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Since I don't know how to post my own thread I'll ask here, Does anyone know if I can get pictures of that girls hair...The one where jonathan said vidal on his best day wished he could do that.

I'd love to know if it's possible to see pictures of that :X

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i don't know about anyone else but not liking his hair products- like the "dirt" but the shampoo and conditioner is really bad on my hair. dried it out and it felt like straw. jonathan shampoo and conditioner is NO graham webb! his stuff is sitting in the closet.

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Hi all

This is a general post/public service announcement I'd like professional opinions, but, please, no nastiness - I feel bad enough as it is right now.

Also non professional (client) opinions i.e. has anyone else had this happen and/or maybe some 'haircut horror stories'.

Basically, I am here to say: Stylists, what do you think - Clients, have you had this happen (if this is your type of hair) -

Should a hair cutter EVER slide-cut into a type of a wedge cut, someone with FINE and kinky/wavy hair ? Medium to less than medium thickness, very fine texture, kink or wave to it too.

Cos that just happened to me again tonight. I've had this cut from time to time - mostly from a stylist who didn't listen (he later basically admitted that he didn't communicate and didn't argue that he rushed me into the sink). Once started, he always seemed to have a blow-dryer going when I had a question... I could see he wasn't diong what (I thought) we'd discussed.

What I asked for ? A LITTLE BIT of layering, some "pieces" in front, and a strong edge at the very bottom. More was said than this - and also, he'd cut it before and said he remembered me, so I expected the same cut.

I also said, not too much off the bottom. He probably ended up taking six inches off the length. When I would look, he'd seem to be cutting an upper layer ? But then, I'd peek and he'd be cutting it all the way down. (It would look like he was measuring/matching the top ones to the very bottom; then he'd go back real quickly and cut off or slide cut the last bit too).

I think he kinda snuck in what HE thought would look better.

To wrap it up - PLEASE do not, anyone, make the mistake of thinking that women with very fine hair can take lots of layering. It ended up heavily layered. Hardly anything exists in the bottom layer at all - more like a little 'rat tail' !

It sort of looks like a cross between a wedge and some sort of weird shag. Sort of an upside-down triangle on the bottom part of it... The top part is untouched. I had asked for a little layering in front and a flippy bottom edge.

What I got, especially once my natural wave comes back in (I am NOT willing to fry it daily by blow drying it) looks like my ends all BROKE OFF due to some type of over-processing. Actually right now there's no color on my hair. And I've never needed to perm it - natural wave.

He also fried it i.e. put "product" on it then zapped it with a high-setting, very hot blow dryer aimed AT me the entire time. Kept drying & drying it, long after it was "dry already !!". At the length I ended up with it dried in about two minutes I think !! Then, lots of hairspray without asking me first (head flipped upside down & didn't see it).

I know anyone can have a bad day. I told him that I was not angry etc., but told what I didn't like about it. Asked if there's any way to fix it. Was told, come in and let manager fix it. I was stating everything very calmly but clearly was not pleased at all. Also, nothing done to the cut above the chin - and I'd said, "no bob". It looks like a bob with some scraggly scraggly torn up ends pasted on the ends of it.

I know what my hair can & can't do - and I've heard the same protestations before - then I get someone who knows how to cut this type of hair and it does just fine/very well. It's got a lot of bounce & body, but not when cut badly.

He even said "use a flat iron" once I said 'what can I do with it' - after I'd just said, "But I never dry it - I always let it dry naturally - I prefer to work WITH the wave - it's dry naturally" Although, when I went in it was the healthiest feeling I'd seen it in years. Not after that ten minutes of top heat blow drying though, with product in it to boot ! I went home, shampooed/conditioned and it still feels oddly dry.

I know that stylists like to feel like they're the artists but the truth is, WE have to wear the result. If you wouldn't like a stranger to choose your hair style for the next few months, please, dont do it to us either.

I did get a bit worried when he cut me off and rushed me into the bowl (after first telling me soon as I sat down "Your hair is so thin !") (it isn't, HONEST) (& I don't care if someone has see through hair - I don't - or two Homer Simpson style hairs on their head - why SAY that to them...) but I figured, since he said he remembered me and my cut... Who needs micro managing ?

It was very long when I went in - now it's barely past my shoulders, and even that is only that tiny rat tail he left me for a bottom layer. WAY too much layering in there, for fine hair.

Any advice, anyone ?? I did stop in another salon and have a consultation for tomorrow. I am going to proceed cautiously. Since he took off so much length and cut OUT of it, so much too, there's not much left there to work with !! Sigh !!

I told him I know the communication is half up to me. It's why I didn't rant/rave. Still, I feel it was a bad haircut. Already when he combed it through it was tangling and at home, I run my hand through it and some pieces break off. That's what curly, fine hair does if you slide-cut it !!

Thoughts, anyone ?? Please do be civil - I already feel crappy. His blaming it on my hair didn't help any - nor his insulting "so thin" comment when I sat down. (I should've got right back up again). Believe me it's the same hair that's come out looking full and healthy and bouncy. So it does depend upon the cut. Why do a crappy cut though and then blame the client's hair for it ?!

Thanks for "listening"...

PSA: Do not slide-cut fine curly hair... Do not rush your client to the shampoo then say "I can't hear you" once they ask a question... Please, don't give them what YOU think will look good (As "Alicia" stated in the show she does to clients) You do not know them/their tastes/their life/lifestyle. Even if you ask those things - it doesn't mean you can choose a style FOR them... unless they're up for truly anything and say so.

This has been a public service announcement........

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Hi This message is for the amazing Jonathon Antin My girlfriends and I have a bet going about Jonathon We would like to know what birth sign he is and his backround nationality.

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I have wached this show since the first air date and I must say that Jonathan has gotten to be a bigger jerk with each year. Even each episode. I know that the show is about him but his behavor puts a whole new spin on getting the big head. He makes the comment that "this is what I do Dude" "I do hair". And then he precededs to tell everyone how to do thier jobs that they are good at. Once again a whole new meaning to the word big head and so full of yourself.

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First off, let me start by saying, that i think Johnathan is a joke, Some of his stylists are much more talented than he is. He's str8?, give me a break, he's a flaming Queen.

He dropped out of High School, most states won't even give you a liscence unless you have at least a HS Ed.

For me, i have a BA Degree in Business Management.
I have been a liscenced stylist for the past 40 years, i have been a colorist for Redken and a platform artist for several top manufacturers.

I have been an Educational Director for a Cosmetology school and an educator for insalon classes.

I have also owne 3 hair salons.

I would love to check Johnathans works, LOL. I could cut style, color , you name it, better than he ever will.

He is all about Himself, such as the B Micahel show, he didn't care about what B micahel wanted, it was all about what Jonhathan wanted. he's a total ass. i can't see why anyone would ever want to work for this jerk.

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Hey DEWD,
#1)I'm not a hata, I'm a lova (just ask my bangin' husband)
#2)Wow! Wow! Wow! You've really convinced me. The passion behind your message is just so...there, man. The intensity BLOWS me away.
#3)Where do you live? Do you have photos of your bangin' hair? I'd LUV to see the animals too.

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