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Shaybo
I guess I'll have to go to Best Buy and look. Or maybe Walmart. Oops I think I just heard Carson faint. (Remember the episode about the boy friend proposing to the girlfriend. He told Carson where he bought one of his shirts. K-Mart.)
Shaybo
JustTzujIt
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I guess I'll have to go to Best Buy and look. Or maybe Walmart. Oops I think I just heard Carson faint. (Remember the episode about the boy friend proposing to the girlfriend. He told Carson where he bought one of his shirts. K-Mart.)
Shaybo




*gasp!* Don't you use that kind of language around me!
witchgirl
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I guess I'll have to go to Best Buy and look. Or maybe Walmart. Oops I think I just heard Carson faint. (Remember the episode about the boy friend proposing to the girlfriend. He told Carson where he bought one of his shirts. K-Mart.)
Shaybo



I think DVDs are fine. It's clothes that you aren't supposed to buy at places like Kmart and Walmart.
raindog
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I guess I'll have to go to Best Buy and look. Or maybe Walmart. Oops I think I just heard Carson faint. (Remember the episode about the boy friend proposing to the girlfriend. He told Carson where he bought one of his shirts. K-Mart.)
Shaybo



I think DVDs are fine. It's clothes that you aren't supposed to buy at places like Kmart and Walmart.




I read an article a year or so ago about how Walmart sells edited DVDs and CDs to make them "family friendly", and doesn't indicate that they are edited. Granted, this article was in a small local paper and I don't know how valid it was, AND I've never read anything else about it - but it made me wonder.

The writer was quite angry because he lives in a small remote town in western NC where Walmart is pretty much the only retailer for things like that. It's Walmart or drive an hour and a half. He resented Walmart deciding for him what was okay to see and what wasn't, and especially resented that they don't make it clear that it was edited material.
JustTzujIt
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I read an article a year or so ago about how Walmart sells edited DVDs and CDs to make them "family friendly", and doesn't indicate that they are edited. Granted, this article was in a small local paper and I don't know how valid it was, AND I've never read anything else about it - but it made me wonder.

The writer was quite angry because he lives in a small remote town in western NC where Walmart is pretty much the only retailer for things like that. It's Walmart or drive an hour and a half. He resented Walmart deciding for him what was okay to see and what wasn't, and especially resented that they don't make it clear that it was edited material.




*sigh* Walmart, Walmart... the food is fine, just the same at any other place... but besides the entire place smelling of dog food, they've had a horrible history of sweatshops overseas and gender discrimination towards employees... nevermind the clothes fall apart within five washings and the electronics are secretly edited!
LilQueerEyeFan
I buy snacks at Walmart, but as long as they are sealed foods made by major companies like Nabisco, Kraft, Frito-Lay, etc. But that is really the only thing that I will buy there. Maybe some school supplies too. I mean, how can they go wrong with a pencil?
It does smell weird in Walmart. At least, my local ones. In both ones, it smells kind of bad. I wonder why that is...
As for the editing thing, I have had the experience of being a disappointed customer because everything they have there is, like, edited, but they do not make it clear on some. They do, but the only place where it says "edited" is on a little spot on the sticky label thingy. That is why, if I want to get a CD cheaper, I go to Target, but I mostly get my CDs at Best Buy. I know I am thirteen, but when it comes to CDs, in my opinion, it ruins the song if it is edited. I usually do not listen to music that would need to be edited for any reason, but when I do, I realize that I hear more profanity and dirty language at my school than I do in the songs I listen to.
Lizard
KCee
Check out this article. It expands on why the show is a bit different this year. And, perhaps explains why they took off the "for the straight guy" part of the title.

http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/ny-p2...tainment-bigpix

Makes me wonder if someone at Bravo/Scout reads the message boards and saw the numerous posts from people saying that the show had become boring & wasn't as good as before, etc.
raindog
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I read an article a year or so ago about how Walmart sells edited DVDs and CDs to make them "family friendly", and doesn't indicate that they are edited. Granted, this article was in a small local paper and I don't know how valid it was, AND I've never read anything else about it - but it made me wonder.

The writer was quite angry because he lives in a small remote town in western NC where Walmart is pretty much the only retailer for things like that. It's Walmart or drive an hour and a half. He resented Walmart deciding for him what was okay to see and what wasn't, and especially resented that they don't make it clear that it was edited material.




*sigh* Walmart, Walmart... the food is fine, just the same at any other place... but besides the entire place smelling of dog food, they've had a horrible history of sweatshops overseas and gender discrimination towards employees... nevermind the clothes fall apart within five washings and the electronics are secretly edited!




