ThomsTeddyBear
February 17, 2005 - 07:33 AM
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Wendy is the obvious villain but personally I find Austin hard to swallow too. He comes across as an arrogant prig, i.e. "I was born to be a star" or something like that. Granted some of his designs are beautiful (episode 1) but when it comes to wearability? Forget it. He just doesn't get it. He lives in his little world where Austin Scarlett is the fashion god who will bring his sense of beauty to the little people. Sorry, but fashion is not fine art. Van Gogh can work in an attic and not care a fig about what the masses think about his paintings but a fashion designer must work with the public. Ergo, the difference between an artist and a designer. Even his couture "vision" doesn't strike me as anything new or different. It's been done over and over again. So Scarlett, get over yourself and start listening to the little people.
Tell it to the action board. Even his corn husk dress, something that will crumble in a minute because it's dried, sold for 80 bucks in an auction where "little people" bid.
RGRRGR
February 17, 2005 - 07:33 AM
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I agree. Bloody good riddance to Vanessa! She can dish out the dirt, but doesn't have the courage to take it! She freely took this fantastic opportunity to shine and literally [censored] on it. No one wants to deal with someone who has the gall to "bite the hand that feeds them and then spit in their face!" She should take those "sour grapes" back with her to Texass (Bush country) and clothe those "Hillbillies" in the tasteless rags they're accustomed to wearing!
I'm sorry, are you dealing with some unvented hostility? Maybe you should take some of your own advice and gain the courage to seek a good therapist. As for the Texas Hillbillies, maybe you should do some research into things before you speak. Just because Texas did not geographically fall into what must be the Nirvana of the North, according to you, we are just as wordly, by gosh we even have these things called planes and automobiles that zip us all over this big ol land. Maybe one day you should gather together a little money and explore it for yourself and you will see that there is a world outside the one created in your small brain.
PRaddict
February 17, 2005 - 07:35 AM
How childish.
I know there are a lot of people on this board who can and do design and produce clothing but I have a feeling for many people here, just pulling a nice outfit out of their closet is an ordeal.
I'm so sick of hearing that Wendy is talent-less or 'not a designer'. She is a designer and she does have talent. You may not like her style, there may be people who can put a garment together faster and/or better than she does but there are probably many more that can't. How many of you could pull off something in a few hours or just 2 days? I'm sure there are a few of you but I know I can barely sew on a button.
I loved her Fashion Week collection. I don't think it was the most hip, the most outrageous or the most anything. But it certainly compared well to many of the other collections I looked at, even those of experienced designers. Not everyone wants the cutting edge of fashion. She's the only one I would trust to design a garment for me.
The other designers giving Wendy their opinion of her talent,as if it was absolute truth, totally lacked class. Taste is subjective and it takes a lot of balls to come out and completely dismiss a person's 'talent'. We don't really need a world full of Simon Cowells.
girlinagogo
February 17, 2005 - 07:38 AM
Ok. First off. I'm so over the Wendy bashing and it's hard to read these boards when the majority of posts are about her. I did love how Tim said that people on this site are very interested in her. Is "interested" just a polite way of saying loathe? despise? Anyway, I agree she's a terrible designer, but I don't think she's the devil that so many think she is. I actually understood her reason for calling out Austin on the roack star challenge and regarding Kevin, Anne Slowey specifically asked Wendy what she thought of Kevin as a leader. And Wendy answered her. Do I think she's one of the top 3 designers? No. But, as Heidi pointed out, Wendy won that last challenge fair and square. No matter how stupid and tasteless Nancy O'Dell is, Wendy still won. Those are the rules of the game, folks. Finally, I thought Wendy was very composed last night considering the attacks she was subjected to. I don't know if I could have been as lady like.
So why don't we start discussing the appalling Vanessa Riley whose behavior was so vile, if she hadn't have walked out, I would have thrown something through my television. She is a complete bafoon. Also, I'm a little over Kara Saun's holier than thou attitude. We get it Kara, you're a great designer. You have such integrity. You're such a good person. You have a soul. Ugh...
Who would have thought Jay, Austin, and Nora would have come across as the most normal ones in the whole bunch?
And finally, AMEN to Mario. Tim Gunn is a HOT [expletive deleted]. Is he single? I can't believe I just asked that. How rude. So, is he???
ThomsTeddyBear
February 17, 2005 - 07:48 AM
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LOL I noticed that!!! I am sure Kevin is the sweetest guy in the world, but he really seems kind of creepy sometimes. He reminds me of Professor Snape from Harry Potter.
haha, he is SO professor snape! he creeps me out.
*hides pictures of Professor Snape with kiss marks all over it behind back*
Huh? What pictures? I have no idea what you're talking about.
*bats eyelashes innocently*
ThomsTeddyBear
February 17, 2005 - 08:04 AM
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I think that Wendy is NOT mean. I mean, come on...it's a competition. Get real! Why is it that men can be serious- and that's okay, but when women take 'life' seriously, they are b*tches? I mean, other designers on the show talk about Wendy- calling her names, making fun of her-and yet NO one talks about how "unfair" that is...but Wendy is asked a question on HER opinion of something, and she gives it- and she's a horrible person?? I think not. At least you don't see her attacking other people.
Not only did you just get here, you haven't even been watching the show.
Design_Goddess
February 17, 2005 - 08:53 AM
OK; I'm a huge fan of "Project Runway" me being in the fashion industry & all. So last week I missed the elimination of Austin Scarlet because of painting my house, but I caught the re-run last night at 8; WTF????????? WENDY PEPPER????? EeeeeeewwwWWWW... I'm with Jay on the show "I hate Wendy"... she's SUCH a RAG! NOT fashion designer material by ANY means. She doesn't "play well with the other children" so what makes her think that she can actually run her own fashion label? I've got news for you Wendy dear; NO ONE in this industry would want to work with your nasty-ass self.... I've seen many prima-donnas in this industry & I'll tell you right now: if you DO win, you WON'T last in this cut-throat business because of your smug, nasty attitude. Stepping on or over other people does not a good business woman make. Would Donald Trump have put up with her cruel ways? NO. Then I watched the new episode last night where they were all talking about the course events that led them up to the final 3. And seems like most of them feel the same way towards Wendy... disgust & loathing. GOOD.
So to end my rant, pray with me that Kara Saun or Jay McCarrol wins Project Runway... I LOVE Jay, he's hysterical & very talented (I love his designs!), but I'm not convinced that he's capable of being serious enough to run his own company because of his child-like antics. Then again he DOES own a store, so maybe he'll surprise us... Kara is also very talented, very calm & in control of her actions & is mature enough to handle her own line. So if either of them wins, I'd be very happy.... but if Wendy wins........ all hell's gonna break loose...........
WHEW! Thank you for reading & allowing me to let off some steam... ;-)
lynno
February 17, 2005 - 09:01 AM
The only person on this show that isn't a big drama queen baby is Wendy. The rest all act like 22 year old spoiled children who live off of Mommy and Daddy's dollar while they talk about being designers and whine to their friends about how unfair life is to them. COME ON!!! They all had a strategy, they all wanted to be in the top three, give me a break. They were faced with honesty through Wendy and didn't know what to do with it because they have never been honest with themselves. DEAL!!!
DINY
February 17, 2005 - 09:02 AM
I am really put off by Wendy- she's a obnoxious fuddy-duddy. But then i'm thinking- when have i met many NICE people in the fashion industry?? It's rare especially between designers. They're all back-stabbing divas. So Wendy's behavior isn't that hard to swallow given where she's at.
