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Share your thoughts on Mark's tranformation from volleyball coach and golfer to volleyball coach, golfer and romantic husband.
ThomsTeddyBear
Ok, watching Mark Fi...so far - LOVE THOM IN THAT COAT!! And his hair is quite wavy...~SWOON~

OOO! Thom on a ladder! Thom on a ladder...hmmm, getting ideas...

...I'll need a ladder to put up a border around my ceiling! What were you thinking!...yeah, I was thinking that too

Kyan looks great, his hair is in true form!

Who would have thought you could find decent clothes in a golf store? Carson did! I liked the first outfit he put him in.

Jai made a hole in one! He beat Mark! And imagine, they thought Jai could only dance or get tickets. And the locket, lovely!!
(Fingers most precious QE locket that does not leave neck - sends Tomasulo another {{{BIG HUG}}} )

*commercial begins..."DRINK XXXX BEER!"...commercial ends*

OMG, I love that brown color Thom used in the house! There is actually CONTRAST in their home now!

EYES! EYES! EYES!
Sorry, had a Thom moment

I like all the clothes in the fashion show except the red sweater...seemed to accentuate his tummy. Or maybe it's just me.

EYES! EYES! EYES! D, HELP ME!! (she knows) AND DON'T FORGET THE COAT!

Ted looks AMAZING in that suit up in the loft!

Thom: "IF YOU RUIN THAT FURNITURE, I'LL KILL YOU!"..."Wouldn't that be embarrasing to be a coach and get your a$$ kicked by a gay decorator?"

LOL

Did you hear his wife? "It's the effort that matters." Now that's a mate who's thinking!

[School really should not release me early after finals, I must then subject people to my sanity...or lack thereof]

TTB - still focused on eyes eyes eyes!
celtic_wench
{{gasp}}Kyan...bubble...bath...need oxy...{{thunk}}
abidwell31
As an old friend of Marks, it was actually nice to see that even after all these years, he hasn't changed a bit!! I'm sure that Cindy is appreciating the "new and improved version" and it is great to see Mark doing so well!! We wish him all the best and hope to see him soon - lots of love from the Moreland E-3 Eliminators!!! love, Mama!!!
my_guy_ky
I really liked this one. Although Mark Fi. attempted to be more romantic, it didn't make the episode subdued, sappy or saccharine. (Ooh, those 3 S's!) They were a fun couple who had a great sense of humor and were really appreciative of all that the Fab 5 had done. And there was tons of snark at the beginning and good jokes one right after the other. It had kind of an Adam Z. tone to it. And those girls on his team must've been having a blast being on the show.
My favorite parts in the beginning:

    the "Mr. Roper" outfit
    Jai with the booby creamer
    Carson burning the clothes! I could not believe it!
    Thom's line about Carson going to prison for that and people lining up to be his cellmate
    Carson taking the pregnancy test
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    Carson and Jai had some great ideas that really worked with Mark, not against him. Jai hit a hole in one with the virtual golf idea! Unfortunately, his hair in his Hip Tip did not. I love him in cute little curls, but this made him look like Horshack.

    Okay, Kyan my sweet, you did well as always, but while you had him at that swanky spa, WHY didn't you get his back waxed?!
    I cannot stop drooling over Kyan. I don't like the facial hair look on any other man, but seeing him with those wiskers makes me envision waking up with him. ~~swoon~~ His hair was down in the front - my favorite. One thing, though, handsome: Is Carson's flip contagious? I love his hair flippy in the back, but yours needs a trim. Oh, lawd! Don't get me started on that bubblebath Hip Tip!!! Wayyy too many bubbles covering everything up! And don't anybody ask me what the hell he said in that Hip Tip, because it all went in one ear, and out the other!
DiogenesArktos
I'd like an episode called Bear Eye for the Fab Five. I'm tired of hearing how ugly back hair is. There are enough men (and women!) who do find it a turn on that they shouldn't do their automatic 'how gross' routine. I'm also amazed that they actually let a straight guy keep his beard.

BTW - I'm ecstatic about Kyan's five o'clock shadow.
Depoetic
...M -*- A -*- R -*- K...
Make bad fashion GO AWAY!
Carson, Kyan, Ted -n- Thom...
-n- Jai are here - YOU CAN'T GO WRONG!
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How cute was this coach? It's so cool his wife and Varsity Women's Volleyball team turned him in to the Fab 5 to make Mark eat his own words... Make 'em earn it!

Ok, Carson, so now I'm in love with Ralph Lauren Purple Lable couture! GASP!

