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I don't care what anyone says, Wendy defaced that photo herself. Her goal was to win at any cost. She does not seem to be the type of woman who would 'lose it' over one little photo. Who, going into an unknown situation, would bring their best of anything, where anything could happen to it. Furthermore, did you notice the smug look she had when they were discussing it at the reunion show? I believe she did it to create sympathy for herself and to get an edge on her competition. I think she would try anything that she felt would work.
We'll probably never know. But my question is this: Did Wendy walk in that room with both barrels blazing (or weeping), or
Did she walk in the room and ask if anyone knew anything about it? Because the way it was shown, it seems she walked in with the assumption that one of the other three people in the room MUST have done this.
Based on what? All post-drama speculation aside, what made Wendy go in there and accuse her remaining colleagues of doing that? Particularly since now there seems to be speculation about the previously ousted, specifically Kevin and Morgan. (Kevin I don't buy; Morgan MAYBE. I think it was a PR inside job, if not Wendy herself in a famewhore gutter moment.)
The fact that this became such a brou-ha-ha is slightly suspicious in hindsight. If Kevin/Morgan are the prime suspects, why the lashout at Austin, Jay, Kara and Rob?? Riddle me this, please!
Did she walk in the room and ask if anyone knew anything about it? Because the way it was shown, it seems she walked in with the assumption that one of the other three people in the room MUST have done this.
Based on what? All post-drama speculation aside, what made Wendy go in there and accuse her remaining colleagues of doing that? Particularly since now there seems to be speculation about the previously ousted, specifically Kevin and Morgan. (Kevin I don't buy; Morgan MAYBE. I think it was a PR inside job, if not Wendy herself in a famewhore gutter moment.)
The fact that this became such a brou-ha-ha is slightly suspicious in hindsight. If Kevin/Morgan are the prime suspects, why the lashout at Austin, Jay, Kara and Rob?? Riddle me this, please!
I just wanted to say how much appreciation I have for Tim Gunn and the work he has done on the show... I hope for Wendy’s sake he helps on the final episode (wait I take that back stay away from sure failure Tim!!!)... Speaking of Wendy, I think her designs reflect her personality: cheap, bored and incomplete... take your skunk-haired-back-stabbing self back to the fabric section at wal-mart so you can sew little hick girls their prom dresses... well I feel better! I REALLY DO LOVE YOU TIM!!!!
I feel better. I thought I was the only one who thought this about Wendy. When it first happened I thought that. When Vanessa said that, Wendy did look a bit guilty. And I wouldn't put it past her. I would kind of like to take a Magnum Marker and wipe that smug smerk off her face :-). Opps. You know those markers you can wipe off boards? They work Okay on tv screens!! (hint hint) But who knows. Who ever did it will have to live with the karma.
Don't get angry--but Austin looked a tad guilty the way he blew it off and said it was done in a fit of extreme anger (paraphrasing). Then he deemed it not even worthy of discussion after Jay expressed such distress over the situation. And if it was him, the karma already caught up with him. :-(
The producers knew how to push the "drama button" with the Wendy-thing. They really got lucky that some one always disappointed more than she did each week. It says right in the disclaimer that the decision of who stays is based on the judges scores and input from the producers. ;-) You all must admit--it was totally juicy television. We all waited for Wendy to get booted and gasped when she didn't. If she wins I hope I have ant-acids and a bucket handy. :::shudders at the thought::::
Don't get angry--but Austin looked a tad guilty the way he blew it off and said it was done in a fit of extreme anger (paraphrasing). Then he deemed it not even worthy of discussion after Jay expressed such distress over the situation. And if it was him, the karma already caught up with him. :-(
The producers knew how to push the "drama button" with the Wendy-thing. They really got lucky that some one always disappointed more than she did each week. It says right in the disclaimer that the decision of who stays is based on the judges scores and input from the producers. ;-) You all must admit--it was totally juicy television. We all waited for Wendy to get booted and gasped when she didn't. If she wins I hope I have ant-acids and a bucket handy. :::shudders at the thought::::
Thanks for the info on the clothes being auctioned through PR. Very worthy cause--I donated a lot of clothes to that charity when my size fluctuated ;-). I will check it out. The Wendy info too--that is hillarious no one has bid on her eBay items--but not surprising. Greedy "female canine" that she is not donating the proceeds after what she has gotten out of the show.
I hope her "children" never see her on this show and hear her say the "F" word (bleeped) three times in the same sentence. And what makes her so special because she had kids and the others didn't?? So we are supposed to think even a mom can realize her dream at 40 of being a world-class fashion designer? Not the way she did it.