They also put things out on the shelves that don't work and have already been returned, as I've found from experience. Along with the things that just plain don't work. I once bought three different telephones there, before finally giving up and going to Office Max. Now I never ever buy anything electronic there, or anything that has to operate in some fashion. Actually, I never buy anything but film there any more, and that's just because it's WAY cheaper.
JustTzujIt
The Rent! movie is coming out November 11, but Jai won't be in it. I don't think his schedule allowed. Anyway, it still looks good, but as of now it will only be in theatres so you had better catch it when you can! You can see a trailer of it if you google "Rent movie." It's pretty good, it's got the best song from Rent (In my opinion) on it.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0294870/trailers
clarissa
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The Rent! movie is coming out November 11, but Jai won't be in it. I don't think his schedule allowed. Anyway, it still looks good, but as of now it will only be in theatres so you had better catch it when you can! You can see a trailer of it if you google "Rent movie." It's pretty good, it's got the best song from Rent (In my opinion) on it.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0294870/trailers




Actually, Jai REALLY wanted the part, and even auditioned, but they decided to go with the original Angel. I'm sure Wilson will be wonderful, but I'd be lying if I didn't say I wish it was Jai instead. It'd be amazing to see a clear tape of him performing the role. Not to mention, when I think of Angel, he's all I see....*sighs, wondering if there's a chance he'll reprise Zanna instead*
totallybisexual
when I went to see the perfcet man I saw the rent trailer I recnized the first two notes and frecked out my mom didn't know till I told her. I wish Jai had even a swing role in the the movie

I'm anti wal-mart everything their smells weid. people actually live at one the one in my hometown! sad I know
JustTzujIt
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when I went to see the perfcet man I saw the rent trailer I recnized the first two notes and frecked out my mom didn't know till I told her. I wish Jai had even a swing role in the the movie

I'm anti wal-mart everything their smells weid. people actually live at one the one in my hometown! sad I know




REALLY!?!? I was gonna go see Perfect Man, but it turns out my family and I went to Oregon the day it came out and we didn't have any time to see it, plus I wanted to see it with friends. I'm hoping it will still be out Saturday... hope, hope! I've seen the trailer only online after an hour of downloading (I stand by my Macs!) so it'd be great to see it again, on the bigscreen. I can't wait for the movie!
design_daddy
If anyone wants a photo of Car from AMC'S "CELEBRITY CHARADES" see Enter. Weekly page 47 from June 17th issue.

RED SOX photo page 59 June 17th
tszuj-it
Look, Ted finally put up his own official website!
http://www.tedallen.net/
bileotter
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Look, Ted finally put up his own official website!
http://www.tedallen.net/




Awww, it's about time. Thanks, Naomi!

Why does it have architectural plans all over it, though, I wonder?
MidniteBlue
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Look, Ted finally put up his own official website!
http://www.tedallen.net/




Awww, it's about time. Thanks, Naomi!

Why does it have architectural plans all over it, though, I wonder?




Maybe because it's "under construction"?
LilQueerEyeFan
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Look, Ted finally put up his own official website!
http://www.tedallen.net/




Awww, it's about time. Thanks, Naomi!

Why does it have architectural plans all over it, though, I wonder?



Um. This is just a guess, but maybe it has the plans all over it because the website is under constuction and those things have to do with architecture, which can be related to construction. I am not sure though.
-Elizabeth
bileotter
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Maybe because it's "under construction"?




Oh. Heh. I knew that. Really, I did.

I'm going over here now.
design_daddy
I had a bad experience once while buying a cd w/ a bunch of one-hit-wonder songs. The cashier had the nerve to tell me that so-so is a good song....etc. Kinda like snopping at what you buy..she also made some remark...about one of the songs
Shouldn't it NOT be the cashier's business to look & comment at what you are purchasing. I thought it was very rude and discourteous
MidniteBlue
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I had a bad experience once while buying a cd w/ a bunch of one-hit-wonder songs. The cashier had the nerve to tell me that so-so is a good song....etc. Kinda like snopping at what you buy..she also made some remark...about one of the songs
Shouldn't it NOT be the cashier's business to look & comment at what you are purchasing. I thought it was very rude and discourteous




Hi, DD! I'm not trying to blast you or anything but I'm just curious as to why you thought the cashier was being rude. Maybe he/she was just trying to make conversation. If they weren't criticizing your purchase, they probably weren't trying to be discourteous.