As always, first the Gentlemen Five:

Ted was so sizzlin' in pink! I had to giggle when he grabbed Mark's wife, Cindy and said, "We've come to SAVE you!" and then laugh when he told Mark about the team turning him in... "Those women! Schemers!" (Must have caught a glimpse of TTB's master planning room...) I wish Ted had been there to comment about Mark putting hot sauce on EVERYTHING...! (One has to wonder... if you reduce the hot sauce intake... would you then keep the thermostat set at the "Carson number"?) I can't (No, I can,) believe Ted and Carson used that coffee table as a sled! I was cracking up when they crashed and both had an "oops" moment: "COUTURE!" Kudos to Ted for taking Mark to a place where he could find all gluten free ingredients for Cindy and ideas for future romantic meals! I loved how he cringed during the parfait's prep. (Poor Teddy!) I SERIOUSLY loved the pink shirt w/tie, black coat with velvet collar and -Ted, you looked tres FAB in that black suit during the reveal! (I nearly choked when you leaned over open mouthed when Carson chided about wanting more romance! Ted, you just SLAY me!

Jai was a charmer as always! I SO enjoyed him dressing up in the theatre costume of the Firefighter and speaking so authoritatively in the attic! (I can't believe Cindy puts up with a boob-cream decanter !) Jai was always to gentle and kind as he carefully listened to both Cindy and Mark - and was so beautifully intuitive about how to best get (1) Mark to relax and open up as well as (2) to be open to instruction about the need for turning the focus on to Cindy. (Must say, I blushed when Jai made the "cherry" joke!) I appreciated that Jai made an effort on Mark's behalf to create an intimate gift for Cindy. And as always -- Hurrah for kind instruction on the creation of truly special moments with your mate. Jai, hon - loved you in the sweater and tie ensemble - and cream colored sweater at the reveal! Yum!

Hmmm... Kyan, did you wax the back hair off at the salon, I wonder? I loved when he said, "Put down the golf clubs and pick up your WIFE!" There were several silly moments: Kyan gagging when Mark's socks came off, (...About that freeze pic...?! ) Ky: "You know what you get when you don't brush?" Car: "Plaques!" (LOL!) 18th, 19th and 20th holes! (LOL!) I was so impressed with how gentle he was with Mark about the instructions on scalp care - as well as how genuinely he listened to Mark's issues. (And weren't the shots in the B-room with Ky backlit just STUNNING?) I loved that he emphasized to Mark how his clothes AND hair needed to be different when spending time w/Cindy - to emphasize that their time is SPECIAL! I loved his trip to Elizabeth Arden Red Door (my fave perfume!) so that Mark would know a place to take Cindy for pampering. Sigh... Ky - I seriously luv'd you in both suits! You dress up extremely well hon!

CARSON! Hurrah for the designer choices - both for the Fab 5 and for Mark! Between the fetal-position curl on the 'baby' couch, and the pregnancy testing - I almost couldn't BREATHE! (Remember what Carson said about Red Shoes in the Marine epi? ) Carson is as much a comic genius as he is a fashion savant! I was laughing to the point of TEARS! I COULDN'T believe he had a couture bon fire! Fave #; 69, "I like when I'm hot at both ends"! ! I liked the 3C's of the wardrobe: Course, Court and Cindy. Thanks for the tips about soild color (nose to toes) for shorties like me, and for having the seam reset to the shoulder. The gift of the whistle was cool, but the clubs just floored me! WOW! Carson - darlin', You were Lucious in Leather at the reveal hon!

Now, Thom... how many gals had my same flashback? Thom in the Staten Island Cop's uniform? That jacket, that blue kercheif around the neck, that coat... **THUD** ...Oh, I'm sorry! When I saw Thom playing with the psuedo-Star Trek static lamp, I just thought of that ol' "Borg" phrase: Resistance is FUTILE! ...And WHO can resist? (Sigh!) (and YEAH! The curls are back!) Sorry... trying to be serious here... Thom comments? Hysterical: "I don't think the EPA's gonna be too happy about this. Carson will just have to go to prison. They'll be lining up to be HIS cell-mate!" (ROFL!) "I felt bad Carson BURNED your shirts!" and: "Shouldn't a guy TREAT his WIFE?" This epi REALLY spotlighted Thom! I learned so much! Know age and architectural style of home, blend coordinated furnishings with home's age and style, mix set pieces, remove redundancies... WOW! ...And (naturally) it was a STELLAR transformation! Such elegance! I loved Thom's comments during the reveal: "If you ruin that furniture I'll kill you!" (ROFL!) Thom, hon - you were truly stunning. (Whew!)

And now our dear straight guy...

Mark had a great personality! What a great wife, cute kid, friends and cool group of girls on the team! I was cracking up when he put on the red shoes Thom found and tango'd with Ted! (LOL!) He said heels were EASY?? Try 'em for 8 HRS., buddy! (LOL!) Ah, When they got to the LOTR's/3Bears cottage home we once again had a toy sitch! (Didn't they see Adam Zolta? ) TONS of ice cream! Ahem, ...Coach? It was cool that he was able to agree that he needed to put a greater focus on his wife. I loved that he acknowledged (1)his wife's patience and forgiving nature, (2)Change is good, (3)Needs to be more romantic, and (4)a guy's gotta treat his wife too. I felt sorry Carson made him burn a shirt and that he had to rush so much and the recipe fell apart on him. I liked the fact that neither Carson nor Kyan let him get away with the "I'm not comfortable being touched" statements. Mark was a great coach with a strong - sometimes comic - presence. It's obvious why the kids adore him. (Loved the game! Glad y'all won!) I loved how hard he tried with Cindy and that he said, "Let's not let one another down - I love you, you're beautiful." I hope that Mark continues with Jai's advice to commit to a regular romantic time.