I hope her "children" never see her on this show and hear her say the "F" word (bleeped) three times in the same sentence. And what makes her so special because she had kids and the others didn't?? So we are supposed to think even a mom can realize her dream at 40 of being a world-class fashion designer? Not the way she did it.
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I totally agree, I am a counselor by profession and think I read people's body language and subtext pretty well. Austin indeed sat quietly while everyone raged over Wendy's picture. My feeling is that he thought the other anti-Wendy designers thought the gag would be funny. When he found out how disgusted everyone was, he had his tail between his legs. I think Austin is great, but I also think he is guilty!
I 100% agree. I thought it was quite obvious by his mannerisms and what he said "uncontrolled anger" and it "wasn't worth talking about anymore", that he did it. The only other possibility is that it was one of the models, and he witnessed it.
I think she very well may have. I can't eliminate her as a suspect. But she isn't the only one, either. I couldn't find her guilty "beyond a reasonable doubt" so I'm open to some evidence.
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Although there is no question that Wendy has personality issues, on viewing the marathon yesterday and seeing the cumulative thread of the designers' personalities, I've developed a new view of all of them. Wendy has had to fight the "housewife from Virginia" label throughout and possibly has overreacted in her need to prove herself as a "real" designer. In addition, in the "bashing Kevin" incident, I feel Wendy was bulldozed into making her statement. Furthermore, the evidence from the workshop footage supports what she said, and the others suddenly brown-nosing by saying what a good teamwork experience the 2055 collection was struck me as out-and-out lying and an attempt to make themselves look good and Wendy look bad.
Kara Saun's self-righteousness also began to grate on me as it built up over the course of the series.
Finally, I think Vanessa needs professional psychiatric help. Even Wendy looks charming by comparison.
Kara Saun's self-righteousness also began to grate on me as it built up over the course of the series.
Finally, I think Vanessa needs professional psychiatric help. Even Wendy looks charming by comparison.
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Finally, I think Vanessa needs professional psychiatric help.
Or thirty days in rehab.
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Finally, I think Vanessa needs professional psychiatric help.
Or thirty days in rehab.
Ah, but is 30 days anywhere near enough?
Notice how when they were all sitting around, Keven never denied it.
I don't think Kevin has the guts or the gumption to have "done the deed." I don't know if she still had access to the workroom, but if she did, I'd point the finger at Morgan. After all, Wendy was ultimately responsible for her elimination, and Morgan is just the kind of immature, drama queen personality to have pulled a childish stunt like marking the picture.
I watched the PR marathon yesterday while working in my studio . . . seeing all of the episodes back-to-back was somewhat surreal . . . even though I had seen these episodes before, I saw something new in each of them . . . after the Grammy dress episode, I watched the reunion show again (I'm really glad I had it on tape) . . . Here are some of my thoughts
Vanessa has probably done more to hurt herself professionally than anyone can imagine . . . she was so bitter in the reunion episode . . . more than that, were all of the video clips of her drunk . . . Who wants to go to a designer like that?
I thought Nora was pretty classy when she said that she really appreciated the opportunity despite being made to look like a childish brat . . . plus, I thought her imitations of the other participants was hysterical . . . and some were dead-on
I was glad to see Starr rested and smiling . . . and I hope she finds a career as an attorney specializing in the fashion industry
Daniel and Mario seem to have chips on their shoulders . . . although, I probably would too if I had lost so early in the show and Wendy made it to the final three. I would really like to see more of what Daniel can do . . . and hope someday Mario develops a better work ethic . . . He put in a minimal amount of work before saying "I'm done." . . . Almost as though, being first done is more important than doing a quality design.
Rob and Alexandra didn't seem to say much . . . but, they were both looking hotter than ever.
Kara and Jay both came off with a harder edge than I'm use to . . . although, when I keep in mind that they were days away from their debut at Fashion Week and probably tired, stressed out . . . and sick and tired of Wendy and her "strategizing" . . . I find it more understandable . . . I think there's a lot of history bubbling up there that we haven't seen
Kevin's behavior seemed suspicious . . . although, he's always had a somewhat distracted look to him . . . as though he's thinking a whole lot more than he's sharing . . . but, the biting of his lower lip when confronted with the moustache on the picture seemed odd . . . I just hope he gets the continued opportunity to design . . . but, that he has people that will handle business, interaction with others, etc.
Austin . . . I love love this guy! I can really respect his unapologetic demeanor for staying true to himself and designing "Austin Scarlett" glamour . . . I'm really looking forward to seeing what his future has in store.
