed on him. yikes.
Chinchilla3
February 16, 2005 - 08:46 PM
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Vanessa's biggest problem: She was wasted! Kudos to the production genius who decided on cocktails before the show. The wine spilling was hilarious.
I was half expecting that some tomatoes would be thrown when Wendy came out. LOL
Two mysteries revealed:
1) The "hot [expletive deleted]" was Tim. :-)
2) I swear Kevin was the mustache bandit. Did anybody see him grin when they showed the picture in the video clip? Then when Tim accused him he went into his shifty eyed, lip-biting, rodent thing. And the camera just stayed on him. yikes.
LOL I noticed that!!! I am sure Kevin is the sweetest guy in the world, but he really seems kind of creepy sometimes. He reminds me of Professor Snape from Harry Potter.
luvinkpenz
February 16, 2005 - 08:48 PM
I have been wondering for over a week now where Wendys God-awful blue eyeshadow came from. She looked really good on the interview they have here on the website, But then you get this blue eyeshadow thing. That is my main problem with Wendy. I can take bitchy with talent. I really do not think she has it. She just doesn't get what looks good, she just gets lucky. Of 9 designs only 4 looked decent and say what you will, but the BR dress looked like a pattern you could buy at any fabric store. The bathing suit and the grammy dress look almost exactly alike. The only original thing was her wedding dress and Kara's was better.
strangedaze
February 16, 2005 - 09:43 PM
No surprises tonight. Austin was flamboyant. Jay was a hoot. Wendy was poised and articulate. Kara was a snob and Rob managed to come off as even more idiotic than they portrayed him on the show, if that's possible. Vanessa was surprisingly bitter; I think she did herself a disservice with her behavior.
Seas
February 16, 2005 - 09:52 PM
ok. this might have already been asked. but weeding through 300+ posts is a little much...but, i was wondering if anyone noticed Alexandra & Robert? does anyone know if they are together?
i think they are very cute, if they are. and what an amazing place to meet.
thanks.
lisakaz
February 16, 2005 - 09:52 PM
Yeah, she was wasted. I wonder if she opted to leave because she needed to be, well, "worshipping the porcelain god."
She did everything to justify your previously aired feelings about her. And Jay took her to talk over that "interview." If it was her ex-intern, she might have been too unguarded. Bitterness, bluntness and liquor aren't a good combo (note to self).
I was surprised that Tim was the one Mario was referencing. That was funny. But he's right. Tim is fine!
I don't think Kevin can be elminated as a suspect. I think he was oddly offguard that Tim or anyone would say that. But I swear Wendy had a smirk shortly after the accusation (by Vanessa) that she did it herself. Jay seemed mad about that suggestion (or maybe that it came from her) but we've been talking about it as a realistic possibility, too. It's isn't beyond the realm of possibility.
As I see it, there are a number of suspects:
A member of the production staff (either angry at Wendy for her demeanor in those interviews or for the dramatic value): unknown potential to be possible.
Kevin: legitimate suspect (I can't rule him out but I can't say I think he did it, either).
Wendy: legitimate suspect (same deal).
Morgan: legimate suspect (same for me, though in saying Kevin was alone, he almost seemed to say that Morgan would not have had the opportunity -- but I don't know. Could she have gotten in after her elimination?).
Any of the 4 designers in the USPS challenge: Rob, Austin, Kara, Jay (can't totally rule this out but I am doubtful, based on what I know of them, that any would do it -- Jay's indignance suggests no, Austin and Kara's class suggests no, Rob as one of the few who can still be kinda nice to Wendy suggests no).
If Bravo knew more based on their omnipresent cameras (as seen by the outtakes), they should have resolved this. Did Heidi know and want the guilty party to speak up? I'm not sure. I think the segment would not have ended with Austin saying it was stupid and not worth further discussion if Bravo had an answer. And no, I don't think that means he did it.
I just loved his outfit, even if Jay thought he was a doily. I've never been a fan of Jay's red pants or the hat anyway. In his own way, he's every bit as eccentric.
lk
Morgasmo
February 16, 2005 - 10:07 PM
lk, Did you watch the extended exit interview videos on the PR website?