I hope we can all say about this one:
"XOXO Luv the Fab 5's Fans"
Peace! --De
Depoetic
You know, I'm secretly afraid the Bravo Board Boss dreads seeing my ID... TOO LONG WINDED! (Sigh) ...But I wanted to throw my buck fifty in on the family and Varsity team too.

How spunky and cute was Cindy? Just a little Pixie! While I STILL can't believe she let's Mark get away with that creamer... I thought she kept a pretty cool house. (See what happens? When it's clean, the guys can DO MORE FABULOUS STUFF to it!) She was a great sport to let the Gentlemen Five come in and trash her house. I wasn't really catching the depth of her statement to Jai, "He's not really romantic," until she said... What? HE PROPOSED DURING AN NYPD COMMERCIAL??? {Oh, honey... Mark MUST work on THAT aspect!} (Sigh!) I can't believe she let Mark talk her into using a golf term for their son's middle name! (Then again, a friend of mine did the same thing - "Grant" - 'cause he was applying for College money... ) I cheered when she said, "Now, have fun and listen to the teachers - because now YOU'RE the student!" Thom: "OMG! I love you're wife! she's just the best!" (BIG HUG) Cindy to Thom: "I should've married YOU!"
**De peeks around to see if TTB was listening**
...Even *I* had an 'Alley McBeal' moment when Ted said, "Well, THAT wouldn't have worked out so well...SERIOUSLY!"
SSSSeeeeeww-wumpth, wumpth, wumpth!! The three arrows through the heart! (Sigh... reality creeps in, yet again...)
I loved how stunned she was about the home's decor and rearrangement. (Yeah to Mark saying: "That's why they're pros!") Kudos to Cindy for saying, "It's the effort that matters." Cindy - big hugs! (And LOVED the bead-fringed top!)

The Pelham Memorial HS Women's Varsity Team was so cool! Once again... I wonder what it's like to find yourself on a TV program that will broadcast WORLD WIDE when you're just a teenager! How fun of them to put in the rescue call to the Fab 5 for their coach! I loved that they recognised the whistle came from Tiffany's! (Where ELSE would Carson go for it! ) I loved they recognised the hair looked more full and how they cheered their coach for his new look. (Kudos for Mark that he thanked them so graciously and made sure they knew he appreciated what they did for he and Cindy.) I thought the game was great, and I'm SO glad they won!

I also had to laugh when the friend said, "Oh, Well, when he(Mark) realizes it's all dry clean only....!!! LOL!"

And finally - Jack, sweetie, you're SUCH a itty bitty cutie!

I hope everyone had tons of fun - 'cause this was SURE fun to watch!

Peace and grace to you all... GO TEAM! --De

~~Carson: "There's no 'I' in TEAM... there IS, a M - E, though!! LOL"~~
Wannabefab
This episode may have been a little more low-key than most, but the straight guy was a little more conservative, as well. I think he is a really great guy who wanted to look more professional at his work, and more attractive for his wife. The "boys" were perfect, as always, in tailoring their energy and choices to his lifestyle. I find it really a testament to their caring and (let's be honest) genius, that they can be wild and over the top for James M., who needed to be loosened up, and to keep it calm and real for Mark Fi..
Great job as always guys!
Wannabe
btw--Am I the only one who thought that their baby was just the snuggliest little chunk? Maybe it's my overactive Mommy gene.
Passion4Fasion
that one hasnt been on yet. in Aus its upto sum guy with a mullet and everything. o.O cant w8 to see it
tomasulo
Jai was really adorable in this episode.....he has a great ability to touch the heart of a relationship. Thom's hair looked wonderful....(time out while I drool)...and the changes he made in Mark and Cindy's home were spectacular. Carson giving Mark the engraved whistle and telling him to "blow me" gave me a giggle.
thoms_pirateboi
Hey! I just joined, and I'm a HUGE "Queer Eye" fan! happy.gif well, Thom is my favorite, but I also love Carson's wit, and I love Kyan's ultimate sexah-ness!

To the show last night, I loved how they made over his life without changing his look! happy.gif His hair DID look so much fuller!

I loved the quote, "Those rascally gays moved my dining room!" (which the S.G.'s wife said!! happy.gif)

I loved the trasformation, and it was a GREAT episode! Boy, did I miss my Fab5!!

-Thoms_pirateboi-
EstlinClichy
This episode was a dud. It seemed like scraps of past episodes. The Fab 5 were generally dull; the subject was dull; his wife was dull; girls volleyball is dull.

