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Perhaps Vanessa needs a little more coaching on what it takes to be a professional anything.
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TTB could you tell if it was feathers on that skirt in the PO challenge?
Ok, after winding and rewinding the tape a hundred times, lol, I got a good enough view. The top is like a dark red-orange, can't really make out the bustline, it's form-fitting, and is coupled with what appears to be a short blue skirt with something on it but I can't determine if they are feathers or not.
The skirt is definitely orange feathers. The top is a halter that closes at the back of the neck.
Funny too when someone hasn't seen any of the episodes. If you ask me, Kara was Wendy's best friend for half the shows at least. Only after Kevin's elimination (the USPS show) did she revise her thinking. Then the fabric thing. Now she's angry and has come around to other people's views. And she's pushing back. Funny how these Defendies want to portray it as something else, as if it's unjustified and/or comes from no context/provocation at all.
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Quote:Quote:I don't think Wendy stole the design, but that's my opinion. Unless Wendy "confesses," we'll never know.
Awful big coincidence. The store the designers buy all their fabric in having a display with a skirt that looks just like Wendy'S. A skirt that looks like nothing she has done before. I am would bet she saw it. And let us not forget In her own interview Wendy states she sees nothing wrong with stealing.
It looked to me like the mannequin's skirt was made of multi-colored netting, not feathers. The gathered netting gave it a flouncy and wide shape.
Wendy's skirt was smooth and form-fitting. It had orange lace at the top and hip area (and perhaps all the way down). The hemline trim had feathers woven sideways into the lace. Maybe some of the suede-like fabric of the top was used on the original skirt, along with the gold rings.
The "tweaked" skirt was definitely made out of the same fabric at the top, minus the feathers and gold (which I had liked) but just as form-fitting.
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Nope, paused the tape - the mannequin was wearing a mini-skirt with orange feathers all over it. The top was a little darker orange and was halter shaped. She totally copied that dress.
OOPS! Sorry TTB, I posted my post before I saw yours that stated that you had the wrong challenge.
Cool! What day was that?
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OOPS! Sorry TTB, I posted my post before I saw yours that stated that you had the wrong challenge.
No problem, it's a Starz free preview weekend and they always play the best ones late
I'm going to say night night now because another of my favorite movies is coming on - He*lboy!
Night all
I am rather upset now. I wish we could call that store and ask about it.
How is Jay inconsistent? When was he ever on the block as 1 of the 2 who might be eliminated. When there were a lot of contestants, he was in the middle of the pack. He was near the top in the BR challenge and he was second to Kara in the USPS challenge and second to Austin in the swimsuit challenge. He and Kara were never on the brink of elimination, though Kara was "safe" much more because of those wins.
Winning was not the only thing needed to move on. And Jay had all the buzz from the press after the FW shows. He clearly knows what he's doing.
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Winning was not the only thing needed to move on. And Jay had all the buzz from the press after the FW shows. He clearly knows what he's doing.
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No, she didn't like either color it seems. If you saw her comment you'd know.
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For Gawd's sake, what is this?!
She totally copied O'Duh's blouse and the skirt from the fabric store.
She totally copied O'Duh's blouse and the skirt from the fabric store.
Quote:I've heard others mention this, but I don't recall seeing it. Which episode was it?
Every designer has said something but Wendy took it to the hilt. So tell me, do you REALLY approve of her saying she's going to use her motherhood to get close to people so she can exploit their weaknesses? Is that an ok thing to do for "the game" (a game she created).
I'm surprised the comment bothers you that much, because the competition wasn't a "game" she could win that way. And as a strategy, it didn't work.
I don't recall her being close to anyone (those she liked didn't like her). Although I think she had some of the contestants correctly "pegged," it didn't help her. Strategy didn't sway the judges. Designs did.
I think we're agreed that she chose to be the outsider (we differ as to whether she deserved all she got in that role). But the two ideas conflict: "Use motherhood to get close to exploit others" while also being "the outsider." This discrepency doesn't bother you?
Although I didn't recall her saying that, and can't place it in context, seeing that it didn't work, I think you're that one statement far too harshly. But that's my opinion.
Remember the bathing suit/evening wear episode? The columnist said he thought it would have been better had Wendy mentioned that she was a 40-something mother. Had she done that, would it have made you angry? Would you consider it an exploitation of motherhoood?
I'm just curious.
Mel
Quote:I think I read here that Kevin has had designs at FW before. Was it 2002 and 2003? I forget, but I think it two years in a row. If I'm wrong, someone please correct me. Thanks.
YAAAAHHHHH KEVIN....i knew he would do well, i certainly felt that he had something to go to after the show considering he hasn't felt pressured to design a tea-shirt for PR, nor did he appear in the front row of fashion week (obviously he was too busy with his own line)....i really do believe he was the most talented designer on the show...
I'm brand new here and have read some, not all, of this thread. I've watched all the episodes of Project Runway (more than once and in some cases even more than twice) and just have to say that I CAN'T WAIT for Wednesday!
