Bianca
February 12, 2005 - 12:53 AM
I agree- keeping Wendy to keep ratings is in poor taste. She has been second to last in almost everything and yet makes it to the final three- I mean really
nycgal
February 12, 2005 - 07:45 AM
Austin's runway colonial designs reflects the media attention of the american presidential election. Remember, he was designing his collection in Sept, October, November during the debates. His collection was designed in a hip, elegant, and abit tongue and cheek historical way. His designs were inspiring. At 23 years old, he is already a mature person who has his life ahead to grow, create and inspire others. I don't know why people want to see or promote mediocre designs like Wendy's. There is so much of that in this country. It seems that our brains, eyes and tastes have trouble adjusting to something that has a spark or looks different. Austin takes chances and he is very believable. I smiled when I saw the photos of his 2005 collection. I could wear his designs, look beautiful, feminine and make a fashion statement and not blend in.
I say "let Austin travel the world, apprentice in fashion in Italy, Paris etc. where there is a bigger flow of acceptance when it comes to taste" We Americans including Bravo think we know it all.
P.S. Jay's designs also were incredible.
SusieQT
February 12, 2005 - 07:50 AM
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Nancy Odell just lost one more viewer - her arbitrary decision-making process was irresponsible and ill-informed. Wendy's work has continued to be amateur and on par with a high school remedial sewing class, while Austen Scarlett was - although somewhat costumey - incredibly
inspired, amazingly skillful, and consistently superior in technique and execution.
For Nancy Odell to have chosen Wendy's unfinished and tacky "garanimal" dress over Austen's obvious talent, it demostrated an incredible irresponsibility on the part of the producers to take into account the potential impact to a gifted designer's career.
Bottom line - Wendy does not deserve to be in the final three. She is a hack dressmaker, incapable of rising to the ability of a designer.
The last episode will not be a true competition between three people. Rather, it will be a competition between Kara and Jay, with Wendy's horrific work taking up wasted space on both the runway and the bodies of the models.
How dare Nancy Odell be so arbitrary and cavalier in her decision-making process, and shame on the producers of Project Runway to allow Wendy any more undeserved attention.
I completely agree, except that I was never a fan of Nancy O'Dell to begin with. To have her ultimately making the decision on who goes to Fashion Week was a huge blunder by the show's producers. If they wanted to have this as one of the challenges, fine. But to allow Ms. O'Dell to make the most important decision thus far just shows you that the producers are more interested in keeping a "villain" on the show for drama than actually finding the top designer. I'm not sure if I can even continue watching the show. I'm sorry Austin, you should be in the final three with Jay and Kara.
jescci
February 12, 2005 - 12:02 PM
All things pretty? Ick. Yuck. Who wants that. Not the producers of PR apparently. The message they're sending out to designers seems to be: "Be much more concerned with ...
All things dowdy
All things hippy
All things frumpy
All things farty
All things common
All things conventional
All things unfinished
All things unflattering
All things un-tailored
All things ill-fitting
All things asymetrical
All things cut on the bias
When you've mastered this technique, when you've completely squelched vision, taste and originality, come see us; we'll talk."
c0w0verthem00n
February 12, 2005 - 12:14 PM
I totally agree with you! wendy is such a b****! austin is my favorite, but his dress wasnt exactly grammy's, but Wendy's dress tooked like a chewed up canary. i would of chosen keru San's dress and not have worn the pants. i think Austin, keru San and Jay should of been the finalists! wENDY IS DESINGING CLOTHES FOR OLD CELBRITY'S THAT WE WANT TO GET RID OF! all of her clothes are frumpy! i mean come on! pleats on the outside of shorts? I see her winning makeing a line of clothes and then nobody bying them, ever. to H*** with her!
luvinkpenz
February 12, 2005 - 12:40 PM
I know I mentioned it somewhere earlier. It looked like Heidi was defending Austin design. Which I feel he did Grammy up. If he weren't making the dress more hip he would have never had the short skirt underneath.