Where to begin? It was almost as if the Fab 5 were resting on their laurels. Or worse, coasting on their past successes.

Mark never really got a make-over, but rather a make-do. His hair looked the same, his body hair the same, his frumpy look the same. It's unbelievable to me that this guy is a Phys-Ed teacher and he looked like the Pillsbury doughboy. Kyan should have gotten him on an exercise regimen.

His house may have been too big for a genuine re-do; therefore, the Fab 5 concentrated on two rooms, which, although they did look better, seemed flat and lifeless. The house itself seemed cold and sterile, and that has nothing to do with Mark's keeping the thermostat down. The kitchen showed no warmth. Talk about anal retentive. And what's with these parents who turn the main rooms of the house into a playground, colorful as these children's toys may be? It proved to me that if it weren't for that kid, the Finnegans would not have stayed married.

Frankly, I didn't think the Finnegan's dining room table was all that bad. Maybe it belonged in another part of the house, as Thom decided, but it wasn't that bad of a dining room set. Kyan didn't have much to do, or didn't do much, depending on your point of view. Maybe they weren't allowed to touch the bathroom golf shrine. All he ended up doing was teach the guy how not to have dandruff. How could anybody at Scout Productions have thought that was interesting?

Jai looked cuter than he ever has, and was later seen on tape Tuesday night on Celebrities Uncensored (different channel) tooling around with James, formerly of Bravo's gay dating show, Boy Meets Boy. But the problem with Jai persists. He is too young to have a real grasp of "culture," which is an understanding of art, literature, music, film, philosiphy, etc. Jai has few life experiences and not much depth, and the prompting he's getting from his producers (those invented touchy-feely sessions with the subject) are wearing thin. He's not Oprah.

Ted was his usual wry self, and thank goodness for that. However, if the subject Mark hadn't screwed up the dessert, we wouldn't even have had that comic mish-mash to keep us awake. The star of this episode was Carson. His zingers were good, as expected, and he kept me alert.

As for Mr. Finnegan and his wife, what a sad marriage they're in. I would dread seeng these two in 40, 20, or even ten years. If they last that long. He has about as much romantic soul as a fish. Not to knock fish. The camera doesn't lie. Maybe it adds ten pounds, but it sure doesn't lie.

There is absolutely NO spark between Mr. and Mrs. Finnegan. The guy is a schlub. When they sat on the couch eating the failed dessert I was stunned at how uninterested she was and how bland he was. Maybe she wasn't too happy about the re-do of her two rooms. Maybe she was thinking, the Fab 5 came and all I got was this lousy raspberry "soup." And maybe she just wasn't happy with her husband.

As for him, he was clearly unsure about his new clothes; hence the clownish faux pratfall when he entered the volleyball court. He was wearing sunglasses to hide himself, and you don't have to be Freud to know that. By trying to make a joke of it, he projected how uncomfortable he is in his own skin.

I hope there are some new episodes on the horizon because the season shouldn't end with this misfire.
jgfromkc
Why didn't they make him cut his hair & beard? The house looked good & the clothes were better, but this wasn't my favorite. I thought the relationship with his wife was weird. Even weirder was the relationship with his students. Also - why did he get ready at the school.
kys_grace
OMG!!How funny was it when the wife said to Thom "I should have married you." and Ted says"Actually,I don't think that would have worked out."I thought immediately of TTB
Depoetic
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As an old friend of Marks, it was actually nice to see that even after all these years, he hasn't changed a bit!! I'm sure that Cindy is appreciating the "new and improved version" and it is great to see Mark doing so well!! We wish him all the best and hope to see him soon - lots of love from the Moreland E-3 Eliminators!!! love, Mama!!!




(((Big Hugs))) to you and welcome to the boards! If you talk to Mark and Cindy - tell 'em we LOVED the show and hope they stop by the boards to let us pick their brains about the experience!

Peace to you today! --De
Depoetic
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Hey! I just joined, and I'm a HUGE "Queer Eye" fan! -Thoms_pirateboi-




Welcome to the Boards! Hope you visit often! (Yuppers, we missed the Gentlemen Five too!)--De
Depoetic
I remain ever amazed at the number of critics about Jai. Even after the dozens of interviews given in his defence by David Collins, David Metzler, the other Fab boys and many Straight Guys.

Still... one of my favorites is over on page 164 of the "Fab 5 Forum" thread (mid way down) by "raihardy". I tried to quote it, but it was simply too long, and the BBB chopped it down.

You know, thinking Jai's job is lackluster is like thinking that Scout Productions really only has one hour of tape to show. (Or that the person you were just speaking to simply disappears from the face of the earth once he or she is no longer within your view.)

The creators credit him as the hardest working guy on the team. ...But you'd actually have to make an effort to go find and read the articles. (I know, it's easier to just sit on your couch and ruminate.)