As you may be able to tell by my screen name, I'm more about the reality show part of this than the fashion part. The characters, the real people in this reality show, are something else. I totally and absolutely LOVE Jay; Robert is just as cute as he is dumb; and I wanna see Wendy's butt kicked and not necessarily by either Kara (who I think has a great honesty and class about her)or Jay but by the very people who will have a HUGE impact on her future.
I will be really disappointed if on the final runway something isn't said by the "judges" about Wendy's character as it is portrayed on this show. I would be disappointed because if Wendy's behavior is NOT addressed, then to me as a complete lay-person, it would seem that it is acceptable by those in the "business." Is this the kind of behavior Michael Kors, Heidi Klum, and all the other judges really want to be associated with? After all, THEY did bring her along this far. She really does need to be knocked down a few notches. She's so arrogant for someone who's not even there, yet(?).
As you may be able to tell by my screen name, I'm more about the reality show part of this than the fashion part. The characters, the real people in this reality show, are something else. I totally and absolutely LOVE Jay; Robert is just as cute as he is dumb; and I wanna see Wendy's butt kicked and not necessarily by either Kara (who I think has a great honesty and class about her)or Jay but by the very people who will have a HUGE impact on her future.
I will be really disappointed if on the final runway something isn't said by the "judges" about Wendy's character as it is portrayed on this show. I would be disappointed because if Wendy's behavior is NOT addressed, then to me as a complete lay-person, it would seem that it is acceptable by those in the "business." Is this the kind of behavior Michael Kors, Heidi Klum, and all the other judges really want to be associated with? After all, THEY did bring her along this far. She really does need to be knocked down a few notches. She's so arrogant for someone who's not even there, yet(?).
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I've heard others mention this, but I don't recall seeing it. Which episode was it?
Second episode.
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I don't recall her being close to anyone...
She was close with Austin but things became weird after the Sarah Hudson challenge. She tried to get close to Vanessa but V knew what she was up to. And she was friends with Kara up until the Kevin elimination.
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Strategy didn't sway the judges. Designs did.
Then why did she resort to using strategies and to trashing (her words) people?
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I've heard others mention this, but I don't recall seeing it. Which episode was it?
Second episode.
I think that she said something in the first episode as well.
Oh my God! I certainly have the same feelings about the other designers. If they believe in themseleves that they are God's gift to humanity for having such a unique talent, why would they bother themselves with Wendy who has been cast as talentless and ruthless competitor? Watching the reunion show and the preview for the finale, Kara's attitude is so juvenile to say the least. Yes she is good, but why would she feel threatened by Wendy when she knows 100 percent she is way better than her?
On the other hand, the fued makes for good TV so I wonder up to what extent did the producers use them to get what they want shown on our screens? tsk, tsk...
I am not a Wendy fan, (in fact, I have been rooting for Jay eversince), but why would they gang up on Wendy? I can understand why Mario, Alexandra, Vanessa or those people eliminated much earlier in the show said what they said during the reunion show because they are losers and that's just pure envy and sourgraping, but Kara or Jay? I think it's only Robert who didn't say anything bad at all to Wendy, well because I believe it was futile. The judges have spoken and that's final. If they have any gripes about Wendy getting into the final three, then they should address their concerns to the judges. They are barking up the wrong tree!
Watching the marathon today, I especially love the Banana Republic challenge (I did cry for Wendy the first time I saw it and I still get a little misty during repeat viewings!),and the Grammy challenge when Austin was eliminated (I cried for Austin too!) Oh my God, these two shows featured Wendy winning the challenge in both shows. Am I a closet Wendy fan? Well, I dont really adore her designs, but I admire her as a person because she is competitive, honest and transparent. If being a "[expletive deleted]" can get you where you want to be, what is wrong with that? To the losers, don't take it personally. Lighten up!
On the other hand, the fued makes for good TV so I wonder up to what extent did the producers use them to get what they want shown on our screens? tsk, tsk...
I am not a Wendy fan, (in fact, I have been rooting for Jay eversince), but why would they gang up on Wendy? I can understand why Mario, Alexandra, Vanessa or those people eliminated much earlier in the show said what they said during the reunion show because they are losers and that's just pure envy and sourgraping, but Kara or Jay? I think it's only Robert who didn't say anything bad at all to Wendy, well because I believe it was futile. The judges have spoken and that's final. If they have any gripes about Wendy getting into the final three, then they should address their concerns to the judges. They are barking up the wrong tree!
Watching the marathon today, I especially love the Banana Republic challenge (I did cry for Wendy the first time I saw it and I still get a little misty during repeat viewings!),and the Grammy challenge when Austin was eliminated (I cried for Austin too!) Oh my God, these two shows featured Wendy winning the challenge in both shows. Am I a closet Wendy fan? Well, I dont really adore her designs, but I admire her as a person because she is competitive, honest and transparent. If being a "[expletive deleted]" can get you where you want to be, what is wrong with that? To the losers, don't take it personally. Lighten up!
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Okay - I just read Wendy's web page and her admission about trashing Kevin. I still say that it was a competition and Wendy does not have anything to do with the outcome - the judges and the producers do so where is all the outrage at them? They were the ones who let her get to Fashion Week.