I've worked as a cashier at a fast food restuarant, a supermarket, and now I'm at a department store (though I'm not usually at the register) so it's hard for me to get angry at customer service people. I know what it's like to work in that kind of job so I usually just give them the benefit of the doubt. Just offering MHO.
design_daddy
In general I think that the person should not be making comments at what you buy. I can see YOUR view "making conversation...etc"
No hard feelings thanks for sharing MB
design_daddy
What were some of your fave places that your Fab 5 has gone to in any previous eppys?
tomasulo
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I had a bad experience once while buying a cd w/ a bunch of one-hit-wonder songs. The cashier had the nerve to tell me that so-so is a good song....etc. Kinda like snopping at what you buy..she also made some remark...about one of the songs
Shouldn't it NOT be the cashier's business to look & comment at what you are purchasing. I thought it was very rude and discourteous




Hi, DD! I'm not trying to blast you or anything but I'm just curious as to why you thought the cashier was being rude. Maybe he/she was just trying to make conversation. If they weren't criticizing your purchase, they probably weren't trying to be discourteous.

I've worked as a cashier at a fast food restuarant, a supermarket, and now I'm at a department store (though I'm not usually at the register) so it's hard for me to get angry at customer service people. I know what it's like to work in that kind of job so I usually just give them the benefit of the doubt. Just offering MHO.




MidniteBlue: I share your "humble" opinion....in fact, when I go out on a date (I don't want to tell you how long it's been because you'd pity me!), I like to check out how my date treats service staff. If he doesn't acknowledge or say thank you or if he gives the waiter a hard time over some small thing, it's time to say "move on, paisan!". I've heard a lot of women say that a good test of a guy's character is how he treats his mom and I would add to that the way he treats clerks, service people, etc. If there's over the top provocation, I would expect my date to stand his ground, but for everyday situations, a smile and a kind word are totally sexy.
design_daddy
I acknolwedge your point of view, tomasulo
design_daddy
Good for Ted and his fans.
One of my favorite Ted moments was in the Andrew Lane eppy.
notevayas
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MidniteBlue: I share your "humble" opinion....in fact, when I go out on a date (I don't want to tell you how long it's been because you'd pity me!), I like to check out how my date treats service staff. If he doesn't acknowledge or say thank you or if he gives the waiter a hard time over some small thing, it's time to say "move on, paisan!". I've heard a lot of women say that a good test of a guy's character is how he treats his mom and I would add to that the way he treats clerks, service people, etc. If there's over the top provocation, I would expect my date to stand his ground, but for everyday situations, a smile and a kind word are totally sexy.



I agree that a smile and a kind word of appreciation is fine, but I have my own version of the "5 second rule". Neither of us should have to say that we are together to get a waitress to stop flirting. I know it is likely that she just wants a nice tip, but it's annoying. Little do they know that any tip is thanks to me anyway.. and usually given despite their chatter, not because of.

Men should be good to their mothers, but I think a good test is to see if a man can put his foot down with his mother as well, or else you may spend your life playing second fiddle to a controlling Mother.

Finally, a good judge of a man's character is to drive cross country with him. Can he ask for directions? Does he take both your lives into his hands if some fool cuts him off? How does he handle traffic snarls, unplanned rest stops, detours? How often is he willing to relinquish control of the stereo or the wheel? Does he clutch the wheel or let it sit under his hand? Does he signal? Does he speed? How does he take tight turns? Does he tailgate? Will he let you eat in the car, or is he compulsively neat? Is the car a trash can? Is there a gun under his seat? What is in the glove compartment? What is in the boot? How does he use the horn? the high beams? Does he have some silly thing hanging from his rear view miror? The list is endless..

notevayas
tomasulo
If he has a gun in the glove compartment and a body in the boot, he just might be connected! Now THAT'S sexy!
witchgirl
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If he has a gun in the glove compartment and a body in the boot, he just might be connected! Now THAT'S sexy!



You guys sound like you're from England, using the word "boot."
tomasulo
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If he has a gun in the glove compartment and a body in the boot, he just might be connected! Now THAT'S sexy!



You guys sound like you're from England, using the word "boot."




Sorry to sound so pseudo-Euro....it's a habit from when I drove an English car. It'll alway be "the boot" and "the bonnet" to me.
JustTzujIt
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Good for Ted and his fans.
One of my favorite Ted moments was in the Andrew Lane eppy.





Let me guess: 'Tis only a flesh wound!"

That Carson, what a spaz. But that's why we love him so much.
notevayas
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If he has a gun in the glove compartment and a body in the boot, he just might be connected! Now THAT'S sexy!



You guys sound like you're from England, using the word "boot."



I'm not from England... but Massachusetts is in New England.. I'm hesitant to ask what a 'connection' is.. Do you mean like "The French Connection"?
KCee
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Good for Ted and his fans.
One of my favorite Ted moments was in the Andrew Lane eppy.