1) Rob: Points out that Wendy started with a different color (blue and silver) for the Grammy dress and ended up copying Kara Saun. I guess the editors didn't want this nugget to be in the show. No wonder Kara Saun wants to beat Wendy up. Nonetheless, Kara should stop using the "you might need your soul one day" line on Wendy because a) it ain't that clever and
Wendy obviously doesn't have one!
2) Austin declaring that Kara Saun's designs are "70's" and "tacky". Interesting. His complaint was that he gets criticized for living in the past but his beef was that Kara does too, except that his reflects a more glamorous past.
On the Vanessa interview, Popgurls.com added a disclaimer at the bottom of their article:
"PopGurls.com stands by this interview. Contrary to what Ms. Riley said during the February 16, 2005, Project Runway Reunion Special, no one affiliated with PopGurls.com has ever been an employee of Vanessa Riley in any capacity."
Chinchilla3
February 16, 2005 - 10:07 PM
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I have been wondering for over a week now where Wendys God-awful blue eyeshadow came from. She looked really good on the interview they have here on the website, But then you get this blue eyeshadow thing. That is my main problem with Wendy. I can take bitchy with talent. I really do not think she has it. She just doesn't get what looks good, she just gets lucky. Of 9 designs only 4 looked decent and say what you will, but the BR dress looked like a pattern you could buy at any fabric store. The bathing suit and the grammy dress look almost exactly alike. The only original thing was her wedding dress and Kara's was better.
I so see what you're saying and I have kind of finally accepted that Wendy's style and way of designing isn't in everyones favor, but I think alot of the stuff she does is great. Of all the outfits she did on the show, I think the only one I didn't care for was her 2055 one, and even that one I kind of liked. As for the dresses on her website, I don't like some of them, but some of them are great (in my opinion of course). As for her Fashion Week outfits, she deviates drastically from her usual formal event gowns and I loved the vast majority of them. She is extremely versatile and went from her usual evening gowns, to the different types of stuff she designed on the show, to the stuff she designer for fashion week. Pretty good for someone with a degree in Anthropology.
She utilizes two things I look for in fashion and art which are color and flow: there doesn't have to be a set structure or symmetry. Her colors are always great: subdued but alive and ever present. She also puts colors together and uses them the way others don't which is also a plus in my book. Also, I know this doesn't have much to do with this topic, but I disagreed with the judges when they said her Grammy outfit was too matchy and that her shoes were too matched to the outfit. I mean, what the heck! Your outfit, especially formal outfits, are suppose to match and though most people can't wear all orange, Nancy pulled it off and looked great. Back to the subject: I don't know, I just like Wendy's style and I think she's very talented. Keep in mind, this is just my opinion and I am aware most people disagree with me.
Also, I kind of wanted to address the whole "anyone could make that design" and all the stuff about the common patterns. Everything has been done before. I don't think I saw one outfit on this show that didn't remind me of something I hadn't seen previously. Also, people get on Wendy's case for designing her clothing similarly. That's her asthetic, which is what designers are suppose to have! No one ever brings up how almost all Kara's designs have those huge plunging necklines or how everything Jay does is punk rockish. That's their style. I think it's important not to criticize one person from something and ignore the rest.
pcn88
February 16, 2005 - 10:12 PM
I was never a huge fan of Wendy, but I thought the other designers gave her kind of a raw deal on the recap episode. She might not be the MOST talented designer, but there were some people on the show criticizing her who had no place doing so! I'm sorry, but if you get eliminated for making all of your clothes in 20 minutes, you should not be chastising a final 3 contender about her lack of design skills.
Wendy made a good case for herself this episode. I really appreciated her honesty about her strategic motives, especially when everyone else started lecturing her as though they were such ethical, high-minded artistes. She had a great line about strategy being effective only to a certain point and everything coming down to the judges. Does anyone remember it? That remark really made me respect Wendy.
GypsyMoongal
February 16, 2005 - 10:15 PM
Well-- saw the re-cap....