I am kinda wondering if maybe all this outrage at Wendy's unethical behavior would be better placed on the heads of the TV execs and judges who for lack of a better word rewarded her behavior.
Check the "Judges" thread.
Jay is consistent it doesn't matter if he didn't win a challenge. He and Austin were pretty much tied, and he was close with Kara a couple of times. He was very consistent and that is why he made it to the final three. Wendy said she was going to get people to trust her, so she could use it against them. I believe that is why most people don't like her. I liked all the designers, however, I like Jay, Kara, and Austin's designs the best. I hope Jay wins. If he doesn't win so what! He'll do really well in this business.
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My take:
Jay has not won once.
Austin won twice.
Kara won 4 times.
Wendy won twice.
Jay is inconsistent, undisciplined and thinks he is good. He isn't. I can't fathom why he thinks he should be one of the final three. I really hope he does not win.
I HATE TO BREAK THIS TO YOU, BUT YOU ARE DEAD WRONG ON ALL COUNTS. JAY IS EXTREMELY CONSISTENTLY GOOD - VERSATILE - AND VERY DISCIPLINED IN HIS CRAFT. HIS ATTENTION TO DETAIL IS AMAZING, HIS SENSE OF COLOR, SHAPE, TEXTURE, WHAT IS IN, ETC., ETC., ETC. HE HAS ALSO CONSISTENTLY BEEN IN THE 'BEST' CATEGORY, AND HAS FREQUENTLY BEEN SECOND. MANY PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD FEEL HE SHOULD HAVE WON SEVERAL OF THE CHALLENGES. ALSO, THE CRITICS ARE RAVING ABOUT HIS FINAL COLLECTION - IF YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU WILL SEE WHY; AT THIS POINT, MANY BELIEVE (INCLUDING ME, WHO PREDICTED HE WOULD BE IN THE FINAL THREE) THAT HE WILL WIN THE BIG PRIZE. HE IS VISIONARY, UNIQUE, WEARABLE, BEAUTIFUL. AND, HONEY, HE DOESN'T THINK HE'S GOOD, HE KNOWS HE'S GOOD.
Austin is very talented, albeit young. He had some excellent designs and some that were so-so.
YOU'RE RIGHT THERE.
Kara showed 7 out of 9 designs with the same neckline. One note samba, in my opinion. She knows fabrics and is probably too jaded by Hollywood. She doesn't take too many chances. Her stuff is pretty but ultimately forgettable. I wonder why they had someone with experience designing for the stars in the group. The rest, even if in the fashion industry, have a lot less experience.
THINK YOU'RE MAKING A FEW TOO MANY ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT WHAT EXPERIENCE HAS TAUGHT HER AND ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE OF THE OTHER DESIGNERS, INCLUDING KEVIN, AUSTIN, AND EVEN DANIEL. KEVIN HAS DONE SOME PRETTY HIGH-PROFILE STUFF. ALSO, YOU MAY BE HITTING THE MARK ON THE NECKLINE THING, BUT IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO HAVE A STYLE, A SIGNATURE. I FEEL SHE WALKS THE LINE BETWEEN CHANCE AND EXPERIENCE, KNOWS HOW TO LISTEN, VISUALIZE, COMMUNICATE. I WOULD WEAR HER STUFF IF I HAD THE BOOBS AND/OR THE MONEY.
Wendy is insecure and inconsistent;
YUP.
but is trying really hard to grow as a designer.
HMM . . . GROW AS A DESIGNER? OR A COMPETITOR?
I think she is good and will be better with healthy criticism.
YIKES. GOOD, HUH? MAKES ME WONDER WHAT YOU WEAR, WHAT DECADE YOU GREW UP IN . . .
She has become the scapegoat of the group.
SHE PUT HERSELF THERE.
Jay is equally bitchy, Kara Saun thinks she herself is too good. Kara Saun showed her bitchy side during the Grammy episode. Her "help" didn't really help Jay, at all. Her solution was no better than what he had to begin with. And orange was a choice for all of them to make.
SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE ANOTHER WENDY DEFENDY . . . AND A MINDREADER TOO! I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHAT OTHERS THINK, AS YOU SEEM TO!!! AT LEAST KARA GENIUNELY WAS INTERESTED IN HELPING JAY AND TRIED TO . . . INSTEAD OF DOING IT TO TRY TO GET RID OF HIM!!! BEING BITCHY AND BEING HUMAN AND HAVING RESENTMENT IS ONE THING - BEING DELIBERATELY MANIPULATIVE IS ANOTHER.
I don't think Wendy marked up her daughter's photo. So many of the designers on the show are nasty - why does everyone think Wendy is the only mean one?
IT'S NOT THAT PEOPLE THINK WENDY IS THE ONLY "MEAN" ONE. IT'S THAT SHE WAS THE ONLY ONE WITH A DELIBERATE, DISHONEST, ADMITTED STRATEGY AND HER TACTICS WERE HURTFUL TO THE OTHER DESIGNERS AS WELL AS THE MORALE OF THEM AND THE QUALITY OF THE SHOW. PAINFUL.