lisakaz
February 12, 2005 - 12:48 PM
I don't know when Bravo told him about the decoy thing. Since this top 3 thing was touted in all the episodes (when it actually was top 4), it may have come after the fact. I'd like to know when he know and how much time/money/help he had in comparison to the others. The observation by someone that one of the outfits seemed to come from his pre-existing portfolio seems to reflect that he either did not entirely put his post-PR challenges into these designs for practical or emotional reasons. Some people might have taken the opportunity to show off and show up Bravo for the mistake of eliminating him. He did not do that, as his collection did not detract from (in particular) Jay's or Kara's collections. This is one thing I'd like to hear explained. I'm sure if any of us had a position to discuss with Austin, we'd get the info on how things went down. I don't know if Bravo will be forthcoming and so far we can't ask Austin ourselves.
lk
Peri
February 12, 2005 - 01:12 PM
I know what I am going to say is not going to be popular-but I feel Jay should have left and not Austin. I like Jay's personality-but his designs are not as stylish as Austin's. I also go for the underdog-like Wendy. I think Kara is mean (as she was to Nora-how soon we forget!)
luvinkpenz
February 12, 2005 - 01:23 PM
When was she mean to Nora? Nora said "I dont it (the pattern piece) was lost, I think someone took it" And Kara just called her on it.
luvinkpenz
February 12, 2005 - 01:27 PM
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When was she mean to Nora? Nora said "I dont it (the pattern piece) was lost, I think someone took it" And Kara just called her on it.
ok so i forgot a verb Nora said "I dont think it (the pattern piece) was lost, I think someone took it"
desperatewannabe
February 12, 2005 - 01:53 PM
I agree Austin needs to go to Paris. Becuase he is really a couture or costme designer, as Tim says in the voiceover at the end. Unfortunately for him, Fashion Week, and New York, for that matter, are all about ready-to-wear. Someone who designs only what he loves and not for a client's needs really can't ever do ready-to-wear. He really totally ignored the brief, and I thought it was right to get the hook. This show is not about who can cut the best and design the best, it's who can design the best and be commercial. That's why it was framed as challenges. Austin was close to being booted a few times before, and so it doesn't surprise me and I don't even think it's unfair. They did him a favor. That said, he is still in terms of creativity and sheer ability much, much better than "the Assaultive Pepper."
luvinkpenz
February 12, 2005 - 02:03 PM
I think the fault with the show is the way it is set up to be judging. One mistake and anyone can be out. It should be set on a point system. This should not be set up like a "survivor" type show it should be more like ice skating. Peoples careers and dreams are on the line. The challenges could be the same but, instead of the worst of a specific challenge getting the boot, they should have the person with the lowest acculmative score leave.
alafrancaise
February 12, 2005 - 03:57 PM
I just said this on another thread but I really don't think the decision was all Nancy O'Dell's. If you read the "Tim's Take" for the episode it explains the decision to eliminate Austin as a reflection of his performance throughout the show and not just in the last challenge. You can disagree with it, of course, but I don't see why it should come as such a shock. He rejected many of the critiques of his work out of hand with the facile motto of being true to himself. That may be "vision" or it may just be "tunnel vision."
I am reminded of my students who sometimes claim to have received a low grade on a paper because "Professor Soandso just doesn't like my writing." The creative process (whether it's writing, painting or designing clothes) isn't a one-way street. In this case it's not about whether the judges liked or disliked or "got" Austin's style; it's about the fact that he didn't show enough versatility, flexibility, sensitivity to the specific audience, or growth as a designer.
Certainly, there are so-called experts out there who are only too willing to stifle a nascent creative genius by, for example, telling Jackson Pollack to paint more neatly or telling William Faulkner to use clearer punctuation. But mostly the experts who are giving you advice really want you to be a better writer or painter or whatever. And you don't get to be better by ignoring all criticism.
Please don't flame me. I don't claim to know anything about designing clothes. In looking back, for most of the challenges I could not have picked the winner or the loser -- the criteria are too specialized and frankly over my head. I'm not qualified to argue the specifics of the judges' decision; I only want to defend it as reasonable, given the context of the game. Reasonable people can, of course, disagree.
PA_AZ_Girl
February 12, 2005 - 06:26 PM
Jay, I'm so proud of you for making it to the finals! I grew up in Scranton, PA and think it is great that you made it to the big show! You rock and I love you clothes!!!
Kara, Love all of your designs. You deserved to win all the challenges you did. Best of luck.
Wendy, You don't deserve to be in the finals. You are a very mean spirited person and karma will eventually get you.
Austin, You deserve to be in the finals... I know you'll go on to great things. You're a fabulous designer.
ethos
February 13, 2005 - 01:55 PM
What I don't understand is why theY brought in Nancy O'Dell..I mean no disrespect but she is not what I would call a Fashionista. Wendy in the final three is a joke and a BAD ONE!