I must admit that I was sorry to see that Vanessa was still bitter and upset. Although... I suppose that if I had to pay my own way to the reunion show; I might be upset too... especially after hoping that my business would have picked up because of the show; and it hadn't.
I think that most all the designers had a "good showing" tonight....and hopefully it will benefit them.
As for Wendy; I suppose I should be surprised that she had no remorse for any of her actions... and actually felt that everything she did was somehow justified in the "name of the game"... but I'm not.
I am surprised that the other designers didn't attack her more than they did.
And as far as the "mustaching" of the photo goes.. I still wouldn't be surprised if Morgan did it; or maybe Wendy herself.....
lafcadio
February 16, 2005 - 10:17 PM
Wendy is the obvious villain but personally I find Austin hard to swallow too. He comes across as an arrogant prig, i.e. "I was born to be a star" or something like that. Granted some of his designs are beautiful (episode 1) but when it comes to wearability? Forget it. He just doesn't get it. He lives in his little world where Austin Scarlett is the fashion god who will bring his sense of beauty to the little people. Sorry, but fashion is not fine art. Van Gogh can work in an attic and not care a fig about what the masses think about his paintings but a fashion designer must work with the public. Ergo, the difference between an artist and a designer. Even his couture "vision" doesn't strike me as anything new or different. It's been done over and over again. So Scarlett, get over yourself and start listening to the little people.
ericats
February 16, 2005 - 10:44 PM
Well, I never thought I would say this but I think that the editing on the show made Wendy look better than she really is. There is something that is just not right with that woman. I know that she has some fans on this board but I just don't understand how someone can find her behavior to be honorable.
Kevin: hm, we all saw him alone in the workroom but the reason that we saw him "alone" is because the film crew was in there with him. Does anybody really think that if he drew on the picture it wouldn't have been filmed? And even if for some strange reason it hadn't there were witnesses in the room.
Tim is one hot [expletive deleted]!
I would have liked to have seen more outtakes. They were really fun! I could have done without the group therapy session because it seemed a bit forced.
Looks like the fur flies next week!
lisakaz
February 16, 2005 - 10:47 PM
You weren't paying attention to FW, then. For a number of "top" designers, fashion IS wearable art. On the style channel, a roundup of FW emphasized this and the crossover of fashion and music, among other things. There seemed to be a theatricality to the shows, too, in that at least one designer admitted that what goes on the runway may be made ONLY for the runway, rather than anything for sale. So, Austin wouldn't be making that up. A lot of haute couture looks like it might be questionably wearabe. I remember one red carpet review show where one actress seemed overwhelmed by her dress. There was disagreement. Joan Rivers was very supportive, saying it was a haute couture gown and not everyone can wear it but asserting this actress wasn't overpowered by it. So wearability isn't necessarily a key criticsm in such a show. This should explain to you why Wendy had almost universally negative reviews. Nothing was special or different. This is why Jay created a sensation. Not having seen the shows up close I am not sure, but based on the press reviews, Jay will win.
lk
lisakaz
February 16, 2005 - 10:51 PM
Interesting. Hard to say but it's possible. I sure can't think of any incident that merited Wendy's belief that the other contestants were just as manipulative as her but not truthful about it. If that were so, NAME NAMES. Who? When? Considering the response to this, I highly doubt it.
lk
snoops
February 16, 2005 - 11:01 PM
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I think that putdown line is a riot. Of course, some young people might not get the grassy knoll reference. That photoshop thing is interesting.
And I think Nancy woulda looked better, too.
lk
Thanks, lk! you guys get the grassy knoll, right? Lee Harvey O and all that jazz?
sera_tonin
February 16, 2005 - 11:04 PM
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Also, people get on Wendy's case for designing her clothing similarly. That's her asthetic, which is what designers are suppose to have! No one ever brings up how almost all Kara's designs have those huge plunging necklines or how everything Jay does is punk rockish. That's their style. I think it's important not to criticize one person from something and ignore the rest.