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Go Wendy, go!!! After all the self-righteous speeches Jay and Kara made last week, I really hope Wendy wins the whole thing. Whether they like Wendy or not and whether she's a nice person with a soul is irrelevant -- she's there to compete, just like the rest of them. At least she's honest enough to admit it. What, Jay and Kara are there to make friends? Just have a good time? C'mon, based on what I've seen they're far more guilty of the "soul-less" behavior they accuse Wendy of than Wendy herself. They should be ashamed of themselves. Frankly, I think Wendy's got them rattled because Kara and Jay focus so much energy on how much they dislike her. And let's be realistic for a moment: Kara's designs are more costume than fashion in my book; I can see Jay morphing into a male Betsy Johnson; but frankly Wendy's got the most commercial appeal. I may be in the minority but I'm rooting for you Wendy. Let's hope you take it all.
IF WENDY WINS THIS COMPETITION, YOU'D BETTER GET INTO YOUR BOMB SHELTER WITH YOUR CAN OPENER, BECAUSE HELL WILL FREEZE OVER, PIGS WILL FLY, AND THE LAST PAGES OF THE BIBLE WILL HAVE COME TO PASS.
I thought they were quite a group of characters and I loved watching them interact each week. My favs included Alessandra, Kara, and Jay. I thought Alessandra got robbed with the bathing suit judgement. Don't tell me she's the only one who has ever been influenced by other designers. I think her age was her downfall, which is sad, because her designs were great. Austin was a hoot to watch and very talented and while Rob didnt "wow" me, he was a pleasure to watch as well. I was happy to see some of them go as I felt that they just got to be "too much of nothing" after a few weeks. Nora has to grow up...the meltdown was embarrassing to watch. And Vanessa? (shaking my head here)...this whole thing seemed like a joke to her and she came off like a joke as well. Leave the singing to the professionals and put the booze down girl, and you might have gone farther. When I first saw the ads for the show before it started, I rolled my eyes. But, I have to admit, I was hooked right away and looked forward to Wednesday nights. I'm sorry it's almost over and really can't wait to see the next edition, if there is one.
Sorry if this has already been answered, but I have 8 pages to go before the end of this thread!
Kevin's website is emusestudio.com. You should be able to contact him there.
Kevin's website is emusestudio.com. You should be able to contact him there.
Tsk tsk....good TV no such thing!!!!
I too saw the BR challenge and came to the conclusion only 2 of the designers were on target. Wendy unfortunatly and Austin. Kara Saun almost made it but the ruffles killed her. Jay and Nora were "almost" too. Whether any of them thought this far I have no cle<seriously doubt it>> The key to the win was BR<ick> style AND the scale up in size. To win I think one really had to THINK would this design work in 13/14? Usually most stores<again unfortunate> stop at 14.
Wendy I feel for a dress maker should have a better command of her needle. Oh yeah...go wendy.
I too saw the BR challenge and came to the conclusion only 2 of the designers were on target. Wendy unfortunatly and Austin. Kara Saun almost made it but the ruffles killed her. Jay and Nora were "almost" too. Whether any of them thought this far I have no cle<seriously doubt it>> The key to the win was BR<ick> style AND the scale up in size. To win I think one really had to THINK would this design work in 13/14? Usually most stores<again unfortunate> stop at 14.
Wendy I feel for a dress maker should have a better command of her needle. Oh yeah...go wendy.
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Watching the marathon, I noticed Kevin's BR dress was beautiful! Wish it had been featured a little more. All black with red?/pink? trim - but stunning cut! I agree, he was good! Really, there were several stunning dresses on that challenge. E
E, I agree, a lot of good work was done that week! Kevin's dress was fabulous, one of my top three!
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i don't understand what the deal is about Wendy. She is good. If she sabotaged or tricked anyone in the competition. Don't you think the judges would have figured that out? I think one of the reasons people dont like her is because she didn't subscribe to the groupy, cliquey, thing that everyone else did. And she didn't fit the stereotype of the designer that everyone else did. If she didnt deserve to be there, the judges would have kicked her off. And I think the reason the judges asked her if she thought Kevin was a good leader is because they knew they would get an honest answer out of her, if they would have asked anyone else they would have said he was fine just because they liked him as a person.
On another note I think Kara Saun will win, because I think she is the best as a designer. I don't like her the best as a person, but I think she is the most talented.
On another note I think Kara Saun will win, because I think she is the best as a designer. I don't like her the best as a person, but I think she is the most talented.
(quote): At least she didn't try to hide behind false friendliness.
Yes, she did. She was holding hands and hugging everyone, then dissing them later both on the runway and in her independent shots. I think she was being totally false.
Yes, she did. She was holding hands and hugging everyone, then dissing them later both on the runway and in her independent shots. I think she was being totally false.
Someone posted links to the FW Wire Images. Thanks, I enjoyed seeing them.
I wasn't willing to pay the $10 fee to see them enlarged. For free, the pictures of each outfit were one-inch-tall.
I liked Wendy's designs the best. Yes, really. I loved the long gowns, particularly the green one with the dark bodice, and the slinky deep-red one. I loved the risque form-fitting, and seemingly see-through, top and pants outfit. I loved the dress and jacket outfit.