Let me guess: 'Tis only a flesh wound!"

That Carson, what a spaz. But that's why we love him so much.




Ah, but that Python quote was from Ted, not Carson. Though it was said only after Carson stabbed Ted's head with a corkscrew. LOL

Looking forward to the website!
JustTzujIt
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Good for Ted and his fans.
One of my favorite Ted moments was in the Andrew Lane eppy.





Let me guess: 'Tis only a flesh wound!"

That Carson, what a spaz. But that's why we love him so much.




Ah, but that Python quote was from Ted, not Carson. Though it was said only after Carson stabbed Ted's head with a corkscrew. LOL

Looking forward to the website!




Yeah, that's what I was trying to get across... he seemed to have been even more of a spaz that episode, with the brief television scene and the - what was it, a corkscrew? - because Carson's accident was the reason why Ted gave the Python line. And boy, do I love that movie!
Black
Hello... I'm new here and hopefully this'll be the site i've been looking for... but so much for that, I've seen some videos of those Texas episodes... it looks real fun!!!! I can't wait for those episodes to come out!!!

They look really cute!!!!!
JustTzujIt
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Hello... I'm new here and hopefully this'll be the site i've been looking for... but so much for that, I've seen some videos of those Texas episodes... it looks real fun!!!! I can't wait for those episodes to come out!!!

They look really cute!!!!!




Hey, Black! Let me be the first to say, "Welcome." It's always great to see new posters; we need all we can get. So, the inevitable question... "Who's your favorite fab fiver?" If you love Carson's wit, you're a CIT. If you favor sexy Thom - and you're a female - you could be a Thom Wife. Ted's intellect? You're a TeDelicious! Spunky Jai? You're a Jai's Mimi/Angel. And if you prefer relaxed but nonetheless H-O-T Kyan, you're a Kyanite!

Enjoy the boards. I'm sure you'll be gettiing many more official welcomes from the bigger posters on the boards soon.
tomasulo
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If he has a gun in the glove compartment and a body in the boot, he just might be connected! Now THAT'S sexy!



You guys sound like you're from England, using the word "boot."



I'm not from England... but Massachusetts is in New England.. I'm hesitant to ask what a 'connection' is.. Do you mean like "The French Connection"?





FYI, notey, "connected" means you have ties to The Mob.
qeftsgfan
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Hello... I'm new here and hopefully this'll be the site i've been looking for... but so much for that, I've seen some videos of those Texas episodes... it looks real fun!!!! I can't wait for those episodes to come out!!!

They look really cute!!!!!




Welcome. I havent been on in a while but I will welcome you nonetheless. Anyways your awesome, you know why? cuz you love Queer Eye.

Love Always

Heaven

*My teeter-totter's broken*
qeftsgfan
Ok, seeing as how I havent been on here in a while Im not quite sure if what I am about to say has been talked about already but I am so happy. As we all know Kyan is now doing commercials for Hair coloring stuff ( I forgot the brand name right now). We also know that the fabulous Thom is doing Pier 1 commercials. But like 10 minutes ago, or maybe it was a half an hour ago, oh who cares when but it was just a little bit ago today (if that makes any sense)I was watching the Surreal Life Reunion on VH1 and I saw a commercial for Diet Coke or Pepsi I cant remember which, and Carson was in it. Yippee. Oh and an update on Jai he is still hott. Lol. Ok I love and Miss you all.

Love Always
Heaven
*My teeter-totters broken*
JustTzujIt
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Ok, seeing as how I havent been on here in a while Im not quite sure if what I am about to say has been talked about already but I am so happy. As we all know Kyan is now doing commercials for Hair coloring stuff ( I forgot the brand name right now). We also know that the fabulous Thom is doing Pier 1 commercials. But like 10 minutes ago, or maybe it was a half an hour ago, oh who cares when but it was just a little bit ago today (if that makes any sense)I was watching the Surreal Life Reunion on VH1 and I saw a commercial for Diet Coke or Pepsi I cant remember which, and Carson was in it. Yippee. Oh and an update on Jai he is still hott. Lol. Ok I love and Miss you all.