Oh well... **De, don't argue with the ones who just DON'T GET IT... no matter how you try they STILL won't get it!** ...(Sigh.) Peace. --De
ThomsTeddyBear
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{{gasp}}Kyan...bubble...bath...need oxy...{{thunk}}




ROFL! Omg, I love the Kyanites!
jeffh
Was it just me? Woke up from a quick nap to flip the show on, and in my stupor I thought, "Oh, my God, they're making over Ricky Gervais from "The Office".
ThomsTeddyBear
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Hey! I just joined, and I'm a HUGE "Queer Eye" fan! happy.gif well, Thom is my favorite, but I also love Carson's wit, and I love Kyan's ultimate sexah-ness!

To the show last night, I loved how they made over his life without changing his look! happy.gif His hair DID look so much fuller!

I loved the quote, "Those rascally gays moved my dining room!" (which the S.G.'s wife said!! happy.gif)

I loved the trasformation, and it was a GREAT episode! Boy, did I miss my Fab5!!

-Thoms_pirateboi-




Welcome thoms pirate boi! We don't see alot of husbands here so stick around!

Pirates of the Carribean - GREAT movie!
EstlinClichy
REGARDING THIS COMMENT FROM DEPOETIC: "You know, thinking Jai's job is lackluster is like thinking that Scout Productions really only has one hour of tape to show. (Or that the person you were just speaking to simply disappears from the face of the earth once he or she is no longer within your view.)"

Well, guess what? There actually is a Philosophy that believes that's how life works. The perception part, not the videotape part. The philosophy is called Berkeleianism. It's the product of an Irish philosopher and Bishop named George Berkeley (1685 - 1753). He believed that things did not exist unless you perceived them. Basically, that once you didn't see something, it no longer was extant. Nothing exists except what you see and when you don't see it, it doesn't exist. Pretty cool, hunh?

For starters, I didn't note that Jai was lackluster. I implied that he was out-of-his-league. Too young for this particular school. He's basically a club kid. There's no harm in pointing out that Jai has no depth. He shouldn't be expected to have depth. He's barely an adult. He's like that cute, but bland, red-headed, 16-year old singer on the current American Idol. No life experiences and nothing to share.
FiliciaFanatic
Kyan in the tub was positively captivating, in that speechless, can't-move kind of way.

But the real highlight for me image-wise was Thom's hair -- it's finally reached the perfect length, a little longer and a bit wavy (mmm, wouldn't I love to run my fingers through that) but not so long it looks femme. (Mind you, I think he's hot no matter how his hair looks, but I think this was the best length.)
Passion4Fasion
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Jai was really adorable in this episode.....he has a great ability to touch the heart of a relationship. Thom's hair looked wonderful....(time out while I drool)...and the changes he made in Mark and Cindy's home were spectacular. Carson giving Mark the engraved whistle and telling him to "blow me" gave me a giggle.




You make it seem good =P lol at Carson doing that
topfabfivefan
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This episode was a dud. It seemed like scraps of past episodes. The Fab 5 were generally dull; the subject was dull; his wife was dull; girls volleyball is dull.



Mark never really got a make-over, but rather a make-do. His hair looked the same, his body hair the same, his frumpy look the same. It's unbelievable to me that this guy is a Phys-Ed teacher and he looked like the Pillsbury doughboy. Kyan should have gotten him on an exercise regimen.

I hope there are some new episodes on the horizon because the season shouldn't end with this misfire.





ok, kinda agree with this..not one of my fave episodes...a little uhmmm, off? .. i thought it was cute to include the team, but too close on the heels of the mullet man's Carly teenage party... also, yea, agreed about the phys ed teacher thing, he should be a little more buff, no? and his wife's lack of excitement, but I guess not everyone cries over Thom's work (tho I cannot imagine NOT ..I would for sure, Thom is amazing)
As always, tho, the boyz shine thru and make the episode interesting enough to stick with, I disagree with the boyz seeming dull....but not one of the best ever. PLEASE, JUST NO MORE DJ'S OR STAND UP COMEDIANS THAT ARE JUST USING QE TO FURTHER THEIR EXPOSURE...PLEASE... these regular guys are the way to go...keep it real, F5!!
Depoetic
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(School really should not release me early after finals, I must then subject people to my sanity...or lack thereof)TTB - still focused on eyes eyes eyes!




LOL - I had some serious **GASP** moments myself!
Hey -- TTB, When ARE your finals? What's next after these courses? Hope you do well!

((Much Luck!)) --Peace. --De
raindog
Well, I want their house, for one thing. I love those 1920s era houses. After Thom the Magician transformed it, of course. And I didn't think it was possible to find cool golf clothes, so snaps to Carson! AND I thought it was very admirable of Cindy to tell Mark it's the thought that counts, despite the sad looking parfait. She even praised the taste.

Why was Mark dressing in his gym office, though? That was kind of weird, although I'm sure there's a perfectly good explanation.
Depoetic
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Jai hit a hole in one with the virtual golf idea! Unfortunately, his hair in his Hip Tip did not. I love him in cute little curls, but this made him look like Horshack.