Jayroxmyworld
February 13, 2005 - 05:45 PM
Im really curious to know if the show will be put onto dvd because it is such a great show??? I really really want to own it cause it would never get old. Someone please let me know if you have any info on it.
Go Jay
wd_s
February 13, 2005 - 07:54 PM
I find it interesting that everyone here wants Wendy out because they think for some reason she is evil. (I'm not getting into that argument.) I thought the object of the show was to rate the designs...not the individual or their personality.
Honestly, Wendy has repeatedly been at the chopping block as having had one of the worst designs for whatever challenge; however, she has always avoided the cut because her work has still been better than the absolute worst...for whatever reason. Basically, facts are facts...even if we don't like them.
As well, the final four were told up-front at the final challenge that there would be NO merrit placed on their previous performance in the competition, and that this challenge would decide the final three. Wendy won the final challenge...and like it or not...it was according to the rules set by the game.
Though Austin is a very creative designer, you have to pay attention and follow the guidelines set by the game and/or client. His complete lack of following the guidlines is what removed him from this competition. Though his gown was nice and well made, it was completely out of place...and he admitted in his defense (and through out the episode) he was designing what he wanted to design...not what was called for.
Let's face it...Bravo isn't out to find the next great designer, or male model, or make a sincere gay match. They are out to entertain us...and judging from this message board they have done a pretty good job so far. The truth of the matter is...if Bravo really is out to find the next greatest "whatever", they need to go back to the drawing board because the process has been very flawed in every reality-based show they have produced...ie. producer induced conflict on PR...the semi-sex scandal with Kevin P and what's-his-name on Manhunt...the way the entire gay/straight thing was handled on Boy meets Boy...etc... Really, after all the editing and under-handed plot shifts by producers, the shows are far, far from reality.
The way I see it, it's usually "three strikes and your out". In my opinion, I would say this is Bravo's third strike... but ultimately the viewers decide if Bravo is "out". So, the question is "was this Bravo's third strike with it's viewing public?"
JPGProtege
February 13, 2005 - 08:13 PM
Did anyone get to see the runway show during fashion week? I think Kara Saun's collection was well put together with her theme and I am surprised Wendy's collection was even good in the sense that during the show we see that she tends to lack some design skills and tends to worry what others are doing. Jay's collection said JAY all over it and it was wonderful and fun and yet wearable which is what fashion should be fun and wearable. I was really surprised to see Austin showing a collection during fashion week. I think they did that so we wouldn't know who the final three would be which is weird when you think about it the Episode for the final three came before the runway show. But Austin's show was Austin and very 1600's inspired with modern twist for a modern women. Well here is a link to where you can see the collections
http://www.wireimage.com/GalleryListing.asp?
navtyp=CLB&str=41273&sfld=&styp=clbi&nvc=
&nvv=&nm=Pepper&evntI=1152
and
http://www.wireimage.com/GalleryListing.as...&styp=clbi&nvc=
&nvv=&nm=Jay+McCarroll&evntI=1152
and
http://www.wireimage.com/GalleryListing.asp?
navtyp=gls====99694&evntI=1152
and
http://www.wireimage.com/GalleryListing.as...&styp=clbi&nvc=
&nvv=&nm=Austin+Scarlett&evntI=1152
JPGProtege
February 13, 2005 - 08:23 PM
Oh by the way here is a link to where you can see the video of the show.
http://www.ny1.com/ny/Search/SubTopic/inde...earch_result=1#
JuLiAnBeN
February 13, 2005 - 09:34 PM
I understand that the show is for entertainment purposes only, however I think that producers and/or directors who have manipulated the show’s process of elimination for pure entertainment purposes have “turned me off” from the entire premise of the show. By awarding and not eliminating Wendy from the show, shows that the entire series is simply a long running commercial for Banana Republic and other sponsors (its just a longer version of the “Taster’s Choice” commercials. I understand why Wendy has been kept (an not because of her talent). She is the evil entertainment, however I believe she should have been eliminated a long time ago. If your intent was to keep views attention, it back fired with me, once Austin was eliminated. . .I no longer wish to watch this drama or soap opera any more. Please rethink your future ventures in “reality tv”. . . sometimes allowing a bit more “reality” will still catch the viewers attention for the long haul.
evana
February 13, 2005 - 09:55 PM
There is only one disappointing factor to this show...Wendy Pepper. It is unbelievable to me that she has made it by the skin of her teeth every single time. The last show to me was one I could not stand to watch. It was a televised train wreck much like the Ashlee Simpson goof on SNL. I just couldn't take my eyes off it.