Wendy . . . what is with red shoes for this woman???!!! For someone in fashion, she just can't pull it together for herself . . . I can understand being less than stylish in the workroom, but for an appearance on a television show . . . Good grief! Kind of reminds me of the friend of mine that hooked up with a certified financial planner that had just filed for personal bankruptcy or the dentist I went to (once) that had terrible dental hygiene himself . . . Professional appearance and persona are so important and this woman just doesn't get it . . . Just because your a 40-year old mom, doesn't mean you have to look like one . . . I think she's going to be a "Where are they now?" blurb fairly quickly . . . as has-been already.
Vanessa has probably done more to hurt herself professionally than anyone can imagine . . . she was so bitter in the reunion episode . . . more than that, were all of the video clips of her drunk . . . Who wants to go to a designer like that?
I thought Nora was pretty classy when she said that she really appreciated the opportunity despite being made to look like a childish brat . . . plus, I thought her imitations of the other participants was hysterical . . . and some were dead-on
I was glad to see Starr rested and smiling . . . and I hope she finds a career as an attorney specializing in the fashion industry
Daniel and Mario seem to have chips on their shoulders . . . although, I probably would too if I had lost so early in the show and Wendy made it to the final three. I would really like to see more of what Daniel can do . . . and hope someday Mario develops a better work ethic . . . He put in a minimal amount of work before saying "I'm done." . . . Almost as though, being first done is more important than doing a quality design.
Rob and Alexandra didn't seem to say much . . . but, they were both looking hotter than ever.
Kara and Jay both came off with a harder edge than I'm use to . . . although, when I keep in mind that they were days away from their debut at Fashion Week and probably tired, stressed out . . . and sick and tired of Wendy and her "strategizing" . . . I find it more understandable . . . I think there's a lot of history bubbling up there that we haven't seen
Kevin's behavior seemed suspicious . . . although, he's always had a somewhat distracted look to him . . . as though he's thinking a whole lot more than he's sharing . . . but, the biting of his lower lip when confronted with the moustache on the picture seemed odd . . . I just hope he gets the continued opportunity to design . . . but, that he has people that will handle business, interaction with others, etc.
Austin . . . I love love this guy! I can really respect his unapologetic demeanor for staying true to himself and designing "Austin Scarlett" glamour . . . I'm really looking forward to seeing what his future has in store.
Wendy . . . what is with red shoes for this woman???!!! For someone in fashion, she just can't pull it together for herself . . . I can understand being less than stylish in the workroom, but for an appearance on a television show . . . Good grief! Kind of reminds me of the friend of mine that hooked up with a certified financial planner that had just filed for personal bankruptcy or the dentist I went to (once) that had terrible dental hygiene himself . . . Professional appearance and persona are so important and this woman just doesn't get it . . . Just because your a 40-year old mom, doesn't mean you have to look like one . . . I think she's going to be a "Where are they now?" blurb fairly quickly . . . as has-been already.
I believe he did. He was silent at first while Heidi/Tim put the issue right to him, but he answered.
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Venessa's the one who walked out of the sit-down the other night right? She's a poor loser and really has a problem getting along with others. I supppose, like a dog, she was never socialized as a child. She really came off as mean, rude and nasty. You see, attitude counts in the creative process. Bitches get eliminated. Judges see through that, even in their work.
Well said, I couldn't agree with you more. Bravo to you!!!!
does anyone know if there is a second season planned and how would I find out about auditions? Costume designer from indianapolis here
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Venessa's the one who walked out of the sit-down the other night right? I supppose, like a dog, she was never socialized as a child.
What the ...? Are you serious? Or is this like you said in a previous post that Wendy's biggest sin was being from the South?
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She really came off as mean, rude and nasty. You see, attitude counts in the creative process. Bitches get eliminated. Judges see through that, even in their work.
Wendy didn't get eliminated. (Dammit anyway!)
[ Who are you to presume you know where the hundreds of people who are posting here are coming from?
WHO the HELL are YOU?
Wendy.
WHO the HELL are YOU?
Wendy.
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Who are you to say "Wendy is a horrible person" - do you know her personally?
One doesn't need to know her personally. While editing may have chosen what of Wendy to show, the fact that they had any of that footage to begin with shows a significant side of Wendy's personality. I don't care what conditions they were working under, if you can't control yourself with a camera on you, then you're probably trying to suppress a significant character flaw. While we may not have seen "all" of Wendy, what was saw *was* Wendy. The fact that Wendy purposely confessed to her strategy and admitted her behavior says a lot. She is unrepentant. In fact, rather proud. She may consider it a strength, but I see it as a significant weakness. If I were a in business, I would not want to work with someone like that. And in business it's not always about talent....it's about how you get along with your colleagues. Wendy has shown repeatedly she is not a team player and does not collaborate well.
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And, by the way, can you create a unique design on a very tight dollar & time budget?