LOL! So THAT's where I've seen that look before!
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One thing, though, handsome: Is Carson's flip contagious? I love his hair flippy in the back, but yours needs a trim. Oh, lawd!




I just watched a repeat - and was struck by the same thing! Why is it I see things and think, "Oh, I just can't STAND that!" and then I see it on our guys and think, "Hmmmmm... YUMMY!"?

The little "ducky feathering" flips were cute on all the guys - but as the show progressed - hair like Ted's got a wee bit TOO ducky! LOL! And did you see all the funky little twists in Thom's and Ted's hair during the reveal? I just thought of Kyan laying on SG Richard M.'s bed twisting Thom's hair. !

...They all did seem a bit tired... Well, with Bravo sliding back into more re-runs, here's hoping they all go find a beach somewhere to relax on and rest up. We want our boys bouncin' back soon!

(Hmmmmm... I wonder if Thom ever finished that house in the Bahamas?)

Peace and grace to you today. --De
ThomsTeddyBear
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OMG!!How funny was it when the wife said to Thom "I should have married you." and Ted says"Actually,I don't think that would have worked out."I thought immediately of TTB




See, that's where I would have MADE it work out!

"Hello? Dr. Uma Baga-Smith? Remember that sex change I was inquiring about?..."
ThomsTeddyBear
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I remain ever amazed at the number of critics about Jai. Even after the dozens of interviews given in his defence by David Collins, David Metzler, the other Fab boys and many Straight Guys.

Still... one of my favorites is over on page 164 of the "Fab 5 Forum" thread (mid way down) by "raihardy". I tried to quote it, but it was simply too long, and the BBB chopped it down.

You know, thinking Jai's job is lackluster is like thinking that Scout Productions really only has one hour of tape to show. (Or that the person you were just speaking to simply disappears from the face of the earth once he or she is no longer within your view.)

The creators credit him as the hardest working guy on the team. ...But you'd actually have to make an effort to go find and read the articles. (I know, it's easier to just sit on your couch and ruminate.)

Oh well... **De, don't argue with the ones who just DON'T GET IT... no matter how you try they STILL won't get it!** ...(Sigh.) Peace. --De




Here, try the brick. Oh nevermind, the last one crumbled too.
tomasulo
TTB: You made my day! Many many hugs in return. (I'm still drooling over Thom's hair so this could be messy.)
KyansBabe
If Kyan gets anymore sexy, I may have to have a sex change operation so I at least have a chance at him! OMG!!! That soft and sexy voice he uses when he has the guys at a spa is killing me. When he was talking to Mark about taking care of his scalp, I was dying. This man sends me to a whole new level! And the hip tip in the tub is just plain cruel! Damn those bubbles! I still have no idea what he actually is saying, since I start drooling immediately when they show it. The stubble on his face is sexy as all get out and he has such an amazing smile. I love to hear him giggle like he did in this episode. I must admit too that Thom looked cute in this one. When Mark's wife made the comment about marrying Thom and he kissed her, I thought of our own beloved ThomsTeddyBear. I bet she was dying!
ThommyGirl
I had a huge distraction while watching this episode. Thom!I thought he was extra hot in this episode. I mean, he always is but there was just something about him in this particular episode that had me lusting even more than usual. I found myself in a deep, trance-like state everytime he was on the screen. I missed half the dialog because of him. (It's a good thing I tape every episode)He looked incredible in that outfit! He needs to dress like that more often. Also, his hair looked fantastic. I missed him with the longer hair and waves.
ThomsTeddyBear
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Well, guess what? There actually is a Philosophy that believes that's how life works. The perception part, not the videotape part. The philosophy is called Berkeleianism. It's the product of an Irish philosopher and Bishop named George Berkeley (1685 - 1753). He believed that things did not exist unless you perceived them. Basically, that once you didn't see something, it no longer was extant. Nothing exists except what you see and when you don't see it, it doesn't exist. Pretty cool, hunh?




That's right everyone, so just stop breathing that air right now because it doesn't really exist! WHAT?? Who was that who said we have a soul! You just cut out that nonsense right this minute!

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For starters, I didn't note that Jai was lackluster. I implied that he was out-of-his-league. Too young for this particular school. He's basically a club kid. There's no harm in pointing out that Jai has no depth. He shouldn't be expected to have depth. He's barely an adult.




And s/he should know because you know they were Jai in another life. The psychic connection is still there - they can see directly into Jai's head and everything that goes on in his life! WHAT?! Who said a psyhic connection doesn't exist because you can't see it! We'll have none of that there sarcasm, youngun!

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He's like that cute, but bland, red-headed, 16-year old singer on the current American Idol. No life experiences and nothing to share.




John Stevens - hometown boy of Buffalo, NY (Amherst, suburb specifically) - my hometown. His experience? Bringing together the hearts of the Buffalo supporters that back him...and getting farther into the limelight than you or I. What he has to share? His voice, which is 1000 friggin' times better than your's or mine. And his heart - he's a good kid and I'd rather him be a bland and honest good kid than someone with say...hmmm, no tact?