I don't think her 'talent' should have gotten her this far and she should be grateful it did.
My vote is for JAY
CHICKSINGA
February 17, 2005 - 09:07 AM
If Wendy has no talent as a designer then what does that say about Tim, The judges, the client judges and the show as a whole? Just because she said what she felt was true she is called divisive and evil. Kevin WAS a bad leader. Austin WAS a bit of a push-over. Kara Saun DOESN’T own the color orange. Wendy was the only designer there who came off with grace and aplomb. The rest looked like a disappointed bunch of children left out of the pep rally! Even Jay, who I at first that was the most talented, is looking like a foulmouthed court jester. The funny thing is a big population of the posters on this site are acting the same way. Crossing their arms and pouting cause their favorite isn’t winning and fighting back with “But Wendy’s not a designer!” PUHLEASE!
She’s creative, attentive and resourceful as well as whip-smart! Dowdy!? Excuse me, but do any of you read Vogue? A couple months ago there was an article about the HOT trend of granny chic and PRADA! Wendy GETS IT!!!
And if Kara Saun hasn’t made it big by now after all these years of being in the trenches don’t you see why? She’s a copycat, a good one.
All I can say is that next Wednesday I will be part of the PEPPER RALLY! Cause I’m a PEPPER, he’s a PEPPER, she’s a PEPPER – wouldn’t you like to be one too?!
Remedy78
February 17, 2005 - 09:08 AM
Betsy Johnson makes me cringe.
She is not constructive at all, and I am exhausted in trying to discern why someone like her who thumbs their nose at basic principles of art and design, contiunes to be revered by the same community.
She told Austin that his 2055 design was
"Extremely wearable, but something she would never wear."
What does that mean?
She should stop putting twizzlers in her hair and work for the Republican Party with such inane, meaningless, double talk. She is not a designer; she is just wierd. Her clothes push only the boundaries of ridiculousness, and I am tired of her being so shock and awe worthy.
I am literally enraged that Austin is out, and rather angry at myself for getting so wound up in this bloody show. These judges and Bravo should be adhered mid-air, to a wall of velcro, and pelted with Wendy Pepper's obdurate creations until I finally get my wish and see that talentless viper slither back to her mustached daughter. I loathe Vanessa as well but you know she was right when she accused Wendy of drawing it herself.
I can't wait for season 2!
Morgasmo
February 17, 2005 - 09:12 AM
"They're all back-stabbing divas. "
Perfectly put. Has anybody seen that awful "Pret-a-Porter" movie from Robert Altman? That's always been my idea of the fashion industry. If they can't handle an emotional marginally-talented Virgina mom, how are they gonna handle the REAL beeyotches?
"My vote is for JAY"
Two reasons why I think Jay is the man and he should win:
1) Judging from his collection pics, he knocked it out of the park. His collection was totally different from what he did in Project Runway but still is very much Jay Mccaroll. Kara Saun's stuff was pretty but a bit tired (low-cut in the front, low-cut in the back. Pretty much what she did for PR)
2) Jay is more of a new face. Wendy has already been in the industry for a considerable amount of time. Jay is truly an up-and-comer.
As for Wendy, you said it best. Her reward is hustling her way into the top 3 but she has no chance in hell of winning. Zero. Zilch. Nada.
katgirl
February 17, 2005 - 09:15 AM
Do you not realize what is happening?! All you Kara Saun Austin and Jay lovers but Wendy haters! The producers really know what they are doing! They set us all up! Look at the footage they are showing of Kara Saun - it is to draw hate, same as with Wendy ALTHOUGH you gotta remember the whole dayum cast hates Wendy nobody in the cast is showing Kara Saun hate perhaps there is more to her "preachy" behavior than the scenes we've been privy too. With Rob's footage and a couple of other hints it looks like Kara probably should have knocked Wendy on her ahs but due to her high standards of conduct she settled for words instead of blows! Whatever happened behind the scenes clearly caused Kara's professional facade to give way to some personal feelings. I predict that Wendy will win the challenge - we are being prepared for it and the tide has been turned against Kara and possibly Jay so that the viewing audience would continue to watch Project Dumbway 2 - The Survivor Designers.
angeedee
February 17, 2005 - 09:32 AM
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Two mysteries revealed:
1) The "hot [expletive deleted]" was Tim. :-)
I NEVER saw that coming but you know what, Tim was kinda hot!
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2) I swear Kevin was the mustache bandit. Did anybody see him grin when they showed the picture in the video clip? Then when Tim accused him he went into his shifty eyed, lip-biting, rodent thing. And the camera just stayed on him. yikes.
Hey hey hey! No he didn't, he was just nervous trying to defend himself as witnessed in the Wendy-eliminates-Kevin episode that's all. Plus, the camera was still in the room even though they said he was alone because it films them until they're gone to try to catch reactions. If he did it, they would have showed it and said, "We have you on camera".
I have to say something about this.
While my theory all along was that it was that psycho morgan, after watching last night I wonder if it was austin.
didn't he look a little uncomfortable hwen he was saying it wasn't worth discussing?
he kept looking down and he had this little chesire cat grin on his face while they were talking about it.
????????????
I agree that Austin seems like a good guy (witness his modeling for jay) but i can see how he would have thought that wendy needed to be knocked down a few notches.
and, although I agree it wasn't a nice thing to do, i don't think it was a horrible, horrible horrible thing as everyoen was saying last night. i mean, big deal.
I just got a really interesting vibe from austin about that last night...................
sarahcatherine
February 17, 2005 - 09:37 AM
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The only person on this show that isn't a big drama queen baby is Wendy. The rest all act like 22 year old spoiled children who live off of Mommy and Daddy's dollar while they talk about being designers and whine to their friends about how unfair life is to them. COME ON!!! They all had a strategy, they all wanted to be in the top three, give me a break. They were faced with honesty through Wendy and didn't know what to do with it because they have never been honest with themselves. DEAL!!!
Sure they all had a strategy...to do their best, design well, construct well, to present well on the runway. Wendy's strategy? To get close to people so she could use whatever information she learned about them to her advantage later, to exploit her role as "mother" to her advantage, to do all sort of things that involved interactions with the other designers when she herself now says that has nothing to do with what helped her win out on the runway...so why did she do it??
Wendy was backpedalling last night, talking about how she didn't go there to hang out with other people, she went to win and that nothing that happened off the runway mattered anyway. If it didn't matter anyway, then why did she stick to such a stupid strategy? And why won't she own up to having that strategy now when she clearly said that was what she was up to? I think you're the one not dealing with what actually happened.
The only one I saw whinning was Vanessa, who did come across as a big drama queen baby. Austin did a bit, but I certainly didn't hear him whine about how life is unfair. I think they were all just pissed that Wendy wouldn't own up to her own deviousness, her own actions.
On a side note, while we're discussing Wendy's strategy...anyone else think that the blue eyeshadow, bad dye job, thick glasses and blechy clothing was more strategy? To invoke pity and make her appear as a weak contendor, so that the other designers, not thinking of her as a real challenge, would be more inclined to confide in her about themselves and their designs?
gotnails
February 17, 2005 - 09:46 AM
anybody know if kevin has done any interviews lately? i don't live in ny anymore
luvinkpenz
February 17, 2005 - 10:15 AM
Probably. Vanessa gave Heidi a virtual B*tch slap in that article.