Yes, I can. They'd not only look as good or better than what Wendy came up with, but they'd also be constructed better. Nothing I make falls apart.
And no, I don't think Kara was out to sabotage Jay. She didn't need to. She was honestly trying to help. And even Jay says he liked the top a lot better after he altered it. I personally didn't find any problem with it. However....he didn't listen to Nancy O'Dell's distaste for all things pink, especially fuschia. Had he chosen a different pallet, he might have had a chance. As had Kara had she lost the pants as per Tim's suggestion.
BTW I have tremendous respect for Tim. "Wendy's not really a fashion designer," says Tim Gunn, a chair at Parsons School of Design and the contestants' beloved on-camera counselor. "She's probably great with a Simplicity pattern, but I wouldn't leave her to her own devices."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6998851/site/newsweek/
If anyone knows, he should know.
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"Wendy's not really a fashion designer," says Tim Gunn, a chair at Parsons School of Design and the contestants' beloved on-camera counselor. "She's probably great with a Simplicity pattern, but I wouldn't leave her to her own devices."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6998851/site/newsweek/
If anyone knows, he should know.
I find it interesting that in Tim's interview he was asked which designer he would prefer to have make a suit for him and he replied that it would be Kevin. When Heidi was on The View with the 3 finalists she was wearing a Kevin Johnn. Kevin had a runway show at FW outside of the realm of PR and supposedly received great reviews (don't know if this is true since I haven't read anything but have heard this is the case.)
Doesn't this whole thing smell like a set-up?
Here's what I find strange... If someone wanted to really get to Wendy by defacing the picture, why such a half-hearted attempt? Why just a moustache? Why not horns and a tail? Why not really destroy the damn picture? That would have been worthy of the drama, not some sad little moustache that barely defaces her little girl's picture. It's just that the actual defacing doesn't match the malice that the act is supposed to represent. It's almost like someone decided what degree of screwing around with the picture would be enough to keep things stirred up but not get the viewers screaming for everyone's head.
Here's what I find strange... If someone wanted to really get to Wendy by defacing the picture, why such a half-hearted attempt? Why just a moustache? Why not horns and a tail? Why not really destroy the damn picture? That would have been worthy of the drama, not some sad little moustache that barely defaces her little girl's picture. It's just that the actual defacing doesn't match the malice that the act is supposed to represent. It's almost like someone decided what degree of screwing around with the picture would be enough to keep things stirred up but not get the viewers screaming for everyone's head.
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Doesn't this whole thing smell like a set-up?
Here's what I find strange... If someone wanted to really get to Wendy by defacing the picture, why such a half-hearted attempt? Why just a moustache? Why not horns and a tail? Why not really destroy the damn picture? That would have been worthy of the drama, not some sad little moustache that barely defaces her little girl's picture. It's just that the actual defacing doesn't match the malice that the act is supposed to represent. It's almost like someone decided what degree of screwing around with the picture would be enough to keep things stirred up but not get the viewers screaming for everyone's head.
That's an interesting thought. I couldn't understand that no one saw it as a Hitler moustache, as a comment on the "spawn of Wendy" but yeah someone might have made a lame effort for some other reason, be it as a Bravo staffer or Wendy herself. I bet Bravo knows and that fact says they got a reason to not reveal the truth.
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Austin . . . I love love this guy! I can really respect his unapologetic demeanor for staying true to himself and designing "Austin Scarlett" glamour . . . I'm really looking forward to seeing what his future has in store.
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Austin . . . I love love this guy! I can really respect his unapologetic demeanor for staying true to himself and designing "Austin Scarlett" glamour . . . I'm really looking forward to seeing what his future has in store.
Austin is adorable. More than that, he's a class act. Witness: He wept to the depths of his sensitivity when Vanessa was cut. He was Jay's model for the postal uniform competition, and, when asked, said "He was in a bind; I'm sure he'd do the same for me." And, most telling, as his Project Runway future was cut at the knees in the Grammy competition, he had the heart to hug Wendy -- and not some perfunctory "mwah, mwah" kissy-kissy glam-chic crapola, but a graciousness that surpassed the bitchiness of the Wendy-biting scene. Okay, yeah, maybe he's a little "too" couture. But his work is lovely, and so is his soul. He's a winner.
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Classic example of mass hysteria amoung young, narcissistic boarderline personalities who pack together against a common enemy...this, of course brings spice to an otherwise boring show. Wendy is simply honest inasmuch as she want's to win and to hell with socializing with this needy, over pampered bunch of titty babies. Go Wendy, it takes, I'm sure lots of stamina to stay around these energy suckers............... I really see alot of junior high school especially in Kara, Austin and Jay. They are so quick to condemn Wendy because she is different. The kids need to grow up and see the real world. Remember, Wendy is honest about her intentions, the rest of them are nicey nice to each other but the game is still the same, and the purpose is to WIN AT ALL COSTS....C'mon anyone with a mature brain sees through ALL OF THE hypocrites.