People's experiences are different and they share different things...it ALL contributes to society and makes the individual as important any ANYone else.

TTB
raindog
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Was it just me? Woke up from a quick nap to flip the show on, and in my stupor I thought, "Oh, my God, they're making over Ricky Gervais from "The Office".




That is EXACTLY who he looked like!! I knew he reminded me of somebody, but couldn't pin it down.
raindog
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He believed that things did not exist unless you perceived them. Basically, that once you didn't see something, it no longer was extant. Nothing exists except what you see and when you don't see it, it doesn't exist. Pretty cool, hunh?




This is very odd, because it's exactly how I was explaining my organization method at work today to someone else. It's the "if I don't see it, it's not really there" theory. And it's why I keep everything I'm working on piled on my desk, because if I put it away it ceases to exist and I never think of it again until it has become a crisis.

Of course, I think the fact that something which has ceased to exist could still produce a crisis in its non-existent state may kind of disprove Berkeley's theory.

Otherwise, I could just burn everything on my desk and go home.
ThomsTeddyBear
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(School really should not release me early after finals, I must then subject people to my sanity...or lack thereof)TTB - still focused on eyes eyes eyes!




LOL - I had some serious **GASP** moments myself!
Hey -- TTB, When ARE your finals? What's next after these courses? Hope you do well!

((Much Luck!)) --Peace. --De




Oral presentation panel was last week
Logic and Design was Monday
Handed in Critical Thinking paper today
Access test was Monday - I passed! And my Access project actually worked! How the Hades did I do that?!
I was supposed to go straight through but I'm not 18 anymore. I'm taking the summer off to keep up with my health. I'll settle, re-energize, then explode on the scene again renewed

A little schpeel, may I?

On considering people useless. I would not have passed my Access test if not for the mind of a young man who everyone likes to call annoying. He has ADHD. You'd think someone would realize this but all they did was call him "annoying" to his face. So that's how he sees himself - "I'm annoying, everyone says I am." But he's not annoying, he's interesting. He took the time to tutor me, while concealing his problems in passing English - his weakness. If he fails, and it looks like he will, he loses his scholarship and cannot stay in college. It is really sad because he cannot afford college and his mind's potential is astounding. If I could ever form my own technology company, I'd want him as a partner.

Payment for tutoring me was a ride home, he lives far away. He would talk all the way there about events in his life...no one knows how hard he had it and I won't say what happened. I'm still taking him home even though my tutoring is done - I like listening to him talk. And I am glad I took the time to know him - he's a sweet kid.

You never know what's going on in someone's life. You don't know their strengths, and you don't know their weaknesses; but if you look with MORE than your eyes, there's so much of them that is clear to see.

TTB
ThomsTeddyBear
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I must admit too that Thom looked cute in this one. When Mark's wife made the comment about marrying Thom and he kissed her, I thought of our own beloved ThomsTeddyBear. I bet she was dying!




*counting..."28,234 dollars...28,235 dollars...28,236 dollars..."...takes penny jar and empties it...*

Huh? Oh sorry, I was counting out the funds for my sex change.

*28,236 dollars and 6 cents, 28,236 dollars and 7 cents...*
my_guy_ky
Thoms_pirateboi, your screen name is awesome!
kyansgirl
I know EXACTLY what you are saying!!!! Was he more incredibly gorgeous than ever with that stubble, or what????? Then, the bubble bath, SIGH!!!!!! Oh my, oh my, oh my goodness, Kyan!!!!!!! This man is so delicious and drool worthy, it sometimes does suck to be female!!!!


Hugs,
Jilly
my_guy_ky
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This episode was a dud. It seemed like scraps of past episodes. The Fab 5 were generally dull; the subject was dull; his wife was dull; girls volleyball is dull.



Wow. Aren't you one of the folks who took issue with my opinion of the John Z. episode? Well, I thought this one was more entertaining than that one. JMO.

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But the problem with Jai persists. He is too young to have a real grasp of "culture,"...



I, for one, am glad that Jai is young. Without him, it would be a gay "thirtysomething" (no offense to those in that age group, but mix it up a little, I say). Also, youth is an advantage for the Culture Vulture, because younger people generally tend to be in the loop and on top of the latest trends and happenings.

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As for Mr. Finnegan and his wife, what a sad marriage they're in. I would dread seeng these two in 40, 20, or even ten years.



I thought they appeared to have a great marriage, aside from her being a "golf widow". In a way, I kind of hope this comment gets the kind of backlash that mine got in the Mark Fa. board.
Wannabefab
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There actually is a Philosophy that believes that's how life works. The perception part, not the videotape part. The philosophy is called Berkeleianism. It's the product of an Irish philosopher and Bishop named George Berkeley (1685 - 1753).



Ummm. You wouldn't, by any chance, mean the mathmetician Berkely? The one that was pretty much smeared to a quivering pulp by Sir Isaac Newton? (not to mention James Jurin and Benjamin Robins) Sorry, not a big fan of The Analyst. I think the guy is a fruitcake.