Love Always
Heaven
*My teeter-totters broken*




Yep, it's Carson doing an ad campaign with Pepsi, and Kyan with L'Oreal Paris... however I'm pretty sure Thom's deal with Pier 1 is no more *sniff*...
design_daddy
It was my impression that cashiers just say somethings like..."did you find everything okay...hi...how are you today"..."
Beyond that, in my opinion, is a little snoopy in customer's purchases. If anybody sees it as "making conversation", etc. That is fine
notevayas
tomasulo informs..
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FYI, notey, "connected" means you have ties to The Mob.



tomasulo, tsk tsk tsk! Do you remember your first post to General Comments in November of 2003? You were crushing on the New Jersey cop, John Verdi. I wonder if he is still with his beautiful girlfriend. Remember when he started with the baby talk to her? ugh. It reminded me of last nights silly, self absorbed SG who served seafood to his girlfriend who didn't like fish!

My_guy_ky and I posted on Carson's but Bravo doesn't seem to have a thread up yet. Can't get it up, eh, Bravo??

Nevermind, I am looking back at TTB's early posts. I might repost some of my favorites.. Watch out!

notevayas

Remember this post from tomasulo?

#53 - 11/19/03 10:13 AM Edit Reply Quote
I'm sorry the new QE calendar doesn't show the birthdates for the Fab 5...does anyone out there know this info?
P.S. I'm a straight woman and he's a gay man.....but Thom in that cop uniform on the John V. episode fulfilled every fantasy I've ever had. Go figure.
tomasulo
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tomasulo informs..
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FYI, notey, "connected" means you have ties to The Mob.



tomasulo, tsk tsk tsk! Do you remember your first post to General Comments in November of 2003? You were crushing on the New Jersey cop, John Verdi. I wonder if he is still with his beautiful girlfriend. Remember when he started with the baby talk to her? ugh. It reminded me of last nights silly, self absorbed SG who served seafood to his girlfriend who didn't like fish!

My_guy_ky and I posted on Carson's but Bravo doesn't seem to have a thread up yet. Can't get it up, eh, Bravo??ohmy.gif

Nevermind, I am looking back at TTB's early posts. I might repost some of my favorites.. Watch out!

notevayas

Remember this post from tomasulo?

#53 - 11/19/03 10:13 AM Edit Reply Quote
I'm sorry the new QE calendar doesn't show the birthdates for the Fab 5...does anyone out there know this info?
P.S. I'm a straight woman and he's a gay man.....but Thom in that cop uniform on the John V. episode fulfilled every fantasy I've ever had. Go figure.









Oh my ghod....that's a blast from the past! I can't believe there was ever a time when I didn't know their birthdays!!! Thom in that cop uniform.....that will always be a classic! Good times! John V. is still the Champ when it comes to nauseating baby talk but James J. really tried to give him a run for his money! Thanks for the walk down memory lane, notey.
notevayas
I found ThomsTeddyBear's first post!
Re: Fab Five Fan Forum [Re: BravoBoardBoss]
#64 - 11/19/03 01:34 PM
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I am TOTALLY into QE! It is the only program I watch regularly on tv now. I think Thom is sooooo handsome! His features are so animated; I love to watch his expressions when he gets excited. Oh and his smile is to die for! He recently got his hair cut and I was upset because I drifted in those waves, but the new cut shows off more of his face and that is NEVER a bad thing.
ThomsTeddyBear




Later on, TTB talks about Thom's talent, but just like the Force that turned Carson physically around in his Diet Pepsi SuperBowl commercial, it was Thom's animal magnetism that brought TTB to this forum! Lucky for us!

May the Force be with you!
notevayas
raindog
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It was my impression that cashiers just say somethings like..."did you find everything okay...hi...how are you today"..."
Beyond that, in my opinion, is a little snoopy in customer's purchases. If anybody sees it as "making conversation", etc. That is fine




I recall getting quite annoyed at a bag boy making comments on several things I was buying - like a pint of ice cream, when he says "Wow, that's really expensive!!"

I'm thinking, "Will you PLEASE just bag my GROCERIES and try not to make comments on what a spendthrift I am, and how I really don't appear to need that pint of Haagen Daz and how maybe I ought to consider a bag of lettuce instead..."

Okay, he didn't comment on my poor nutritional choices, but it did annoy me. I was in a less than stellar mood that day, though, and didn't need chiding about being extravagant. Usually I don't mind a little chit-chat about what I'm purchasing.
signladybc
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It reminded me of last nights silly, self absorbed SG who served seafood to his girlfriend who didn't like fish!