You know, Wendy alienated herself. It's not like all the other designers were like, "Eeeewww. Wendy's old and weird and a MOM! Let's hate her!" The only one playing junior high is Wendy.
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I've only watched about 5-6 episodes of this show. Tonight, when the subject of "drawing on the picture" came up, I could not believe the general immaturity of this group! Frankly, Wendy is the only one who designed anything a real person could ever wear! Most of that "ripped up," "wrapped-around," ranchy-looking crap wasn't fit for ANYONE to wear! This begs the question: WHO exactly are these kids (well, they sure act like kids!) designing for?! Hopefully, it's for their own "self expression" and some sort of deluded sense they have of themselves as "artists"!! I hope Wendy wins so she can leave the rest of those little BRATS wallowing in their jealous stupidity!
What show are you watching? Wendy is the brat in her jealous stupidity. Just because she's 40, like a lot of viewers doesn't mean she's the angel to identify with.
SEASON 2 FOR 'RUNWAY' IN DOUBT
By DON KAPLAN
'PROJECT Runway" may get snipped from Bravo's lineup, despite becoming a hit this season.
The second season of the popular cable show — which follows a group of designers competing for a big-bucks contract to produce a line of apparel — is in jeopardy because of the expected split between Miramax, the studio that produces it, and Disney.
While it is clear that Bravo wants to renew the show, there is currently no deal in place because TV executives are not sure who will have the rights to "Project" next year: Disney or Miramax.
"It is our heartfelt intent to be able to go to season two," Bravo president Lauren Zalaznick told the industry trade magazine Mediaweek. "But nothing is a given."
Producers "still need to figure out how they can cast another season of the show and come up with a different set of challenges," she said.
The real challenge may ultimately be sorting out who actually owns the show.
Miramax chiefs Bob and Harvey Weinstein have employment deals with Disney through September 2005, according to published reports.
At the moment, when those agreements end, Disney is believed to have the option of keeping the rights to some or all of Miramax's properties, including "Project Runway," unless the studio chiefs are able to renegotiate.
Whether the Weinsteins or Disney walk away with the rights to the show remains to be seen.
A network source told The Post yesterday, "We are looking at it from every angle," and that the likelihood of a Disney/Miramax split "has nothing to do with the situation [of renewing the show]."
Calls to Miramax were not returned yesterday.
Tomorrow's two-hour "Runway" finale will feature a showdown between the show's three finalists: kooky comedian Jay McCarroll, 29, Air Force brat Kara Saun, 37, and ruthless, conniving designer Wendy Pepper, 39.
The winner, announced during the finale, will get a photo spread in Elle and $100,000 to launch a clothing line.
http://www.nypost.com/php/pfriendly/pfriendly_new.php
By DON KAPLAN
'PROJECT Runway" may get snipped from Bravo's lineup, despite becoming a hit this season.
The second season of the popular cable show — which follows a group of designers competing for a big-bucks contract to produce a line of apparel — is in jeopardy because of the expected split between Miramax, the studio that produces it, and Disney.
While it is clear that Bravo wants to renew the show, there is currently no deal in place because TV executives are not sure who will have the rights to "Project" next year: Disney or Miramax.
"It is our heartfelt intent to be able to go to season two," Bravo president Lauren Zalaznick told the industry trade magazine Mediaweek. "But nothing is a given."
Producers "still need to figure out how they can cast another season of the show and come up with a different set of challenges," she said.
The real challenge may ultimately be sorting out who actually owns the show.
Miramax chiefs Bob and Harvey Weinstein have employment deals with Disney through September 2005, according to published reports.
At the moment, when those agreements end, Disney is believed to have the option of keeping the rights to some or all of Miramax's properties, including "Project Runway," unless the studio chiefs are able to renegotiate.
Whether the Weinsteins or Disney walk away with the rights to the show remains to be seen.
A network source told The Post yesterday, "We are looking at it from every angle," and that the likelihood of a Disney/Miramax split "has nothing to do with the situation [of renewing the show]."
Calls to Miramax were not returned yesterday.
Tomorrow's two-hour "Runway" finale will feature a showdown between the show's three finalists: kooky comedian Jay McCarroll, 29, Air Force brat Kara Saun, 37, and ruthless, conniving designer Wendy Pepper, 39.