Nancy O'Dell has a website and I suggest that everyone should post a note on her website too.
Nancy O'Dell was the biggest mistake for a judge. She is completely cookie cutter when it comes to fashion. She chooses clothes like she is a 16 year old girl. Gag me!!!! She chose Wendy's feathered outfit...I guess the saying is true that "birds of the same feather flock together"...the no style club.
I hate feeling mean spirited about people, but I just can't find one redeemable quality about Wendy Pepper. My biggest pet peve is Wendy's whole look. How she feels on the inside is really reflected on how she looks on the outside. The lab coat! The clown make-up and skunk hair!
She is evil and twisted. I don't know who she thinks she is. She is one of the most horrible people I've ever seen on TV.
I don't know how anyone like her can have a happy life. She is so bitter and throws herself a pity party whenever she can. And I absolutely hate people who feel it's necessary to put other people down to make themselves feel better.
My message to you Wendy...set a good example for your children. You are an embarassment to women everywhere. I have no pity for you. You should be ashamed to have your children witness your malicious antics.
lisakaz
February 13, 2005 - 10:22 PM
I agree, but I think the producers, etc. got bit in the heiny by their own machinations to get Cruella to the last show pre FW. I think like Rob (beefcake value) they kept Wendy around for TV purposes and figured the final 3 would be the real talent. They may have been blindsided by O'Dell's choice, if you take Heidi's comment about tweaking as an attempt to save the show. The show lost credibility with viewers AND with the industry by featuring the woefully underwelming Cruella at FW. A solid or outstanding Austin woulda hurt more perhaps, which could explain how they wanted the decoy to be legit but not too good. If the producers did carry Wendy it bit them in the end. I hope they think twice about this next time.
lk
Godiva
February 14, 2005 - 12:04 AM
I also agree with Tim's assessment of what went on for the challenge. Everyone was working under "I don't want to lose" rather than "I want to win". And while I've felt Wendy should have been out for the last three challenges I also agree with Tim's assessment of Austin. He isn't flexible. He doesn't listen. He doesn't learn from criticism. He's young and he'll learn. He is immensely talented and will be highly successful in his niche. But this show isn't it. No way Austin should be a little worker bee for Banana Republic. In fact, I wouldn't really with that on anyone but Wendy. She is a hack that will do well under the corporate cookie cutter give them what they will buy and we'll tell them it's fashionable. Orange suede? My Gawd! But I think the biggest reason I think Kara, Jay and Austin should have gone to the final three is their attitudes. They have been cheerful, positive and supportive of each other. With each passing week Wendy has become more nasty. The unique thing about project runway is that you can't treat it like survivor and plot and form alliances to stay in. Because staying in depends on nothing but talent. Wendy has been inconsistent and the only reason she's stayed this long is that each time there has been someone who needed to be out more than she. Personally, I would have kept Austin in just on his track record and talent. But I recognize why Austin was voted out and I agree. That said, Wendy will be embarassingly outclassed at the final show. Wendy cannot create anything fashionable or attractive without a lot of direction, feedback and handholding. She'll never be able to pull off a collection on her own. Kara and Jay will both shine. They are different enough that both will be equally deserving to win. Wendy will be....well, the HomeEc teacher who accidentally got lucky. Karmageddon will prevail. BTW does anyone think they know who drew on her picture? (And why bring a one of a kind no duplicate or negatives picture with you and display it in a public place you twit?) I can think of one person immature and vindictive enough to take that kind of petty revenge. Someone who was out and would blame Wendy. Am I being too obtuse?
lsheldon
February 14, 2005 - 01:17 AM
As a theatrical costume designer, I have found this show to be very entertaining - until recently. Clearly, this is not a "reality" show, but a scripted, ratings-driven vehicle with a forgone conclusion. The talent, attitude, and professionalism of the designers seem to have little or no bearing on who wins each week's challenge. If they did, Wendy Pepper would have been gone after the gumdrop "dress." And was it a major screw up that Fashion Week occurred BEFORE the final episodes of Project Runway aired? Because, anyone with a little computer savvy has already seen the runway show of all FOUR finalists. Or was one of the finalists set to present a line from the beginning? What started out as a unique and entertaining show, has rapidly dwindled into just another hour of TV drivel.
nyblue
February 14, 2005 - 04:11 AM
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Okay I was unaware of the runway show being aired?