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For starters, I didn't note that Jai was lackluster. I implied that he was out-of-his-league. Too young for this particular school. He's basically a club kid. There's no harm in pointing out that Jai has no depth. He shouldn't be expected to have depth. He's barely an adult. He's like that cute, but bland, red-headed, 16-year old singer on the current American Idol. No life experiences and nothing to share.



(achem) And how old are you? You would be amazed at how much life someone can experience in a short period of time. People who STAR in Broadway productions can't exactly be wet behind the ears. To make it in today's entertainment industry, you have to be part performer, part diplomat. Jai is also a petite GAY man. I can guarantee that boy has had some hard experiences in his life (oh how I long for HRH Tick to back me up on this).
He is not a one-dimensional persona. He always gets to the meat of the problem in a relationship in EVERY SINGLE EPISODE. I have not seen an epi yet where at least one of the guys didn't tear up at the part that Jai coached the SG through. It was the one part of the Taebee trainwreck that worked! He does coach the SG's through music, theatre and literature every time, but Bravo or Scout cut those parts out. They probably consider those parts too cerebral (and they are wrong, granted) for the viewing audience. He does mention in one of his interviews (*sound of shredding from frantic searching*)that I can't find right now, that he makes sure that each SG has a play, movie, book and/or CD within his interests before they leave. That way he has something refined to bring into conversations.
Okay, I have been ranting long enough. I can see where some people would think about Jai the way you do, but if you were a fan, you would know better. It is unfortunate that the editing does not allow for a better view of our boy, Jai. Just don't blame HIM for that.
Wannabe
ps--What do you want to bet Jai gave this SG A Wee [censored] at the Nineteenth Hole by Richard Mackenzie? Great book!
kys_grace
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If Kyan gets anymore sexy, I may have to have a sex change operation so I at least have a chance at him! OMG!!! That soft and sexy voice he uses when he has the guys at a spa is killing me. When he was talking to Mark about taking care of his scalp, I was dying. This man sends me to a whole new level! And the hip tip in the tub is just plain cruel! Damn those bubbles! I still have no idea what he actually is saying, since I start drooling immediately when they show it. The stubble on his face is sexy as all get out and he has such an amazing smile.



*SIGH* Ain't that the truth? And I must say that his pin-striped suit in this episode made him look nothing less than drop-dead gorgeous in this episode.Which is probably why I almost dropped dead when I saw him I have to say,I do like how Ted was wearing his hair in back.But enough about that.Where was I? Oh yes...KYAN. *SIGH* Kyan...why do you torture me?!
Teenie
I didn't think this episode met it's goals at all. OK, so Mark is now an up-scaled jock. The house was a Jock domain; where did you hide the kid? Cindy wasn't delighted...all she saw was the golf clubs in the living room. And romance? where? the pep talk he gave Cindy about "we have to make more time for each other" please. Sorry to say this fellas...you failed! Mark still doesn't have a clue and Cindy did NOT get what she needed...sorry Cindy, our guys let you down BIG.
EstlinClichy
Hey TTB, I live in Amherst, NY, too. As for all the fuss about Jai, it's an illusion that's he's coming up with these aphorisms and sensitive sayings all by himself. He's well-coached and his spiels are well laid-out in advance.
ThomThyme
Mark Fi was cute! I got a kick out of his golf obsession and his golf decorated bathroom. What really made me laugh is when they went furniture shopping he immediatly went for that little golf club table like a little kid going after a favorite toy. The boys picked out perfect clothes for him.

I love when Carson make the remark about 'all this wood is getting me excited' when he seen the golf clubs! LOL!
ThomsTeddyBear
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I didn't think this episode met it's goals at all. OK, so Mark is now an up-scaled jock. The house was a Jock domain; where did you hide the kid? Cindy wasn't delighted...all she saw was the golf clubs in the living room. And romance? where? the pep talk he gave Cindy about "we have to make more time for each other" please. Sorry to say this fellas...you failed! Mark still doesn't have a clue and Cindy did NOT get what she needed...sorry Cindy, our guys let you down BIG.




Our fellas NEVER let ANYONE down! That's like sitting back on your a$$ just because you have a diploma and expecting jobs to jump in your lap. A diploma is a tool to use. The guys give the straight men tools to use and it is up to the straight men to use them correctly.
thoms_pirateboi
I'll visit as often as I can! Thanks for the warm welcome! happy.gif I'm hear as often as I can get, seeing as the boys are so stylish and loveable!
thoms_pirateboi
Husband?? ^^ I'm as single as the next gay boi! No, I'm definately single, and wishing I was with Thom!

Pirates are sexah! I once drew Thom in a pirate outfit... :drool:
thoms_pirateboi
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Thoms_pirateboi, your screen name is awesome!




Thank ya! Pirates are SO in this season! Every straight or gay man should have one!
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