The winner, announced during the finale, will get a photo spread in Elle and $100,000 to launch a clothing line.
http://www.nypost.com/php/pfriendly/pfriendly_new.php
I thoroughly enjoyed watching the marathon on Sunday. I found it very interesting that, although I only missed two of the shows originally, I hadn't caught on to how much everyone changed and their interactions changed as the show went forward. When watched in retrospect, I never realized how sugary sweet Wendy was in the beginning, and to know now that later on she turned into such a conniving worm made the early episodes even more interesting.
I'm so glad that Austin gets to be in the Fashion Week show. Here's to a win for either Kara or Jay. Someone mentioned earlier that Wendy is the only one designing things that "regular" women would wear. Isn't that true of all runway shows? Most of the things shown on them would not be worn by "regular" women; they are meant to show a very wide variety of way-out-there styles. If they were only showing "regular woman" clothes the shows would be really borning. I can go to Penneys and look at "regular woman" clothes any day or night.
I'm glad Bravo is running the finale back to back to back on Wednesday night because for one reason or another I can't see the entire two hours at one sitting.
By the way, I am a 58-year-old mom originally from Virginia and I hope I have never gone out in public looking as disheaveled and frumpy as Wendy does on the show.
Thanks, posters, for this thoroughly enjoyable thread.
I'm so glad that Austin gets to be in the Fashion Week show. Here's to a win for either Kara or Jay. Someone mentioned earlier that Wendy is the only one designing things that "regular" women would wear. Isn't that true of all runway shows? Most of the things shown on them would not be worn by "regular" women; they are meant to show a very wide variety of way-out-there styles. If they were only showing "regular woman" clothes the shows would be really borning. I can go to Penneys and look at "regular woman" clothes any day or night.
I'm glad Bravo is running the finale back to back to back on Wednesday night because for one reason or another I can't see the entire two hours at one sitting.
By the way, I am a 58-year-old mom originally from Virginia and I hope I have never gone out in public looking as disheaveled and frumpy as Wendy does on the show.
Thanks, posters, for this thoroughly enjoyable thread.
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SEASON 2 FOR 'RUNWAY' IN DOUBT
By DON KAPLAN
'PROJECT Runway" may get snipped from Bravo's lineup, despite becoming a hit this season.
http://www.nypost.com/php/pfriendly/pfriendly_new.php
the show deserves to be dropped for allowing wendy to get to the final three while kevin, austin, and that pratt chick (forgot her name ) got cut. (though i hope it isn't dropped.)
maybe the producers thought the show would be more interesting with a scheming backbiter type like wendy in the mix, but to me what was the most interesting was seeing the designers face and meet the challenges, and seeing what they came up with in the end, i.e., CREATIVITY. what other show offers such glimpses into the genuine creative process? none that i know of. that's worth more than a conniving, sniveling villian in my book.
"pratt chick" = nora. sorry. alexandra was also interesting (
) - i would have liked to have seen more designs from either one of them than week after week of frumpy ... i mean, wendy. 
) - i would have liked to have seen more designs from either one of them than week after week of frumpy ... i mean, wendy.
In talking to my friends, I had an epiphany. Wendy is Cruella de Vil - the white streak in the hair et. al. Do you think her daughter mentioned it which made her change her looks for the final?
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In talking to my friends, I had an epiphany. Wendy is Cruella de Vil - the white streak in the hair et. al. Do you think her daughter mentioned it which made her change her looks for the final?
Nope. I think she's been reading these forums and when the Cruella de Ville analogy showed up she immediately decided to redo her hair. Although nothing much can be done for her fashion sense. On the reunion show it looked like she was trying, but basically she still looked pretty frumpy. Let's face it, a designer markets themself every where they go and should never be seen in public let alone on television looking like Wendy does. She isn't advertising her talent (what little there is.) And because of that, to me, from the very first episode she always stuck out like a sore thumb.
You may be right - I know that I would not have gone sleeveless.....As to your point about image - I saw Kevin on the subway the other day - he looks exactly as he does on the show - kind of the eclectic designer, but, he definitly seemed like a hip designer.
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You may be right - I know that I would not have gone sleeveless.....As to your point about image - I saw Kevin on the subway the other day - he looks exactly as he does on the show - kind of the eclectic designer, but, he definitly seemed like a hip designer.
You should tell this to nabakov5 on the designers board. She is a huge, possibly his #1 fan!
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I've only watched about 5-6 episodes of this show. Tonight, when the subject of "drawing on the picture" came up, I could not believe the general immaturity of this group! Frankly, Wendy is the only one who designed anything a real person could ever wear! Most of that "ripped up," "wrapped-around," ranchy-looking crap wasn't fit for ANYONE to wear! This begs the question: WHO exactly are these kids (well, they sure act like kids!) designing for?! Hopefully, it's for their own "self expression" and some sort of deluded sense they have of themselves as "artists"!! I hope Wendy wins so she can leave the rest of those little BRATS wallowing in their jealous stupidity!