Is that part really a question? (typo? uptalking?) If it's a question I don't understand what you are asking. Unless you are asking yourself.
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The last episode I saw was Wed with the Nacy Odell grammy dress that's why I was unsure if everyone knew about Austin not really being "cut" and going on to Olympus Fashion week with Wendy, Kara and Jay. The only reason I've known about the final four was because I was a guest at fashion week. Let me tell you there is nothing like seeing thier designs in person. www.blog.chaosbutterfly.org has great pics and clips from the show if anyone who didn't see the runway episode boo-boo wants to check it out
Pretty much simultaneous with the FW shows, pictures of the collections are released, so if you want to know, you can. So most of us did. I've looked on the blog for the "boo-boos,' but I still don't understand what you are referring to. All I see are the pictures of the FW collections, just the same as everywhere else. Where is the "boo-boo"?
Tdak
February 14, 2005 - 05:29 AM
Absolutely, the show is more script like than reality. I can's say that I do not like Wendy Pepper's designs, but her in general. I think there are some issues, at least it seems like it. Woe is me, get over it and be more consistent. There is potential in her work, but none in her personality.
Whenever you have reality shows, they only air the juicy parts and not the ordinary parts. I think that all the designers on the show have potential, some are more experienced than others, and that is what makes the show.
Not to say that they all belonged on fashion week, because surely only the best should be there.
Tdak
February 14, 2005 - 05:33 AM
Oh yeah, they are both very good designers. They have the attitude (good one) and an awesome personality. That's what makes them so very cool. They will both go on to great things in their lives.
Keep up the good work.
gigilogan
February 14, 2005 - 06:38 AM
Has anyone been able to find a picture of Nancy O'Dell from the Grammy's last night. I'm so curious to see the tweaking and can not find a photo anywhere...
ericats
February 14, 2005 - 08:02 AM
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Nancy O'Dell has a website and I suggest that everyone should post a note on her website too.
I wouldn't bother; the mods are not posting messages people have written about the dress. There is a Nancy on PR thread but it is eerily empty.
xactlyme
February 14, 2005 - 08:39 AM
well said.
nor am i a fashionista but i know what i like, and in watching some of fashion week on the Style network,ive become painfully aware that being a famous designer seems to be about who you know, bl*w, hang with etc.. not about innovation or skill. it seems folks jump on a bandwagon cause so-and-so says they 'rock', regardless if it looks
good!
starr could be the next big designer if paris hilton bought her! what does that tell you?! honestly she should be designing for heatherette, shed fit right in, tacky, tacky, tacky.
everyone of our pr designers, from the original 12, has a career shot, they just need celebrity endorsement, cause nobody in the industry seems to have the cajones to say when something sucks!
so when the judges whine about 'costumey' they need to take a look at the runway! i cant see too many of the sucessful designers 'conforming' to instructions like our contestants have(or havent).
ive been waiting to vent all weekend ;p
MissPickle
February 14, 2005 - 09:15 AM
I'm also really interested in seeing a photo of Nancy wearing Wendy's outfit to the Grammys. Has anyone been able to find one?
drgnflyann
February 14, 2005 - 09:24 AM
I was wondering the same thing. I did a couple of searches but couldn't find one. I guess I'll be watching Access Hollywood tonight!
Caligula
February 14, 2005 - 09:39 AM
She didn't wear it. she wore some light blue shiny thing that looked like she got it at Lerner's. She definitely could have worn Austin's. He got screwed.
kimi
February 14, 2005 - 10:12 AM
I don't know why I haven't sought out this board before now but am glad I did. I have had such a hard time watching Wendy that I almost stopped watching several times. Yes, I'm aware that every reality show has to have that one person that you love to hate, just like a soap opera. Look what it's done for Susan Lucci. A soap opera is one thing but this turns my stomach. When they have such an obvious no talent as a contender we have to watch her lack of talent and vicious personality rewarded over and over every week. The only thing that kept me coming back was that I thought she would be gone soon and I would be able to enjoy the show on it's own merits. I don't know if I can watch this week, I don't think I really care who wins anymore or at least I don't care enough to subject myself to another hour of Wendy. We'll see come Wednesday evening. Oh, and BTW, I love my kids with a fervor, if anyone ever raised a hand against them they would have to go through me but I could care less if someone defaced one of the thousands of pictures I've taken over the years. Wendy wasn't maternally upset because it was her child, she was upset because "how dare anyone do this to ME, the great Wendy" Uhgg.