April
February 17, 2005 - 10:18 AM
I will wait until next week to see the collections and decide for myself who should win. But I have to agree with everyone who says Wendy shouldn't be in the final three. Here's why I think she shouldn't be.
1) During the first challenge, she did nothing at all that was creative. I could have taken candy myself and put it all over the model. That's not at all creative. The judges even said that there was barely any clothing there on the model. If anyone deserved to win that one, it was Nora with the lawn chair creation. Now that showed some creativity.
2) During the second challenge, Wendy's dress was incomplete. The judges even said so. Again, her dress didn't show any sense of creativity. Who in the world would "envy" that look? Not me!!
3) During the challenge in which they had to create a swimsuit, again her outfit was incomplete. She was missing the piece underneath because she said that the one she made fell apart.
4) During the postal challenge, she did nothing to change the uniform. Adding a pocket here, and a pleat there is not enough of a change. Again, her design lacked creativity and vision. Maybe she didn't feel that the uniform needed changing. But isn't that exactly what the workers were asking for? Yes!! At least Robert took a chance even though he lost. He at least did something different, even if nobody liked it. Let's be honest, who would have actually worn what Wendy "created?" It was the same thing they wear now.
5) On this last challenge, her creation again lacked some creativity. Sure, she was chosen by Nancy. But that still doesn't mean that her outfit was good. I've seen that same look many times when I've looked at Vogue, InStyle, and other magazines. There was nothing original about that look.
But the fact is that she's in the final three. The way they're building this finale up, I wouldn't doubt if they choose Wendy. It's almost completely obvious that this is what's happening.
Yes, I think that Wendy's "dowdy" look was another strategy. If you recall during the challenge in which she won with the black dress, she used her look to her advantage. She complained to Kara Saun about what the judges said to her in the prior challenge. After complaining and complaining, Kara Saun helped Wendy "improve" her look by fixing her hair a little and putting some makeup on her.
signladybc
February 17, 2005 - 10:22 AM
Okay, before I read the 100 some odd posts from last night's show I'm gonna make my comments. First, I admit I haven't seen the whole episode--my VCR chose last night to rebel! That said here's what I think of what I saw.
First and foremost--surely you all must realize now just how manipulated we (the audience) have been. Wendy (love her or hate her) with her Cruella hair, blue eye shadow, no lipstick, horn rimmed glasses--shows up as *a fashion plate* make up, dye job, contacts. She is actually attractive! Duh--she was designed by the producers (and maybe she had input herself) to be the villian for the show! This manipulation alone has brought me back to the realization of why I don't watch 'reality' TV except for QE where people are involved in caring! Remember Blow Out? The other Bravo 'reality' show I foolishly watched? Brandon, Jonathan, the ditzy woman stylist? Come on folks, we've been had once again by the TV execs!
Second, I didn't see all of Vanessa's tantrum but am guessing, because the wine was spilled on the floor near where she was sitting, that she went off in a huff. Too bad, so sad.
Third, Austin used Runway for his advancement as much as anyone else and he is probably the big winner in the real world. His designs have a wonderful place in theater and movies--two areas of fantasy that we all need in our lives.
Kara Saun is an amazing designer (altho' I couldn't wear any of her designs myself), she has 10 years in the business and she will probably win the overall prize and she should.
Jay's designs don't float my boat aesthetically and I certainly couldn't wear them, BUT he too is a good designer for his 'nitch'--young and hip.
I wish I'd seen the models (did they come on?). Did see a brief part of the model outtakes. Morgan seriously needs to be on (or off) her medication.
Hope to see the whole thing this weekend as well as the first three episodes before I got hooked.
Cheers,
SignLadyB _,,/
aguynamedWayne
February 17, 2005 - 10:25 AM
Though I would vocalize it slightly differently, I have to agree with at least the tenents of Katgirl's post (Project Drunkway! Are You Guys Dumb), I've said much the same myself (maybe a slightly nicer version though) I don't think that it is so much the we (the viewing audience)are dumb, rather, it is about the fact that we like being entertained. And Project Runway has been entertaining!! But the entertainment high does wear down a bit when one realizes that you've been sold on an idea that this was about a fair competition of talent, but find that in the end, it was just another show driven by a desire to get high ratings (high ratings lead to more advertising dollars for the show and BRAVO in general). My advice (for what it's worth), would be to remember that you are being entertained, not watching a competition. The designer who wins is not necessarily "The Best" designer. But, who really cares? Does it matter if we disagree with the final decision. I don't think it does. These designers, win or loose, have been given a format, perhaps not a completely fair format, but one that allows them to present themselves to the mass media and mass audiences in a way that even some old veterans in the fashion industry cannot achieve in todays commercial markets. The designers that have the intelligence and ability to make something of thier new found public exposure and establish a marketable fahion line will do so, the ones who do not possess those skills will fade (as have many trully "talented" designers from times past have done). They have all been given a boost, what is made from that boost is up to them. So enjoy the shows, and enjoy the fashion, but stop worrying about how your personnal favorite has fared in the competion, and wait to see what they will make of the gift of media attention they have been given.
(and if anyone is wondering, Personally, I think Austin Scarlet will prove in the end, to make the most from all of this Project Runway Press. He may not have "won", but he has shown an incredible talent, is already a media darling, and has the intelligence and self-effacing comic character that goes over big in the real world of personality driven fashion. He knows have to show pride in his own ability, without degrading the ability of others. Believe it or not, even in the cut-throat world of fashion, a little niceness, goes a long way. Best of luck Austin, I caught Scarlet fevor from the beginning. I hope we all get to see more of you in the future).
d7771
February 17, 2005 - 10:31 AM
Anyway, I'm watching the reunion and everyone is dumping on Wendy. I don't get it, not at all. Just because the rest of the group is emotionally based and Wendy is more analytical doesn't mean she doesn't have a soul! God! It seems like she has more soul than most of them. I mean, she was comforting Morgan when she was late, she was really upset about the rift that formed between her and Austin, she went to tears when someone defaced her picture.
YES - FINALLY SOMEONE WHO HAS A CLUE ON THESE BOARDS AND IS JUST NOT JEALOUS AND VINDICTIVE THAT THEIR PRECIOUS FAVORITE DESIGNER DID NOT ADVANCE. YOU SEE THINGS CORRECTLY, OBJECTIVELY AND WITH INTELLIGENCE. KARA SAUN AND JAY, FOR EXAMPLE, ARE REALLY SHOWING POOR, VULGAR AND DISGUSTING BEHAVIOR IN THEIR ATTACKS OF WENDY. KARA AND JAY NEED TO GIVE IT A REST - AND WENDY, I AM SURE, THINGS BOTH OF THEM ARE FILTH, DIRT AND TRASH. LOOK AT WHO IS CRITICZING HER -- A TIRED, DATED DESIGNER WHO AFTER 10 YEARS IS GOING NOWHERE IN THE INDUSTRY -- A FAT, TIRED DESIGNER FROM THE HILLS OF PENNSYLVANIA WHO DESIGNS BIZARRE PUNK CLOTHES THAT ARE DYSFUNCTIONAL (EVEN MICHAEL KORS SAID HIS TOP WAS DYSFUNCTIONAL AND THAT BATHING SUIT? IT WAS A TAKE OFF ON A BONDAGE OUTFIT - THE WEDDING DRESS WAS SO DYSFUNCTIONAL THE MODEL COULDN'T EVEN WALK FOR GOD SAKES!)