What show are you watching? Wendy is the brat in her jealous stupidity. Just because she's 40, like a lot of viewers doesn't mean she's the angel to identify with.
Normally I just read the posting but I just have to join in here.
First - Age:
Wendy, Kevin and Kara all all about the same age, 37 - 40 is not that big of difference. So using Wendy's age as a some sort of reason for anything is just ridiculous. She decided that she was going to use any means that she could to win - even if that meant messing with the others minds - I believe she even says this to the camera. The others have all seemed to be content to do their best on the challenges and let their work speak for itself. And honestly the only "BRAT" has been Wendy, everyone else has tried to get along even when someone else was standing on their last nerve.
Second - The Picture
If this picture was "one of a kind" why not keep it at home where it would be "safe." Why wasn't it in a frame? Are you telling me that traveling with an unframed, one of kind picture is a smart move? The picture is going to get beat up just in the traveling and sitting it on a "Work" table isn't the brightest idea either. If it meant that much to her she should have taken better care of it! I also don't think that Kevin drew on it, I do think that he was surprised that Heidi blamed him on TV and aren't there cameras in that room, so should BRAVO know who did it?
And last - Wendy's talent
Does she have any? I personally think that they should have booted her at the swim suit challenge - her suit had no bottom. I think that they have kept Wendy because she is the one that doesn't get along with anybody else.
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And last - Wendy's talent
Does she have any? I personally think that they should have booted her at the swim suit challenge - her suit had no bottom. I think that they have kept Wendy because she is the one that doesn't get along with anybody else.
You know, this was the first time I thought the judging was inconsistent and so influenced by the producers, and not the judges. I mean, Wendy's suit didn't even have a bottom, and Alexandra didn't sell her suit well enough. Jay's was called "Gucci-esque" but Alexandra's was dubbed a copy, and was eliminated. It seemed that right then, they were reaching for a reason to keep Wendy in the show.
Part of me agrees with you but please explain to me how the designers would display their work. Runway models are a stanard size and given the models on the show, I don't see how any of the designers could possible design for plus size women when the models are tall and thin. The clothes wouldn't fit the models, so you should be asking why there aren't any plus size models on the show. And I think you already know the answer to that question.
Wendy's Grammy design looked like a throwback to the 60's. I expected her model to start doing the Twist at any moment. No wonder Nancy O'Dell preferred Wendy's design. Did you see what she wore at the last Grammys?
Time to make predictions on the final show. After watching the series again this past weekend I am convinced Wendy wins.
It all goes back to the Banana Republic Challenge, once she won that, she became a favorate of the show's sponsor.
This was confirmed the week of the bathing suit challenge when should did not even provide the most fundamental piece to a swim suit. (the bottom) It was so bad the model did not wear it. Though the judges have called her work dowdy all she will have to do is bump up the style a little and she will meet the main stream needs of the fashion judges and sell "Her Collection"
It all goes back to the Banana Republic Challenge, once she won that, she became a favorate of the show's sponsor.
This was confirmed the week of the bathing suit challenge when should did not even provide the most fundamental piece to a swim suit. (the bottom) It was so bad the model did not wear it. Though the judges have called her work dowdy all she will have to do is bump up the style a little and she will meet the main stream needs of the fashion judges and sell "Her Collection"
I saw the tail end of the marathon on Sunday, when they had six and now down to three.
To be honest I know next to nothign about fashion, yet I have to say I was hooked by this show. And impressed with what these folks have been doing. In some ways it reminds me of architecture school, working en charette, and showing your work to a jury (in this case it was judges) and getting a critique from them.
I particularly liked that post office uniform redesign show. Neat that the USPS would play along with this. As for the designs...well...the uniform could use it, no? (polyester in the summer..ugh). But some designs were pretty way-out. Wendys..well...it was sort of dated (yet she was pretty close to a pratical redesign). I really liked the utility belt concept that I think Kara had.
I am absolutley going to see the last episdoes this Wednsday. Who's my favorite...well, not Wendy, and its more due to her designs, not her personality. They are a bit blah. I like Kara's work the best, but Jay has a great fun fashion sense too. ..oddly more in how he himself dresses.
This show was alot of fun and really gave me an appreciation of the this field...and how its a craft, a buisness, and an art. The judges where great too..you can tell they are all having a lot of fun with this show.
To be honest I know next to nothign about fashion, yet I have to say I was hooked by this show. And impressed with what these folks have been doing. In some ways it reminds me of architecture school, working en charette, and showing your work to a jury (in this case it was judges) and getting a critique from them.