ericats
February 14, 2005 - 11:08 AM
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I don't know if I can watch this week, I don't think I really care who wins anymore or at least I don't care enough to subject myself to another hour of Wendy. We'll see come Wednesday evening.
They are not going to announce the winner this week. They are having a special reunion show. If you are not a Wendy Defendy you might want to watch it because it looks like many of the designers are going to give her asschewings.
ericats
February 14, 2005 - 11:12 AM
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She didn't wear it. she wore some light blue shiny thing that looked like she got it at Lerner's. She definitely could have worn Austin's. He got screwed.
I guess challenge was fabricated by the producers to keep Wendy on the show. I wonder if O'Duh's contract stated that she didn't have to wear the winning design.
Puddinhead
February 14, 2005 - 02:05 PM
You can see Nancy O'Dell in the dress at www.accesshollywood.com. Go to "special access" which brings up a slideshow. There is a great shot on #11. Maybe my monitor needs calibrating - the dress looks more gold than orange - but it looks fabulous.
Seems to me that we all get enamored with our favorite designer and love everything that he/she creates. I wonder what it would be like if we saw the finished outfits without knowing who created them. I bet we'd pick different favorites!
gigilogan
February 14, 2005 - 02:19 PM
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You can see Nancy O'Dell in the dress at www.accesshollywood.com. Go to "special access" which brings up a slideshow. There is a great shot on #11. Maybe my monitor needs calibrating - the dress looks more gold than orange - but it looks fabulous.
Excellent. Thanks for posting. I like the changes that were made - particularly the skirt which looks like it might be some kind of leather cutout and the boobs which look more comfortable and normal. I think it's too bad she lost the jeweled necklace at the top.
I thought Wendy's design was a little overdone, but not bad overall and I understood why Odell chose it given her preferences. Though the more I thought about it, the more I also thought Austin's could have been just as tweaked to be grammy. Shorten the fabric a bit and maybe fringe or jewel the ends and it could be really hip instead of just flowey. And the lines would have been really flattering on O'Dell. Oh vell.
And I totally agree with you about being biased by our opinions of the designer. Besides Jay's collection, it was pretty hard from the unmarked Fashion Week photos which was who's.
ScarlettLetter
February 14, 2005 - 02:29 PM
It's totally ridiculous how obviously rigged this show is to play to the ratings.
1. Heidi Klum has the personality of a dominat rix trying to pretend to be a fluffy bunny... or maybe I have it backwards. She's only there because she's supposed to be sexy since she's all over Victoria's Secret.
2. The judges are people only concerned with a certain type of clothing and never pleased with anything. It's a wonder that Nina can ever fill the pages of Elle with fashion considering she's always confused and underwhelmed.
3. Wendy Pepper cannot design clothing for anything. And yet she's made it to the top three. Why? Because she adds controversy and scandal to the show. There's no other reason. Sure, she designed two great dresses. Other than that she's completely flubbed and almost been kicked off just about every single elimination. If she wasn't the vindictive villanous Wendy we've seen she'd have been gone way before they evicted Starr.
The show is ridiculous. It was a brilliant idea, but it's a blatant ratings puppy. And that's it.
alafrancaise
February 14, 2005 - 02:31 PM
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There is only one disappointing factor to this show...Wendy Pepper.
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She is evil and twisted. I don't know who she thinks she is. She is one of the most horrible people I've ever seen on TV.
Oh, dear. "Evil and twisted." I know the message board is a medium which lends itself to hyperbole, but c'mon. Use that kind of language for Wendy, and what do you have left for people who abuse puppies?
All we know of Wendy is what the producers show us. She may be an odious person in real life, but we don't know that. Moreover, the others on the show may be much less nice than they appear.
Remember, we're only seeing a fraction of what happens and it's a fraction that is distilled through the lens of the plot.