My_guy_ky and I posted on Carson's but Bravo doesn't seem to have a thread up yet. Can't get it up, eh, Bravo??ohmy.gif




Yeah! That was an odd episode, wasn't it?
I died laughing when Jim couldn't kill the lobster (and I really am an animal rights supporter, REALLY!) both at the reactions of the FF and at Jim's tenacity.
In Jim's defense, he TOLD Ted that Lauren didn't care for fish, so in a way the faux pas is Ted's (oh, SHUT MY MOUTH!) and Jim just followed orders.
Also, I felt a little badly for Lauren. Maybe she WAS feeling green on the boat. She was a trouper to eat the fish if she doesn't care for fish. And, while she had commented that Jim talked too much, I think she was overwhealmed when he lobbed the ball into her court so abruptly. After all, we may not like all our significant other's idiosyncrasies, but we are USED to them!
And in his defense, while he sounded condescending with the 'baby talk', he was ALSO in a new place of trying to get her to talk more.
Now, I would agree, that the air around the two of them felt pretty cold from the moment Lauren came into the apartment, but again, we had just seen the sisters' effusiveness.
I wish the haiku part had been better planned, it was supposed to be romantic and seemed like just another task to be satisfied by Jim.
Loved the kitchen!!! And I don't even cook!
I guess overall it was a rather uneven episode and the chemistry was off throughout.
Cheers,
SLB _,,/
notevayas
Great post signladyb! It was an odd episode #144.. sort of a filler eh? So, James did mention that Lauren didn't like fish? Naughty Ted! And good for you for remembering the girlfriend's name.. I had no clue. She seemed a rather washed-out Lauren, but hard to judge from teevee I guess. I guess I'll post my comments here then, but first I found an interesting article that appealed to me as I was doing my "chores".
Jaw-jaw, not chore law
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Zoe Williams
Tuesday June 28, 2005

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It is to become law in Spain that men do as much housework as their wives. Well, it's not strictly speaking a law - more a change to the marriage contract to include a pledge to share cleaning burdens and such. It's coming in as a section of divorce reform, so that "he never did any washing up" will soon be fair grounds for parting, whereas before the idle spouse would have had to go to the Spanish equivalent of Brighton (Torremolinos?) with a hooker and a private [expletive deleted]. Nobody will actually be sent to prison for watching Biggos Brotheros when there were clearly chores to be done. But it "sends a message", said Margarita Uria, the parliamentarian who pushed for the clause.
I suggested much the same thing myself one time, when I was concocting the manifesto for a fourth political party, as part of a women's magazine jape - my plan was that tax would be paid in inverse proportion to the amount of housework a person did, so that a man doing an average amount (the figure at that time was 24 minutes a day, to a woman's two hours and a bit) would end up paying 75% tax, while his lady friend paid a quarter.

The truly crafty thing about my plan was that it wasn't really about the sexes at all, it was ushering in socialism through the back door - because, working on the assumption that the best-paid member of a household is generally speaking the most slothful, all households would end up paying way over 50% in tax. Plus, the complex monitoring systems (nationwide CCTV, finger sensors to register contact with Vim etc) would put the structures in place for me to become a totalitarian dictator when I wanted to take things a few steps further.

Nobody called me on this nefarious long game since it was, as I say, a jape; and I have to say that I'm surprised that any plan, anywhere in Europe, that resembled mine even a tiny bit ever got beyond the status of jape.

In Spain, the domestic burden on women appears very onerous - the average man spends 44 minutes a day on cleaning and 51 on childcare, while his wife spends nearly six hours on both. The figure is unenlightening, though, since it doesn't factor in how many women work full-time, so there must be spikes in the graph from women without jobs who do nearly everything about the house. I don't think anyone would seriously counter that it was misogynistic for the person who didn't have to go to work to do other stuff instead, even if that "other stuff" were the tedious business of cleaning. A lot of regular work is very tedious as well. My view is that in a household where two people work, the bulk of the cleaning is undertaken by the person with the highest standards. Technically speaking, it is unfair, since even a person with infinitesimally higher standards will end up doing the lion's share of the work. (You only need to think "I can no longer stand to look at that washing up" a minute before your spouse thinks it, and lo, you've done it.)

In peculiar relationships, couples vie to have the lowest standards and descend into unspeakable squalor. Otherwise, it might generally be women who do the cleaning, but as one of the third generation of fully employed females in my family, I can tell you that this is a cultural hangover, and will erode over time. Cleanliness isn't innate to the female psyche. I have a fragment of week-old Wotsit wedged in my keyboard, and that's why I rarely use the letter ... oh never mind.

What's curious and telling, I think, is that such an issue has to be addressed at a constitutional level, rather than a domestic one. Women, in other words, ought to be able to fight this battle themselves. What's wrong with negotiation? Whatever happened to old-fashioned nagging and moaning?