I particularly liked that post office uniform redesign show. Neat that the USPS would play along with this. As for the designs...well...the uniform could use it, no? (polyester in the summer..ugh). But some designs were pretty way-out. Wendys..well...it was sort of dated (yet she was pretty close to a pratical redesign). I really liked the utility belt concept that I think Kara had.
I am absolutley going to see the last episdoes this Wednsday. Who's my favorite...well, not Wendy, and its more due to her designs, not her personality. They are a bit blah. I like Kara's work the best, but Jay has a great fun fashion sense too. ..oddly more in how he himself dresses.
This show was alot of fun and really gave me an appreciation of the this field...and how its a craft, a buisness, and an art. The judges where great too..you can tell they are all having a lot of fun with this show.
The NY media reported that the last four designers showed their work during fashion week - that must be why Austin handled his elimination so well.
I think that Jay will win based on the response to his work in the NY press
I think that Jay will win based on the response to his work in the NY press
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The NY media reported that the last four designers showed their work during fashion week - that must be why Austin handled his elimination so well.
I think that Jay will win based on the response to his work in the NY press
I don't know....the show was taped filed in August, and the first episode aired on December 1...so I doubt there was any intention of Austin getting a runway show at FW until the broadcast schedule SNAFU that put the "final" on the air AFTER Fashion Week. Thus they needed Austin (as one of the final four) in order to keep the secret of the actual final three alive until air date. They failed anyway (shoulda known it would leak), but that was the rationale.
What's amazing is that the winner hasn't been leaked yet! But I imagine somebody'd get seriously sued if they did.
Just wanted to add that I think Austin handled his elimination so well because he's just a classy kinda guy.
Anyone have any quotes from the show? I'd like to have someee
Actually Heidi Klum asked, no begged, the media not to reveal the winner. I work for a company that sells clothing and beauty products and was in the city during fashion week - so I saw many artcles about fashion week. True, Austin is one of my favs and deserved to be in the final three, however, by the time he was eliminated, he had already done his show during fashion week. But, only so much could be filmed before fashion week. The article in the times talked about all four shows - giving most information about Jay and Kara.
Bravo, do the finale however it's edited up to this point. But - then I'd *love* to see a final "final" episode of Fashion Week, with Carson Kressley (sp?) and the rest of the Fab 5 as narrators, doing voice-overs from their hangout spliced in with the show. It would be the *best* of Bravo on Bravo!
Hmmm, maybe they could invite Tim Gunn in, get him a little drunk, and see what else he might dish? <veg>
Hmmm, maybe they could invite Tim Gunn in, get him a little drunk, and see what else he might dish? <veg>
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[What's amazing is that the winner hasn't been leaked yet! But I imagine somebody'd get seriously sued if they did.
I don't think there's a winner to leak out yet. If I understand the promos correctly, the segment announcing the winner is going to be live, so in theory, no winner has actually yet been chosen.
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Bravo, do the finale however it's edited up to this point. But - then I'd *love* to see a final "final" episode of Fashion Week, with Carson Kressley (sp?) and the rest of the Fab 5 as narrators, doing voice-overs from their hangout spliced in with the show. It would be the *best* of Bravo on Bravo!
Hmmm, maybe they could invite Tim Gunn in, get him a little drunk, and see what else he might dish? <veg>
I think you need to get a job at Bravo as one of their program directors! That idea is just too fabulous!
And maybe just for some added spice, have some of the PR members return the favor for QE! Picture it. Jay's commentaries on one of Thom's interior creations, one of Austin's pattenetd "Oh My!s" on one of Carson's fashion makeovers, and maybe having Heidi just not saying anything.
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Austin is one of my favs and deserved to be in the final three, however, by the time he was eliminated, he had already done his show during fashion week.
The shows were taped far in advance. All but the final one. (And maybe the reunion show.) This is what I think happened. the air dates were set to coincide with FW but they moved Fashion Week forward (for the second year in a row) to beat the European shows. Suddenly Fashion Week was going to happen way before the episode in which Austin is eliminated airs. So......when Project Runway found out about it they probably contacted Austin and asked him to create a collection for Fashion week to throw everyone off. And why turn down an offer like that? It would also explain a little bit about the Reunion show. It's possible a reunion show was never planned and hit everyone as a surprise. Would Vanessa have said what she did had she known there was going to be a reunion show? Would Wendy? It would also explain Morgan's refusal to do the show. It wasn't part of the original contract but a quickly conceived and organized fill in between fashion week and the final episode. Besides....who is going to be able to do an entire collection in a week? Or even two weeks?
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