If my life depended on anyone in that show I would bet on Wendy. The others think they're so tough? Lets see them raise a kid and then come back into the fashion world.
THOSE DESIGNERS ARE TOO SELF-CENTERED TO EVEN CONSIDER THE BALANCE OF A BUSINESS, A HUSBAND AND A CHILD -- ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS THEIR RATTY, DATED, PSYCHO VISIONS OF GRANDEUR THAT WILL NEVER COME TO PASS BECAUSE THEY ARE LOSERS. I WOULD SUSPECT THAT AFTER THIS SHOW DIES YOU'LL SEE JAY WORKING IN A TRUCK STOP, KARA WAITRESSING, ETC. WENDY WILL BE COMFORTABLE, CHIC AND CONFIDENT WITH HER DESIGNS AND HER CLIENT BASE WILL EXPAND.
As for KS's sickening attacks on her as being manipulative and sabotaging, that's a lot of crap.
VERY, VERY WELL PUT!
If Kevin had been a good leader and Wendy had said otherwise, the judges wouldn't have cared. They would've dumped Kevin anyway. What the designers say often has no real effect on what the judges think. At that point they already have their decision. And Kevin was a bad leader. I mean, he went in a completely different direction than the rest of the group! Even Austin's fit in better. Wendy was asked a question; 'Was Kevin a bad leader?' and she took it that they wanted a truthful answer not a suck-up answer so she told the truth.
YES - WENDY DID NOT GO OUT OF HER WAY TO SABATOGE KEVIN. REMEMBER, SHE WAS ASKED TO COMMENT SPECIFICALLY AND SHE HAD A RIGHT SAY WHATEVER SHE WANTED -- NOT WHAT THE OTHER DESIGNERS WANTED TO HEAR. IT WAS HER 5 MINUTES IN THE SPOTLIGHT AND SHE ELECTED TO SPEAK THE TRUTH -- SOMETHING THE REST OF THE DESIGNERS FAILED TO ESTABLISH -- NAMELY, THEY ARE TIRED, DATED AND FRAUDS FOR THE MOST PART.
The way Austin and the others froze her out shows that they are so immature that they can't handle someone pointing out faults. They'd rather hate her than except the fact that there were problems with Austin and Kevin. And she's entitled to her own opinion anyway.
EXACTLY. AUSTIN AND WENDY SEEM TO SEE EYE TO EYE ON MANY POINTS. THEY LOOKED VERY GRACIOUS TO EACH OTHER TOWARDS THE END. AUSTIN WAS UNABLE TO HANDLE BEING UNDER SCRUTINY. WENDY WAS CONSTANTLY ATTACKED, BELITTLED, DISGRACED, MOCKED, HARRASSED AND AS SHE SAID, SHE STEPPED RIGHT BACK IN THERE AND DID WHAT SHE HAD TO DO TO GET TO THE FINAL 3. LOOK AT NORA RUNNING OUT LIKE A CHILD, LOOK A VANESSA LAST NIGHT ACTING LIKE THE PIG THAT SHE IS. LOOK AT THE LOW-CLASS, VULGAR AND DISGUSTING BEHAVIOR OF KARA SAUN AND JAY.
What a bunch of jerks.
AGREED!
KS gets all crapped up about Wendy using 'her' colours. No one owns the colour orange and Wendy can use it if she wants to. Thinking she's picking the colour just to sabotage you or copy you is so infantile. Get over yourself, Kara. Wendy didn't win by setting your dress on fire, she won because O'Dell LIKED HERS BETTER! She used 'your' colour and used it better.
EXACTLY - THERE WAS NO LIMITATION ON COLOR AND ALL OF THEM COULD HAVE USED ORANGE OR NOT -- TIM NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT LIMITATIONS ON FABRIC SELECTIONS. WHAT A DISGUSTING, CHEAP AND VULGAR TACTIC TO ACCUSE WENDY OF STEALING HER COLOR - IF WENDY DID THAT TO KARA I GUARANTEE THERE WOULD BE 300 POSTS ON HERE ATTACKING WENDY.
And you know what? Wendy almost never talks crap about anyone! You notice that? Jay and Kara and friends are busy talking trash behind her back and Wendy's just trying to survive. She's always civil.
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING - EXCELLENT POINT - I 100% AGREE.
How sick that no one wanted to clap for her at the reunion when she came in. I don't think she was ever mean to ANYONE on that show. Never put anyone down, that I saw.
IT WAS SO LOW CLASS, INFANTILE AND TACKY THAT THEY DID NOT GIVE WENDY THE RECEPITON SHE DESERVED AND DISMISED HER AS DIRT AND FILTH. JAY WAS ALSO HORRIBLE WHEN HE SAID "WHAT A CLICHE" - HE IS THE CLICHE - A TIRED, DATED DRAG QUEEN TYPE PERSONALITY. SO, HE "HATES" WENDY - WHAT THE HECK DID WENDY EVER DO TO JAY???? SOMEONE PLEASE ANSWER THIS. JAY HAS INSULTED THIS POOR WOMAN OVER AND OVER AGAIN - WHO DOES HE THINK HE IS? HE IS A "COCKROACH HIMSELF" FROM THE HILLS OF PENNSYLVANIA - ONE STEP REMOVED FROM THE COAL MINES!
It boils down to this. The rest of the designers talk big about having souls and doing fashion for the love of the art, but not one of them had the balls and the maturity to step forward and say anything in her defense. Not one of them tried to help her when her picture was ruined. Even if she did accuse them, a real good person would have understood that she said those things out of anger and overlooked them.
AGAIN, WELL SAID!
The behavior that most of the other designers have displayed would never have been tolerated...
THE BEHAVIOR OF THE DESIGNERS IS COMPLETELY OUT OF CHARACTER FOR THE BUSINESS WORLD. THE NY POST COLUMNIST EVEN SAID JAY WAS ONE STEP REMOVED FROM A JOKER - HE HAS NO BUSINESS SENSE, PROFESSIONALISM OR ABILITY TO ENGAGE IN THE BUSINESS WORLD. KARA SAUN? I HIGHLY DOUBT SHE WILL BE SUCCESSFUL IN ANYTHING OF THIS NATURE. WENDY IS THE NATURAL CHOICE TO BE IN CHARGE OF A CORPORATION AND HAVE HER OWN LINE.
So Wendy, if you have the divine patience that is required to do anything on the board, I hope you read this and know it's not you. I know people and you are a good person who has stepped into a fabulous, glittery, cruel world of volatile egos, and if you don't have a thick skin (I don't) you will lose your soul; you won't give it away, the industry will steal it from you. I still love fashion and I still design, but I'm never stepping in the ring again.
I PREDICT WENDY IS GOING TO WIN. REGARDLESS OF JAY'S "TRIUMPH" IN THE PRESS, HIS DESIGNS WILL NOT MARKET WELL TO THE PUBLIC AND THE BUYERS. WENDY'S DESIGNERS WERE, IN FACT, WELL RECEIVED AND REVIEWED. THAT WILL MAKE THE DIFFERENCE. SHE IS MORE PROFESSIONAL, MARKETABLE, MATURE AND ELEGANT. SHE HAS THE KNOWLEDGE, TALENT AND GOOD DESIGN SENSE AND VISION TO HAVE HER WORK SOLD ON THE MASS MARKET. I HOPE AND PRAY WITH ALL OF MY "SOUL" THAT WENDY EMERGES AS THE WINNER. SHE HAS ENDURED THE MOST, WORKED THE HARDEST AND DESERVES THIS CHANCE -- I GUARANTEE THAT THIS BOARD IS THE SMALL MINORITY AND THE LARGER PUBLIC SEES WENDY AS THE "VICTIM" AND KARA AND JAY AS THE VINDICTIVE, HARRASSING AND EVIL LOSERS - THE PREVIEWS TELL THE STORY. BOTH OF THEM ATTACKING WENDY - IT'S UNCALLED FOR! WENDY HAS MORE DIGNITY IN HER LITTLE FINGER THAN THOSE TWO EVER WILL POSSESS AND MOST IMPORTANTLY -- MUCH MORE CLASS, TALENT AND POTENTIAL FOR SUCCESS.