Austin's red dress was stunning, but I didn't like the rest of his outfits. He was there so the viewers wouldn't be able to guess who won. He didn't have an opportunity to show his true talent.
Kara Saun's designs gave me deja vu. I felt I'd seen them all before, many times.
Jay's designs didn't appeal to me. I've already forgotten them.
So, yes, I really did like Wendy's designs the best (again, based on one-inch-tall pictures).
Well, I'm consistent, anyway.
Mel
I wasn't willing to pay the $10 fee to see them enlarged. For free, the pictures of each outfit were one-inch-tall.
I liked Wendy's designs the best. Yes, really. I loved the long gowns, particularly the green one with the dark bodice, and the slinky deep-red one. I loved the risque form-fitting, and seemingly see-through, top and pants outfit. I loved the dress and jacket outfit.
Austin's red dress was stunning, but I didn't like the rest of his outfits. He was there so the viewers wouldn't be able to guess who won. He didn't have an opportunity to show his true talent.
Kara Saun's designs gave me deja vu. I felt I'd seen them all before, many times.
Jay's designs didn't appeal to me. I've already forgotten them.
So, yes, I really did like Wendy's designs the best (again, based on one-inch-tall pictures).
Well, I'm consistent, anyway.
Mel
[I don't know what Nancy O'Dell was thinking!!!/]
She wasn't thinking fashion but what works on camera: plain top sans beads, right color, place to conceal microphone, and don't upstage the stars. Her pick was very utilitarian.
She wasn't thinking fashion but what works on camera: plain top sans beads, right color, place to conceal microphone, and don't upstage the stars. Her pick was very utilitarian.
I HATE wendy!!! Shes so mean and she could care less about how she treats others!!
Quote:Quote:I've heard others mention this, but I don't recall seeing it. Which episode was it?
Every designer has said something but Wendy took it to the hilt. So tell me, do you REALLY approve of her saying she's going to use her motherhood to get close to people so she can exploit their weaknesses? Is that an ok thing to do for "the game" (a game she created).
I'm surprised the comment bothers you that much, because the competition wasn't a "game" she could win that way. And as a strategy, it didn't work.
I don't recall her being close to anyone (those she liked didn't like her). Although I think she had some of the contestants correctly "pegged," it didn't help her. Strategy didn't sway the judges. Designs did.
I think we're agreed that she chose to be the outsider (we differ as to whether she deserved all she got in that role). But the two ideas conflict: "Use motherhood to get close to exploit others" while also being "the outsider." This discrepency doesn't bother you?
Although I didn't recall her saying that, and can't place it in context, seeing that it didn't work, I think you're that one statement far too harshly. But that's my opinion.
Remember the bathing suit/evening wear episode? The columnist said he thought it would have been better had Wendy mentioned that she was a 40-something mother. Had she done that, would it have made you angry? Would you consider it an exploitation of motherhoood?
I'm just curious.
Mel
Oh, not this argument again. Mel, definitely go on Wendy's site. It will define the ambiguity you may have regarding Wendy (http://wendypepper.com). It is her site; it does not forward to the Bravo site.
Wendy did say something to this effect in Episode 1 or 2. Definitely in 2, because she tries to get close to Vanessa in the laundromat, and Vanessa says not to interview her for the cameras, and then Wendy gets all defensive, in her usually artless, clumsy way, BECAUSE Vanessa saw right through Wendy.
It's not about Wendy simply being a mom, or using the fact that she's a mom in front of the Johnson guy. It's the fact that she uses tactics to get ahead instead of just friggin' designing something for God's sake. And, the judges did not pick Wendy to move forward. The BR lady, Nancy O'Dell and the producers did.
Thank God, someone else noticed that Wendy exactly (color and all) copied Nancy O'Dell's cami shirt that she was wearing when she went to Parsons - Nancy hated the skirt (Wendy's "original") but loved the top THAT SHE WAS ALREADY WEARING. I am not a "Wendy hater" per se, however, I thought that was a horrible "win" - did anyone else see this??
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As you may be able to tell by my screen name, I'm more about the reality show part of this than the fashion part. The characters, the real people in this reality show, are something else. I totally and absolutely LOVE Jay; Robert is just as cute as he is dumb; and I wanna see Wendy's butt kicked and not necessarily by either Kara (who I think has a great honesty and class about her)or Jay but by the very people who will have a HUGE impact on her future.
I will be really disappointed if on the final runway something isn't said by the "judges" about Wendy's character as it is portrayed on this show. I would be disappointed because if Wendy's behavior is NOT addressed, then to me as a complete lay-person, it would seem that it is acceptable by those in the "business." Is this the kind of behavior Michael Kors, Heidi Klum, and all the other judges really want to be associated with? After all, THEY did bring her along this far. She really does need to be knocked down a few notches. She's so arrogant for someone who's not even there, yet(?).
Right you are, fashion-challenged! It would be too bad if somehow she got a get-out-of-jail-free card. It doesn't matter that she doesn't design as well as K and J, but that she's such a beeatch about it all.
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If being a "[expletive deleted]" can get you where you want to be, what is wrong with that?