Actually quite a few people have mentioned Kara's similar necklines and lots of people describe Jay's style as "punk rockish." The tops of Wendy's dresses are almost always gathered at the bust--and I can assure you that gathering is the simplest way to add shaping in a bodice (take a rectangular piece of fabric and pinch it in the center--instant Wendy Pepper!). Personally, I would not consider gathered material around the bust to be Wendy's "aesthetic," instead I believe it shows her inability to draft or drape a different bodice--which makes her seem to be a very poor designer.
As for "flow" (or "flou" if you're thinking of YSL) did anyone but me notice how awkward the drape was on the bright pink dress in Wendy's NYC show. Was that supposed to be a train sticking out from the side? Reminded me of a bird with a broken wing.
sonickitty
February 16, 2005 - 11:16 PM
I agree with some of the Wendy criticism. Yes, she does come off unpleasant at times; But you can't blame her for answering direct questions on the runway with direct answers. I thought she was polite about her answers - it's not like she totally lied or was hateful in her response. (her comments about Kevin & Austin)
But I really have lost some respect for Kara because her despise of Wendy is to me starting to look more ugly than the behaviors of Wendy. She seems to have a big chip on her shoulder when it comes to Wendy. And I have loved Jay all along; he is soooo funny!!!! But he did bug me on tonights recap episode. I think both Kara and Jay are just way too self righteous... Some of the comments made to Wendy on the show tonight smack to me of ageism. I can understand how she wouldn't bond as much with the younger artists; they were pretty outrageous (i.e. late night drinking footage). I certainly don't blame them - they were just letting off steam and having fun; but a 40+ person may just simply find it irritating to live with. I think the others were just as mean to her as they accuse her of being ugly.
Design wise, I think Kara should win. Personality wise, Jay. Teaching some prima donnas a good lesson wise, Wendy.
That's all I have to say!
snoops
February 16, 2005 - 11:17 PM
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Good post...I agree on almost every point (superior design ability, I don't know about all of them). Wendy held her own tonight, and she looked great. I think Kara Saun is becoming increasingly defensive (very preachy tonight and recently, not a pretty trait) and she got on my nerves tonight. And Jay was very much the mature voice of reason tonight...well spoken and IMHO very honest, saying much of what I would have wanted to say. I didn't like some of the things I saw from Wendy along the way either, but she was in this to win (which she was very honest about)...was not treated very nicely by almost everyone else (who wouldn't get their back up)...yet she won two of the biggest challenges (picked by interested judges). I think others are furious and jealous that their least favorite person won and is in the final three. They should be thanking their lucky stars for the exposure they DID get...there are many of us out here that would give alot to have been on the show even a week. This is all just my opinion.
But don't you think that Wendy also alienated these people? Just because they're competitors, doesn't mean they can't be your friends, you know? You may need their help one day. It's good that Mario, who was eliminated in Round 2 even asked the question, because this last episode tonight was edited horribly.
Did anyone else think Heidi was supercilious?
snoops
February 16, 2005 - 11:20 PM
Wendy may have been articluate, but not poised. She is still delusional.
Mandi323
February 16, 2005 - 11:22 PM
i just dont understand her motives in life. Yeah i do feel bad for the picture of her daughters face that was messed up. But if i was one of the designers as we see Kara next week tell Wendy how it is. I probably would have done it the first time i would see her. She's just stuck up and i am not going to deny that she doesn't have talent, but i don't think that she deserves to be in the top three. It should be Kara, Jay, and Austin. I think they have what it takes to win this competition. Wendy? i would be really shocked if she came and won.
snoops
February 16, 2005 - 11:28 PM
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Teaching some prima donnas a good lesson wise, Wendy.
Hmmm. That's funny. The reunion show I watched was the Wendy show, and she was the prima donna.
birdaileen
February 17, 2005 - 12:27 AM
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LOL I noticed that!!! I am sure Kevin is the sweetest guy in the world, but he really seems kind of creepy sometimes. He reminds me of Professor Snape from Harry Potter.
haha, he is SO professor snape! he creeps me out.
birdaileen
February 17, 2005 - 12:28 AM
YAY THEY USED MY QUESTION!!!! (the one about what makes a good model).
ftrlwyr
February 17, 2005 - 12:28 AM
A coupla interesting things about the show tonight, I think the designers had a right to attack Wendy. The other designers were most affected by Wendy's bad behavior...if they want to hold her accountable for not acting like a grown up, why shouldn't they ask her those questions or let her know they hate her?