GO WENDY!
aguynamedWayne
February 17, 2005 - 10:35 AM
Though I would vocalize it slightly differently, I have to agree with at least the tenents of Katgirl's post (Project Drunkway! Are You Guys Dumb), I've said much the same myself (maybe a slightly nicer version though) I don't think that it is so much the we (the viewing audience)are dumb, rather, it is about the fact that we like being entertained. And Project Runway has been entertaining!! But the entertainment high does wear down a bit when one realizes that you've been sold on an idea that this was about a fair competition of talent, but find that in the end, it was just another show driven by a desire to get high ratings (high ratings lead to more advertising dollars for the show and BRAVO in general). My advice (for what it's worth), would be to remember that you are being entertained, not watching a competition. The designer who wins is not necessarily "The Best" designer. But, who really cares? Does it matter if we disagree with the final decision. I don't think it does. These designers, win or loose, have been given a format, perhaps not a completely fair format, but one that allows them to present themselves to the mass media and mass audiences in a way that even some old veterans in the fashion industry cannot achieve in todays commercial markets. The designers that have the intelligence and ability to make something of thier new found public exposure and establish a marketable fahion line will do so, the ones who do not possess those skills will fade (as have many trully "talented" designers from times past have done). They have all been given a boost, what is made from that boost is up to them. So enjoy the shows, and enjoy the fashion, but stop worrying about how your personnal favorite has fared in the competion, and wait to see what they will make of the gift of media attention they have been given.
(and if anyone is wondering, Personally, I think Austin Scarlet will prove in the end, to make the most from all of this Project Runway Press. He may not have "won", but he has shown an incredible talent, is already a media darling, and has the intelligence and self-effacing comic character that goes over big in the real world of personality driven fashion. He knows how to show pride in his own ability, without degrading the ability of others. Believe it or not, even in the cut-throat world of fashion, a little niceness, goes a long way. Best of luck Austin, I caught Scarlet fevor from the beginning. I hope we all get to see more of you in the future).
Cindy1
February 17, 2005 - 10:47 AM
I really liked Nora's reply to Vanessa's lashing out at the show and other designers. Vanessa was honest when she said the other designers(like Kara Saun)would have probably felt differently if they hadn't gotten to Fashion Week. Perhaps so, but I don't think Vanessa got it(unless she was misinformed by the choosing committee)as how the designers were to be treated: that they had to pay many of their own expenses, had to work together in a room with other people, and there would be a mix of different personalities, backgrounds, and ages. Wendy did have it correctly here--this was a reality show cum Survivor. And producers make these shows because they are cheaper to do and the profit margin can be huge. Nora said it best: I signed on for this.
She and the others were willing to risk a lot, give up a lot, in return for the exposure it would give them, and possibly give them an extra foot in the door of the fashion industry.
And how many fashion designers today can really be said to create fashion, when just about all of them have to answer to the bottom line of profitabilty? How much of what we see on the runways and and in the magazines actually gets worn as is, even on the select few that can afford it. How many designers of the past, when young, would have survived a show like "Project Runway?" Can't you just see it: Charles Frederick Worth--"Wonderful fabrics, original ideas, but too dictatorial and can't sew" Poiret--"Original, fabulous colors and design, but doesn't listen to advice and won't go outside your own aesthetic" Chanel--"Your suits look like schoolgirl uniforms grown up and every Frenchwoman already has at least one basic black dress. Very easy to knock-off though and cotton jersey is a cheap fabric." Vionnent-- "All that fabric all cut on the bias, original and very lovely, but way too labor-intensive to mass produce." Dior--"Can't draw, can't sew, and that "New Look" so you call it, my mother was wearing something a lot like it during the 1910's. And who wants a big old full cumbersome skirt and to have to wear a corset if she doesn't have a 20" waist?"
Chinchilla3
February 17, 2005 - 11:00 AM
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LOL I noticed that!!! I am sure Kevin is the sweetest guy in the world, but he really seems kind of creepy sometimes. He reminds me of Professor Snape from Harry Potter.
haha, he is SO professor snape! he creeps me out.
*hides pictures of Professor Snape with kiss marks all over it behind back*
Huh? What pictures? I have no idea what you're talking about.
*bats eyelashes innocently*
LOL Shame on you!
BumbledBee
February 17, 2005 - 11:00 AM
I just wanted to let you know that I agree wholeheartedly with your statements. I never bothered to post before, but I'm getting frustrated with the elitist attitudes on this board. Wendy played a game, a reality television game, and she came out as one of the top dogs. I say "Go Wendy!"
The other designers last night chose Wendy as their scapegoat for losing. She didn't make people lose; rather, their designs spoke for themselves. It's so much easier to point fingers then to look at one's self.
Kara has begun to believe she is the priestess of all that is fashion and morality. A moral person does not cast stones. Nobody would be watching Project Runway if it weren't for the drama Wendy stirred up. Therefore, all of the designers should thank her for increasing their publicity.
I've always liked Jay, but I would rather have Wendy win. I say "in your face" elitists!
dragonette
February 17, 2005 - 11:05 AM
Quote; "While my theory all along was that it was that psycho morgan, after watching last night I wonder if it was austin.
didn't he look a little uncomfortable hwen he was saying it wasn't worth discussing?
he kept looking down and he had this little chesire cat grin on his face while they were talking about it."
I was wondering the same thing. That guy is just too sweet but I have to say, he was fast to blow it off as unimportant, and he never forgave Wendy for the words about his leadership, which was honest and she was cornered.
I am looking forward to seeing Wendy win. She is smart, a great artist, she was honest, and owned up to what she said and did. She did not pretend to be what she was not. She has withstood some of the most brutal baby crap I have seen in a while, and came out like a professional. I would work with her any day because she has earned my respect as well as many others here on the board. And I will also add, her work is outstanding.
notadiva
February 17, 2005 - 11:08 AM
adelphus, Thanks for writing as you did. As I watched the show last eveing, I became quite disgusted with the other designers - their unprofessional attitudes and actions, immaturity, and overall lack of class. I hope Wendy rises to the occassion and leaves them all in the dust...
Chinchilla3
February 17, 2005 - 11:13 AM
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How childish.
I know there are a lot of people on this board who can and do design and produce clothing but I have a feeling for many people here, just pulling a nice outfit out of their closet is an ordeal.
I'm so sick of hearing that Wendy is talent-less or 'not a designer'. She is a designer and she does have talent. You may not like her style, there may be people who can put a garment together faster and/or better than she does but there are probably many more that can't. How many of you could pull off something in a few hours or just 2 days? I'm sure there are a few of you but I know I can barely sew on a button.
I loved her Fashion Week collection. I don't think it was the most hip, the most outrageous or the most anything. But it certainly compared well to many of the other collections I looked at, even those of experienced designers. Not everyone wants the cutting edge of fashion. She's the only one I would trust to design a garment for me.