Do you really believe this? If no karmic judgment exists then, are you ready to practice this out in the world? Which do you prefer, honey or vinegar?
Totally right on! Great post, Gherk!
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Thank God, someone else noticed that Wendy exactly (color and all) copied Nancy O'Dell's cami shirt that she was wearing when she went to Parsons - Nancy hated the skirt (Wendy's "original") but loved the top THAT SHE WAS ALREADY WEARING. I am not a "Wendy hater" per se, however, I thought that was a horrible "win" - did anyone else see this??
Yes. When I rewatched the Grammy episode tonight I notice what O'Duh was wearing and it's very similar to what W designed. Also, luvinkpenz noticed that at the fabric store in the postal uniform epi there was an orange feather skirt with an orange halter top on display. Was it a coinky dinky that W also designed an orange feather skirt?
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Kara showed 7 out of 9 designs with the same neckline. One note samba, in my opinion.
Well, let's see. If we line up someone else's designs in a row, we see that Wendy has the same neckline in a lot of her challenges too.
Candy top = gathered bustline
Envy dress = gathered bustline
Wedding dress = gathered bustline
Bathing suit = gathered bustline
O'Dell dress = gathered bustline
Thanks to the folks over at fansofrealitytv.com, and whoever lined up Wendy's "creations" in a row. You guys got it goin' on!
Many of us saw that. Some people are still in denial which totally mystifies me! E
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If being a "[expletive deleted]" can get you where you want to be, what is wrong with that?
Do you really believe this? If no karmic judgment exists then, are you ready to practice this out in the world? Which do you prefer, honey or vinegar?
You completely lost me. I put a quote/unquote on the b-word, precisely because that is very subjective. I dont think Wendy is being a real [expletive deleted] (that word again, but I assume this is your idea of it) just because she is competitive, honest and transparent. I'd rather go for someone who tells you in your face, in front of everyone, what she thinks rather than someone who stabs you in your back.
Then she must be the only person on the red/green carpet that gives a hooey about NOT upstaging the talent. Everyone I see interviewing is as glamorous as the persons on camera. So I guess it was mission accomplished. She didnt stand out at all. You would have thought the judges would have clued her in. Causing Austin to be eliminated in favor of Wendy has REALLY MADE ME ILL! Not at all the outcome it really should have been. Tim, I Think you are great, love your 'Tims Take' I hope there is a PR II. Could I REALLY take it?????!~
She really did include that in her list of needs. I can't remember exactly how she said . . . not competing with the stars or something like that. But, she didn't want to be the fashion focus. She got her wish. E
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If being a "[expletive deleted]" can get you where you want to be, what is wrong with that?
Do you really believe this? If no karmic judgment exists then, are you ready to practice this out in the world? Which do you prefer, honey or vinegar?
You completely lost me. I put a quote/unquote on the b-word, precisely because that is very subjective. I dont think Wendy is being a real [expletive deleted] (that word again, but I assume this is your idea of it) just because she is competitive, honest and transparent. I'd rather go for someone who tells you in your face, in front of everyone, what she thinks rather than someone who stabs you in your back.
"Competitive, honest and transparent?" Wendy's whole riff was that she planned to (a) convey a false sense of camaraderie (mommy); (
steal if she thought she could get away with it (I'm not making this up); and © divide and conquer a la Survivor "tribalism" (see Episode One).From the start, Wendy confused competitive with cutthroat. The former is fair, the latter is pretty morally tainted. As for "upfront," if you're referring to the Runway ambushes, I hardly think that qualifies as "telling you to your face." I think that's a textbook example of "stabbing you in the back."
Am I the only one who thinks Jay follows Kara around like a puppy dog? Wendy can be bitchy, but I am tired of Kara always wagging her finger in peoples faces and telling others they "have no soul"... Jay and Kara behave like whiny kids, not adults in a competition. I cannot see them in the real business world with their attitudes. But I do like Kara's designs the best. I know I am going to get a lot of heat for this...but I predict that Wendy will win. The judges are looking for someone who can run a business, change according to the rules and behave like an adult. Also, I think all the designers had a great deal of talent. Actually my personal favorite was Austin...
It's amazing (& complete BS) that Wendy has made it to the final 3. She should have been out from the beginning - what she produced or the very lack there of for innovation was complete you know what! Daniel's piece was not appealing but at least it had some form of innovation - compare the 2 & I don't see how you could choose Wendy's candy add-on over Daniel's - it was ridiculous.