As for a Kara being a prima donna, I would be frustrated too. Has EVERYONE on this board forgotten that Wendy Pepper was at the BOTTOM of the judges' list for all but TWO of the challenges. She won the "final" challenge b/c of Nancy O'Dell's taste (?) Kara & Jay were always at the TOP of the judges' scorecard. Kara won four challenges. So why shouldn't Kara be upset, she and Jay got there on pure TALENT. Wendy is there b/c the producers wanted to add DRAMA to the show!
Heidi tried to assert that fact: "Wendy won the last challenge." But we all know that the producers had input in the final judgments! That disclaimer is at the end of each episode. Heidi must have forgotten that some people actually do read the end credits. Wendy is and remained on the show b/c she knows how to piss people off and create drama. Drama = ratings. The producers made sure even though she was at the bottom (almost eliminated) for each challenge she was going to be there for the end game.
And it is VERY interesting that they accused Kevin but no one busted out a tape. These people were videotaped practically 24/7 and no one caught the person on tape? That's just stupid.
birdaileen
February 17, 2005 - 12:31 AM
im so glad jay called vanessa on that interview. i remember reading it way back when it was first posted and wondering why no one commented on how bitter she seemed. im glad it was brought to light-- she is a sore loser.
and just to clarify-- i think that bravo didnt pay her way to the FW show, but they did to the reunion show.
lisakaz
February 17, 2005 - 12:39 AM
Yeah, but I was born before 1970 and I am a historian besides.
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rnrpeg
February 17, 2005 - 12:40 AM
What eccactly is "excentric"?? tee
Hey I can't believe I'm responding online to a TV show, but here goes...
I AM NOT a designer, nor am I particularly fashionable. I'm not a big fan of television either--eSpecially "reality tv". That said--this show has been fabulous. can't believe I'm "hooked"!
As far as "people" -- professional and otherwise -- I say LAY THE [censored] OFF WENDY!! I don't see why everyone is coming down on her so harshly. (Of course, there is way more going on than we are privy to! If the intent of the show-designers was to portray things on a more even ground, then just bravo to the producers for making it more watchable!) But I TOTALLY call Wendy as more humane than Kara Saunders. I think Kara comes across a total beyotch -- a hypocritical one at that.
And HOW'S COME I saw her on IFC the other day?? She's a RINGER??? Already in the biz as a pro? Huh?
As for the Kevin-bashing, the show portrays Wendy's assessment as correct. Wendy's expla of her criticism of Lipstick Boy (solly--name escapes) was fair enough tonight.
But I'd have to bet that her choice was based more on his BAAAAAD design idea for that Hudson kid. It was NOT anything in the vicinity of R&R. (R&R IS what I know.) Of course, the Hudson daughter is about as R&R as her father ever was, as well. Bo-Peep/Rock??? WHOOOPS! FOUL!
As a designer--who cares?? R&R is not anything most designers will EVER get or care to get. And that's the way it should be! (I'll quote Uncle Ted Nugent in case anyone reading DOES get R&R..."I LIKE Madonna! It keeps people like that AWAY from my shows!" Nuff said.)
And being a lover of R&R, I declare Jay the coolest dude on TV besides Ozzy!
And too bad Hot Boy isn't into sadism or masochism. YUM! If you'd like to learn...my addy is posted. LOL
There's always room for dumb pretty boys.
And the English [expletive deleted] is cool. She's one date past "bitter"--but ain't a lot of us...
The "however many kids you have" comment though, was way too wine-induced. (like this post--you made me get drunk on red wine myself and here I am rambling on...)
She probably realized this herself, hence, left the taping before she said anything else fugly. None of us WANT to be bitter, we just end up that way sometimes. LOL
GOOD NIGHT!