The other designers giving Wendy their opinion of her talent,as if it was absolute truth, totally lacked class. Taste is subjective and it takes a lot of balls to come out and completely dismiss a person's 'talent'. We don't really need a world full of Simon Cowells.
I completely agree! If I were having an outfit or a suit made, Wendy is the only person from that show I would trust. In every challenge where she was given hints or guidelines as to what they like and they don't (BR, Grammy's, Post Office), she was able to rise far above the expectations and turn out a beautiful product. She listens, and half of designing for others is LISTENING. You can make the most beautiful thing in the world for a client, but if it's not what they are looking for and its not their taste, then your efforts to fulfill their need is wasted and you have failed as a designer. I love that Wendy isn't trendy and she designs things that can be worn years from now: style that exceeds the decades is what I look for in clothing.
Wendy is a designer. Wendy is talented. Wendy is GRRRRR-REAT! (in my best Tony the Tiger voice)
DJCaliboii79
February 17, 2005 - 11:24 AM
Ummm, the last time I checked this was a show about fashion design. Not a popularity contest about who is mean and who likes who. The FACT of the matter is wendy is a hot mess designer and she dont have no business in the final 3. Period. Put personal feelings aside because tv can make someone look very "one sided" but on the flip side you have to give them something to make you look that way. They didn't have a stand in double come in and do the shady acts, YOU DID THEM. But this isn't american idiol this isnt some popularity contest this is based on fashion design and how good you are. And she is a mess and shouldn't be there.
sarahcatherine
February 17, 2005 - 11:27 AM
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I completely agree! If I were having an outfit or a suit made, Wendy is the only person from that show I would trust. In every challenge where she was given hints or guidelines as to what they like and they don't (BR, Grammy's, Post Office), she was able to rise far above the expectations and turn out a beautiful product. She listens, and half of designing for others is LISTENING. You can make the most beautiful thing in the world for a client, but if it's not what they are looking for and its not their taste, then your efforts to fulfill their need is wasted and you have failed as a designer. I love that Wendy isn't trendy and she designs things that can be worn years from now: style that exceeds the decades is what I look for in clothing.
That's great if you're looking for someone who will make *you* clothes specifically, but the reward given in this competition is meant to start a clothing line, something I don't think Wendy is prepared to do.
She listens well, she takes direction and runs with it and the clothes that she designs for a specific client are well done. But, looking over her body of work on this site (or even at her personal site) I don't see any one particular style that I would attribute to Wendy. What is her design sense, what is her vision? I don't think she has a very strong vision, which is why she does so well at designing clothes for individuals who do have a strong vision. She gives them what they want, but doesn't really leave an impression of her own style on the look.
Jay, Austin, Kara, Alexandra, even Starr for crying out loud had their own vision, even if it's not something I find appealing, it's still there. And clearly there's a lot of discussion about how much someone should be willing to compromise their vision for the sake of a client (Nora sacrificing all of her vision, Austin not giving one iota of it up) but this is a non-issue for Wendy because she doesn't really have a vision to compromise.
It makes her a great custom designer, dress maker, whatever you want to call it, but I don't think her ability to listen to what a single customer wants is going to make her able to design an entire line of clothing. When she doesn't have clear direction, her designs suffer, and I think that's true even of her collection. Some of the pieces are good, but it is not a cohesive line.
It lacks direction, because Wendy doesn't have her own guiding vision. I think she's great at what she does, but I don't think she's the type of designer who can start her own label.
clothgrrl
February 17, 2005 - 11:28 AM
woah. This board seems to break down into a group that sees PR as "Survivor" with sewing machines, and another that sees it as a design competition. I personally see it as the latter, which is why I was NOT rooting for Wendy. Yes, she won the Grammy dress challenge fairly, but I'm not looking forward to seeing her final collection. I'm sure it will be nice enough - I'd be thrilled if I could sew as well as Wendy - but I'm also sure it won't be as well tailored, creative, interesting, and wearable as what some of the other designers would have done.
One incident that hasn't been cleared up: Kara accusing Wendy of "stealing" her fabric. While she didn't legally "steal" it - it hadn't been paid for - she did take the bolt off the table where Kara was collecting her fabric; using it as a docking station. Should she have to carry her fabric around with her? Or hire a guard for the table? In Survivor, of course, she would have, but in Project Runway, everyone but Wendy had the etiquette and the sportsmanship to leave others fabric alone.
DJCaliboii79
February 17, 2005 - 11:36 AM
Plus, wendy drew that line through her daughters picture. I know people dont like vanessa but I thought the same EXACT thing when that episode was shown, thats the 1st thing I thought. She did that.....either her or the producers one or the other. None of the other people did that, wendy did. She is so transparent.
ericats
February 17, 2005 - 11:41 AM
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Ok, we saw Kevin in the workroom "alone", no? And the reason we saw him in the workroom is because a camera crew was in there with him. We saw him draw on Jay's desk with the light blue grease pen, no? So if the film crew filmed him drawing on Jay's desk, why did they not film him drawing on Wendy's picture? BECAUSE HE DIDN'T DO IT! IF HE HAD DONE IT, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ON FILM AND SHOWN TO THE VIEWERS.
ericats
February 17, 2005 - 11:53 AM
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Oh yeah- forgot- any thoughts on Rob! He said nothing the entire reunion show. No one asked how he got so far-others were far more talented! No resentment or animosity toward him!
He's such a great guy! I noticed that his hair was straighter than it was during the show. Was it the humidity of an August in NYC that made his hair thicker or has he since chemically straightened it?
It's too bad that the show was more of a whine party and that's why we didn't hear too much from Robio.
BumbledBee
February 17, 2005 - 11:56 AM
DJCaliboii79,
I hardly see Wendy drawing on her own picture and then flying into hystronics. I don't think she's quite that good of an actress. The woman has never won any emmy, nor discussed any penchant for the Meisner acting technique. Therefore, could you be any more immature?
Wendy is nowhere near Survivor's ultimate villian Johnny Fairplay.
JamieC
February 17, 2005 - 11:57 AM
Ok...here's the thing. And after this I fully intend to stop talking about wendy!!
I totally understand why they were being so mean to her. I get the feeling that they all went into this thinking what I did when i first started watching, that it was talent based. I am a designer and If I were in this competition I would have been seriously dissapointed that someone who lacks talent is getting far because of strategy and NOT talent.
I am not just pissed because Austin was booted over Wendy. To be honest I doubted Austin's originality a while ago. But I thought Wendy should have been gone from the very beginning...even before the back stabbing started. SO here is one person who TRUELY does not believe in her as a designer!!!
I am looking at it like this...most of them are professional designers. They have put in hours and hours not sleeping, studying, probably stressing to the max and sheading a few tears.
They were probably excited to do what they love and be rewarded for great work, not for how well they played the game.
That is what I see as the difference between this game and other reality games...like survivor for instance...those contestants have not gone to school for survivor. They have not competed in the job market for a surviving job.
I used to see it more like American idol without the voting. Those contestants do not sabatage eachother, it is totally talent based.
Ahhh
I could go on and on about this.
I guess I just see it different looking at it as designer.
I have said it before. But the key to being successful in the TINY world of design is to NOT burn bridges. Everyone sortof helps everyone else. I feel that Wendy will have a hard time getting favors, or business for that matter after this is over. The other designers, if they need help from one of the other designers, you can bet that they will have it.