And as far as hating "people who feel it's necessary to put other people down to make themselves feel better" what do you think the show is doing in presenting Wendy in this way? They create a cartoon version of Wendy as a person who is so unpleasant and insecure that the rest of us can feel better about ourselves. The reason that this aspect of the show works is that, in fact, most people are that kind of person. I'm not above it, in certain moods, myself. I just don't think Wendy has done anything so very bad (with the exception of the candy bikini) to be ranked among the "evil and twisted."
Again, please don't flame me. I find the virulence of the reactions to Wendy kind of upsetting. You're entitled to your opinion, of course, but it just seems so unfair to judge her this harshly based on how little we know about her really.
ethos
February 14, 2005 - 03:01 PM
I agree with you about Austin. He really limits himself though.
He really doesn't listen to whats being requested. It's like all he sees is what he wants.
I was so shocked at the dress he made for Nancy O'dell - it was so not what she asked for.
He is a good designer but he needs to set some strectch goals and search for different looks while at the same time "listening" to whats being asked of him and then act on it. Austin puts himself before the client.
ethos
February 14, 2005 - 03:13 PM
I am trying to understand why they picked her. Is it me or is she not what 1 would call a Fashionista? I mean is she someone who people look at and say, "I can't wait to see what she wears to the Grammys".
I saw a picture of the "tweaked" outfit and it's just an OK outfit. It's not what I would call high fashion which is what I thought the show is about.
I can't wait until Wednesday's show to see them all blow off steam.
Lolita
February 14, 2005 - 03:30 PM
I agree, ba-bye Wendy! I really loved Austin Scarlet's designs, very innovative, creative, artistic, etc. besides that, I loved Austin's personality. he's really made to grace in the media.
I'm heterosexual, female but I just adored watching him week after week, if I was male and gay I'd be just like him. guess I'm Austin Scarlet's fan! Bring him back! Bring him back! Bring him back!!!!!!!
Tamiji
February 14, 2005 - 03:44 PM
After all of bad mouthing of Austin's dress last week (by the judges, et all), Nancy Odell had chosen "NOT" to wear Wendy's winning dress!
She wore a non-descript black outfit for the Grammy's.
I thought this was the reason for Nancy being on Project Runway in the first place.
Hmmm...something smells fishy. Austin definately got the short end of the stick. IMHO, Austin should be sent back to the show for this very reason. Shame on the producers, for lack of checks and balances.
luvinkpenz
February 14, 2005 - 03:49 PM
She did wear Wendy's tweaked dress. You can see it on Access Hollywoods website
6foot2
February 14, 2005 - 04:00 PM
Yep- she wore the dress, but it was reworked, new skirt, different closure on top.
my65baby107
February 14, 2005 - 04:04 PM
There is a pic of Nancy Odell on the Access Hollywood website under Access the Grammys then under behind the scenes pics. Check out her dress.... there was a LOT of tweaking done.
Tamiji
February 14, 2005 - 04:07 PM
Yep! your right. I looked at the site last night after the grammy's, and all could see her wearing was a black somethin' somethin'.
Well, they still need to back Austin back anyway. I did see quite a few long evening gowns last night.
DennisMH61
February 14, 2005 - 04:47 PM
Look at "Photo Gallery: Grammys Behind the Scenes" on Access Hollywood's website - photo #11. The dress is COMPLETELY reworked - the neckline is changed, the straps are in a different position, the bodice has been shirred, and the skirt is not the same skirt - no feathers, and it's a different fabric than Wendy's.
BOOOOO!!!! SHAME ON NANCY O'DELL AND SHAME ON THE PRODUCERS OF "PROJECT RUNWAY"!!!!!!
Loomchick
February 14, 2005 - 04:56 PM
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The dress is COMPLETELY reworked - the neckline is changed, the straps are in a different position, the bodice has been shirred, and the skirt is not the same skirt - no feathers, and it's a different fabric than Wendy's.
Perhaps the challenge was to "inspire" the design of a dress for the Grammy's . . . They just forgot to tell us.
I see the similarity between the tops of Wendzilla's dress and Nancy O'Dells' dress . . . but then I see similarity with those and the top she was wearing at the beginning of episode #9 <groan>
The skirts are only similar as far as color . . . and they're both above the knee . . . Beyond that, their very different.
Wendy didn't "design" O'Dell's Grammy dress . . . she "inspired" it . . . at best