There's actually not a bad parallel with our Asbo debate. Where once neighbours would negotiate between themselves and, in the case of a particularly noxious neighbour, gather to voice their discontent, they now call the police. The police have no legislation on which to act, so sooner or later, the legislation is supplied. But legislation is a blunt and insensitive tool, so before you know it, eccentric or unpopular citizens get an Asbo for getting undressed with the curtains open or gardening in their pants. Large, flabby concepts - sociability, consideration, cleanliness, fairness - are best addressed on a small scale. The law is only really good for the small, concrete things that can be measured in cash or stitches.

So Ms Uria is right. This Spanish business does send a message, but the message is: "We Spanish women are too clean, and we aren't good enough at moaning." I want to say that they should take a masterclass from the French, but I'm scared of sounding like a Tory ...



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Yeah! That was an odd episode, wasn't it?
I died laughing when Jim couldn't kill the lobster (and I really am an animal rights supporter, REALLY!) both at the reactions of the FF and at Jim's tenacity.
In Jim's defense, he TOLD Ted that Lauren didn't care for fish, so in a way the faux pas is Ted's (oh, SHUT MY MOUTH!) and Jim just followed orders.




Where IS the thread??? The lobster sacrifice was really freaking me out. It was gruesome enough when the chef did it really quickly, but Jim's mutilation was just making me go EW EW EW EW EW EW EW EW EW EW EW EW!!!!" I'm pretty squeamish, though. Even that pig in the Texas one grossed me out.

I didn't catch that he told Ted his girlfriend didn't like fish - what was Ted thinking????
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Location: In Kyan's arms, where I belong, with my lips pressed against the side of his neck!
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:52 am
Post subject: Jai, do you need to go potty?

I hate how the teasers called tonight's episode "the most shocking", leading me to believe that it would be the nude one, but instead it was just our "girls" in the Loft being drama queens (yes, especially you, Miss Kyan! ) about the lobster getting cut. But I liked tonight's episode nonetheless. Many fans were liking last week's show for being like the original ones, but that SG really wasn't doing it for me and I found him somewhat offputting. For me, this episode was like my favorites. The SG was single and had a very messy apt. Our boys weren't upstaged by the SG so they really got to shine.


Carson must be reading my posts where I complain about Kyan wearing preppy clothes because he keeps dressing him that way, like tonight's show with the light blue polo shirt. Preppy suited the SG very well, however. Ky's whiskers were almost a beard this time.
Ky really brought the funny this time, too: when he showed his feminine side while pretending to iron Jai's hair w/waffle iron, in the salon when he didn't let Carson use scissors, pointing to him and saying, "That is what happens when ADHD goes undiagnosed" and especially when making fun of the SG talking baby talk to GF, he says, "Jai, do you need to go to the potty before you leave?" I often talk baby talk to my SG like Ky did to Jai because he's even more adorable than Jai.
I liked Kyan's outfit in The Loft, except for the Vans. Kyan, honey, if you were old enough to have worn them the first time around, you're too old to wear them now. =^.^=
It's been a while since I've seen a really droolworthy Kyan Hip Tip, but this time he was close up, which is always yummy!


Wow, Carson had on some fierce red and white printed pants that only he could've gotten away with! They appeared to fit uncomfortably tight, especially up front, but then again, it wouldn't surprise me if Carson had masochistic tendencies.
The SG liked plaid so much, I was surprised that Carson didn't take him to Burberry, but maybe there wasn't one nearby.


Thom's shirt was quite colorful.
I don't get why he had to be so destructive to the SG's fridge and cabinets prior to redoing his kitchen, but oh well.
The apartment came out looking amazing, just like in some of my favorite older eps., especially the shelves in the living room.


Okay, I was starting to get a bit nervous when, near the beginning, Jai has something in his mouth (note to self: must get mind outta the gutter ) and says, "Hey, is my smile a little yellow?" No, Jai, don't go there or I'll spank your little hiny! Leave it for the real commercials. Anyhoo, the SG had a very nice very white smile so thankfully the boys didn't have to go there!
The idea of the warm Epsom salt soak sounded cool. I'm glad Jai gave instruction to the SG on not interrupting others. Many people I've met need to be told just that.
The pink polo that Jai wore in The Loft looked good on him.

It's good that the SG was such a good cook, but before the MB, I wouldn't have wanted to eat anything in his home. Just like the old episode that I loved best, this one used some rather decadent ingredients: lobster, $100+ black truffles, creme fraiche, caviar, etc. WOW! Well maybe someday I'll be able to treat my own SG to something like that, but for now I can dream and salivate. Mmmm, seafood burritos.
I just loved the wicked way the Tedster laughed after the SG told him that he was also talkative.
Okay, Notevayas and others, what did you think of Ted winking his blue eye in his Hip Tip?