Wendy, in my opinion lacks integrity, creativity, and from what I can see, common sense. I do not think she has thought through what will happen if she loses. I do not know alot of people who want to work with someone who is willing to step all over you to get what they want. AND from what I can see she does not have a very impressive resume (unless you are a stripper in search for a new non-existant dress).
OK...I gotta stop talkign about this. I have more imortant things to do, like search for $1000 on ebay!
clothgrrl
February 17, 2005 - 12:00 PM
that's such a great description of wendy's work! thanks!
ericats
February 17, 2005 - 12:01 PM
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It still amazes me, that after all the talk on this website about how the producers of the show used the "Producers Preference" rules to decide the three finalists instead of basing it solely on talent (Everyone knows Wendy got to the finals because the public hated her, and the producers knew that every show needs a villian to keep up the dramatics and ratings. So it was not a real contest and not really a "Reality" show. But even though it has been discussed in depth, it only takes one new episode, to make people forget that, and start thinking exactly the way the Producers of the show want you too. Last night was all about rehabilitating Wendy and her image (The real fashionistas in New York seem to agree with the public that giving Wendy a leg up to Fashion Week was all about ratings and not about fashion, read any of the reviews by the real critics and you'll see what I mean).
What's really interesting is that the producers chose Wendy to be in the finals back in August long before anyone had a chance to start hating her. I'm starting to think that maybe she was a plant.
sarahcatherine
February 17, 2005 - 12:01 PM
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Plus, wendy drew that line through her daughters picture. I know people dont like vanessa but I thought the same EXACT thing when that episode was shown, thats the 1st thing I thought. She did that.....either her or the producers one or the other. None of the other people did that, wendy did. She is so transparent.
You know, that really has nothing to do with if she's a good designer or not. I'm sorry, I'm just sick of the discussion about the stupid picture. I think the only reason it was brought up on the show last night is because there has been so much talk about it on the message boards.
Like her, don't like her, it doesn't matter. Does it affect if you'd buy her clothes? Sure, I don't like her, wouldn't wear her clothes...but I wouldn't wear them mainly because I don't like her (lack of) design aesthetic. How the public feels about her has little effect on her actual design abilities.
Her business' bottem line however...well, that's something she'll have to deal with.
DieTrying
February 17, 2005 - 12:05 PM
First off, what's up with all these one-hit-wonder, head-up-Wendy's-ass posts? Did she pay all you people to come on and say nice things about her? No offense to those who've been Wendy fans from the beginning, but I'm wondering to what do we owe the misfortune of this most recent phenomenon?
Starr - I was very impressed with her last night. During the competition, I wanted her booted out, but last night she came off like a normal human being. Good for her.
Kevin - I still don't understand all this Kevin love. Yeah, he's a good designer, I'll give him that. But he's got so very little personality and backbone. He frustrates me in his inability to make a decision and articulate himself as a business professional.
Kara - yeah, kind of preachy, but you can't say that what she said wasn't at least mostly true. I don't like her "been there, done that" attitude, but she's entitled to it, having been making her living at this for so very long. She's not my favorite (Jay is), but I have an immense amount of respect for her. I can't wait to see her finally, rightfully, snap next week. Oh, but I didn't really care for the way she had her head up the producers' asses, constantly sticking up for the show when we all (at least around here) know that it's 50% sham.
Jay - I love you. I want to live near you so we can be best friends and drink coffee and smoke really long cigarettes and wear Jackie O sunglasses and be bitchy old hags together. I mean that. Still, some of his comments last night really weren't kosher by me.
Rob - Rob, Rob, Rob. I want to do you just once and get it out of my system.
Vanessa - even after what happened, I still take her side. This is her career, and everyone else's for that matter. She thought she was entering into a real competition, which this show falls sorely short of. That aside, a person knows when they're being interviewed, so saying that you didn't know it wasn't going to be printed is bull-crap.
Austin - yeah, you did look like a doily. I love you anyway.
Nora - love her! She was one of my original choices for the final 3. I want to just gobble her up! Her impression of Heidi is dead-on.
Alexandra - I don't understand what the big deal was about her. He never said anything. She didn't have that much personality. Her designs didn't stand out. Big freaking whoop.
Wendy - oh, Wendy, what a cow you are. Granted, you did look a far cry better last night than you have in the last 2 months of shows, but you're not the Queen of Calm that you're trying to make yourself come off as. You and everyone else on this planet know that based solely on the merits of your talents as a designer, you don't deserve to show at fashion week. It's all a joke. Just go back to your quiet little life in Virginia and please just leave the rest of the world alone. You're the Omarosa of the design industry, which is precisely what nobody wants to be.
Heidi - you're a [expletive deleted]. After everything that people have posted and that Vanessa interview I read, I realized exactly how much of this is play acting for you, pretending to be all chummy with the designers when you wouldn't piss on them if they were dying of thirst. Get over your damn self.
Morgan - oy. If you don't want to be portrayed as a jackass, then don't act like one. It's not as if you don't know a million cameras are watching you.
Olga - I'm so glad she didn't show up last night. "Oh, it itches!" "Take this off me, please!" Blah, blah, blah. Get over it. Yeah, life is just so hard having a job where all you have to do is stay thin and walk upright. Woe is you.
I've got a newfound respect for Tim Gunn. I didn't like him at first, but I've really warmed up to him. His advice is sound, if a little harsh sometimes, but he's truly doing it for the benefit of the designers. He comes off as stern, but he really knows what's up. Hot [expletive deleted]? Um, no, but he's still okay in my book.
I heart Michael Kors. He's fair and not unkind, and very professional.
ericats
February 17, 2005 - 12:14 PM
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As for the Texas Hillbillies, maybe you should do some research into things before you speak. Just because Texas did not geographically fall into what must be the Nirvana of the North, according to you, we are just as wordly...
That and isn't Dallas known for being a big design center in the US?
PoohBear66
February 17, 2005 - 12:18 PM
I've been reading these boards with interest the past couple of weeks and now must join the masses and add my opinion (for what it's worth!).
In watching the 'reunion' episode last night (and I only caught parts of it) I was impressed with the maturity Nora displayed - in direct contrast to her melt downs while she was on the show. She seems to have at least learned from her experience. If she continues to mature I would bet she'll do well wherever she lands.
It was amusing to see Wendy looking like a 'normal' person instead of a caricature. It would not surprise me to find out that the 'Cruella' dye job and the 'clown' type makeup was a departure from her normal look and was part of her strategy for the show. I still am not impressed with her designs, or in her attitudes. Yes, this was a contest (sort of), and yes, the object is to win. But I question the wisdom of presenting to the world, and so teaching her child, that winning at any cost is the way to go. Most of what she created was merely passable, and as others have noted, did not seem to have any sort of signature to it.
Austin is interesting just being Austin. And I think I would really enjoy wearing his creations. He has been criticized for being unwilling to let go of making all things pretty. I'm not sure that's a fault, really. A lot of designers have a certain 'look'. A look that is recognizable as their own. Austin's 'look' is mostly very feminine, rather dressy (even in casual wear) and pretty. Women who aren't drawn to that type of look will simply buy garments by another designer. That's why there's room for more than one in the world!
As for Kara and Jay - I don't think their works are clothes I would choose to wear - but see above comment! Jay's clothes in particular seem to be stamped with his signature. They both have shown a fair amount of aplomb in how they've dealt with the pressure of the competition, the cameras, and the other personalities involved.