Wendy has won 2 major consumer challenges - the Banana 1 was well done (there were many good designs from that challenge & by far the most impressive outing from the majority) but the Nancy O'Dell Grammy win was outrageous! I know she picked it which was unfortunate & made me sick. She picked it solely for the color & bustline - both of which could have been tinkered with on a better design (Kara's & Jay's). Monochromatic orange just shows that Wendy is utterly dense when it comes to basic style & fashion (matching dyed shoes - come on people!!). Also, if you notice how Wendy has no brilliant ideas so she just adds/pieces things onto already basic wear or unfinished wear & the objects just hang there like tree ornaments - it's real real awful & makes my stomach churn (challenges for innovation, vision, swimsuit (she didn't even make a bottom?! - Martinique wore her own thong - where were the judges?! - she should have been completely out from this challenge), 2055 (youth outfit WAS a ball of yarn coughed up by a cat), USPS (no different from present uniform)
This show is supposedly about innovation, fresh style & ultimately what will sell/succeed in the fashion world & Wendy DOES NOT have what it takes. Austin, Alexandra & Kevin have it - their worst still were much better than Wendy's norm or even best overall. Furthermore, she is a snake & who wants to work w/ someone like that. Although there are many out there as it is, we don't need another one. It's truly ashame the talent that has been let go before Wendy - let's just keep our fingers crossed for Kara & Jay..
Wendy has won 2 major consumer challenges - the Banana 1 was well done (there were many good designs from that challenge & by far the most impressive outing from the majority) but the Nancy O'Dell Grammy win was outrageous! I know she picked it which was unfortunate & made me sick. She picked it solely for the color & bustline - both of which could have been tinkered with on a better design (Kara's & Jay's). Monochromatic orange just shows that Wendy is utterly dense when it comes to basic style & fashion (matching dyed shoes - come on people!!). Also, if you notice how Wendy has no brilliant ideas so she just adds/pieces things onto already basic wear or unfinished wear & the objects just hang there like tree ornaments - it's real real awful & makes my stomach churn (challenges for innovation, vision, swimsuit (she didn't even make a bottom?! - Martinique wore her own thong - where were the judges?! - she should have been completely out from this challenge), 2055 (youth outfit WAS a ball of yarn coughed up by a cat), USPS (no different from present uniform)
This show is supposedly about innovation, fresh style & ultimately what will sell/succeed in the fashion world & Wendy DOES NOT have what it takes. Austin, Alexandra & Kevin have it - their worst still were much better than Wendy's norm or even best overall. Furthermore, she is a snake & who wants to work w/ someone like that. Although there are many out there as it is, we don't need another one. It's truly ashame the talent that has been let go before Wendy - let's just keep our fingers crossed for Kara & Jay..
Also, Wendy stated more than once during the last competition that she loved to see these people squirm (referring to the other designers) and that she "could sit here all day" and watch them squirm while the judges were making their decision.
What the heck is to like about a personality like that? Watching people feel the pressure and enjoy their stress has NOTHING to due with the skills or visions of the others or even winning the "game." Not only does she not have much talent compared to the some of the others (have you seen her junk at her website?), she's just plain hateful and it's ugly! She really doesn't deserve to be where she is.
What the heck is to like about a personality like that? Watching people feel the pressure and enjoy their stress has NOTHING to due with the skills or visions of the others or even winning the "game." Not only does she not have much talent compared to the some of the others (have you seen her junk at her website?), she's just plain hateful and it's ugly! She really doesn't deserve to be where she is.
Man I can't stop. Another Wendy comment that really bothered me is her statement about seeing Kara Saun "in her rear view mirror" when asked about the chances of her (Wendy) winning the whole shabang in an interview clip.
WHY oh WHY does she want to win?! Is it to really show her talent and use this as an opportunity or stepping stone to bigger and better things or is it to empower her to thumb her nose up or spite other designers?
She's nasty.
WHY oh WHY does she want to win?! Is it to really show her talent and use this as an opportunity or stepping stone to bigger and better things or is it to empower her to thumb her nose up or spite other designers?
She's nasty.
Apologies if this has been posted before (and for bouncing off this particular post)!!
To this article, I say RIGHT ON!!!
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/p...six/wickedwendy
WICKED WENDY
1 hour, 1 minute ago Entertainment - PageSix Gossip/Celeb
By ADAM BUCKMAN
NOT that Wendy Pep per should care one way or another what I think, but I am praying for her to win it all on "Project Runway."
I crave nothing more than to see the looks on the faces of the two other finalists — sanctimonious Kara Saun, 37, and malicious Jay McCarroll, 29 — when the judges award the 39-year-old mom from Middleburg, Va., the show's grand prize in this Wednesday's two-hour finale (9 p.m. on Bravo).
She richly deserves it. Few reality-show participants have ever been as maligned as she has been over the course of this cutthroat series.
And, as she demonstrated last Wednesday, when she had mud flung at her from all sides during that bitchy reunion special, she can take the heat.
I'm certain her two co-finalists would have run crying to their mommas if they had been the ones under attack. Come to think of it, that's exactly what one of Wendy's more outspoken critics — the atrocious Vanessa Riley — did during the reunion show as soon as tart-tongued Jay aimed his venom at her.
Vanessa, who was the fourth contestant eliminated on the show, got up and ran from the room — not only a loser, but a sore one, just like most of the other nine losers whose design instincts were not sharp enough to get them to the finals.
Getting to the finals is one of the grand prizes on "Project Runway," the fashion-biz reality show spearheaded by supermodel Heidi Klum. For their final competition, the three surviving contestants were each invited to design a collection of 12 pieces and then mount a real fashion show for the industry, the press and the "Project Runway" judges on the opening morning of Fashion Week under the big tent in Bryant Park.