The SG's new haircut looked nice in a Gavin Rossdale kinda way. Ky did a great job of instructing him on product usage and telling him to keep his hands outta his hair. It not only will keep the hair looking nice but it's good to get rid of that mannerism anyway. I get annoyed at the way some women always do that with their hair, like every 10 seconds.
The GF even pissed my guy Kyan off. During the reveal, there were definitely some Taebee/Trenton Lisa moments.
I'm glad this show gave me enough to write about, as opposed to last week's.

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Post subject: LISTEN UP YOU FOOL!

Now, now, my_guy_ky! I would not have climbed behind the couch like Jai, but I definitely didn't want to watch that crustacean being torn apart alive! And I am no Drama Queen!
But I did hum several bars of "Under The Sea" from Disney"s "Little Mermaid".. And I squinted a bit..

At first I thought Yaay! We get a typical single slob, who, not having notevayas, gets the services of the Fab Five for a gay day and no nights.. Anywayhow, I was disappointed in James as soon as he opened his mouth. He chattered on and on.. sort of like my worst fantasy of Jai on a fishing trip. Guys don't have to be 6' or muscular or wealthy to get my attention, but they have to have some dignity except when they are consciously ditching it on occasion (like the Fab 5).

But even though the SG was a disappointment, the guys were a hoot! Carsons pants were such a red treat. He really knows how to work his a$$ets! Kyan looked like he was wearing a helmet of hair with two bottles of Product in it.. and he really is trying too hard with the facial hair! Ted looked absolutely edible! Jai and Thom are attractive, just not my cup of gay coolaid..

Kyan had some of the best lines during the lobster fiasco and also "That sweater is a little "Cat in the Hat" and "Jai do you have to go to the potty?"
Kyan will make a good father. But he was too tough on the SG's date. I'm sure that sometime in the SG's relationship that he was told that his girlfriend did not like fish. But he just didn't LISTEN! Kyan was good in getting the SG to see the wisdom of cutting off his mop of hair.. but what was left could have used a good washing! Hairwashing in the shower is a notevayas specialty.. Carson's washing hair in the salon was a fantasy for the ladies I'm sure. If Kyan didn't have to spend so much time convincing this guy to lose the greasy mop, he could have pushed a bit of exercise for the SG. I can sympathise because I was just as sickly looking as a kid.

I don't know what the heck Jai was going for by floating this guy in Epsom salt.. pickled SG? Salt water is good for the skin, but I defy anyone to tell me that going to a fussy spa, and floating in a public tub is more relaxing than a bath at home. ?! Just like sex, there are things that lose their charm if you have to PAY someone for it.

Ted.. Ted.. Ted.. Does Ted really understand what a picnic is? There is no such thing as a formal picnic on a sailboat Ted! If you try to make a formal picnic on a sailboat.. what happens? The girlfriend gets queasy and ends up with champagne in her shoes!
Kyan and company treated this girl like the infamous Taebe, but in both cases, with the hot Morroccan take-out and the seafood for the girlfriend who doesn't like fish, Ted didn't help matters.. Not that I care when it's so funny! And both guys were named James, right? But seriously, seasick and eating seafood you don't like with a camera in your face? She did OK not to barf over the side of the boat!

I forgot to say how great a job Thom did, after his fiasco last week. What a beautiful kitchen.. great idea to extend the shelving there.
I don't generally like glass-topped tables, but Thom was a genius to use one to open up the space in the livingarea!

Carson chose great colors but a hodgepodge (yep, I used the word hodgepodge!) of terrible styles. I agree with my_guy_ky that preppy can be overdone. And it should be against the law for any educator, even one who teaches finger painting, to wear "patch on the elbow" jackets! This guy was exotic enough in his looks and hairstyle that he would have elevated a more conservative look with the right color accents. And with this guy's, shall we say, unusual personality, he did not need the eclectic clothes. I don't want to get into a big race conversation, but if Carson was trying to dress him for success, there is more leeway for white guys in style as in everything else. But dressing for pity may help with the ladies.. From the looks of things, he may have gained a kitchen and lost a lady..

All in all, an entertaining show. But I much preferred last weeks SG! This guy had attractive eyes also, but was completely clueless and self-absorbed. A dud. But the Fab Five make the show and they shined as always!

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what's with all the killing on a show latey I can't take it I went veg a long time ago no more they should make over a vegan

I liked what they did with his hair I did't think he'd go short. it worked much much better with his curls
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what's with all the killing on a show latey I can't take it



What or Who else got killed on QE?

I dunno.. I'm thinking alone on a deserted island.. James might come in handy with his detemination to put lunch in the pot. We'd just have to find something more productive for him to do with his mouth.

notevayas
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