As has been pointed out numerous times before, this is just a show, for entertainment purposes, and what we've seen is skewed by editing. Real people presented as caricatures to gain ratings. . . yet I still watch!!
ps - to the poster who referred to the latest QE episode, the make over of Brud - definitely Barry Manilow! Still like him - looks and voice - after all these years!
notadiva
February 17, 2005 - 12:18 PM
Actually, she is a designer... and a strategic game player. To say she's not a designer shows your ignorance. Whether or not she's the best, is yet to be seen - plus, on at least two occassions, she's shown her designing ability - by winning those assignments. She's grown throughout the contest. Though appearing hard headed, she's made changes to her process and her thinking. She's flexible and not stuck in any one vein of fashion. Plus, she's really the only honest one of the bunch.
And, on another note... the only one I've actually seen sabotage any one is Kara - "helping" Jay with his last design... hmmmm, wonder what her motive was....?
sarahcatherine
February 17, 2005 - 12:23 PM
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Her lawyer background really showed through last night. Too bad it wasn't present during the show, I think she could have done better if she had been more confident in herself.
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Jay - I love you. I want to live near you so we can be best friends and drink coffee and smoke really long cigarettes and wear Jackie O sunglasses and be bitchy old hags together. I mean that. Still, some of his comments last night really weren't kosher by me.
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Vanessa - even after what happened, I still take her side. This is her career, and everyone else's for that matter. She thought she was entering into a real competition, which this show falls sorely short of. That aside, a person knows when they're being interviewed, so saying that you didn't know it wasn't going to be printed is bull-crap.
I think Vanessa really did herself a disservice in her behaviour, both in the article and in the entire show. Her idea of what the show would be like is so outside the realm of possibility I have a hard time believing she really thought she'd be going to DKNY and directing the staff. And even if she did, once you find out that's not what the show is, why not try to make the best of it? She complains about what the show did (or didn't do) for her business while not taking any responsibility for her actions.
Maybe it's how she behaved on the show (and especially how she came across in that article) that haven't helped her business any, not the show itself. This is her career, so why did she not try to represent herself in the best possible light no matter what? For someone who goes on and on about how fashion designing is all about having the right image she sure dropped the ball repeatedly in maintaining hers.
Melba
February 17, 2005 - 12:26 PM
Yup, she paid me. The check is in the mail.
I hope she wins and pisses everyone off. Har..de..har...har. (add bugs bunny voice)
I don't know which is worse, some of Wendy's tatics or the nasty comments coming out of their mouths about her. It's a close tie.
She in. So what. Does she really deserve to be there. I don't know. She got lucky but she also had some solid designs. When other people failed, she got in. If Kevin only deconstructed his garment. If Alessandra didn't borrow from other designs. If only..if only. The designers only have themselves to blame and bad timing. And what do these designers care? The more they trash Wendy, the more popular show becomes. The more they get noticed. So isn't that a "tatic"? Sneaky..sneaky...sneaky..guys.
That's my story..I'm sticking to it.
(btw...I like Jay's designs..*gasp*)
angeedee
February 17, 2005 - 12:27 PM
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I completely agree! If I were having an outfit or a suit made, Wendy is the only person from that show I would trust. In every challenge where she was given hints or guidelines as to what they like and they don't (BR, Grammy's, Post Office), she was able to rise far above the expectations and turn out a beautiful product. She listens, and half of designing for others is LISTENING. You can make the most beautiful thing in the world for a client, but if it's not what they are looking for and its not their taste, then your efforts to fulfill their need is wasted and you have failed as a designer. I love that Wendy isn't trendy and she designs things that can be worn years from now: style that exceeds the decades is what I look for in clothing.
That's great if you're looking for someone who will make *you* clothes specifically, but the reward given in this competition is meant to start a clothing line, something I don't think Wendy is prepared to do.
She listens well, she takes direction and runs with it and the clothes that she designs for a specific client are well done. But, looking over her body of work on this site (or even at her personal site) I don't see any one particular style that I would attribute to Wendy. What is her design sense, what is her vision? I don't think she has a very strong vision, which is why she does so well at designing clothes for individuals who do have a strong vision. She gives them what they want, but doesn't really leave an impression of her own style on the look.
Jay, Austin, Kara, Alexandra, even Starr for crying out loud had their own vision, even if it's not something I find appealing, it's still there. And clearly there's a lot of discussion about how much someone should be willing to compromise their vision for the sake of a client (Nora sacrificing all of her vision, Austin not giving one iota of it up) but this is a non-issue for Wendy because she doesn't really have a vision to compromise.
It makes her a great custom designer, dress maker, whatever you want to call it, but I don't think her ability to listen to what a single customer wants is going to make her able to design an entire line of clothing. When she doesn't have clear direction, her designs suffer, and I think that's true even of her collection. Some of the pieces are good, but it is not a cohesive line.
It lacks direction, because Wendy doesn't have her own guiding vision. I think she's great at what she does, but I don't think she's the type of designer who can start her own label.
I agree with you, SC.
Producing a garment that is exactly like what your client asked for is called dressmaking. Wendy is a seamstress. she can make something she is told to make.
a designer is someone who comes up with something on their own. like jay's grammy skirt. or kara's wedding gown.
a person who requires extreme direction cannot launch their own line. that is not what being a designer is all about.
ericats
February 17, 2005 - 12:30 PM
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Has anybody seen that awful "Pret-a-Porter" movie from Robert Altman? That's always been my idea of the fashion industry.
Ha, ha! I liked that movie! I loved how Tracy Ullman, Sally Kellerman, and Linda Hunt (the magazine editors) got duped by the photographer.
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As for Wendy, you said it best. Her reward is hustling her way into the top 3 but she has no chance in hell of winning. Zero. Zilch. Nada.
Going by the reviews that I read (five of them) Wendy is probably not going to win. Also, I suspect that since the reviews were so bad the judges might humiliate her during the judging segment.
angeedee
February 17, 2005 - 12:36 PM
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First off, what's up with all these one-hit-wonder, head-up-Wendy's-ass posts? Did she pay all you people to come on and say nice things about her?
LOL!!!!
that's pretty funny. I noticed that too. I think maybe it's the same person. I had a vision of wendy, with her brown hair dye on and a plastic bag around it, sitting at her computer logging on again and again to defend herself.
i think it is clear what the truth is.
What goes around comes around. Nobody ever got ahead doing mean things to other people, and I don't think wendy's going anywhere but back to her sad little shop in Backwoods, Va.
She seems to be a competent dressmaker. she should stick to that.
And I wish she would stop acting like being 40 years old and the mother of a chidl is some kind of crippling handicap. as if.
ericats
February 17, 2005 - 12:46 PM
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On a side note, while we're discussing Wendy's strategy...anyone else think that the blue eyeshadow, bad dye job, thick glasses and blechy clothing was more strategy? To invoke pity and make her appear as a weak contendor, so that the other designers, not thinking of her as a real challenge, would be more inclined to confide in her about themselves and their designs?
Yes, it was very strategic. After seeing last night's show I'm starting to think that maybe she was a plant.
PRaddict
February 17, 2005 - 12:51 PM
Um, I don't remember BR or Nancy O'Dell giving Wendy a sketch or telling Wendy how to design those dresses. She is obviously skilled at designing a garment for a particular individual. That is not a bad talent for a designer to have. That certainly doesn't mean she didn't design something, just because she used the client's taste as a clue. I see that give and take happen all the time between celebrities and designers. You just can't give her credit for anything can you?