The winner also gets $100,000 in seed money to invest in his or her own business.
The fashion shows, which I was lucky enough to attend, were Feb. 4. Predictably, Jay and Kara were cheered wildly like the crowd favorites they are. Wendy received a more reserved style of polite applause, thanks probably to the way she has been portrayed as a villainess on the show.
It's an unfair portrayal because her alleged transgressions always seemed so slight — such as the time she grabbed a bolt of orange cloth that Kara was thinking of using.
The alleged hijacking took place in a Garment District fabric store, where, as most New Yorkers know, if you snooze, you lose. I'm siding with Wendy on this one — if Kara wanted that bolt so badly, she should have kept her hands on it.
Meanwhile, back at the fashion shows, Wendy stunned all her naysayers by putting on a knockout presentation. When it was over, it was clear she had just as much a chance of winning as Kara, the L.A. costume designer who most "Project Runway" fans are picking to win.
Wednesday's finale is all about the fashion shows and the four months of preparation that went into them. I've seen it (minus the announcement of the winner) and I won't spoil it by revealing anything that happens.
However, I can tell you it is a hell of a TV show.
To this article, I say RIGHT ON!!!
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/p...six/wickedwendy
WICKED WENDY
1 hour, 1 minute ago Entertainment - PageSix Gossip/Celeb
By ADAM BUCKMAN
NOT that Wendy Pep per should care one way or another what I think, but I am praying for her to win it all on "Project Runway."
I crave nothing more than to see the looks on the faces of the two other finalists — sanctimonious Kara Saun, 37, and malicious Jay McCarroll, 29 — when the judges award the 39-year-old mom from Middleburg, Va., the show's grand prize in this Wednesday's two-hour finale (9 p.m. on Bravo).
She richly deserves it. Few reality-show participants have ever been as maligned as she has been over the course of this cutthroat series.
And, as she demonstrated last Wednesday, when she had mud flung at her from all sides during that bitchy reunion special, she can take the heat.
I'm certain her two co-finalists would have run crying to their mommas if they had been the ones under attack. Come to think of it, that's exactly what one of Wendy's more outspoken critics — the atrocious Vanessa Riley — did during the reunion show as soon as tart-tongued Jay aimed his venom at her.
Vanessa, who was the fourth contestant eliminated on the show, got up and ran from the room — not only a loser, but a sore one, just like most of the other nine losers whose design instincts were not sharp enough to get them to the finals.
Getting to the finals is one of the grand prizes on "Project Runway," the fashion-biz reality show spearheaded by supermodel Heidi Klum. For their final competition, the three surviving contestants were each invited to design a collection of 12 pieces and then mount a real fashion show for the industry, the press and the "Project Runway" judges on the opening morning of Fashion Week under the big tent in Bryant Park.
The winner also gets $100,000 in seed money to invest in his or her own business.
The fashion shows, which I was lucky enough to attend, were Feb. 4. Predictably, Jay and Kara were cheered wildly like the crowd favorites they are. Wendy received a more reserved style of polite applause, thanks probably to the way she has been portrayed as a villainess on the show.
It's an unfair portrayal because her alleged transgressions always seemed so slight — such as the time she grabbed a bolt of orange cloth that Kara was thinking of using.
The alleged hijacking took place in a Garment District fabric store, where, as most New Yorkers know, if you snooze, you lose. I'm siding with Wendy on this one — if Kara wanted that bolt so badly, she should have kept her hands on it.
Meanwhile, back at the fashion shows, Wendy stunned all her naysayers by putting on a knockout presentation. When it was over, it was clear she had just as much a chance of winning as Kara, the L.A. costume designer who most "Project Runway" fans are picking to win.
Wednesday's finale is all about the fashion shows and the four months of preparation that went into them. I've seen it (minus the announcement of the winner) and I won't spoil it by revealing anything that happens.
However, I can tell you it is a hell of a TV show.
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Also, Wendy stated more than once during the last competition that she loved to see these people squirm (referring to the other designers) and that she "could sit here all day" and watch them squirm while the judges were making their decision.
The true irony of that is that she enjoyed their anxiety because they had "made her life difficult."
Flashback to Episode One where Wendy was setting up her "tribe" -- the three roommates plus her that would stick together and the hell with the other eight! Flashback to Episode Two where Wendy said she'd ingratiate herself as mommy to any and everyone, to gain their confidence, so as to best exploit their vulnerabilities. So much for the tribe! I think the "tribe" idea evaporated as soon as she saw one of her roommates (Austin) had designing chops she never dreamt of.
I can only wonder how her daugher is being teased at school now as having the bad witch Wendy as her mom!
Allan Buckman's review is the first positive one I've read re Wendy's FS designs. Anybody know of any others? E
Sorry to jump on a Wendy thread...it's hard when the threads are all thrown together...but I think alot is missed too by not viewing the episodes in their original context. For example, the promos for this weeks show (the finale) may not make it into the actual episode itself. So unless you're like a QE fan or watch Bravo alot for other reasons, and didn't see the promos of the episodes as they ran, you would have missed a lot there too imho vs. seeing just the episodes themselves in the marathons. Oh well.
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